What's the reason red pillers love to hate on women over 30, Obese women, single religious women, Single moms, and effeminate men?

spikesandpinstripes · 2023-11-11T23:22:23+00:00

The other comments have it largely covered, but I'd add that a lot of red pill men don't have a lot going for them. To borrow from one of their own theories, their "sexual market value" isn't particularly high - that's why they're so sensitive to the concept of "hypergamy"

Now, if you're in the bottom 10% of men in a world where men are inherently superior to women, it's not such a bad thing - you're still above average in terms of the total population. But if you're in the bottom 10% of men, and men and women are equal? Suddenly you're a lot lower on the chain than you thought you were

They need the myths of women aren't funny, women can't drive, women are liars and manipulators, women can't game or program or invent or write or lead, be competent or interesting in any way, because the only social capital they have is the idea that all men are superior to all women

None of these men will have been able to get through life without encountering a girl or a woman who has been better than them at something - be it in their personal lives or a public figure, reality will always find a way to intrude upon comforting fictions

So they fixate on things that they think will reinforce their value comparative to others - "at least I won't be a used up cumdumpster by the time I'm 30"; "at least I'm not a disgusting land whale"; "at least I'm not a degenerate queer"

Self-esteem is hard. The red pill isn't a theory, it's an antidepressant that placebo-effects them into feeling good about themselves for a little while

CommentsEdited · 2023-11-11T22:27:46+00:00

Women over 30 / obese women

They want every single woman obsessed from childhood with making herself maximally attractive, based on their standards, maximally “pure”, based on their standards, and maximally submissive, so their fragile egos don’t get bruised, and so when they demand their domesticated bangmaid of choice does whatever they want sexually, she doesn’t have any basis for comparison that might result in her making him feel like he isn’t god’s gift to thrusting.

To them, the greatest injustice in the world is that it’s easier for women to get laid as the “gatekeepers of sex” (as if women ever wanted this job) and they believe they are entitled to a handicap, like in golf. Because that’s desperately unfair. Any woman who disagrees has been “ruined” by feminism, and is literally attacking and victimizing men.

The “Wall” is about building fear of scarcity, and driving down women’s self esteem, and encouraging them to settle for any man who will deign to have them before their only real purpose besides fucking — babies — is no longer an option.

Effeminate men

Disliking effeminate men isn’t as important to them as disliking happy effeminate men, who are sexually satisfied and attractive to women. Because that undermines their narrative that a domineering, violent man who doesn’t have to bare his feelings to be a good partner is the only kind of man women could ever really want.

Single moms

Like effeminate men: They’re going against the narrative. Especially if they’re happy and choosing this life on purpose. They’ve “robbed” men of their “right” to be in charge of the baby making supply chain.

Single religious women

I’m not actually aware of the red pill objection to single religious women. I would need to hear more about that.

PlantHag · 2023-11-11T22:55:58+00:00

It's pure strategy. The worse women feel about themselves the less they expect from their partners, and the more BS they will tolerate. They want the bar to stay in hell where they think it belongs.

As for the effeminate men, I've seen a lot of RP closet cases so I assume it's a lot of projection.

Midnightchickover · 2023-11-12T00:44:08+00:00

You forgot Black women, trans women, rich women, and sex workers. Like, these are groups these guys don’t or would really have any romantic interest in or be in proximity to. Yet, you would think all of these groups of women (along with the ones OP mentioned) deliberated a coordinated strategy to firebomb a dude’s family and their home, destroyed his entire porn collection and SA him in the process while murdering his entire family. Stealing all of their money and assets.

xvszero · 2023-11-11T22:22:39+00:00

Well, they hate all women but they especially hate women who make them horny but won't fuck them, but they also hate women who don't make them horny at all.

As for effeminate men that probably comes down to their strict adherence to gender roles and the fact that if men can break those roles and be fine then women can too, and they want women stuck in those roles so they can control them.

Also they're usually conservatives so they just hate on anyone different than themselves by default.

TelevisionGloomy5458 · 2023-11-11T22:47:19+00:00

Well incels have nothing more to neg women about other than our age, weight, looks, failed relationships (single motherhood), etc. they are just grasping at straws. Instead of accepting accountability and responsibility for their own lives, it’s easier to blame women. It’s cope

Randommia1916 · 2023-11-12T00:55:37+00:00

Those men are simply jealous that those women with “undesirable traits” still have people that want to have sex with them,be friends with them and actually want to be around them.They feel as if those women should be as lonely as they are bcs they think that no one would want those women but when they look in reality and see it’s not true it’s makes them angry.

JSBelle · 2023-11-11T23:23:00+00:00

when you hate yourself and then you look to the Internet for answers, that’s what you find. That’s why it’s so dangerous.

Stargazer1919 · 2023-11-11T23:26:39+00:00

Lots of good answers already. I'll add that they most likely hate themselves, and saying shit about others makes them feel better. It's sad.

Mrgeorgen7 · 2023-11-12T02:48:31+00:00

These guys hate ALL women, period. They only view women good for sex.

Top_Radio_9436 · 2023-11-12T16:37:34+00:00

Its a sad, pathetic coping mechanism. They see everything in hierarchies because their brains can't comprehend the world any other way; they are often binary thinkers. In order to maintain their self-esteem (which is unsustainable and comparison based) they need reassurance that they aren't at the bottom to feel better about themselves. The patriarchy forms a vital part of their identity.

They need to feel like they are in a special class or else they feel that they have no value and must be at the same level in the hierarchy as these people they hate. They usually aren't skeptical enough to question their schemas or reason their way out of it. The only option they've got is to defend their rank in an obsolete hierarchy, based on obsolete ideas that often don't even make sense in a modern context.

Carloverguy20 · 2023-11-12T00:28:19+00:00

Well most redpillers are misreable human beings, and misreable angry people like to hate on anyone who isn't as miserable as them.

Most of the people in those groups mentioned aren't even thinking of these misreable lowlife redpillers who scorn at anyone who is happy and content with life.

Raging_Dragon_9999 · 2023-11-12T03:32:35+00:00

It's mainly tribal. "See these pathetic X Y or Z?! DON'T BE LIKE THEM! BE BETTER!" etc. There's an obsession with status.

The effeminate men is a specifically a class issue. red pill is rather blue collar IMO.

SweelFor- · 2023-11-12T10:30:24+00:00

Stupidity

thetruthishere_ · 2023-11-12T15:42:12+00:00

To feel better about themselves.

larry_tron · 2023-11-13T10:03:53+00:00

I've noticed 3 traits that are extremely common with people like that:

Immature with fragile egos - They do the childish thing of blaming everyone else but themselves as the reason why they can't get laid or find a relationship. Call out their behaviour and they'll immediately get triggered like a sjw and act tough
They stay inside all day and make no effort whatsoever - They like to talk big about doing stuff but nothing in their life reflects what they say because they think fictional movies and edgy animes are real
Possible extreme closeted homosexuality - Ever notice how those red pillers have unhealthy obsessions with men in an almost homoerotic way? If they really wanted to be in a relationship with women so much, then they wouldn't treat women with such hostility and disrespect

ZenSawaki · 2023-11-12T12:32:05+00:00

Because they are afraid of people whose existence doesn't correlate with their standards. Why else? that's the only reason people hate each other.

sharedordaz · 2023-11-12T06:38:04+00:00

Red pill sees the search of a relationship like a game against women. In Red Pill theory, women attractiveness is found on beauty, so when they reach 30, they start to lose their beauty and "lose power". RP Men reject those kind of women because they think are single because they rejected good men until they were left without options. Similar thing with single moms, they think they "lost the game" because they prefered jerks than guys like them, and thats why they are single moms.

Obese women is more related with the Body Possitive culture (im against this), a lot of women think all of them are "beautiful" doesnt matter if they dont take care of their body, and think they can be rude against other people because of this. Obviouslh not all obese women are like this, but there is a loud minority who is like that and have a lot of protagonism on the internet.

Affeminate men, this is against RP theory since they think male attractivenes is found on being "masculine", so if you are "feminine" you are kind of a loser.

Sugar_Cane_Avenger · 2023-11-14T14:27:41+00:00

Obese women -- the more obese women, the more competition there is for skinny women they are attracted to. The obesity epidemic turned a skinny 3 into a 7 because of the rarity of thinness (according to them). So they have even less of a chance of getting laid. When there were many white women in the 1950s, all marrying around the same age, all thin and average or pretty according to them, they had a chance.

Single moms: both leave more men in the dating market and should be punished for not providing men with a permanent sex source. Red pillers are usually broke and can't afford their own kids, let alone someone else's. But the main reason is that single mothers who are living well debunk the idea that women need men or to be trapped in a marriage. On the contrary, women provide so many benefits that they'll stay in relationships where they hate their wives and girlfriends for benefits they provide. But women won't because modern men provide little value compared to the complaining they do.

Single religious women or conservative women also reject them. If you're a single conservative woman looking for a partner to go to say, church with, why would you want a pretend alpha male earning 50k a year who believes you need to submit because of your religion, but is a former porn addict with E.D. who needs you to split bills 50/50? These guys are struggling to find this one-sided traditionalism no matter where they go. They likely learned women weren't people from porn, but women who add value need you to ALSO bring value, so they want to diminish women's contributions to get Walmart great value discounts. Red pill is often women doing both traditional male and female roles while they themselves get a break for not doing either

Feminine men or beta men? Beta men are successful with women because they are generally romantic, providers, or in equal relationships, etc. So that's just jealousy. When they see a good-looking guy in a 5 bed colonial with a traditional family--that's beta to them. They pretend to be traditional, but they actually resent traditional men for having and finding what they can't and call them betas. It bothers them that these men have nothing to hide and choose not based on virginity and youth as well (so now Prince Harry who can probably cancel their entire future with one phone call is "beta" for marrying a 30 something divorcee). But they themselves are "alpha" sitting in a studio on a mattress. Calling men who are more successful than them in every conceivable way beta is the biggest cope of all their copes

Lumpy-Location4457 · 2023-11-20T16:37:06+00:00

Single mother's rise many redpillers

Title	What's the reason red pillers love to hate on women over 30, Obese women, single religious women, Single moms, and effeminate men?
Author	Truthteller1995
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Date	November 11, 2023 10:17 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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