get this stuff right and it might just work out for you.

Ricardoniel · 2020-12-24T00:50:59+00:00

Please don't get a puppy unless you are willing to care for it until old age

lshawel · 2020-12-24T00:45:54+00:00

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iamthesage · 2020-12-24T01:56:23+00:00

I agree with everything except the puppy.

Don't get a puppy unless you genuinely care for it, and want to look after it. Getting a puppy just to pick up girls is cliche.

Other than that -- solid list.

GuyOnaHorse123 · 2020-12-24T00:51:22+00:00

All solid points. Just one thing. Doing all these things just to pick up women is initially a great way to motivate yourself to become better person but it’s not a good long term solution. Ideally your primary source of motivation to improve yourself should be deeper than women.

TotallyNotKevP · 2020-12-24T02:48:53+00:00

some will be offended but all are true. stop making seduction the priority, get your own damn life together first and THEN chase after girls.

pbgswd · 2020-12-24T02:50:22+00:00

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Sgarden91 · 2020-12-24T07:57:47+00:00

By far and away the hardest one here is getting your own place. Where I am that shit is not easy to come by, and it really isn't anywhere for that matter. Even if you make good money like me, better than the majority of people my age, shit is still super expensive, and most people don't live alone. They either have at least one roommate, or, more often, with the SO they already have. I don't really know how to reconcile this one. But while it might be ideal, it is definitely not a prerequisite to getting a woman. That's just impossible.

Otherwise, this is mostly pretty good advice just for self improvement in general (except for keto and getting a desperation dog), and being better yourself is better for getting women in the end.

However, there is no such thing as "The women will fall in to place". That kind of statement is a plague on subs like this and it's really important for guys to know that this is completely false. I get it, putting yourself in a better position makes your chances better, blah blah, but no amount of this kind of thing is guaranteed in any way to help you out with women any more than if you did none of it. This is just something to be aware of. It's going to be a very disappointing thing for a lot of men who have this kind of thing down and aren't seeing any kind of results.

Hegemon1984 · 2020-12-24T01:58:37+00:00

I believe this could be best described as "normal guy" game

Idontfukncare6969 · 2020-12-24T01:02:55+00:00

Keto?

pbgswd · 2020-12-24T07:30:08+00:00

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Silveraindays · 2020-12-24T05:54:27+00:00

Get a puppy.

Kitty work too, trust me on that!

Don't get one if you won't take care of him tho.

concernedad420 · 2020-12-24T01:52:26+00:00

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Fist0fGuthix · 2020-12-24T02:13:21+00:00

All good points, but only get a dog if you will actually care for it.

TosACoinToYourSwitch · 2020-12-24T19:44:59+00:00

I wanna stress the first two points. While I do succeed with women, my personal life is still somewhat of a mess because I spent too much of my 20s focused away from my own individual personal life.

Do not neglect your own life. It sucks down the road if you do.

fhwieidufbt · 2020-12-24T01:55:53+00:00

Uhh not in my experience. I am 22 in college.

get your work life together. put yourself first.

I have a good internship that will likely lead into a decent job in 6 months.

get your own place. Make your space into one that a woman would be half way comfortable in. No woman wants to fool around in front of a bunch of roommates. But a guy who a girl can have some privacy with is a definite option.

since im in college, I have a roommate, but its a decent apartment and my roommate is my best friend.

get fit. Do it for your own sanity. lift and keto. get some clothes. look like an adult. Dont forget the bar of soap.

Done

get rid of the friends that drag you down in any way. practice making new friends. practice this alot. Keep one door open towards the future as you close the ones behind you.

-all my friends are great people who lift eachother up.

need company and connection? Get a puppy. girls lose their shit over a puppy like nothing else I have ever seen in my life. It will enable you to make connections with people of all walks of life like nothing else

-I will when I get a to a place in life where I can be a responsible dog owner.

See, I mostly check the boxes, still have never had a girl who is interested in me, or been on a date. Ever.

Unless you expect a college student to own a 3 bedroom home.

2020-12-24T01:29:05+00:00

All good points! Thank you for posting. I’m actually doing pretty good on point number 5.

VellaPunk · 2020-12-24T06:48:00+00:00

I know guys who doesn't have any of that, they are average looking, sometimes below average, neither have a stable career nor a good reputation in the neighborhood, and some of them even have criminal records, they treat girls like meat, And still have lots of meat. When i was in school i had this classmate whom if you knew wouldn't consider a good guy, he was a guy who would betray his friends, he would beat you unconscious just for some money, and would drink and abuse you infront of anyone. He had way more Girls then any alphas in my class who were handsome had more money and fame. Girls just fell in love with him, and after sex he would just trash them and leave them crying, one of the girl was my neighbour, i saw her crying like she just lost her mother or something but after all that she was still in love with him kept begging him, and there was this other girl who left her whole family for him. Its just one of the cases i have seen throughout my life, some the guys did SOME REALLY NASTY THINGS I CAN'T DESCRIBE HERE and still had so many girls around them. I don't think that girls even care about what kind of a person someone is if they are fun, Guys believe me it's a pattern i observed. Guys like them are more successful with girls without being successful in life. Even knowing what they actually are Girls are still super crazy about them.

TL:DR - I think girls don't actually care about what kind of a person you are as long as you are FUN.

be anything, kind or rude rich or poor, an asshole, weird, good or bad, evil, a piece of shit, JUST BE FUN.

If you get to know a girl really up-close or personally, you would notice that girls are beings full of spirit, when it comes to relationships they live in a fantasy world you know. That's what they actually want, FUN & CRAZINESS. A person full of spirit.

StGoodspeed · 2020-12-24T08:37:15+00:00

Foster a puppy instead of getting one. You still get all the upside of being able to use the little guy to meet new people / pick up chicks AND you are actually doing something good for society (which most girls also love). Win win win.

And you usually have the option to adopt them fully if things really work out well

saadimran2222 · 2020-12-24T01:50:06+00:00

So basically spend half your life sweating and working hard and a woman enters your life and gets to be the owner of all they hard earned property and if she leaves she gets to take half. Wtf

BringTheFingerBack · 2020-12-24T16:11:04+00:00

Sounds like what every 15 year old thinks is needed for a successful relationship 😂

otherworlds · 2020-12-24T01:50:59+00:00

These things have been my focus this year. Happy with my progress with the exception that I don't really have many friends or a strong social circle. I want this, but at the same time, it requires effort and initiative and I'm perfectly content flying solo the majority of the time.

Beckylovesbutts · 2020-12-24T03:22:29+00:00

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kynelly360 · 2020-12-24T04:06:21+00:00

The Seduction Constitution 🇺🇸

TeddyRey · 2020-12-24T09:36:09+00:00

This is actually practical advice

pbgswd · 2020-12-24T11:45:00+00:00

what if I'm Ugly?

GauloisesBleues · 2020-12-24T12:36:26+00:00

What about if you live with one other person? It seems everything’s in check Except no new friends ;( and I work from home.

fuckmylife1616 · 2020-12-24T18:24:35+00:00

One of the things that I wonder about is getting my own place. I come from a Muslim family and it’s in our culture to take care of our parents and be with them until the last moment, so that means not having to live separately, so we bought a mansion and we kind of just live together ? Nobody interferes in anyone’s business, and on the matter of work, I run my families business, it’s a huge company and sometimes I feel like that doenst count as a real job, maybe I am suppose to work somewhere that isn’t tied to my own family business? These are the two things which confuse me as 22 year old adult, I’m not sure if this is the proper path for me as an adult or I need to change.

haikusbot · 2020-12-24T18:45:22+00:00

Living alone and getting a doggo? I have so many questions

angelonewing · 2020-12-24T19:21:40+00:00

Getting your work life in order before worrying about your dating life is important. Now the rest of your checklist, they aren't bad things to do, but you're better off focusing on those things once you can at least already get girls.

If you can't then that's the more fundamental issue that should be prioritized. Thinking you should get your own place for example before you can date is kind of ridiculous. You're just gonna end up presenting an odd sort of image of an unevenly-developed person because here you are, a guy with his own place, yet your lack of experience in dealing with women that comes from having already been around the block a time or two will show. And like, if you managed to get hired for a respectable position for an adult male, which we already established, then chances are you already dress decently enough.

The only exception maybe is getting rid of friends who drag you down, but that's something you should have done a long time ago lol.

Lastly, it doesn't matter how much women lose their shit over puppies, it just doesn't sit right with me to click with a woman over something like that, though this is definitely more of a personal thing. It doesn't help that I'm more of a cat person. Its not that I'm against the idea of getting a puppy just so you can pick up girls; morally I take no issue with it. Its just not what I want a woman to like me for, even if its just that initial intrigue. Like if she already likes me and is using the dog as an excuse to come and talk to me, no, I don't want that. I would however, be willing to get one to be able to better connect with people in a non-romantic sense.

666jio666 · 2020-12-24T21:12:20+00:00

Just no to your puppy idea, can’t think of a worse way too keep yourself stuck in one location. Can’t travel, can’t live a nightlife, have to give constant attention. Pets are so overrated.

blunt_eastwood · 2020-12-24T21:13:30+00:00

TL;DR: Read Models.

18cmOfGreatness · 2020-12-25T08:30:00+00:00

Something like this is posted here each month and each time it gets upvoted and yet guys still struggle. Unlike what some of you think, not all guys in this community are nerdy incels who live in their parent's basement. Many men who struggle with women have ALL of the things you mentioned and more. Hell, men like Elon Musk and Johnny Depp still suck with women even if they are at the level most of us would never achieve. Being successful in life wouldn't make you fuck. I know more than one guy who get hot women while living with parents, not being good-looking or having a proper job.

In fact, I was like this when I first started to get good with women. As a guy in his early twenties I still lived with my parents, my income wasn't stable, my clothes and style were below average, plust I was underweight. I still fucked and dated some of my first 7-8/10 girls. In fact, a part of my motivation to start improving myself was the fact that I wanted to be as good if not better than the women I slept with even though most of them didn't really care - I did.

So if you think that you struggle with women because you lack any of the things OP said, you are really wrong. You struggle with women because your personality, mentality and world-view are SHIT.

HeavenPiercingMan · 2020-12-26T20:41:16+00:00

I take slight issue at the dog. Don't do it to "have companionship", you'll look down on the pup as some kind of non sentient poor man's replacement.

Get a pet because you love them, it has to come from the heart. They are living beings too.

Title	get this stuff right and it might just work out for you.
Author	pbgswd
Upvotes	849
Comments	198
Date	December 24, 2020 12:04 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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