Often overlooked is that for most of recorded history the vast majority of men did not have the right to vote either

corpo_mazdoor_391072 · 2024-06-13T12:52:20+00:00

Feminazis are such masters of manipulation that they have made an entire generation think that the 50-ish year difference is equivalent to 200 years or something. Thanks for sharing this OP, very insightful

Kitnado · 2024-06-13T12:38:22+00:00

This should be scaled to population, not % of countries. Monaco or Vatican City counts as much as India or China? Can't read this graph like this tbh.

Would be even better if it was sub-divided into geographical segments or simply continents.

Direct-Studio4784 · 2024-06-13T11:28:41+00:00

This is really worth spreading

Current_Finding_4066 · 2024-06-13T12:08:15+00:00

Does not fit into feminist narrative, so the info is suppressed and past lack of women's voting rights blown out of proportion.

deletedFalco · 2024-06-13T13:06:49+00:00

I would like a redo of this graph being more truthful...

Here in Brazil for example you need to be in one of three conditions to be eligible to get your voter id (voting is mandatory after you get your voter id):

more than 16 and less than 18 years old (not mandatory)
18yo or more + is a woman (mandatory)
18yo or more + registration to the military service (mandatory)

There is no "you can vote because you are a man", just "you can vote because you are part of the military".

Yes, every male need to be part of the military but the voting right is because of the armed forces, not because the person is a men.

And I am sure that Brazil is not the only country that does that.

Igualdad23M · 2024-06-13T13:53:30+00:00

Worth to note that in most countries women got the right to vote just a few years later than men, while men still had to do the military service.

Meanwhile we are needing decades of activism to get nothing anyway.

You can tell who has been the important ones and the ones society always looked after just by this fact

hottake_toothache · 2024-06-13T14:43:02+00:00

But from women's point of view, all the men in the past have been privileged (because the only think about the men at the top).

63daddy · 2024-06-13T14:10:40+00:00

I’ve often pointed this out regarding feminist disinformation regarding voting rights in the U.S.

Feminists claim no women could vote prior to 1920 which is an absolute lie, there were women voting in colonial America.

When the U.S. became a country only 6% of the population could vote, some of those voters were women. So while it’s fair to say women’s voting rights progress generally lagged a little behind men’s the overall trend is we went from very few men and women being able to vote to most women and men having the right to vote. The overall change applied to both sexes.

Seeing this graphically brings this point home far better than just the narrative. Great graph.

Another related point posted by someone here several months ago is that much of the resistance to women equally voting came from women, not men. As we saw with the ERA, some were concerned that equal voting rights might mean a loss of female privilege. Despite feminist propaganda to the contrary, women had many privileges even back in the days of suffrage as the following points out. (P466)

https://www.societyforhistoryeducation.org/pdfs/M15_Miller.pdf

https://imgur.com/a/chJsMNw

thatusenameistaken · 2024-06-13T15:28:29+00:00

...and women sacrificed nothing to get universal suffrage, while men fought the bloodiest two wars in history to gain it in that big jump that just go happens to coincide with the post ww1 to post ww2 years.

Not to mention men still don't get it without corresponding responsibilities in 99% of the world, requiring a life debt discharged either direct military service or the possibility of a draft, while women get it completely without obligations in 99% of the world. Just look at the Ukraine to see how "equal" the right to vote is.

kkkan2020 · 2024-06-13T14:47:20+00:00

the rich and upper classes were the ones with the power to drive public policy. the peasants are pretty much frozen out. i don't know why this is typically glossed over. like people do realize that poor people then and poor people today are pretty much the same. you're fodder and you're a mule.

Punder_man · 2024-06-13T21:34:39+00:00

Feminists also like to re-write history to make it seem like voting was an exclusive right to men in power..
But in reality, voting was mainly tied to landownership and while yes.. the majority of landowners in the past were men.. there WERE women landowners who DID have the right to vote...

But they don't like that and so they do their best to bury that inconvenient fact because it ruins their narrative...

TenuousOgre · 2024-06-13T14:59:39+00:00

In most countries women got the vote years to decades after men did but men had to submit to conscription while women got it for free. We really need to be showing the timing and asking if they would rather be under conscription, or have gotten the vote 5-40 years after men given millennia without anyone having the vote.

ArmchairDesease · 2024-06-13T16:03:38+00:00

Playing the devil advocate here:

This is breaking news only for very ignorant people. Of course no one had the right to vote for most history. Modern democracy is a recent invention.

But, feminists claim, even before democracy men held more power than women: they decided how to run the family business, they were the only ones allowed to own property, etc.

This is objectionable too, as it's not so black and white. But it's not only about the right to vote.

Snow_Ghost · 2024-06-13T17:11:52+00:00

What's the little blip right near the front, ~1800?

Vegetable_Ad1732 · 2024-06-13T18:07:15+00:00

I've known about this, but never saw it shown this well. Great source.

AbysmalDescent · 2024-06-14T03:30:26+00:00

These numbers are only valid if you consider the right to vote through mandatory conscription/military service to be "universal right to vote". Many countries didn't get the universal right to vote for men until much later, often after women got the universal right to vote.

CatacombsRave · 2024-06-14T10:37:40+00:00

American men still don’t all have it. In some states, Selective Service registration is a prereq, making it a privilege as opposed to a right.

duhhhh · 2024-06-13T13:20:01+00:00

This lays it out for all the larger countries.

https://wiki4men.com/wiki/Universal_suffrage

Expect dismissal of the facts because "4men" means fake and misogynistic, like men have been for all of history... 🙄

Sea_Treat7982 · 2024-06-13T17:50:57+00:00

This chart is actually bad news for feminists. Now there's equality in the right to vote. They will have to come up with another reason to die their hair green, get bullhorn nose rings, gain 50 pounds, and cause mayhem in order to maintain their victim status.

flapado · 2024-06-13T15:18:08+00:00

To be real most of human history, having a say in the government if you were not important was the norm. This includes voting

Men_And_The_Election · 2024-06-13T15:31:24+00:00

And you can see two abrupt changes after ww1 and 2.

Electricpicanin · 2024-06-13T19:52:16+00:00

you're about to start a pussy riot

omnithrope · 2024-06-13T21:08:36+00:00

I doubt it was because they were men.

drdewm · 2024-06-13T13:45:30+00:00

Oppression appropriation. You should he ashamed. /s

ACLU_EvilPatriarchy · 2024-06-13T16:59:55+00:00

That was the USA until President Andrew Jackson and Universal White Male suffrage..

Was it cynical or heartfelt?

He was low income as a child but parlayed increasing slave labor to build his assets.

Almahue · 2024-06-15T12:12:16+00:00

In most countries men don't have a universal right to vote nowadays.

Voting is a perk gained by conscription, not a right.

PaulStamentsHat · 2024-06-13T22:10:24+00:00

Before universal male suffrage, there were often voting rights for only certain men. Some men were excluded, but 100% of women were.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffrage

Some notable examples: France had universal male suffrage in 1792, and no women’s suffrage until 1944.

Germany gave men the right to vote in 1848, and gave women the right to vote in 1918.

Japan gave male taxpayers the vote in 1889 and women in 1945.

Norway gave male landowners the vote in 1814, women in 1915.

DoctorUnderhill97 · 2024-06-13T11:55:50+00:00

I don't understand. Who is overlooking this? What is the point? Obviously, it was not their male-ness that disqualified them.

AlisonWond3rlnd · 2024-06-14T05:02:30+00:00

Yikes, op

unworthycaecass · 2024-06-13T18:21:19+00:00

This post is reaching hard lololol

Title	Often overlooked is that for most of recorded history the vast majority of men did not have the right to vote either
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Date	June 13, 2024 11:17 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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