Do men these days still only respect bitches?

babazuki · 2024-07-08T10:51:00+00:00

Are you trying to survive or prison or have a healthy relationship?

If you see romantic relationship as this adversarial, why would you even be interested.

"Never let your guard down, don't give him the upper hand. He'll take advantage of you if he sees weakness."

Sounds horrible for everyone involved. Just stay single.

Love-Is-Selfish · 2024-07-08T05:17:03+00:00

Go touch grass please.

tadL · 2024-07-08T06:00:51+00:00

Why do you ask a question that you even answer by yourself? You already came to your conclusion. It might be true for some. It might be not true for some.

For example it's not true for me but as you already have your answer to your own question I do not exist.

The thread is pointless, isn't it?

Cunning_Linguists_ · 2024-07-08T12:13:38+00:00

What is this weird ass post? I don't even think you used madonna-whore correctly. Just seems like a random misandrist rant

noafrochamplusamurai · 2024-07-08T05:19:39+00:00

Sounds like you're speaking for yourself. With a misogynist binary worldview. For the rest of us, we operate with a different, simpler philosophy. We date those that interest us, and those that we are compatible with. That's it, that's the whole formula. We aren't running chaos maths to plot out game theory algorithms to attain procreation and increase our familial genetic seed.

Y'all overthink this shit too much, before you make a post, or ask some excessively niche guestion that applies to only a marginal percentage of the population. Keep this in mind: The average adult is married, and those that are not married yet, will likely be married in future. So no matter where you live on the planet, the average adult in your area is married. Fat,skinny,poor,rich, right wing,fire-breathing leftist, misanthrope, optimist,religious,atheist,beautiful or ugly. Most of the people in those demographics are married. Even Vegans, and flat earthers are mostly all married. So when you post binary positions, the argument is dead on arrival, because the answer is somewhere in the middle.

Wattehfok · 2024-07-08T07:24:55+00:00

Having boundaries and self respect doesn’t make you a bitch dude. It makes you a functional adult.

Ultramega39 · 2024-07-08T15:10:28+00:00

I respect women who are able to recognize the evils of the world but still choose kindness and respect over hate and having a victim complex.

Opie67 · 2024-07-08T20:50:16+00:00

Not at all because most of the time it's just a fake persona. I've had a few instances at work of dealing with "boss babes" who suddenly acted and spoke more girly/flirty with me when they realized their fake bossy attitude didn't have any effect. Most women will act more feminine around a man when she feels safe and comfortable to do so

obviousredflag · 2024-07-08T12:55:32+00:00

VERY very few men have a madonna whore complex. This is not a common thing among men.

just_a_place · 2024-07-08T05:50:26+00:00

Hold up! When were bitches ever respected? 🤨

We call them type of women "bitches" for a reason!

"Men have a madonna whore complex about women"

That is just bullshit feminist gobbledygook. Women still can't fucking admit that despite us spelling it out for them - how our brains work - they still don't understand jack shit about us.

For example: The depth and breath of our emotional range, such as, how we can feel so attracted to a cute girl yet do not want to be friends with her. Or the one that truly perplexes women: How we can simultaneously wish to have sex with a woman that we utterly hate. All of this and the more nuanced range of our emotional landscape is completely unknowable to women, despite their stupid boasting about being the more "empathic gender."

The way women try to make sense of men's emotions is always so cringy and utterly off the mark. They invent all these stupid ass psychobable bullshit phrases and theories that somehow makes sense only in their own heads.

"If a woman sticks up for herself and knows the tricks a man might have up his sleeve, if she is loud when she sees fit and cuts men off easily, men will see her as a bitch."

Um, no.

We see her as another man. We see her as competition, a rival, possibly as the enemy, depending on the circumstances of her bitchiness. We certainly have no fucking respect for her, do not mistake a man's silence for respect - instead of him biding his time to strike.

What is womanhood supposed to look like? Shit! That's for women to figure out, and for men to be attracted to, when we see it.

It can either be cute, or hot, or both.

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Inomaker · 2024-07-08T09:52:44+00:00

No. I respect my wife and my friends. I would not describe them as bitches.

Tokimonatakanimekat · 2024-07-08T10:26:56+00:00

I only respect 6'5"+ gym girls with 6-pack

Barely-moral · 2024-07-08T16:28:29+00:00

Why is being respected important or valuable in a relationship anyways?

If anything pets get better treatment than humans.

Gold_Supermarket1956 · 2024-07-08T16:28:51+00:00

No most men do not respect women who are bitches or have a boss bitch mentality... the only thing those women are good for is disposable fun.

kvakerok_v2 · 2024-07-08T05:53:56+00:00

You open with this alternatively intelligent take:

Men have a madonna whore complex about women

And expect a serious conversation? Well, let's address your mental health issues you've posted as claims here.

I'm over 6 feet tall, buff man. 99% of women to me are akin to small cute puppies. With various degrees of yappiness. I respect my intelligent female colleagues. I respect my fellow persevering female gym rats.

A randomly picked woman doesn't deserve any more respect than a randomly picked man.

If the wife is viewed as some kind of cute pet, then respecting her is just an extension of respecting her husband. It's giving property vibes.

You're describing trophy wives though, and if you look at their marriage contacts, they're quite similar to indentured sexual servitude with payout, so you're not that far off.

if she is loud when she sees fit and cuts men off easily, men will see her as a bitch. Men love bitches because they can Respect them

Men don't love bitches, men get along with bitches because bitches are masculine, they both speak the same language.

This madonna whore complex thing makes the title of wife seem very undesirable.

You have stage 4 terminal brain feminism.

Are men growing out of this or are they just marrying bitches?

I don't know who told you this lie, but they're a very very bad person. Literally nobody is marrying bitches, men sure are fucking them though, but that's about it.

Because the whipped look isn't giving masculine but the cute wife isn't looking protected either if she is not truly respected and loved as her Own person.

None of you are the cute wife though. Most of you are bitches that bought into the above bullshit and expect the princess treatment, while reserving the right to flip the bitch switch at any moment "to stand up for yourself". Y'all get angry and pissed when the men you think you deserve ditch you the second you start fucking with that switch. No, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

Brilliant_Island8498 · 2024-07-08T06:05:48+00:00

I don’t respect whores for many reasons. Here’s why

Majority of them are bad people
You don’t know what they did in the past, could’ve been something messed up like finding out your gf was a teacher who smashed a child
they don’t think long term, the internet is forever. I don’t want my son being bullied
they give it up to men who are shit people, they are the reason that men think women like assholes
they make women look horrible
they are very manipulative and gaslight a lot, which makes them cheat
they don’t really love the man their with, and they are good at faking it at times
they are just generally untrustworthy people

This is some of my reasons I don’t respect whores. They can get human decency but not a relationship

LaloTwinsDa2nd · 2024-07-08T07:21:09+00:00

I don’t measure women via respect at all

You gotta do 2 things to earn my respect

Be physically strong enough that I assume you could physically protect yourself from most people

Have a strong vision of what you want and be visibly working towards it or have achieved it.

Women can only do no 2.

sprckets21 · 2024-07-08T05:03:52+00:00

Prob some men. Ultimately you want to be with someone that you mutually want to be around, and you find her attractive.

MyNinjaYouWhat · 2024-07-08T05:22:56+00:00

Who told you we respect bitches? One of the biggest misconceptions women have about men. We’re not afraid of them, we don’t respect them, we despise of them.

“Ewwwww, gross” is our only reaction to the so-called “boss bitches”. There is nothing LESS attractive to a man. We feel about them like you feel about a dirty drunk homeless man smelling of piss, not the way you feel about some corporation’s CEO or a king.

We actually respect the “wife material” woman exactly for being that. Soft, tender, caring, loving, feminine, elegant, cute. Those are signs of a high quality woman, and we respect high quality above anything else. We also respect the people of all genders with whom we treat each other as equals, who have efficiency and reliability to them. We respect the ones on whom we can count to deliver their part of a deal. Whose actions match their words and who never changes their mind after the agreement has been reached. We respect the ones who lead by example. The managers who actually get their own hands dirty. We absolutely DO NOT respect bitchiness and bitchy people. We have ZERO respect for someone who cuts people off. Not even zero, actually minus infinity, that earns an instant 100% disrespect from us. We respect leaders, we don’t respect bosses, try to understand the difference if you care about ever getting respected.

One thing that you probably missed out on, for us men respect is a mutual thing. We never respect someone who doesn’t respect us. At least the strong ones don’t.

Of course there are exceptions to all this, but the exceptions are the guys you would not like — the total pathetic spineless losers who have no personality of their own and are just looking for a dominatrix to submit too and kiss her feet, and get off of being abused and bossed around. Or maybe that’s your thing and exactly what you’re looking for. Then by all means, be as bitchy as it gets, they will adore it.

AreOut · 2024-07-08T04:52:12+00:00

"What is manhood supposed to look like with this dynamic at play even?"

guys looking for masculine women certainly don't represent manhood

thedarkracer · 2024-07-08T05:05:27+00:00

Men take whatever they can get. There isn't always much of a choice. Even in older eras, having multiple wives or female partners was common but not the reverse. And I am not talking about the harems or concubines. Some women are ok with sharing one guy but guys are not ok with the reverse which is why they take any abuse metted out to them to keep the woman close to them.

And Madonna whore complex is something else actually, something like black and white (either saints or whores). Your post says something like "women are wonderful" thing. The latter does exist for most men which I can agree on. In fact almost everyone looks the world as black and white as it is much easier to understand.

Incarnate24 · 2024-07-08T05:33:21+00:00

Tbh I would love a cis puppygirl wife idk what to tell you

berichorbeburied · 2024-07-08T08:42:06+00:00

I don’t understand your post?

“Marriage only works when a man likes you more”

That quote seems to discount your whole post.

As the implication would be it wouldn’t matter what you do or what personality traits you present. Because as long as a man doesn’t want you or doesn’t want you more than you want him then it will never work.

And if your premise/axiom is based on a man wanting/liking you a lot or wanting/liking you more than you do him then it would be prudent to do what they want. If that’s what you believe is the main reason that marriages are successful or by small extension relationships.

If you don’t believe this.

I guess your paradigms then consist of a man getting his way in the situation (pets) or a woman getting her way in the situation (bitch).

It’s ironic really. But I digress.

I just don’t really understand the point of this post.

Like what do you want?

Tbh I don’t know any man that wants to get married.

So my assumptions are that it’s something that women force or influence men to do to get sexual access or family access.

Or it’s something that only older men or men who are about to die want to do.

It’s always women talking about marriage in my experience.

Never ever hear about a man wanting marriage one day.

So these posts are always interesting.

It’s always a woman talking about marriage.

Or a man that’s already married.

Unable_Evidence_4028 · 2024-07-08T05:07:52+00:00

You are overcomplicating things.

Men just want sex and they do things to get it (It includes tolerating bitches).

There are no "respected" ugly bitches and somehow bitches who dont sexualize arent "respected"

... is that really respect or just sexual desperation? Most men are more pathetic than you think.

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