Men are forced to become meat shields and dying in Ukraine, dating scene for women most affected

WanabeInflatable · 2024-08-04T16:19:18+00:00

Even the part that is visible before paywalled text is utterly horrible

StarZax · 2024-08-04T16:44:22+00:00

Ms. Aktysenko said about one in five men she encountered on Tinder were soldiers, but she has not chatted with any of them. “They’re brave, they’re heroes,” she said. “But given the situation, starting a relationship feels too risky.”

You know what's more risky than starting a relationship with a soldier ?

slityourthroatnow · 2024-08-04T16:56:43+00:00

This is disgusting.

Men are fucking dying.

Current_Finding_4066 · 2024-08-04T16:47:06+00:00

Poor poor women cannot get laid because men are dying on the front

drmode2000 · 2024-08-04T16:30:13+00:00

This article is horrible, and the women need to be drafted.

bright_yellow_vest · 2024-08-04T17:13:53+00:00

Women have always been the primary victims of war. They lose their husbands, fathers, sugar daddies, random men to buy them drinks.

gatorsya · 2024-08-04T16:57:30+00:00

Ukrainian women from the article: Men are heroes, men are brave, they look depressed, too risky, I don't want them.

Fearless-File-3625 · 2024-08-04T17:36:23+00:00

Hundreds of men were killed and thousands imprisoned in "women" protests in Iran and thousands of men participated in Sarah Everard protests in UK.

I have yet to see a single woman, out of 4 billion, talk about gendered aspect of war slavery in Ukraine or Russia. It's crazy how not a single, out of 4 billion +, of so called "empathetic" humans have to anything to say about the biggest inequality in modern times.

There are literally thousands of examples of men standing up for women's rights throughout history right from early feminist movement (Seneca falls convention) to modern day Iran, but you never see women standing up for men's rights.

Only time you see women protest for something related to men's rights is when something done to blatant exploitation of men, like when thousands of women in Switzerland protested against equal retirement ages but not a single one of those will say anything about male only compulsory military service in Switzerland.

FourEaredFox · 2024-08-04T17:57:45+00:00

The biggest horror here is that this article was written by a man...

griii2 · 2024-08-04T20:03:59+00:00

For women, the problem is particularly acute. Tens of thousands of men have died.

They did not "die", they were killed, you fucking morons!

Snoo82945 · 2024-08-04T17:46:11+00:00

And of course she rejected a guy because of his disability, but it's the character that matters.

mrkanu · 2024-08-04T18:48:15+00:00

An utterly insensitive article completely ignorant of the horrors of war and the hardships faced by the main group of people affected, that is men.

godofwar108 · 2024-08-04T16:35:42+00:00

So vile

tonguesmiley · 2024-08-04T18:57:08+00:00

"Why do our men have to suffer so much when women can just go abroad and have a martini in Milan?” she asked."

HandsomeJack44 · 2024-08-04T17:43:40+00:00

No they're not, because they're all over tinder in my country on the other side of the goddamn planet

Juan20455 · 2024-08-04T21:02:03+00:00

“Why do our men have to suffer so much when women can just go abroad and have a martini in Milan?” -enough said

ComprehensiveHour160 · 2024-08-04T17:14:57+00:00

For women, the problem is particularly acute.

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Tens of thousands of men have died. Many more are on the front lines, some have fled the country and others are reluctant to leave their homes, fearful of being stopped in the street by draft officers. In cities like Kyiv, the capital, the presence of men has noticeably dwindled. In some villages, conscription has hollowed out the male population.

🤦

This is especially disgusting :

The war has also heightened ideological divides, crushing potential relationships that may have blossomed before the conflict. Some women now refuse to date draft dodgers, saying that they are unpatriotic.

The white feather movement all over again. If this is how the majority of these women view men then Ukrainian society is truly doomed, and it's probably a good thing. A society that views its men like that deserves to become extinct.

smutskatt · 2024-08-04T19:51:54+00:00

Just when you thought narcissism had limits

WeEatBabies · 2024-08-04T22:00:44+00:00

Easily solved, draft feminists, send them to the frontlines, conquer Crimea!

Extreme_Spread9636 · 2024-08-04T23:54:06+00:00

To be fair, this is not just an Ukrainian women thing, but an overall women´s issue. If war happened in our countries, these women would be doing the exact same thing. It really makes me question whether it makes sense to give women rights at this point.

TheRomanticKashaf · 2024-08-04T22:29:04+00:00

The authors of this article and the women mentioned in it are both disgusting. Men there are dead, and are still dying, yet most of these women have the audacity to make it about themselves by complaining about having problems with dating, and by shunning men for being mutilated in the war, or for dodging draft, due to thinking of them as "unpatriotic."

GltyUntlPrvnInncnt · 2024-08-04T18:15:56+00:00

Gynocentrism and male disposability

TheWinterNights · 2024-08-04T16:52:44+00:00

Got a feeling like I know how the comments may go.

But I wish people would take note instead.

You can judge them all you want. You can get upset all you want. All that stuff.

But that right there is reality - that is how it is going to be if you go to war. Not like in the movies or books or games.

And here is one more. They will travel and find men in other countries if their own do not come back, do not come back fast enough, or do not come back - and I am sorry to say this straight out - not visually appealing enough.

They will also have no problem getting with the men of the other side if they win.

This has not changed through history.

Isn't even meant as an anti-women comment. Please do not read it like that.

But men should know what they are getting into and not live a lie - because if you do, and you do keep alive, you will be forced to wake up to some brutal doses of reality eventually.

Yitastics · 2024-08-04T20:34:26+00:00

So men are dying coz of war but they thought including "dating scène for women most affected" is a good headline?

What do you rather have, a worse dating scène coz your matches literally die or dying in war?

KangarooCrapper · 2024-08-04T23:34:42+00:00

Imagine the mental load these women have to carry / s

disayle32 · 2024-08-04T18:37:06+00:00

Disgusting. Never have any kind of relationship with a Ukrainian woman who fled during the war. They've shown through their own actions that they can't be trusted to be there for you when times get tough. And any country that treats its men the way that Ukraine has treated them doesn't deserve a single one of those men fighting and dying for it.

SomeoneRandom007 · 2024-08-04T17:25:30+00:00

Poor women. Such unimaginable suffering! /s

corporate_robot_dude · 2024-08-05T14:48:26+00:00

Here in Canada I've encountered several very attractive Ukrainian women at high net worth business type events blatantly looking for a boyfriend/husband. They are very strategic and intelligent when it comes to scoping out guys. When asked about home (and the war), they kind of just brush it off as something that was in the past as they are now in a new country looking to make a new life.

As a man, anytime your government sells you on the idea that you are fighting for your people, your country, and your home...just remember this is how you'll be treated.

UniversityEastern542 · 2024-08-05T10:10:04+00:00

On the dating app Bumble, Ms. Bairachna liked the looks of a hipster. But when she scrolled through his photographs, she noticed his amputated leg.

“I looked at his profile for 15 minutes and felt so sorry for him,” Ms. Bairachna, 35, a marketing director for a clothing brand in Kyiv, said in an interview. She wondered if she could handle a relationship with a maimed war veteran. Then she swiped left, removing him from potential matches. “I feel I’m not ready for that.”

Imagine how fucking shallow one needs to be to reject someone for being an amputee.

aerial_coitus · 2024-08-05T00:47:41+00:00

Unbelievable.

dankmemezrus · 2024-08-04T18:19:16+00:00

This is a joke right? Please be a joke

whatafoolishsquid · 2024-08-05T06:33:14+00:00

The NYT also said Venezuela's economic collapse was the result of capitalism, so...

Sad-Persimmon-5484 · 2024-08-04T20:41:39+00:00

Why don't we ever talk about the russian men?

Ok-Application8550 · 2024-08-05T06:04:51+00:00

Talk about being tone deaf....

On_the_Cliff · 2024-08-05T14:34:46+00:00

Ms. Bairachna, who often travels outside Ukraine, said she had been struck by the dual reality. “Why do our men have to suffer so much when women can just go abroad and have a martini in Milan?” she asked.

Because... The PatriarchyTM always oppresses women and favors men? Isn't that the only acceptable answer?

istira_balegina · 2024-08-05T08:35:48+00:00

Unbelievable.

fuckthemoddsofreddit · 2024-08-05T15:02:21+00:00

Insane. Anything to be the victims

PanpsychismIsTrue · 2024-08-05T17:30:32+00:00

Just the most tasteless, crass, empathy-deficient bile from a supposed newspaper of record. Dire.

weatherinfo · 2024-08-05T19:51:35+00:00

BREAKING: Hundreds of thousands of men dead, women most affected

Sea_Treat7982 · 2024-08-04T19:26:07+00:00

And the Brandon administration along with complicit Republican lawmakers are funding this misery. Aren't they supposed to be the champion of women's causes?

conradfart · 2024-08-05T06:41:09+00:00

"Not ready to consider dating an injured veteran. Draft dodgers are cowards. Dating a soldier on active duty would be too dangerous.

Where are all the good men?"

At the front preventing an oversupply of Russian cock in Kyiv, last anyone checked luv.

Qantourisc · 2024-08-05T14:30:01+00:00

This is just utterly respect-less and distasteful my god.

I'd be ashamed to publish this.

Illustrious_Bus9486 · 2024-08-06T00:23:27+00:00

Another article about how women suffer more from war than men.

TaskComfortable6953 · 2024-08-10T01:31:51+00:00

We gotta stop giving NYT clicks. They don’t deserve this attention that helps their bottom line because they spread so much misandry.

M56012C · 2024-08-04T23:52:38+00:00

Forced by Russians who want them all dead. Small ommission there.

Title	Men are forced to become meat shields and dying in Ukraine, dating scene for women most affected
Author	DawnBreak777
Upvotes	988
Comments	149
Date	August 4, 2024 4:17 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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