Q4RP: Don't you think that teaching men that women love to get groped by hot men is dangerous?

Ritzen · 2017-11-10T13:07:25+00:00

No because TRP doesn't teach you to go up to random women and grope them, it teaches you how to read women and interact/react accordingly.

Taipanshimshon · 2017-11-10T14:57:20+00:00

you keep building these strawmen. and keep burning them down. Good job man

NalkaNalka · 2017-11-10T13:54:14+00:00

"dangerous"

Gotta love the hand wringing moral panic.

So if one sperg idiot in a thousand totally misunderstands TRP and gropes a random women. So what? He gets slapped, cussed out or kicked out of the bar and learns that you don't do that shit. She gets a nice story to tell her friends.

The end.

slothsenpai · 2017-11-10T15:29:41+00:00

Consent is a slippery slope where it's not always an overt "yes/no". It's just simply saying that if you're attractive enough, she may open her body-language a bit towards you and it's up to you to then try and read between the lines. Even when PUA teaches the concept of kino, they don't tell you to go in hard but just start off with light touches on the arm and then slowly work your way from their to gauge their reaction.

washington_breadstix · 2017-11-10T13:17:02+00:00

No one, regardless of pill, is dumb enough to actually advocate just walking up to random women and groping/raping them.

The point is that if you're a higher-SMV male, you can probably escalate faster than low-SMV males. Women will be receptive to you breaking the kino barrier very early on if you're SMV is perceived as high. But even then, you have to do it strategically and in a way that's socially acceptable.

says_harsh_things · 2017-11-10T16:03:41+00:00

TRP does say that women like it, but they do not make the leap to say 'she will like it from you'.

I've never seen the default position to be that you can automatically do these things. You have to interpret IOIs properly before you can be sure she sees you in that way.

Nothing in TRP indicates otherwise.

[deleted] · 2017-11-10T19:58:46+00:00

No, TRP isn't dangerous. That does make us sound pretty cool, though. Thanks.

MrTrizzles · 2017-11-10T20:29:23+00:00

TRP attempts to produce men who will get groped by hot women.

Entropy-7 · 2017-11-11T03:02:11+00:00

It's not dangerous as long as long as it is taught along side the concept of self-awareness of one's place in the SMP. TRP is about raising your SMV and that is a good thing. But you have to be aware of where you stand and not over-reach.

There is also the art of flirting by which mastery can allow you to do almost anything.

[deleted] · 2017-11-10T15:30:49+00:00

I'm not even going to ask you if you think that this could be harmful to women (because I know I would only get "but they do enjoy it" answers or other attempts at hamstering it away), but rather if you think that it could be harmful for TRPers that think that they are alpha enough to do it now and that try to be even more alpha by just groping random women. According to TRP women want it to happen so why shouldn't he follow TRP truths? Since he started lifting he's not unattractive anymore therefore she won't even think that it's sexual assault unless he loses frame or doesn't manage to handle her shit tests, but he mastered his shit eating grin so there's nothing he got to fear.

It's dangerous to speak of the reality that some women do enjoy being groped by strangers without their consent?

TRP merely attempts to explain why that my be the case. But it's an explanation for something that already happens. The root of the problem is still on women

L0git3x · 2017-11-10T18:01:07+00:00

It does not teach you that women "love to get groped by hot men"

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Dmva100 · 2017-11-10T15:29:20+00:00

Not at all.

Remember that phrase all men are pigs? Well yeah some guys are pigs, so all men must be!

So now apply the same feminist egalitarian equalism bullshit to this statement:

Not all women want sex with you.

Some do though, so now ALL women should want sex with you and be receptive to all your advances.

But of course that's not PC. Do what you want and everyone else can STFU.

anon1moos · 2017-11-10T19:19:44+00:00

If you're going to say that TRP supports randomly groping strangers, I'm going to need to see a citation.

[deleted] · 2017-11-10T21:41:10+00:00

Do you think the men on TRP care about the other men on TRP?

I swear these things should make sense to you by now

I know you think that they must care, why else would the sub exist? But its more a combo of spite towards women and the world + convo that may teach you something you didnt already know + echo chamber

oneprettycoolcat · 2017-11-11T01:44:51+00:00

Well, I think it's important to add the caveat that it is almost certain you are and never will be hot enough to get away with it. But, it is important to know that women are shallow animals and don't actually mean what they say, and that last bit is the really valuable part. Never bother listening to what women say.

newName543456 · 2017-11-13T09:37:30+00:00

if you think that it could be harmful for TRPers that think that they are alpha enough to do it now and that try to be even more alpha by just groping random women. According to TRP women want it to happen so why shouldn't he follow TRP truths?

Only if they are attractive. So if you aren't, you shouldn't grope any woman who thinks so.

Since he started lifting he's not unattractive anymore therefore she won't even think that it's sexual assault unless he loses frame or doesn't manage to handle her shit tests, but he mastered his shit eating grin so there's nothing he got to fear.

If he ends up sexually assaulting a woman, it's his fault for not reading cues properly. And that retroactively proves he wasn't as attractive as he thought.

In short: do you think that reading TRP can be harmful for men?

Do you think that driving cars can be harmful to people?

Someone can drive too fast/recklessly, then die in a crash...

0kool74 · 2017-11-17T20:22:42+00:00

"In short: do you think that reading TRP can be harmful for men?"

What is harmful to men in giving them the tools necessary to be successful with the opposite sex? We're not intuitive beings like women are. We don't just wake up at the age of day 1 and instantly know "this" is how you have to be for women to be attracted to you.

Having said that, anyone in the community espousing the lines "it's only rape if you are ugly" or "women want to get raped by alpha men" is absolutely retarded!!!

UncolouredInFlow · 2018-03-15T00:37:12+00:00

yes, its absolutly not ok to grope anyone without consent. hot or not.

tempuserthrowaway5 · 2017-11-10T13:33:23+00:00

Just because a psycho is nice looking doesn't mean he's a pleasant guy to be around. Ted Bundy was a nice looking man, Charles Manson wasn't a bad looking guy either but they are Ted Bundy and Charles Manson.

Nobody wants to be around that.

gELSK · 2017-11-10T16:07:05+00:00

Is that dangerous advice? Absolutely.

But what blew my mind contrary to blue pill advice is some women liked to be groped by some men some of the time. In fact this still astounds me.

Perfectly explains why my tentativeness was so abhorred.

PBRScagsquad · 2017-11-10T16:11:26+00:00

No RP does not preach groping random women, you're supposed to do it in an appropriate context ie when you're flirting with someone. Also generally attractive men will get far more leeway, this is an observable phenomenon that most of the men on here will likely agree with regardless of flair. That is the point TRP is making, not it's only rape if he's ugly. That's what the incels claim, stop conflating the two.

TheGreasyPole · 2017-11-10T16:37:25+00:00

Don’t you think that BP teaching women that rape is about power (and not sex) is dangerous ?

Title	Q4RP: Don't you think that teaching men that women love to get groped by hot men is dangerous?
Author	BiggerDthanYou
Upvotes	16
Comments	144
Date	November 10, 2017 1:03 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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