Woman creates a fuck list of Duke University athletes as a"thesis." Hell breaks loose.

SlippyToadsWildRide · 2014-12-29T18:28:31+00:00

Tucker Max actually did a really good writeup / analysis about this: http://tuckermax.me/karens-owens-and-the-duke-fuck-list/

Excerpt:

Karen Owens is not an empowered woman: As a reaction to the negative commentary, there was a wave of people defending her, mainly by calling her “empowered.”

The first time I read this I laughed out loud. Surely only a dumb sorority girl looking for justification for all the dicks she sucked last weekend would think that. Then I saw it over and over again...and realized people were serious. I’m all for hooking up and having fun, but do people really think a drunk slut throwing herself at athletes is empowering? No fucking chance.

I will explain to you what is really going in the simplest terms possible:

To most of the guys on her list, Karen Owens was nothing more than life support for a vagina. Which is fine…except she doesn’t understand that at all, and that is the opposite of empowering.

You can easily find a picture of Karen online, and if you do, you’ll see what I'm talking about. She’s a cute girl, but not smoking hot, the type that you’ll fuck if it’s available and easy, but won't really put work into. And that is exactly what she did: Make herself easy and accessible to the guys on her list. I mean, look at how she describes meeting one:

“After many long looks exchanged between us on the path to and from Wilson Gymnasium, he finally approached at Shooters II and asked for a dance before suggesting that we exit the premises.”

From there she went home and fucked him. Hardly even had a conversation. That’s empowering? No, that's easy.

I know too well the reality of the situation, because I’ve been the guy the guy that the Karen Owen type goes after many times. For a high status guy who gets lots of girls--e.g. an athlete at Duke--Karen Owen is nothing more than a piece of easy ass. Why? Because that's the way she acts. She tried to make it sound like she was using these guys for her experiment, but that was only the explanation she tacked onto her actions afterwards. That's not what was happening in the moment; no, at the time, it was the guys who were using her. Except she doesn't understand that at all. The best evidence of that is her words:

“On the way out, we walked past Joe Tkac (lacrosse), who took one look at me, said ‘Oh heyyy, Karen…what are you up to tonight?’ and died laughing.”

They are laughing AT HER, because they all know something that see doesn't: They see her as nothing more than a cum-dumpster. Pour beer down her throat for two hours, her legs open, shoot your load, and move on.

If you still don't get it, and still think her actions were empowering, explain this paragraph:

“He was the first guy I have hooked up with that kept an intense level of eye contact throughout the hookup, which honestly brought the entire experience to a level of hotness that I had never before experienced.”

That's describing the guy she gave the highest score too. Go look at the actual scores: The only two guys she gave a 12/10 to are the two that treated her the least like a whore. Pretty much all the rest used her like a dishrag and tossed her out, and she subconsciously graded them lower because of it. The guy she graded the lowest is that one who didn't kiss her, fucked her quickly and then left the bedroom, treating her like a prostitute.

What do you think that means when the lowest score goes to the guy who treats her like a hooker, and the highest goes to the one who treats her like a human? It means she wants affection and connection from her sex, except she doesn't even realize it. The guys aren't playing that game; they just want to fuck a bunch of girls. She thinks she’s a participant in this game, but she’s not--she's the one getting exploited, but she doesn’t understand her own emotions enough to see it and change her behavior. That's the opposite of being empowered.

Here’s the deal: A woman can be sexually active and explore lots of men, and can do it in an empowering way--but the key to that is SELF-AWARENESS. Karen has none of that. She gave her vagina away like a free refill at McDonald’s to any guy who even held her glance, but then tried to only evaluate the actions of the guys who fucked her, without even giving a mention to her own behavior or emotions. That’s not empowering. That is being blind to the nature of your own life, which is just sad. Calling her empowered is an embarrassing disservice to women who really are empowered.

RPthrowaway123 · 2014-12-29T20:35:29+00:00

Let's face it...if a guy did a write up of all the girls he fucked like this, it'd be a huge lawsuit

Roneldo · 2014-12-29T18:09:44+00:00

Seems like Duke has a lot of sex-related controversies (Belle knox, Duke larcosse fake rape charges)

mapadmavatidevi · 2014-12-29T21:08:23+00:00

Just to be clear this was not an academic thesis. She creates the PowerPoint for her friends and it got leaked.

Source: I know her

2014-12-30T00:57:59+00:00

Jesus Christ if a guy made a list of girls, he would be arrested for conspiring to break the law or something and pretty sure feminists would ruin his life.

GhostOfAladdin · 2014-12-29T22:51:21+00:00

Poor girl. Athletes she barely knew masturbated in her.

This isnt going to end well.

LGBTQMIAPDLOLPLPLTH · 2014-12-29T18:11:45+00:00

First off, this is news from 2010.

http://archive.longislandpress.com/2010/10/07/karen-owen-list-karen-owen-thesis-duke-athlete-sex-list-goes-viral/

Secondly, Deadspin is part of Gawker, you should not link to them directly.

To me, the most interesting story is the one hookup where she was sober for it. Really shows how perverted the entire hookup culture is, that it's only able to be enabled when people are generally in a fucked-up mental state e.g. drugs, alcohol, etc. Almost as if (most? some?) people aren't designed (adapted? evolved?) for rampant promiscuity.

The feminist angle is almost matched by that interesting psychological note.

Tarnsman4Life · 2014-12-30T00:12:59+00:00

Thesis: Athletes will smash a 7 all day long for fun Seriously; so her count is stated at 13 which means it is at least double that. Given the fact she is an attention seeking whore; enough so to write a thesis about fucking men, the count is probably already over 100.

foldpak111 · 2014-12-29T20:15:13+00:00

I would be absolutely livid if a girl did this to me. Not due to insecurity, but you don't post something sexual about me on the internet and call me a subject. Reverse the genders and the guy would be assassinated. If you're going to be a whore at least be a good whore.

ArbitraryFool · 2014-12-30T02:01:23+00:00

Girls just don't get it, you cannot use a man for sex because the man will always want it more and will consider them to be inferior for giving it up so easy.

MajorMid · 2014-12-30T03:55:18+00:00

Talk about 80/20 rule in effect. This chick is a 5/10 6/10 at absolute fucking best and she's banging any high valued D1 athlete she wants.

chillmonkey88 · 2014-12-30T02:39:36+00:00

Anyone else notice how that rating on sex correlates with each guy in order get lower and less enjoyable to her...

Sounds a lot like how after women get the WILD OUT OF THEIR SYSTEMS in their younger years and then SETTLE DOWN with a guy how they seem to be over having fun sex and just describe how crazy and wild they were to their new beta bux hubby.

sir_wankalot_here · 2014-12-29T18:55:00+00:00

I refuse to believe there is a department of late night entertainment for a degree in tempestuous frolicking (DTF)

wazzapmang · 2014-12-30T00:46:34+00:00

what a fuckin weirdo. she must have some deep issues.

R4F1 · 2014-12-30T12:04:44+00:00

This is probably the most incredible example of hamstering humanly possible. Hamster Level Over 9000.

She goes around railing studs all over campus like the slut she is, but in her mind she's convinced herself "oh yeah, itz fer science!!". She really thinks she's a field researcher gathering information and doing tests?! How she has fooled herself. Just WOW.

Ududude · 2014-12-29T19:12:44+00:00

I...

Am I the only one who wouldn't have sex with her? I'm being completely honest. She looks somewhat unattractive and I'm surprised so many people banged her. I got in a situation before where I tried fucking someone who I didn't find attractive just to raise my count and I could barely get it up.

Areimanes · 2014-12-29T19:39:48+00:00

This is very old news.

Average girl at best - apparently with a good rack - sucks a lot of athlete dick at Duke. Her parents and future husband (who would want to marry someone like that?) must be proud.

In other news, water is wet.

That being said, I can only imagine the amount of pussy the Duke athletes must've gotten whom she described as having huge equipment, along with that one guy she got fucked by where she couldn't walk the day after. The guys with smaller equipment got boned.

And yes, penis size does matter. Any woman who says otherwise is lying through her teeth. Would she choose a 10'' over a 5''? Probably not unless she's a size queen. Would she choose a 7-8'' over a 5''? Definitely.

cover20 · 2014-12-29T19:29:31+00:00

Important background (the thesis should have been failed for not referencing this in the literature survey):

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/college/original-coed-consumer-sex-guide

Purpledrank · 2014-12-30T02:11:17+00:00

What kind of bullshit did she major in that a fuck list is considered an academic study?

Any of the liberal arts programs that are overridden with post-modernism.

Pomo basically refutes that is is beyond being critiqued. When you then label your work as po-mo, it can become anything because there is no backlash allowed which flat out says "that sucks". Of course if you're po-mo, you can take a steamy horseshit on anyone who isn't because that's just how po-mo works. Remind anyone of a particular ideology that resolves around privilege?

loddfavne · 2014-12-29T18:44:35+00:00

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MensaNominee · 2014-12-30T05:59:38+00:00

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Shaft-of-Patriarchy · 2014-12-30T09:26:42+00:00

Well that tells you all you need to know.

First guy - Pro - He's enormous

Con - It was a bit painful.

And remember gentlemen, size doesn't matter ~_~

gmflag · 2014-12-29T18:24:25+00:00

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5More_Minutes · 2014-12-30T03:48:02+00:00

Remember when I had to doa post modernity unit for my bachelors. Biggest load of crap ever concieved by the human mind. I waffled on about nothing in my final assignment for that unit and got 90 percent.

jonsnuh13 · 2014-12-30T04:37:39+00:00

Sounds like something my ex would do.

TekkomanKingz · 2014-12-30T15:41:41+00:00

This deals one powerful blow to the Femdom movement. Thanks Duke fellas for taking several blows for the team we appreciate it!

Edit - Ah shit just realized this was years ago...I wonder if this happened before or after the hooker incident?

bitches_be_crazy86 · 2014-12-30T17:56:17+00:00

Lol If a guy made a list of all the girls that he did and was specific about what they were willing to do ze feminists would be outraged

randomchaos1 · 2014-12-30T18:52:22+00:00

thaaaaaaaa fuck? cringe so fucking cringe worthy... I can't even imagine what would happen to a guy creating a fuck list.

2014-12-31T12:54:48+00:00

How the hell did this chick get into university?

Gold_Mouth · 2014-12-29T19:30:09+00:00

I wish I had went to college so I can write some shit up like this and get a grade on it.

superfreak77 · 2014-12-30T08:13:29+00:00

Flat out thought it was a new one. This is the same from 2010! wtf FAIL.

edmproducerXX · 2014-12-30T14:41:14+00:00

Truly this thesis could be made by a woman for it doesn't make fucking sense at all and she is all over he place.

Title	Woman creates a fuck list of Duke University athletes as a"thesis." Hell breaks loose.
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