Can a slut use tips and various strategies to improve to the extent that she can get commitment from a decent man?

catchandthrowaway · 2015-06-04T17:42:06+00:00

I'd argue that women have been way ahead of men in terms of sexual strategy - TRP is a group of men trying to catch up.

That being said, the goal is usually to land a more provider guy, which would mean. Typically that means not putting out early, not going out as much, dating a guy with a low partner count.

If you want more of an Alpha type, start acting like an Alpha. Hit the gym, become a bit more interesting, stop smoking, go out on dates instead of hook ups.

Most of the world isn't TRP, so trying to appeal to TRP doesn't make a lot of sense.

[deleted] · 2015-06-04T19:36:33+00:00

Someone who had a wild life can definitely turn it around. I think that RP's predictions that "hoes ain't loyal" is based around their experiences. But who is to say that one cannot honestly make a life change? However, having the self discipline to turn one's life around is quite difficult.

I was a foreveralone in my early 20s and then in a relationship for the end of that. However, I doubt I married "well" according to most ppl considering that my boyfriend / fiance has even less money than I do. But we play a lot of chess, checkers and guitars and hang out at malls together.

Boys who are ghetto / conventionally attractive were never attracted to me, they like girls who are conventionally hott. Water finds its own level. I don't share the interests of those douchebags either.

[deleted] · 2015-06-05T03:54:28+00:00

Improvements:

stop referring to yourself or other women as sluts
do whatever the fuck makes you happy
the alpha guys as described by rp are mostly sexist narcissists with a few redeeming features. Why would you want one?
if you want a relationship, look for someone who makes you happy. Could be younger, older or the same age. Younger guys are often less sexist but not always.
start as you mean to continue. Doing all the housework and cooking is really going to suck hard in a few years time. Ask old ladies in their 70s. They're over it. They hate it.
make your own money. A man is not a plan.

(Fuschia, my reply is to hypothetical you ;) )

rulenumber303 · 2015-06-04T17:15:24+00:00

I've known more women who meet that description marry kind decent hardworking men who already have money than I've known low-count women in their early 20s to marry kind decent hardworking men who already have money or end up with money. That just appears to be the reality... the advantage a bit of experience gives a women in deciding who to marry more than offsets the disadvantage a few extra years and losing her bright shiny newness gives her.

Seriously. Sluts marry well. TRP likes to think they don't, but if after my life is over I was offered the opportunity to come back and live another life but with the info I know now, I would seriously consider determinedly slutting it up so damn hard in my late teens and early twenties despite the fact that my nature is the complete opposite.

DietCokeImOnMyKnees · 2015-06-04T16:49:34+00:00

I think a lot of high value men would accept 15 partners, including some TRP adherents. 15 isn't particularly high, the problem for me would be more the drinking and smoking and "wild life" which implies that she hasn't really achieved anything to date.

If a girl is 30 its going to be hard to convince any TRP type that she has a low N, unless she has had a LTR that accounts for a big chunk of that time. That sort of thing is going to be very hard to fabricate.

For younger girls it might work. As a general rule to downplay the number just look at the clues TRP looks for and work off that:

*Conceal past drinking/drug taking lifestyle
*Delete social media that reveals party lifestyle
*Cut ties with slutty friends
*Feign strong preference for monogamous relationships

SlippyToadsWildRide · 2015-06-04T17:12:26+00:00

15 one night stands over a span of 10 years isn't that high to me (and I do factor in number count when selecting a long term partner). What matters more with that number is the following:

Did you make me wait a couple weeks because you "aren't that kind of girl"? Or did we fuck on the first or second date?
Did you lie and claim to have only been with a low number of men?
Are you an awesome person who I like hanging out with and want to add to my already awesome life, or are you boring, vapid, and only good for sex to me?

You're looking for tips, strategies, and ways to improve yourself?

Maintain your physical appearance and health, don't be deceitful / try and get men to see you as someone you aren't, fuck a guy if you find him attractive and you are comfortable with doing so (don't make him wait, thinking that he will be more likely to commit), and be a fun likable person.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2015-06-04T17:31:25+00:00

this is the heart of AFBB. sluts do great, they marry grateful betas who think they lucked out. the sluts just come to hate, disrespect and stop fucking them

TheGreasyPole · 2015-06-04T17:32:26+00:00

There's nothing she can do about the slutty past, but there are plenty of things she can do to raise her LTR attractiveness. They're the same list.

And as other posters have noted... Being a slut isn't a bar to an LTR... It's a "bad indicator", but not one that can't be made up elsewhere as long as your honest about your past.

Sure, maybe low count is ideal... But men are looking across a dozen different things... Max out on the others and men (just like women) look past things even things they'd previously have described as "deal breakers".

Get hot. Get slim. Show him honesty and loyalty. Make sure you fuck him good and often. Have homemaking skillz. Give a mean blowjob and be adventurous in the sack. Help him achieve his goals, even if that requires sacrifice from you. Make it clear that he's your man now, and as long as he keeps coming good there won't be anyone else.

Do all the above and a good guy wouldn't just forget your slutty past... He'd walk across a bed of nails with a hot coal up his Jacksie for a girl like that.

Reginleifer · 2015-06-04T17:19:49+00:00

http://np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/28bj21/shes_going_to_get_away_with_whatever_she_wants/

This post got a pretty high amount of upvotes, and it admits that sluts can get commitment.

But if you wanted tips on improving yer dirty slutty self.... yeah I believe in the possibility of redemption.

Smoking ages you I hear so that's gotta go first.... go exercising get trim, but if the number is the biggest factor.... go live somewhere else and cut yourself off social media. (maybe not the best choice if you love your family or have a white collar job)

Try paying a company to scrub those nude videos of you online? There's a decent service that does that forgot their name.

But all this requires planning and dedication, something a party girl slut might not want to do.

EDIT: np for the npgods

Nazrath2112 · 2015-06-04T16:57:29+00:00

Of course, you can get tips for anything, including how to be a better asshole. Are you asking for these tips specifically?

Aerobus · 2015-06-04T17:45:57+00:00

Think of this way. A former slut who works hard to please her man and respect him, and work through problems instead of uttering the d-word, and who understands what men wants in a relationship will fare much better than a former slut who still acts like a bitch.

GridReXX · 2015-06-04T17:57:21+00:00

Yes.

Not sure what defines "slut," but I would say most Western women who are married in 2015 can't say their husband is their "first and only."

So I will say yes.

A woman can secure commitment from a man despite not being a virgin maiden. Despite what TRP says, most men marry women who are nice and attractive. And a former slut can be "nice and attractive."

And you add in a bunch of other random skill sets and "love" and boom. Marriage.

despisedlove2 · 2015-06-04T19:47:21+00:00

An alpha in the TRP sense is selfish.

gregariousnefarious · 2015-06-04T21:12:38+00:00

Find an interesting hobby that brings some passion to your life (unless career does that already), and use that as a motivation to quit smoking and cut down on drinking. When dating, remember that your partner is a person with feelings and avoid 20's style drama, instead focus on keeping things positive (take space if that's not possible, stoicism isn't an exclusively male asset). Don't sweat about "competing with younger women", that'll just make you neurotic and insecure. Own your past without shame and consider the cool stuff you were able to do without deciding to lock yourself down early. Nonconventional men with strong passions and interests are best because they won't project weird insecurities onto you. Relax. There are plenty of men who want a woman with experience who is their own age, because the young ones can be really self centered or crazy. Work on not being self centered and crazy. Get into geeky shit, plenty of handsome needs out there in their 30s who are way more fun than alpha turds (chads). A nerdy man in his 30s is often a.beautiful thing, because.they're no longer self conscious about being needs and have had plenty of time to get laid a bit and grow out of any inferiority complexes. Plus many of them are a lot more confident than they once were due to some life and or career successes. As for you, it's simple really: do fun things that enrich your life, treat your body well, and avoid drama.

[deleted] · 2015-06-04T21:13:01+00:00

is there any hope?

Hope for what, exactly?

isn't selfish, and is 'alpha' as redpillers would describe

Considering that a certain amount of selfishness (of varying degree) seems to be a generally agreed trait of "alphas," this would depend on what level/type of selfishness you tolerate.

ECoast_Man · 2015-06-04T21:33:01+00:00

She can't really. She'll never be able to achieve her potential.

Her only option is to stop being a moron, and be the best she can be and hope to attract a beta bux. Hit the gym is really all she can do.

TheChemist158 · 2015-06-04T22:21:40+00:00

I'm curious OP, are you actually this person, or asking this as a hypothetical?

BaadKitteh · 2015-06-04T22:59:58+00:00

TFW 15 men casually in 10 years is considered a "wild life". @.@ I wonder what the number would have been for a "wild" man?

[deleted] · 2015-06-05T07:06:24+00:00

Oh you mean tricking a beta bux that she is valuable? Sluts do it all the time.

nemma88 · 2015-06-05T08:55:53+00:00

Yes, RPW have side bars about training men.

Bakerofpie · 2015-06-05T12:50:29+00:00

Living proof: yup, simply as far as your title goes. But 30 is pushing it unless you're ridiculously hot for your age and step your game up to 11. There's hope, but it would be a difficult road.

Why? Well, first of all, if you're out drinking and smoking with the same regular crowd chances are you've developed a reputation that is going to attract men who aren't marriage material. A man who makes good money and is "alpha" is probably not going to waste his time considering a current or extremely recently converted slut in her 30s.

[deleted] · 2015-06-05T20:56:02+00:00

If you are 30 and have 15 as a count, you aren't really a slut. imo.

I'm a guy and I'd had more than that by the time I reached my 20s.

Many of these rp guys will think 15 over 10 -15 years is something shocking - this is due to their own scarcity.

thereddespair · 2015-06-05T20:58:25+00:00

I think you can. For one, you can hide your past to an extent.

Wolves can wear sheep skin right?

EdinMiami · 2015-06-05T23:25:36+00:00

15? lol you are hardly a "slut". Nothing wrong with sluts. Sluts are great.

EDIT: by decent man i mean somone who makes at least a good amount of money, isn't selfish, and is 'alpha' as redpillers would describe.

The term you were looking for is "whore". Can a whore get a decent man man who has money? Isn't that what whores do?

[deleted] · 2015-06-06T23:02:48+00:00

There are tons of beta dudes ready to take your hands in marriage, you heavenly blessed beauty.

dragoness_leclerq · 2015-06-04T18:40:23+00:00

Cut down on the drinking/smoking - if not eliminate it completely.
Learn to be genuinely pleasant to be around.
Cultivate your domestic skills (cooking, cleaning, decorating, etc).
Learn to offer men something other than sex to obtain or maintain their attention.
Be feminine (i.e., dress femininely)
Find a new, non-slutty circle of friends.
Don't use terms like "exploration" "experimenting" or "finding yourself" when describing your past and never utter the phrase "I'm not that kind of girl...anymore".
Don't dress or act like a slut. You don't have to look or act like June Clever but shy away from overtly sexual/raunchy topics of conversation and keep that hemline in check.

Aspiring_Hobo · 2015-06-04T17:40:48+00:00

There are no tips because it's not up to women whether or not a guy wants to make them his girl. Women's job is to keep us around. It's our job to get them in the first place.

That being said, the odds are against her. Women depreciate like cars. 30 is where things start going downhill.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2015-06-04T18:45:57+00:00

EDIT: by decent man i mean somone who makes at least a good amount of money, isn't selfish, and is 'alpha' as redpillers would describe.

alpha = selfish, you are describing a beta

exit_sandman · 2015-06-04T16:44:53+00:00

Define "decent man" first.

kick6 · 2015-06-04T18:13:52+00:00

stop fucking
learn to be feminine (hint: stop drinking and smoking)
learn to cook
learn empathy

You're going to be a "flight risk" to the type of guy you want, but a history of dicks isn't a deal breaker for every red pill guy, you just have an uphill battle to convince him that "you're not like that any more." Note: this is the exact same phrase every other slut tried to use on him when she wanted commitment so you're going to spend a few years demonstrating that it's true if you're ever going to get commitment.

[deleted] · 2015-06-04T18:23:31+00:00

Here is my tip for attracting a mate of high quality: Be a person of high quality.

Kill_Your_Ego · 2015-06-04T18:28:44+00:00

Well when you tell me fifteen I'm going to assume you mean fifty. And of course that's only counting PIV. What are you looking for? A greater beta to give you money? An actual fulfilling relationship that lasts the rest of your life?

You need to be more specific about what you're looking for. You want children? You finally feel your ovaries shriveling up?

The only advice I can give you right now is lose weight. All women need to hear that every day.

Kill_Your_Ego · 2015-06-04T19:45:46+00:00

Things you can do:

Quit smoking. Stop drinking. Lose all the weight you've gained. Start dressing feminine. Think dresses and skirts that go past your knees. Grow your hair out. Don't dye it an unnatural color. Learn to cook and clean and build these habits. Look for men roughly ten years older then you. Put out fairly quick. Refusing your future husband's advances when you give it up for nothing will only show him that you do not value him and make him grow to despise you.

Don't lie. Fifteen partners by 30 is not a lot. Which is why we both know it's closer to fifty. Figure out what you want and prove, through your actions, that you will get it. Stop sleeping around for awhile while you get your shit together. We call it monk mode.

Unfortunately for you there are tons and tons of post wall sluts looking to cash out. You're a head above the newly divorced single mothers though. They're really really pathetic.

Don't act like you're raising your standards. It's just insane and so insulting to have a woman tell you, "well I'm older then I've ever been, uglier then ever, way past my peak fertility, have made horrible decisions, and decided I want something different. So you know what I'm gonna do? Massively raise my standards!"

For men in their thirties you are now competing with the 23 year old version of yourself and, frankly, she's better then you. You need to up your search to men in their forties. You need to raise your value through real actions while you lower your standards to the level where you're really at.

I would avoid lying. The women that lie their way into a relationship are never happy. How could they be? They can't even be honest with their own husbands. What kind of relationship is that?

Title	Can a slut use tips and various strategies to improve to the extent that she can get commitment from a decent man?
Author	Fuschia19
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Comments	112
Date	June 4, 2015 4:37 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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