Q4W: How did you expect men to respond to the changes in dating and sexual relationships following the destruction of the family unit by feminism.

pinkdrawings · 2020-01-06T20:30:42+00:00

This is a little bit of an odd question. Do you think the 20-30 year olds on this subreddit caused it? You'd have to ask old, and some dead, feminists what they expected. I'm 23, its always been like this.

sublimemongrel · 2020-01-06T20:03:57+00:00

My man and I have a family so I’m not sure what you’re referencing. We have two incomes I guess that’s a change so yay a higher standard of living for us and a nanny to watch the baby instead of me being home all day.

I don’t particularly think it’s that difficult to find a man who will want to marry and start a family with you if that is what you’re getting at.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2020-01-06T18:33:16+00:00

Women dont care what "men" do, they care about finding individual men

nice_rooklift_bro · 2020-01-06T18:33:08+00:00

Any individual can do whatever it wants; I don't expect an entire category to do anything; I merely expect individuals to honour whatever agreements they made with me.

I don't care about what feminists do either; they can do whatever they want; there's a difference between feminist and female; I don't partake in all these silly gender and identity wars.

NarniaFox · 2020-01-07T04:19:16+00:00

I don't agree with your statement about destroying feminism, but I can answer your question anyway.

I expect people to be honest about their plans. Do you want only sex? Okay, it's fine, there are other people who don't want to settle down. Do you want to get married and have children? There are people who want it too. Do you want to get married and never have children? Find a person with the same plans.

Of course, I also expect that there will be less and less domestic violence and abuse. People should know that they can get in real trouble for this and that victims do have real ways of escaping.

If both partners work, men should take equal responsibility for housework and children. I think that both partners should take maternity/paternity leave for a couple of months, it would be better for their relationship and for their careers.

2020-01-06T19:26:06+00:00

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poppy_blu · 2020-01-07T00:26:07+00:00

There is nothing new about pua or TRP. The basic knowledge has been around literally forever. What made the TRP and PUA subs so popular?

Shy guys who grew up in a generation where parents no longer forced their kids to learn social skills
conservative guys being increasingly ostracized for their views looking for a place to circle jerk about how much better life was in the 50s.
followed by a more recent influx of non western men who can’t adapt to western SMPs trying to sort out their cultural baggage

eternitypasses · 2020-01-06T18:24:40+00:00

I don’t agree with your premise that the family unit was destroyed by feminism.

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Sophiatab · 2020-01-07T16:04:54+00:00

The family unit hasn't been destroyed by feminism. It's been improved to a more equal relationship in which partners can love and respect each other.

Orange_Paisley · 2020-01-06T19:55:46+00:00

I don’t care how whiny little pansies respond to anything. Plenty of decent, employed, good looking men out there.

2020-01-06T18:29:18+00:00

I have no expectations for men in relation to anything feminism. Do what you want...

[deleted] · 2020-01-06T20:01:36+00:00

I don't care as long as predatory men stay away from women.

DebatePony · 2020-01-06T23:38:49+00:00

Wait, the family unit is destroyed? I guess I should tell my husband that we have to put the kid up for adoption.

PennnyLame · 2020-01-06T18:25:52+00:00

The family unit hasn’t been destroyed by feminism. It’s been changed. What should men do? Be open to marrying someone who makes or will make more/equal money than you and what type of partner you’ll need to be in that structure.

thicclikebicc · 2020-01-06T19:52:43+00:00

I expected men to become gold diggers who would let me do anything to them in bed for a penny.

Turns out they're willing to pay me to do anything I want to them in bed.

Dora_Bowl · 2020-01-06T23:11:32+00:00

When did this destruction of the family unit occur? I must have missed it.

Imperator_Red · 2020-01-07T05:12:46+00:00

As if they thought that far ahead? Women are children. Does the child consider that the rule against taking candy out of the jar is so that he doesn’t become unhealthy from eating too many sweets? Of course not. He just knows sweets taste good, and there is a rule against eating them, and that sucks.

2020-01-06T20:39:47+00:00

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Redpiller77 · 2020-01-06T22:51:54+00:00

Men aren't the issue with the destruction of the family but the kids. Will have to wait how future generations end up to see if the current situation is beneficial or not.

Reisiluu · 2020-01-06T22:53:00+00:00

I would expect men who don't have a family to run around trying to get laid as much as they can, accidentally get some hoes pregnant, have less structure in their lives and engage more in violent or risky behavior. Depending on circumstances they may struggle with finding a purpose or maintaining optimal mental health.

yuckyuck13 · 2020-01-07T01:38:53+00:00

Two potential outcomes, the continual rise of violent crimes among young men. Or the less likely outcome because it's "sexist", would be men being positive male role models and teaching boys to be real men.

xoxuv · 2020-01-08T15:36:27+00:00

What was intended is explained on the book "The black book of the new left".

Simply, feminism was appropriated by communism, and turned into communist ideology. The destruction of the family is not an unintended consequence, but an objective on itself.

One of the earliest proposers of the destruction of the family was Alexandra Kollontai. They wanted the family to stop existing, so everybody could have the same education from childhood, by the state.

It was attempted on the early soviet union, and leaded to a disaster, where children were abandoned on the streets, "left to the sate". That's how communists learned that the destruction of the family causes the destruction of the society, and it was turned into a weapon against western nations.

MuleFool42 · 2020-01-06T19:57:16+00:00

My guess is that nobody thought about how men would react. It is all unexpected.

2020-01-06T20:03:03+00:00

Personally I was hoping we'd go back to the days when men just picked up their choice mate and carried her off to a cave and had his way with her. But it's almost like the opposite happened and I was extremely disappointed.

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