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"You know, maybe we should stop seeing each other. I have another guy that has been asking me out, maybe I should let him." I agree. The tears fall and I get a clean house and home cooked meal in the interim.

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by seattleron on /r/TheRedPill
07 April 2016 07:56 PM UTC
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Summary: Plate tries to call my bluff when bringing up the talk of an LTR with a statement to the effect of: "Maybe we should stop seeing each other, another guy has been asking me out maybe I should let him." I instantly agree, waterfalls come from her eyes, the next day she cleans my apartment and cooks a meal. Also, banged 3 times in the interim.

Body: Had a pretty regular plate come over couple weeks ago with an attitude. I could tell something was up from the beginning. We've been banging for about 2 months and I can read her like a book. She's even said it's scary how well I know exactly what she's thinking at all times (read: normal hamster tendencies). She feels vulnerable around me and even told me "I think you're perfect" on more than one occassion. She's hooked pretty bad, and seriously cannot get enough sex when she comes over. She always brings me food, so my stomach is full and balls are empty every single time she comes to my apartment.

Anyway, the other day she comes over and has an attitude. I am in the middle of doing some work on my side business on my computer and I can tell she's got a bug up her ass for some reason. I ignore.

Her: Annoyed sigh.

Me: No response.

Her: Pay attention to me!

Me: Are you going to do a magic trick? (smirk)

Her: You're a real asshole sometimes you know that?

Me: Yes.

She just blurts it out.

Her: What are we?

Me: (I do not flinch, still staring at my computer) I'm hungry, not sure about you?

Her: Seriously, what are we?

Me: I'm serious, I'm about to go make a sandwich.

Her: I hate you! You're so mean to me! You know, maybe we should stop seeing each other. Another guy has been asking me out, maybe I should let him!

At this point i'm starting to get pissed as I have work to finish up, she's killing my good mood, and I hate these talks which seem to happen more and more lately. They're just fucking exhausting.

I instantly fire back without hesitation.

Me: I agree. Lock the door on your way out.

The tears come rushing down at this point. I get the whole "you don't even care about me" speech. She tells me how unappreciative I am, how she cares so much about me, blah, blah. I do not respond. When she is done I just tell her that she knew I didn't want a girlfriend and have been honest with her from the start, I did not promise anything, and that if she thinks it's in her best interests to not see me any longer, I understand. I show no emotion (I'm not mean mind you, I stopped on the computer and I'm looking at her at this point). She is sitting on the floor crying while I'm at the computer desk and then gets up and leaves.

For the next 2 hours I get floods of long texts. From anger, to sadness, to being called a "worthless" POS. I lol'd at that one. I'm a pretty productive SOB, so she is really grasping at straws now. I do not respond to any of them.

She then begs to come back over and starts the apologies. She says she is on her way over. My only response was: heading to bed. 20 minutes later she comes to the front door, we bang 3 times and I go to sleep. I wake up to a clean house and a sweet breakfast made when I wake up.

Not a single word since then about being exclusive, and she's been much, much happier lately. I don't get it really, other than the fact that she must now realize I have a spine and her emotions do not affect me. She is taking comfort in that and is really trying to prove her worth to me. As many of you know, I do enjoy LTR's with good girls, so maybe she will prove to be worth one, but I learned a long time ago you need time with a woman to decide if she's worth it, and no way I'm doing that after barely 8 weeks of sporadic sex.

Lesson Learnt: Keep frame 100% of the time. It only makes their attraction to you increase, and it shows that she can trust your masculinity. The bonus is that they know you won't be manipulated by emotion, so they have to truly prove their worth.

Edit: grammar and added context.



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167 upvotesjohnchapel3 years ago

The tears come rushing down at this point. I get the whole "you don't even care about me" speech. She tells me how unappreciative I am, how she cares so much about me, blah, blah.

I know AWALT and everything, but aren't you guys just a little fascinated that this exact script, word for word seems to be in every girls arsenal, and that every one of us have heard that verbatim as OP describes? AND from multiple girls?

Think about that fact for a moment. I'm so fascinated by the fact that we all have, not even statistically, but realistically, had the exact same fight as each other.

92 upvotesnaMlliPdeR3 years ago

I've had it happen with every girl I've ever slept with (because even when I was blue pill, I didn't like relationships, and never had one).

EVERY SINGLE ONE has at one point used that shit test. AND, I used to royally fuck them all up. I'd use logic to explain to them why they're wrong, I'd get investment in the argument, they'd lose attraction, no more sex.

Ever since I started reading TRP, I have one go to line. "Go argue with someone else if you're in a bad mood". Then I leave. And I wait.

NOT ONCE have they not come back to apologize within a day or two at max.

17 upvotesChoMinga3 years ago

Can you go into detail on any of those times?

As someone who hasn't started anything yet (monk mode), I'd like to have insight into these types of shit-tests before I inevidently encounter one.

127 upvotesnaMlliPdeR3 years ago

Sure.

Usually from the first date, I'll use very aggresive and masculine body language to try and get them as eager for sex as possible. Manly kissing (pull a bit of hair, kiss hard, pull back and tease her, etc.), lots of touching. Basically get her to associate you with sex.

Once we'd had sex, I talk to her about how I like her, but I don't do relationships, and that she shouldn't expect much from us but having fun. But I do it with a smile, like it's no big deal, keep her in my frame (which is a happy frame).

Anyway, usually around 1 month or so, the inevitable comes. She'll say that she's wasting her time with me, I don't do stuff for her, etc. etc. I think this comes either from her seeing what her friends get out of their BBs or from TV, but regardless, they get it in their heads that "I should be giviing her more".

Universally, the reason they are doing this is because they have temporarily forgotten how wet they get for you, and how much they crave you. They never do this during sex, or during times of passion. Only once they've sat home alone, thought about it, and hamstered "he's not all that".

So when she does it, if you cave in and try to argue it, she'll stick to her emotional guns. There is only one perfect answer. Tell her to fuck off (in a nice way). Mine is "Go argue with someone else".

What this achieves is getting her out of your face, while mantaining dignity. She hates it that she couldn't bring you down to her level. But a day or two go by, she remembers how much of a stud you are, how great the sex is, and you being that upfront about "Go argue with someone else" shows you're not needy. She starts getting aches in her pussy for another pounding, and the only way to get it is by typing something stupid like "hey... I might have over reacted".

To that, I just reply "sure". It's amused mastery. You know that's how girls are. She appreciates that you don't punish her for it. Then, just set a date for when it pleases you, fuck her hard. This shit test might show up again, she might one day eventually decide to end it (remember, pussy is not yours, it's just your turn), but doesn't matter. It usually has them coming back begging for more dick.

Was this what you were looking for?

46 upvotessweetleef3 years ago

She'll say that she's wasting her time with me,

Think about the rationale behind that statement - she is "wasting" time with you, because you haven't committed to her support. You haven't assured her that you will support her in the future, so her being with you to that point has been useless.

Her motive is not to enjoy the time she spends with you; she is only investing her time into you in order to obtain something (that you're not yet giving her, hence the "waste").

7 upvotesJupeJupeSound3 years ago

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3 upvotessoadaa3 years ago

Wow, great perspective on this. I didn't consider what the undertone of that line meant, just accepted it.

13 upvotesNO_LAH_WHERE_GOT3 years ago

/u/redpillschool how do we award points to people? This comment deserves it.

8 upvotesredpillschool3 years ago

It's a feature reserved for endorsed contributors, but I'll read it over and evaluate for points.

4 upvotesnight-addict3 years ago

Seconded, this is a great basic script to a LOT of my previous sexual encounters.

5 upvotesseattleron [OP]3 years ago

/u/ChoMinga this is spot fucking on. Digest what /u/naMLliPdeR said here, because it's just how it works. Amused mastery. Good, hard sex. She will leave you to fuck someone else some day. Dont get attached. All that shit.

3 upvotesChoMinga3 years ago

Very much so. This was exactly the kind of explanation I was looking for.

After reading the rest of the thread and your reply, I do feel I gained a lot of insight into the "I deserve more/better" situation.

6 upvotesnaMlliPdeR3 years ago

Keep in mind though that the cold "Go argue with someone else" is for when she's disrespectful, and arguing, or when she's naggy and pushes the topic.

It's not for when she feels insecure. As a man, she subconsciously looks to you for stability. So when she comes to you saying (like the OP mentioned) "What are we", "do we have a future", etc. these are all valid questions in her mind, and you have to pull her away from her insecure frame into your secure one, but all without giving up any ground. If you're rude while she's feeling insecure, it just makes her feel worse, and while she might still get wet for you, at least from my experience, it can end to ruining relationships (by relationship, I include FWB, plates, etc.).

1 upvoteswatcher453 years ago

Its a good line. Ive used something similar but more like "if you want to argue then go tell the wall, it cares more than i do."

1 upvotesBenny7573 years ago

Great comment. Agreed. Doesn't it just show the futility of an LTR in our society today? Makes me wanna steer right to MGTOW. LTR's are just not worth it.

1 upvotesangry-neckbeard3 years ago

What's the difference between this and a comfort test? They seem very similar.

5 upvotesnaMlliPdeR3 years ago

A shit test is when she is testing your alphaness, testing your frame, testing your resolve, etc. It's basically a sexual fitness test. Tells her and assures her of your SMV. Basically, it's what a girl does to be sure that your SMV is as high as she thinks it is.

A comfort test happens when she feels that your SMV is too high, and she wants you to comfort her in the sense of telling her "you're good enough for me". She wants to feel like she belongs with someone as awesome as you. It's basically a girl getting paranoid in thoughts and wanting you to tell her everything will be alright, hence the name, comfort test, she seeks comfort.

The two can appear incredibly similar in execution. But they are done for different reasons.

8 upvotesjohnchapel3 years ago

Yes totally! But what im trying to get at, and honestly, I trust that you'll confirm:

You've LITERALLY heard this script word for word, haven't you?

That fact, assuming you confirm, is fascinating, right? I can't even draw a parrallel.

3 upvotesrp_divorced3 years ago

Yep! I heard it three days ago.

5 upvotesjohnchapel3 years ago

My LTR and I don't fight, so the last time I had this conversation with a girl was when my current and I were "open" as it were. The side girl said this to me. And I reacted exactly like OP. Haven't responded since. She's still thirsty.

But again, same exact words. Thats just so godamn fascinating. Do we, as males, do any sort of webbed convoluted behavioral pattern, complete with script like that universally?

28 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

I've made posts about this phenomenon but it may be time for a another.

Women have three moves and only three moves in their arsenal.

Play in your emotions. Appeal to your masculinity wanting to protect her. Sex. That's it. They have no game.

Game comes from failure and women don't fail. Men have a million weapons in our arsenal and smart men use them all.

9 upvotesOmnisovereign3 years ago

Women have three moves and only three moves in their arsenal.

Play in your emotions. Appeal to your masculinity wanting to protect her. Sex. That's it. They have no game.

Game comes from failure and women don't fail. Men have a million weapons in our arsenal and smart men use them all.

That's some real shit right there...

RP men play chess, and gain more piece as we get more experience/knowledge....

Women are playing checkers with their 3 pieces (as you eloquently put it).

We can see them coming from a long way.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Exactly.

Getting good at Checkers is a lot easier. You can master Checkers pretty quickly because it's a limited game. Most games end up boring because of its limitations.

Chess has a MILLIONS options, but once you master it everyone else seems pedestrian. Those beneath you, even slightly, are nothing more than amateurs.

3 upvotesjohnchapel3 years ago

It just seem so statistically interesting that males end up being the more complex of the species. Again, objectively, I'm not even making a judgement. Its just so fascinating that we have all had this situation happen, and when it did, these exact words were used.

9 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

If men don't develop a hefty arsenal of tools and skills, we end up homeless without anyone in society giving a flying fuck about you. Women always have a vagina to fall back on. Women realize that much earlier than men do.

3 upvotesdr_warlock3 years ago

Ability comes from necessity.

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Stats have nothing to do with it.

Women fear failure and the world is designed to prevent it from them because most of them are fragile and can't handle it, much like children(Neoteny explains that.)

Men are BUILT off of failure. The world gives us nothing and takes from us everything.

We've all had this happen because without failure there is no growth, you just use the same tricks over and over and over.

1 upvotesRedasshole3 years ago

I hope you do a post on those three weapons soon.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

I already have but I'll do a new one. We get new members here all the time

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13 upvotesseattleron [OP]3 years ago

Lol - good point. We have all been berated the exact same way.

I'd say they all do it because it works 99% of the time.

23 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Its because they get it from tv. Girls love drama and Rom coms. Hell, the most recent episode of arrow had a main character on their death bed say that buddy and other female character are meant for each other, despite their falling out.

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

I used to watch smallville when i was 12, not sure how it influenced me.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Never watched it so I can't say.

3 upvotesJohnny_Lawless_Esq3 years ago

It's the human paradox. We are all unique, complex individuals with nuance and depth, but on the other hand, we're all just slender, hairless apes who are particularly good at tool-making.

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471 upvotesChris_Phoenix3 years ago

This looked like a last ditch effort to put you under control. A nuclear shit test for sure. You did exceptionally well, and you can tell so by her disposition to you now. It's still surreal to me how often these intense displays of emotion are just power plays to domesticate and turn men into good little betas

But as I've said before: "She's going to try to break you, because she's looking for a man she cannot break"

245 upvotestrancedj3 years ago

"She's going to try to break you, because she's looking for a man she cannot break"

Solid fucking gold right here.

13 upvotes94redstealth3 years ago

agreed, that quote is being committed to memory right now

6 upvotesNamelessfear93 years ago

This little nugget of wisdom should be taught to all our sons from here untill the end of time. It's TRP in one sentence. Brilliant.

8 upvotes94redstealth3 years ago

if i would have been taught this as a young man, I would have done soooooo many things different

6 upvotesMolthen3 years ago

Read The Fountainhead by Ann Rand. One of the main characters is exactly like this.

30 upvotesbardshaman3 years ago

This brought an Oscar Wilde quote to mind, tried looking for it, but couldn't find it. The basic gist is "women will pursue a man they're highly attracted to, then once they have him, proceed to turn him into something that absolutely repulses them."

I did find some gems on this page, though

Woman haven't really changed since Wilde's day.

7 upvotesseattleron [OP]3 years ago

Weird thing was, he liked men.

17 upvotesGC0W303 years ago

It's like Milo Yiannopoulos.

They have the distance to observe women without ANY cognitive dissonance about the shit they're accepting from their women.

Don't know about Wilde... but most straight guys are never told the truth by one woman about how that woman treats others.

Gays hear that all the time... and men who maintain frame sometimes do too. The rare platonic best friend thing happens, with honesty, but that's rare as shit.

3 upvotesChris_Phoenix3 years ago

It's always wonderful to see what some of the great minds had to say about women and the sexual marketplace, I appreciate the link

94 upvotesseattleron [OP]3 years ago

But as I've said before: "She's going to try to break you, because she's looking for a man she cannot break"

Exactly. It's just like us looking for a sweet, feminine, virgin, young, conservative 9. She just has to jump through more hoops to figure it out, we just have to have eyeballs.

It's still surreal to me how often these intense displays of emotion are just power plays to domesticate and turn men into good little betas

Agreed. It's crazy how women are such different creatures, how their emotions are used as toys and how they can stare you right in the face and not mean a damn thing they're saying or portraying.

39 upvotesRacism_Is_Natural3 years ago

It's still surreal to me how often these intense displays of emotion are just power plays to domesticate and turn men into good little betas

Funny enough internalizing this is how I fixed my relationship with my mother. She's a real bipolar bitch to my step-father, who himself is pathetic. He works 40 hours a week and then spends his leisure time taking care of my mother's organic farm or taking care of the puppies which my mother breeds.

I've been out of the house for over 6 years now but when I come back to visit and get even a little attitude from her I just tell her if you don't behave around me I'll get in my car and leave right now. And (surprise! /s) we have a wonderful weekend.

I keep telling my stepfather to not take any of her shit but divorce is like his biggest fear so he just pampers her, unknowingly making her hate him more.

9 upvotesshiggityshoo3 years ago

Fuck man, my dad has been totally cucked by my mom and it kills me. Long story short, this bitch hasn't worked for years because she lied about being raped - to which he fought tooth and nail to fix through the legal system, barely leaving us with enough to keep a roof over our head. She's really just a good for nothing, but he's so enthralled by this idea of the woman he "loves" still being there somewhere, and how marriage/sex is so sacred. She works some min wage 40/hr/wk job now and wanted to take a day off for her birthday, and then go spend money on a manicure and shit. He gave me this angry tirade to which I agreed in that she shouldn't take the day off because it's absurd - and then decided to do a 180 on me the following day after I'd made plans. When I tried to hold him to his word, he gave me some cucked bullshit about how "Things changed." which is really him just chickening out and letting her get her way so he doesn't have to deal with her... Won't divorce her because she'll likely take half his shit, yadda yadda.

It fucking blows to think he used to be my big male role model, who I thought was alpha as fuck, but it turns out he's almost completely talk.

11 upvotesRacism_Is_Natural3 years ago

Word. My biological father ran out of my mother before I was born so I've been raised by cucks all my life. Still suffering from a beta mindset sometimes if I'm not careful.

It's why I gravitated towards supporting Trump. He's like an actual alpha father I never had. I even started doing that frown-chin-up combo technique for when someone is giving you bullshit.

41 upvotestrpdgc3 years ago

Trump doesn't give a shit about you. If you want to be a real man you need some fucking reason and accountability.

9 upvotesshiggityshoo3 years ago

Just keep working at it bro. We'll all make it with a bit of consistency and willpower.

9 upvotesWolfofAnarchy3 years ago

He's like an actual alpha father I never had

You should really listen to Trumps speeches he made like 10-20 years ago about mindset, motivation and success. Life lessons like they are from a father.

3 upvotesWolfofAnarchy3 years ago

frown-chin-up

http://i.giphy.com/xTiTnHXbRoaZ1B1Mo8.gif

4 upvotesWilreadit3 years ago

Dude you looking for an alpha father figure who is going to take care of you is your problem. That makes you weak.

Forget about how you were conceived, who raised you or stuff like that. This is the internet age, these things do not matter. A man can build himself if he has the desire and the energy to do it. The path is waiting for him.

So quit the self pity now. And be the man that you want to be. Noone is going to do that for you. Not Trump, not anyone here.

-6 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

He's a babybacked bitch lol. He wouldn't be able to live one day as a regular man without his money. Sure he has money, but it was handed to him by his father. He's the used car salesman of billionaires. A true bullshit artitst. Sure you can find some redeemable qualities, but the man is a moron and out of touch with the true reality of life. Anyways I suggest not to take his frame of personality if you want to get anywhere.

-5 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

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8 upvotesStbRPG3 years ago

And this, noblemen, is why we can't take them and what they say at face value.

8 upvotesseattleron [OP]3 years ago

Don't take my words so literally.

Of course they're human, but they're not male.

3 upvotesRedSugarPill3 years ago

Neuroscientist checking in. My assessment indicates that you're a dumb-ass troll.

0 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

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1 upvotesRedSugarPill3 years ago

We all know about pseudoscience, darling. Now show us your tits, or get the fuck out.

2 upvotesSuicidalPilot3 years ago

these intense displays of emotion are just power plays to domesticate and turn men into good little betas

This is gold. Also, sorry no gold

1 upvotes94redstealth3 years ago

sigh . . . you are so correct. and to think of all the shit test I failed in my previous life

3 upvotesChris_Phoenix3 years ago

Good news, you know now and you can start crushing it. You don't have to waste another day under the foot of a woman, and that's cause for celebration

1 upvotesRedasshole3 years ago

To me, the most important thing about this story is why I would have reacted in more or less the same manner and why ANYONE who takes the red pill would have.

Her: Annoyed sigh.

Women are not important. I am. They love drama. I don't need them. I don't give a shit about the last reason she has of being mildly upset. Hence:

Me: No response.

.

Her: Pay attention to me!

Best thing is to make fun of her. Amused mastery. So :

Me: Are you going to do a magic trick? (smirk)

.

Her: Pay attention to me!

Little spoiled girls wants my attention. She is so silly. I can't take her seriously :

Me: Are you going to do a magic trick? (smirk)

.

Her: What are we?

Ah, classic and to be expected. Women wants to secure commitment from men. But I won't commit to a woman that easily. Hell, I may not even commit to a woman at all given what the modern woman is...The solution, amused mastery again.

Me: (I do not flinch, still staring at my computer) I'm hungry, not sure about you?

I don't care about you. "Us" does not exist. I don't fear losing you.

Her: Seriously, what are we?

Fucking annoying and powerless. You know a girl has no power anymore when she uses "seriously".

Me: I'm serious, I'm about to go make a sandwich.

Sorry you are not inducing any feeling of fear in me. Going about my life as usual. No big deal.

Her: I hate you! You're so mean to me! You know, maybe we should stop seeing each other. Another guy has been asking me out, maybe I should let him!

Ah, yeah. I never wanted commitment. She can fuck whoever she wants, I will react appropriately by nexting her or downgrading her. I don't control her. I watch her actions and decide of mine.

Me: I agree. Lock the door on your way out.

Go ahead and fuck him. I don't care.

And then, the whole follow up is classicely predicted by TRP. OP is only a guy who learned the truths about women on this sub and used them to his advantage. TRP works.

1 upvotesChris_Phoenix3 years ago

Ah, I have a thing for breakdowns like this. You're exactly right. I'd also add that if she had committed to the beta she would just be texting OP a few weeks (or days) later begging for him to come turn her inside out again

143 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

"You better treat your girl right or someone else will...."

Everytime I hear this load of horseshit, i'll think about this post. Well played sir.

107 upvoteskez883 years ago

That quote is correct, its just that BP definition of 'Right' and RP definition of 'Right' are completely different

18 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

BP: treat her how she says RP: treat her how she wants

6 upvotesChrience3 years ago

It's the same with "be yourself" and "there's plenty more fish in the sea".

In BP lens, the first means "be complacent with the state you're in now, and don't change". The second means "there will be another special woman to wife up someday"

In RP lens, the first means "demonstrate your own value to others" . The second one means "women are replaceable, and if you lose one you can get another later" (there are no Snowflakes, because women are so basic they are largely the same, like fish).

5 upvotesMasterRoshi213 years ago

"If you don't treat your women like cattle someone else will"

3 upvotesRedasshole3 years ago

I'm 100% down for letting someone else treat her right. This idiot won't get anything from her and she will only get wetter for me.

1 upvotesIGoYouStayTwoAutumns3 years ago

So someone else will buy her drinks but I still get to have sex with her at the end of the day?

Sounds like a win-win to me.

-111 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Don't treat them right, treat them like garbage.

111 upvotesThisPyre3 years ago

No, treat them like a human being, but don't put up with their bullshit.

10 upvotesNO_LAH_WHERE_GOT3 years ago

This triggers a thought for me. Have you ever seen a child demanding ice cream or a toy? I witnessed it a while ago at a Burger King. Parents would walk past with their children, and the children would beg, shout, scream, cry, throw tantrums. It really blew my mind. I realized that what I was witnessing was something akin to addiction. There is an appetite and an impulse at the center of the child, and it is willing to manipulate and use the child to manipulate and use the parents in turn. The parents are typically tired and eventually give in.

This is a mistake. And it's the same mistake we all make when we give in to people who throw tantrums, make unreasonable demands. When we do that, we feed the demons.

We have a moral imperative to shut down bullshit, whether it comes from a child, from a woman, or worst of all from ourselves.

2 upvotessweetleef3 years ago

Exactly; children sense a need, and lack the emotional development to restrain themselves or to know how to satisfy it while respecting others. They try different methods to satisfy it, and when they find that manipulation works, they use it - and if allowed, will internalize it as a permanent personality trait. It's a means to an end, they don't understand why it's wrong.

The constant error is in men expecting women to act any differently.

2 upvotesbornredd3 years ago

The looks I get from other parents when one of my little one tosses herself on the ground when she doesn't get what she wants, and I walk away are priceless.

If she starts making a lot of noise, I'll pick her up and take her outside.

But I never give in to that bullshit.

-78 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

No. Treat them like garbage. They love it. Most women don't deserve any compassion or kindness.

60 upvotesThisPyre3 years ago

Based on your post history, you're still in the anger phase. When you say "most women" it's truly remarkable how similar you sound to a rad fem when they refer to men.

-57 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

I'm a misogynist through and through. Even in the acceptance phase, id be a misogynist.

8 upvotesNomNomYoMomma3 years ago

Yo this prince is a sociopath. Keep an eye on this mf

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Lol it's the truth. Treat them like dirt, they'll stick to you like mud. Treat em mean to keep em keen.

12 upvotesHedoNNN3 years ago

e a fucking gentleman and give the

OP didn't, he treated her right, firmly but still respectfully.

-9 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Lmao nah, that was a figure of speech.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

That's a little too far. You want to culivate an air of superiority rather than actively putting someone down

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Why not both? I don't mean treat them bad in an insecure way. Just playfully disrespect them, ignore them, make them know you view them as lesser through your actions. Drives em crazy.

26 upvotesMattyAnon3 years ago

how she cares so much about me

Sure.... caring enough to threaten to leave and see someone else...

much happier lately. I don't get it really, other than the fact that she must now realize I have a spine and her emotions do not affect me.

It's almost like women are happier with a strong man who won't take her shit... ;)

8 upvoteszeny_two3 years ago

Sure.... caring enough to threaten to leave

Yes, exactly! That's an output of emotion that's only shown when you care about something. You would threaten to leave your job, but you wouldn't threaten to leave your banana stickers. Nobody cares about stickers.

39 upvotesfaded_jester3 years ago

Calling her bluff is a win/win situation. She either (momentarily) realizes she's full of it and starts acting right, or she leaves in which case you still win because men don't need drama queens in their lives. Eventually she'll try again but as long as you remain the same she'll have two options....admit (only to herself!) she wants you more than she wants to be "right", or hamster enough to believe she "deserves better", gets her a BP boyfriend, and wonders why she is still so unhappy.

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3 upvotesfaded_jester3 years ago

True but I'd be a little wary of what might happen if she gets caught. I've heard too many horror stories to take that risk knowingly.

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13 upvotesfaded_jester3 years ago

But if she views him as her golden bb ticket she was "raped"....3-5 times a week....for months. She was simply too afraid to say no and feared for life. It's laughable to us but to a jury of her peers it's all the proof they need. Although I guess no matter what (sadly) you take that risk every time you engage in sex with a western woman. I'm seriously considering hiring a lawyer to write up some type of consensual sex agreement and telling girls they can sign it or they can go home.

Yeah I'm a little paranoid. I don't have much and I don't want to risk what I do have on the innocent angel assurance of "I would never do that!". Every guy that has ever been fucked like that didn't think she would do it either.

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22 upvotes1v1crown3 years ago

Or he murders you with a pistol... and not even a GOOD pistol... a fucking beta ass .22

1 upvotessuckersdie993 years ago

This. and even more in my country which has a law that makes you able to legally murder both cheating parties if you caught them. Though ive never heard it occur, its still in the legal system

-16 upvotesverify_account3 years ago

Betas don't know how to use a gun or shoot. Or they buy some shitty pre-built AR (LOL pre-built...) and they never practice.

14 upvotesjohnchapel3 years ago

Ive been caught several times. Trust me. Cucks never do anything.

One guy was so beta, he actually messaged me on facebook and wrote "You shouldnt be doing what you're doing". Literally the weirdest message you can get from someone who knows you're banging their wife.

8 upvotesseattleron [OP]3 years ago

Yup, this is how it usually ends up. If they were crazy enough to do something stupid either they'd be too weird to get a chick, or alpha enough to not have to.

4 upvotesbornredd3 years ago

That's because if they felt like they could get away with it, they'd do it too.

Men don't really resent men for fucking women. They resent "their" woman fucking another dude.

9 upvotesjohnchapel3 years ago

I laughed at it and told showed it to her and said "Jesus. No wonder you come over here to fuck when you got a woman for a husband."

Whats fucked up is her reaction was just like "hmmmm" and then we fucked. She didnt freak out or anything. She was just like "Eh, I'll handle it later".

Women are fucking weirdos.

5 upvotesdking1683 years ago

After TRP, I've always called bluffs with women. Abundance mentality is strong. As long as you don't get her pregnant, she pretty much has no power.

22 upvotesalways-be-closing3 years ago

From anger, to sadness, to being called a "worthless" POS. I lol'd at that one. I'm a pretty productive SOB, so she is really grasping at straws now

Gotta love that shit.

Because the subtext, of course, is that you only have worth as a human being insofar as you serve her.

Too fucking close to home.

47 upvotesDocbear643 years ago

I'm impressed, I foresee these talks on the horizon for me and my plate and have been curious about how best to approach them . I'm definitely taking notes don't be mean but definitely express her decision to stick around is a choice and whether she chooses to stay or not I will survive .

34 upvotesseattleron [OP]3 years ago

I foresee these talks on the horizon for me and my plate and have been curious about how best to approach them

Just be strong. A rock. Let her get all emotional, say whatever she wants, and you sit there and don't say a word until she's done. Then state your case, don't be a dick about it, and leave it at that. She will love you more for it and will feel desire for you and your masculinity. 99% of guys crack under these situations and seeing a guy who doesn't is extremely attractive to them. This is like the 5th time I've had this kind of talk (a talk about LTRing immediately followed by an emotional tirade) happen over the years and every single time it's resulted in her wanting me even more.

She craves masculinity, be a fucking gentleman and give the little lady what she wants.

Edit: This is different than a woman who's been with a guy for years who wouldn't commit and is at the end of her rope and is serious about leaving for another guy. Different siatuation there, of which I've had happen once, this is just another test with a new girl and an example of how to pass it. A woman who you care about and is at the end of her rope with waiting is a different beast altogether.

9 upvotesPM_ME_GOOD_ART3 years ago

How would you handle that beast?

11 upvotesClint_Redwood3 years ago

The year+ with a girl that wants more?

Short answer is, if you are asking the question, you aren't experienced enough to handle it. Revert to OP for proper procedures and handling.

The right answer unfortunately is to complicated and contextual. Ever case will be different. Best guidelines are to weigh what she brings to the table vs what you bring. Does she want kids? Do you want kids? Are you still spinning or in a bottom bitch/main plate situation? Are we getting perks from her that most girls don't have? She into threesomes, etc?

There's just to many variables to answer that. You and you alone should know what to do. And if you don't then you have no business trying an LTR. Stick to plating and get your N count high enough till you know you can handle it and have a spine.

My golden line of handling girls was somewhere around N15-20. It's different for everyone but by that many bangs I knew what I wanted and didn't want in a girl and I had the experience to handle more than plating. Still not doing an LTR but each to his own.

1 upvotesJohnny_Lawless_Esq3 years ago

Well, by that time, the options are different. As he said, you're emotionally invested yourself, so that means that you're going to have to make a choice. Do you want to keep her around, or no? If not, well, that's pretty simple, if trying.

If you do, you're going to have to compromise to some degree. Just don't compromise on the things that made you attractive to her to begin with, because if you do that, you're doomed.

1 upvotesLazyMagus3 years ago

Have you made the mistake of caving in to their demand for exclusivity in your initial years?

6 upvotesseattleron [OP]3 years ago

In my beta years I was the one pushing it. At the start of my RP years telling girls I didn't want a gf really helped me. It was one of the things I made myself do because I was trying to learn that a woman should not be the center of my life. Plus, as soon as you tell a woman that they want you 10x more.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

So can you give a rough estimate on how many times this will work on a single girl? How long until they catch on that you know how to play them?

15 upvotespsychyness3 years ago

It'll go on indefinitely. She might get tired enough that she settles down with some beta and tells you you can't be together anymore. And then they'll get in a fight and she'll be begging to come fuck you. Or they'll break up and she'll be begging to come fuck you. Or... she'll be happily dating him and be begging to come fuck you.

Doesn't matter, usually they'll stay on the hook until you end it.

3 upvotesLazyMagus3 years ago

It until they find a man better than you?

6 upvotesalways-be-closing3 years ago

How long until they catch on that you know how to play them?

Shorter than the amount of time it takes to find another, I guarantee you.

1 upvotesonlyjedileft3 years ago

IMO, don't look at TRP as a set of guidelines and rules, but as a set of principles and examples. It's a game you're playing in your own head for the most part.

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2 upvotesbornredd3 years ago

What the hell man. Have you been into the city? I was there awhile back and the place was swarming with cute girls.

Go to any bar in Capitol Hill. Hit up the fish market. There are women everywhere.

9 upvotesRP153 years ago

You hit the nail on the head. I go with: Cool, how long until your uber gets here?

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Don't let the door bruise that cute little ass on the way out.

9 upvotesAdolf_ghandi3 years ago

Did you just bang her in those 8 weeks or did you reward good behaviour by going out together? I am curious how to properly approach this.

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1 upvotesdking1683 years ago

What happens if she walks out on you or vice versa? Do you have to give the PS4 back LOL?

7 upvotesitsawomensworld3 years ago

lol the beta who gives her everything you get sex once on your anniversary once on your birthday. The dude who is 100% asshole gets sex 3 times in a night.

Do women not see that they constantly reward bad behavior?

If women want men to be beta than bang us for being beta. It's so fucking simple.

But as I said women will never ever say they are the problem. The only time they admit they are not perfect is when they opened their legs to soon. Their only advice to women ever is be even more stingy with sex. Which creates even more betas which makes them want to have sex even less.

I've never seen in counseling the advice of the counselor is hey maybe bang your husband more often and fake it til you make it.

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lol the beta who gives her everything you get sex once on your anniversary once on your birthday. The dude who is 100% asshole gets sex 3 times.

Do women not see that they constantly reward bad behavior?

If women want men to be beta than bang us for being beta. It's so fucking simple.

But as I said women will never ever say they are the problem. The only time they admit they are not perfect is when they opened their legs to soon. Their only advice to women ever is be even more stingy with sex. Which creates even more betas which makes them want to have sex even less.

And then we hit the 80/20 rule again, birthrates plummet, and society as we know it collapses and is replaced with barbarians who don't give a shit about women.

All of this is usually helped along by stupid leaders making retarded decisions.

Technology won't make the fall of western society exactly like rome, but the ultimate causes will be extremely similar.

11 upvotesgonorealover3 years ago

You did great .

Now here's the bad news : she is not going to let this end. Girls who uses terms like " worthless POS" , " virgin", "gay" , "man-child" are strictly feminists and die-hard manipulators . These girls are constantly " competing" with men to prove themselves to be equal to men. She will ask you " am I just a meat sack to you ? " or something similar like this. Tell her " yes , just like I am a salami to you " . Fuck women who thinks that way. They think they are being used but they are willingly using men as well . These are feminist women who are widely hated by the world. " I am being used by but i am allowed to use men because vagina and womb bla bla bla ". Fuck these cunts and their feminist bullshit . Do not give these girls a pass. They are not curable .

Women are all children but these type of whores are fucking incurable no matter what you do. They will NOT LET THIS GO ! She will bring this type of test back !

If she stops her chores and favors , next this bitch and move to your next target.

1 upvotesdr_warlock3 years ago

Vaginas have this tumor attached to them, this thing called woman.

6 upvotesVanityKings3 years ago

Anyone else see how OPs reaction to her tantrum is comparable to the way a father punishes his child and doesn't give her what she wants?
I really do think women want a man who puts them in their place like their fathers did when she was younger, only she is screwing this one and finds him attractive

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1 upvoteszenhoodman3 years ago

Can you private message me this subreddit?

6 upvotesCeruleanDawn3 years ago

Very interesting.

Whenever I read these threads, I always wonder what this girl looks like. The way RP indicates that women are constantly trying to date up and being orbited, I'd think that they would be jumping plates a lot more if they had the options

6 upvotesHobKing3 years ago

Is it worth it? All that trouble of putting up with her bullshit and standing strong in the face of shit tests for some sex?

If it were life changing sex, that's one thing, but clearly with this dynamic you're not fucking someone you emotionally are on the same page as or can respect mentally. How much better is her pussy than your hand? Is it worth the trouble when you could be totally focused on yourself otherwise?

8 upvotesseattleron [OP]3 years ago

It's much better than my hand, and I know how to handle her shit, I literally had to do almost nothing except have a short conversation then answer the door when she came back. It's not like I built her a house.

4 upvotesFrigzy3 years ago

Omg. You didn't build her a house?

Worthless POS..

4 upvotesdr_warlock3 years ago

It's not like I built her a house.

The beta carpenter. He builds pedestals too.

5 upvotesEssexal3 years ago

The 'What are we?' : 'I'm hungry' line, I'm stealing that one.

5 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

LMAO, this is op

http://imgur.com/YfJFbhN

1 upvotesseattleron [OP]3 years ago

Hahaha! Channel your inner Kobe. The face looks about right.

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

I made this like 10 minutes ago, couldnt stop laughing.

8 upvotesRedKnight19903 years ago

Good man. She acted a child having a tantrum, and you took the appropriate route.

16 upvotesnaMlliPdeR3 years ago

You have to be careful with this one man (if you care at all for keeping her as a plate).

There's a difference between shit test and comfort test.

Her asking you "what are we", etc. was a comfort test. You were too good for her, she probably felt insecure that you might end it, so she wanted to feel better about herself, hense bringing up the topic.

If you want to keep her a plate, badly handled. Sure, it can work. But a much better answer would be something like "We're friends who have great sex", pull her up to your lap, maybe spank her, etc. Show her she at least has some value. Ignoring her question just makes her even more insecure.

Now, after that, and he whole "see other people", that's a shit test, through and through. Well handled.

But it's important to give them a little confidence boost or at least a pat on the back when they become insecure, otherwise they end up unhappy, and it can lead to the FWB deal becoming not so great.

Still, your handling of the shit test that came after probably produced so many "omg i fucked up" tingles that it fixed everything.

6 upvotesRavingsmads3 years ago

I disagree, Though what you said might apply positively to some girls, I believe that if you deprive them of said appreciation most will take another route and try harder to prove themselves to you, only do what you mentioned after A good sex/blowjob/meal...etc so they unknowingly connect the dots.

6 upvotespmmedenver3 years ago

If they try everything to prove themselves to you, and get absolutely nothing back in return, they're going to split for good. This is cat string theory, the string has to be just barely out of their reach: not too far, not too close. Its a delicate balance.

6 upvotesLazyMagus3 years ago

Some asshole a few days back on TRP, made fun of us regular newbies for not knowing such similar things about dealing with women intuitively and having to rely on other men to tell us what to do.

But the thing is, it's the knowledge and experience of other successful men that helps and guides us in world that is showering us with examples of supplicating to women and fucking ourselves over in the process.

So many of us men would be lost souls without The Red Pill subreddit.

8 upvotesseattleron [OP]3 years ago

I was in your shoes once not all that long ago. It's tough at first because it's not natural, it's not how you were raised and it's not what society tells you.

Fuck the haters. You ever have any questions, feel free to ask.

3 upvotesOmnisovereign3 years ago

Because people can learn everything through intuition... Where would we make mistakes?

3 upvotesanooblol3 years ago

What are we?

-Well I'm hungry.

Seriously?

-Yeah I'm fucking starving... About to make a sandwich.

I died laughing. You sir... Are a comic.

3 upvotes_NWA3 years ago

Her: Pay attention to me!

Me: Are you going to do a magic trick? (smirk)

Her: You're a real asshole sometimes you know that?

Me: Yes.

She just blurts it out.

Her: What are we?

Me: (I do not flinch, still staring at my computer) I'm hungry, not sure about you?

I've been lurking in TRP for a while and whilst i understand frame, for some reason this part really put it into context for me in relation to my past experiences and how to behave in these situations in the future.

thank you.

1 upvotesseattleron [OP]3 years ago

YW. Frame just means you do not let them manipulate you with their emotions, i.e. Get into a screaming match when they're freaking out. You ignore obvious troll jobs of things she says just to shock you (I think I'm pregnant - she would show you a positive stuck if she really thought she was. No response is the best response), and you'd deflect questions that are obvious tests (you're the biggest asshole I ever met, I'm going out with Chad, he's been messaging me every day on Facebook anyway - you: cool, you guys should try the new Chinese place, food is excellent).

Frame means no matter what she tries to do to get a rise out of you, you do not reward her efforts. If you do, you lose.

3 upvotesIGoYouStayTwoAutumns3 years ago

The first LTR conversation: always right at the 2-month mark. You can set your watch to it.

2 upvotesseattleron [OP]3 years ago

It's weird how they all have the same clock.

3 upvotesprf_q3 years ago

my stomach is full and balls are empty every single time she comes to my apartment.

omg my sides, we have a winner.

2 upvotesLuckyluke233 years ago

great post man!

it feels to me like she just needed an outlet for her feelings she had at the time. once she got all that shit out of her system. she went back to being " normal" instead of " emotional"

3 upvotesseattleron [OP]3 years ago

Yes, which is really all most women want, is to do something with their feelings. The trick is, 99% of the time they don't want you to respond to them. They're more attracted to you if you don't. Just let them freak out, feel better, and move on. Don't show her she can manipulate you. That will repulse her, because what kind of man are you if I can manipulate you but I can't even open up a jar of pickles?

2 upvotesnewmeforever3 years ago

way to maintain frame man.

You seem like a true man - respect.

2 upvotesSu-Wu_Red3 years ago

Crazy. I just had this argument with my plate 2 days ago. She eve used the "you don't care" words exactly and talked about how she gets much more attention on the streets. I listed out all the things I do for her, reminded her that I have never lied about not wanting to be in a relationship, and that if she wanted she could move on. She was quiet for a day and then begged to come spend the night. Amazing how often this happens.

2 upvotesn8dawwg3 years ago

Fantastic post. I took the pill way to late in life, but it's posts like these that I will share with my son to prevent him from failing shit tests like this when he is grown.

2 upvotesPantsonFire12343 years ago

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You sir are on fire. Saying all the funny shit, treating her all the right ways, living life like a man should.

We can only hope that one day the majority of men pick up on the uncaring asshole game and eternally silence these Feminists and equality bitchers. Like you said- everyone's happier this way.

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4 upvotesfeminazi_oppresor3 years ago

She doesn't love you, she loves the way you make her feel

3 upvotesseattleron [OP]3 years ago

Yeah, that's basically what I said.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

everyone's happier this way

Seeing a girl truly happy when you treat her like a child is a real eye opener.

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Maybe you should start having sex with grownups.

3 upvotesrp_divorced3 years ago

You're suggesting he only has sex with men?

0 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Sorry buddy, someone already made that joke.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Are you dating my crazy ex?

1 upvotesPissedPajamas3 years ago

I sense some Sterling Archer in your tone. You've got a solid game dude, keep killing it

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1 upvotesmehdreamer3 years ago

and will feel an insatiable desire for you and your masculinity. 99% of guys crack under these situations and seeing a guy who

Are you good looking brah? Are you above 7?

1 upvotesetherealembryo3 years ago

Cant let them get abusive. Sounds like my girl. The hail marys still sting a bit though.

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1 upvotesetherealembryo3 years ago

Yeah its quite funny when they think im like the other guys! Hahha youre so right.

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1 upvotesseattleron [OP]3 years ago

It will come naturally after a while. Just have to know how to respond to certain situations.

1 upvotesAll__fun3 years ago

For the next 2 hours I get floods of long texts. From anger, to sadness, to being called a "worthless" POS. I lol'd at that one. I'm a pretty productive SOB, so she is really grasping at straws now. I do not respond to any of them.

How do you feel about this level of disrespect though?

If this is her first blow up, what are the consequences of another argument ?

1 upvotesazrise3 years ago

Shouldn't take it to heart IMO. Just a frustration rant given the realization that she can't control him.

1 upvotesseattleron [OP]3 years ago

How do you feel about this level of disrespect though?

I pay no attention, because it's not genuine. If I feel disrespected she wins. She wants to get a rise out of me, I do not reward it and it makes it worse for her.

No response is the best thing you can do. No facial expressions, no words, no body language. Continue doing what you're doing.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Emotional outbursts happen man. You do have to understand with women, that the hormones they have to deal with on a daily basis are really 10x more intense than ours.

Treat them like a child. Children have emotional outbursts all the time. This doesn't mean they are a bad child, it's just in their nature.

1 upvotesR1fle3 years ago

I got these all the time with my last plate, who I even considered LTR'ing. It was these texts that made me finally just stop contact with her.

I didn't like the disrespect either. The whole ultimatum of seeing her once a week or she throws a hissy fit. It had been going on for months. The time I came over to drop her shit off, she just latched onto me. She would not let me leave without fucking her. I even told her this is essentially rape if she doesn't let go. Had the most ridiculous sex ever that night. Two weeks later, drama texts ensue. I finally just blocked her.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

so much of this behavior works in MRP as well.

1 upvotesgarlicextract3 years ago

She's not much happier, she just acts happier around you because you showed your hand that you're willing to move on

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Women are so annoying sometimes. I hate dealing with these shit-test rants. I just turn my phone off and wait 24 hours.

1 upvotesJani11573 years ago

How much time do you give before you upgrade plates to LTR's? And do you set any ground rules or anything before you get into one

1 upvotesseattleron [OP]3 years ago

Just when I feel out whether or not she is someone I am compatible with and I can trust.

Ground rules are set when we're just seeing each other. I don't have to say anything because she already knows just from spending time with me.

1 upvotesXenocynic3 years ago

Interestingly as I was reading this I was thinking how boring and unrealistic these field reports have become as they're always the same. They follow the same pattern, include the same dialogue, and have the same resolution. For everybody here, your fantasies are getting stale and you need some fresh ideas.

4 upvotesrp_divorced3 years ago

Or maybe you're seeing that women are predictable and all of them use the same tactics to try to get what they want.

3 upvotesgraffix133 years ago

Right. Because if something follows a pattern and the same solution fixes the problem, it MUST be false, right?

2 upvotesScaryBacon3 years ago

I think once you peel away the mystery you realize its all very basic and as a result things can only happen so many ways.

-1 upvotesZchavago3 years ago

I was kind of believing your story until "we banged three times, and i went to sleep".

4 upvotesseattleron [OP]3 years ago

Yeah cause guys in their late 20's never bang out college aged girls 3 times in one night.

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To be fair, I usually get some sleep in between sessions :P

4 upvoteskellykebab3 years ago

How is that in any way unbelievable?

1 upvotesFatGirlsInPartyHats3 years ago

I cringed at "go make me a sandwich". Just reeks of fantasy.

9 upvotesjameygates3 years ago

Except it doesn't say that anywhere in the story....

-1 upvotesFatGirlsInPartyHats3 years ago

Yep you're right. I totally misread that.

0 upvotesPopeman793 years ago

Yeah I was scrolling the comments to see if anybody called bullshit. I called bullshit way before the banging three times:

I am in the middle of doing some work on my side business on my computer

Mm yeah it's like the perfect RP fantasy and obviously THIS is what you intently do while your plate just arrived.

Her: Annoyed sigh.

Me: No response.

Her: Pay attention to me!

Most realistic dialogue ever written.

Her: I hate you! You're so mean to me! You know, maybe we should stop seeing each other. Another guy has been asking me out, maybe I should let him!

Yeah, again some very credible dialogue. Probably she said something similar to that, but please then make a disclaimer. Otherwise it's just very bad written fiction.

2 upvotesseattleron [OP]3 years ago

Of course it's not verbatim, I didn't have a recorder.

And not sure about you, but I don't jump out of my seat when a girl comes over. I had a few things to finish up when she got there and was trying to get them done.

1 upvotesPopeman793 years ago

Well, thanks for addressing my doubts. Maybe it's all true, but the way it is presented it looks doubtful. I understand why a bloopie would read that and say, rightfully, that it reads like a redpill fantasy. I don't know what else to say than to be more careful about the writing. If it's all true, no need to write in clichés.

Apart from that, if it's true then nice holding frame mate.

1 upvotesIl1283 years ago

You really should just end things with her at this point. She's not going to let it go.

There are plenty more women who would love to be plated by you.

3 upvotesseattleron [OP]3 years ago

True, but with most of them this is gonna come up at some point.

2 upvotesIl1283 years ago

Older women pretty much understand how it is and is going to be. It doesn't come up. When it does. I'm out. I don't play any games.

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1 upvotesIl1283 years ago

Being 50 I get benefit from plating older women. For example, they've been used to the point that being plated is a normal thing for them. And there are plates like this: http://mobi.match.com/profile/N2ZaTUwvUDJTdzFUcEFrbDE3SDdSZz09

2 upvotesrp_divorced3 years ago

I wish this was true. They start out like this, but when you hit the 5-6 month mark they all freak the fuck out saying "what is this? I'm getting older and don't have time for games? I need to know you're committed." and then they make up for it by being crazy times 10 if you hold frame and don't give them what they want.

0 upvotesthop893 years ago

Why was she shit testing you in the first place? I never get these absurd or nuclear shit tests. So you have to ask your self: why is she testing your manhood in the first place?

Yeah, you did well. But before that, too? For me the function of a shit teest is the validation of your manly frame. If you display a solid frame through and through, you don't get such an idiotic talk from a woman - in my experience.

(Maybe some actions of a woman are truly contingent - I don't know. Maybe plates or FWB have a higher shit test ratio - maybe the testing changes from shit tests to comfort tests in LTRs - I don't know.)

0 upvotesseattleron [OP]3 years ago

Why was she shit testing you in the first place?

Because she the normal cute girl in her early 20's who gets constant validation all day every day from social media and what not. Offers to take her places, buy her tings, etc. I do not do that, and she does not know how to handle it, so she does the only thing she knows how to do and gets emotional.

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-1 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Men shouldnt get into exclusive commitments period.

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1 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Thats the only exception imo.





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