If women think you are creepy then it is your fault

Troy016 · 2020-05-26T20:57:52+00:00

Bruh . What

whichbladeN · 2020-05-26T20:57:58+00:00

Guys just don't think it's fair that the halo effect allows attractive men to get away with things that would be considered creepy if they were less attractive.

Generally people only consider you creepy if they fear you or are disgusted by you. And people have a lot higher tolerance for anyone who is good looking.

ElectricalStatement7 · 2020-05-27T04:01:05+00:00

Don’t be ridiculous. Women call guys creeps for the most pathetic of reasons these days and more to point, how is it a guys fault someone else decided to be insultingly awful when they were nothing but kind? Women who go around calling guys she doesn’t find attractive creeps are just assholes. The only fault that lies with the guy (assuming he hasn’t been weird or something) is that he tried too hard when it was clear she wasn’t interested. That hardly justifies treating them like shit.

DangZagnut · 2020-05-26T21:05:43+00:00

Sounds like a delicious recipe for a simp reduction to a cuck torte.

Women think you're creepy based on nothing that has to do with you. Maybe you remind her of an ex. Maybe she just can't handle thinking she's so low on the SMV scale that an ugly guy might be looking at her from across the room or trying to talk to her.

Maybe she's a gold digging whore who doesn't see any wealth markers on him. Or maybe she just says "creepy" because she's a sadistic bitch like women love to be when they're young and entitled because they can. They masturbate to it.

Or maybe she's just had 20 guys bother her in the last 20 minutes and yet another guy flirting with her is just creepy.

Luckily, time heals all wounds, and the poor wahmyn won't have to deal with it much longer because soon no one will care about them. But until then, guys are creepy if they don't look rich enough or handsome enough to validate her delusion of her SMV.

Creepy. As if it's the guys fault.

I have an idea, leave women alone. They don't want to talk to you anyway, and if they wanted to fuck you, they'd let you know.

Ignore women; acquire currency. Stop lusting after thots that want nothing to do with you. Better yourself exclusively for you and stop chasing pussy, they're all going to disappoint you in the end unless you really get your head up there and lick to worship the goddess.

Sure, she'll take all your shit, but at least you won't be "creepy".

Up next, women calling anyone that doesn't worship pussy an "incel".

TheWhispersOfSpiders · 2020-05-26T23:50:59+00:00

"Creep" is a sexist remark invented to silence men.

801735 · 2020-05-26T21:04:08+00:00

Only men are considered creepy.

You're wrong. There are lots of chicks who are creepy, men just don't call them that to their face.

poppy_blu · 2020-05-26T21:33:23+00:00

Let me play devils advocate.

My husband is black. There is nothing even remotely menacing about him. He’s a big teddy bear, polite, well spoken, kind eyes, warmest smile you’ll ever see, doesn’t even jay walk. etc. White people, women and cops in particular, too often react with discomfort or fear based on his skin color. That’s not his fault. And before anyone tells me it’s “justified cuz crime rates,” how is it justified to judge someone based on the actions of others? How is that his fault? You don’t like incels being judged by the murderers, correct?

Reacting to creepy behavior is one thing. Labeling someone a creep just because you feel like slapping a label on them isn’t always justified.

classicslayer · 2020-05-26T21:36:33+00:00

Creep is just a label women use for any guy they dont like.

Workaholiconew · 2020-05-26T23:06:31+00:00

Well, yes, it is their fault.

The same way many consider some women I shall not name to be quite.... lets say... obnouxious... is all their fault too.

But the thing is, being 'creepy' is not a danger to anyone, just a proof of social incapability, it is a matter of lack of knowledge or skill, and should be handled not different to a foreigner breaking etiquette by lack of knowledge or skill on it. because, in the end... It is the same thing.

Being... well... obnouxious, like in the aforementioned group I shall not name, however, is a behavior with the clear intention of messing up with other people's days, not a mistake by some part, but a clear and pure disrespect with another human being....these women can and should be treated to the same level of crass they attack others people. And feel all the weight of the law where it is applicable.

TheBookOfSeil · 2020-05-27T02:00:09+00:00

Women think that some men are creepy by default. If they have a problem with it, then that's their problem, and really, it's their fault. Women are more neurotic than men, and are more likely to have irrational fears of strangers. It's not those peoples' faults that women are this way. It's just women's nature to be more afraid of other people.

2020-05-27T04:58:43+00:00

Only men are considered creepy because women’s standards are delusional, childish and embarrassing, and only men make any effort where approaching/asking for dates is concerned.

Women do absolutely nothing but shame men for not approaching them (“I want a real man”) and then shame them for approaching while having the hide, the absolute gall, to not resemble a professional fitness model (“He was soooooooo creepy”).

Basically, women ruin dating like they ruin everything else.

Can you believe the US women’s soccer team want pay parity with the men even though they were soundly beaten by an under-15 boys side? It is to lol. Those teenagers should have pay parity first.

darksoldierk · 2020-05-27T01:08:52+00:00

> Only men are considered creepy.

Actually, there is a very large portion of the female gender that is very very creepy. It's just, men don't mention it because men don't feel irrational fear towards them.

> And if you look untidy then you look even more creepy.

So, you went from :

> Being creepy does not have to do with appearance unless you don't take care of yourself and stink

To, "untidy". Well, that's a drastic difference. There's a significant difference between someone who showers every day, wears clean clothes that maybe don't match, has a trimmed beard, but doesn't bother gelling or doing anything with his hair, and a slob who showers once a week, wears ripped jeans, a wife-beater, smells like shit, and looks like he hasn't brushed his teeth in months.

You basically contradicted yourself. Please elaborate or clarify.

Basically, what you want is, someone who commands respect and emanates confidence, but at the same time, you want them to be "mindful of women's space". In order to be confident, you have to believe that what you are doing, where you are standing, what you are saying and how you are behaving are not only okay, but are wanted by the person you are interacting with. You have to believe it, whether that's true or not. That's what confidence is. Confidence isn't respect, it isn't sincerity, it isn't honesty, and it isn't truth. It's an image, one that is either supported by knowledge or belief. I know this because. If you show that you are not in control of the interaction then you are not showing confidence. If I come up to a woman, and I can see my distance to her is uncomfortable to her from her body language, so I take a step back, it completely destroys any image of confidence that I created by coming up to her. It shows that I am not in control, that she is in control. Ultimately, THAT is contradictory to what you are saying. If you are approaching and you "respect her space" ie. "show her she's in control", then you are showing a lack of self esteem and a lack of confidence.

It's like, if a salesman comes up to you and tries to sell you, gee, I don't know, a lawn mower. He's going to pretend like he is your best friend. He's going to shake your hand, he's going to lead the conversation, he's going to maybe put his hand on your back and nudge you towards the lawn mower, encouraging you to look at parts he wants you to look at, or encouraging you to try it. If a salesman comes up to you, stays a foot a way from you and says "excuse me ma'am, would you like to try this lawn mower", you are going to simply brush him off. Because he hasn't given you any perception of confidence, he's shown you that YOU are in control, not him.

See, the problem is, continuing with the sales concept, women think that men should sell their quality. Ie. They should "just be themselves", "respect women's" and blah blah blah, and if what he has is something she wants, she will give him a chance. The issue is, men understand that men (and women for that matter) aren't all that different from each other. Men and women are basically interchangeable especially during the approach. That's why men don't sit there flaunting their "quality" like women do, because no matter how high quality they may be (objectively speaking), there are at least 3 other guys in the room who match them in that quality. The only way sell a product that is identical to your competitor's product is through the sales approach. Me and 3 other guys in the room may be funny, we can all go up to a woman, stand a foot away, and make her laugh, but that doesn't make any man stand out. What does make him stand out is being interactive. Being creative, and memorable. We remember things and people more when our interactions with them use more of our senses. I can't tell you how many women I've seen and spoken with, yet the women I remember most are the women that appealed to more of my senses. I'll always remember the woman that, while I was walking by the dance floor to talk to a friend at a wedding, grabbed my arm and pulled me to dance with her. Not only did I see her, and hear her (by talking to her after), but there was the sense of touch, when the slow song came on, and we slow danced, I could smell her perfume, I could feel her arm around my neck, I could see her. Even though I wasn't attracted to her, I remembered her.

> Approaching does not mean you lose your self-respect. Approaching is that you find a person attractive and want to know more about them before you decide they are actually worth having around.

The approach is men putting themselves in a vulnerable position in front of a complete stranger. It is giving up a portion of your self-respect. You are intentionally putting yourself in a position of disadvantage and hoping that the other person will level the playing field by putting themselves in an equally disadvantaged position. When you approach, you revealed something about yourself, and when you get rejected, you got slapped in the face for it. When I approach, the woman knows I find her attractive, that puts me in a disadvantage. It puts me in a "revealed my hand" position. To put yourself at a disadvantage, to make yourself dependent on others, and to give away power (through knowledge) to someone else is a surrender of self respect.

This is why the thought is "who the fuck do you think you are".

> The fact that you approach a woman doesn't mean you owe her something. In general people are very conceited and there is no need to make someone else feel superior. It has become some sort of competition between women and men about who is superior in the dating scene.

And yet, women behave in as if men do owe them things for approaching. Think about who pays for the first date, and how women justify it. "the person doing the asking should pay" is a very common phrase that women say. Even you. Like you said, you want men to "respect women's space". I mean, short of raping her or sexually harassing her, you don't owe her respect of any sort. You owe her tolerance, which is exactly what she owes you.

blackvaginafinderno9 · 2020-05-27T01:51:21+00:00

The way for me not be "creepy" is to not to deal with women who think I'm creepy. Pretty simple.

Frankly I'd rather get porn and jack off than interact with annoying women who don't know me but call me creepy.

jumblesandtumbles · 2020-05-27T02:59:01+00:00

I read somewhere that creepiness is about trying to figure out if something is a threat or not. Or in this case, someone. And according to some other articles I've read, confidence puts people at ease. So it makes sense that someone confident in social situations will not come across as creepy as often as someone unconfident in social situations and who may not be as well versed in social norms and cues. Someone who stands too close or doesn't pick up cues that the other person is trying to leave the conversation, for example.

It would also make sense in why women are labled less often as creepy (my guy friends usually call girls that exhibit traits I might consider creepy in a guy crazy) because if creepy implies a potential threat, I'd argue a lot less men consider women a physical threat than women do men (no, I'm not trying to say all men are threats).

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skystar86 · 2020-05-27T00:05:17+00:00

Feelings are subjective though so it could be either person's fault.

80_20 · 2020-05-27T00:33:50+00:00

This has been disproven so many times that SNL did a sketch about it. 15 years ago.

https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/tv-funhouse-sexual-harassment-and-you/2751966

Ordinate1 · 2020-05-27T12:39:46+00:00

"Creepy" is woman-speak for, "I do not consider you worthy to so much as look at me, and so I am going to publicly shame you for not knowing that just by looking at me."

Title	If women think you are creepy then it is your fault
Author	angry_ogunsoto
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Date	May 26, 2020 8:54 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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