I wanted a sexist diagram like the feminists have...

Chheriojoe17 · 2019-01-29T03:38:29+00:00

What if my penis was cut off during a birth accident(asking for a friend, dont look into it)

HeForeverBleeds · 2019-01-29T04:09:39+00:00

Very true, a woman has no right to dictate how a man must behave to be masculine. Likewise what individual men think masculinity is differs, and a man should not expect every other man to fit his personal idea of masculinity

E.g. it's from both women and men that I hear things like "a real man never hits back against a woman", "a real man always picks up the checks", "a real man is always willing to sacrifice his life for a woman", "he should just shut up and take [some kind of abuse or injustice] like a man", etc.

There are some men as well as women who will try to shame men who don't play some subservient, gynocentric role. Because to them, that's how a man should be

pandalovexxx · 2019-01-29T05:34:02+00:00

Does this work both ways? If men strictly define masculinity then women strictly define femininity, so then only men can define what toxic masculinity consists of, so only women can define toxic femininity?

ChaosOpen · 2019-01-29T05:18:29+00:00

Ever notice women don't seem to define bullying the same way as men do. According to women it's a long and protracted campaign of unending harassment and it tends to be motivated by a variety of factors that men wouldn't normally think about. (being too pretty or being fat) However, I never saw that type of bullying among guys. I was fat in high school and I was certainly not very popular, however nobody really bothered me unless I was being annoying. One of my few friends was also a bit of an outcast and had a cleft pallet, so since he looked weird people tended to avoid him, but they never really messed with him like you hear about when women define bullying.

I have a theory that women and men deal with confrontation very differently, guys are pretty hot and cold, with guys there is a line, you cross that line and he's gonna start swinging. However, after you slug it out it's possible to make up the next day depending on what started the fight. Women seem to have conflicts that last for months, even years, and involve harassment and any manner of devious tactics.

2019-01-29T14:18:43+00:00

I don't think I agree with this mentality. I think everyone should be able to discuss issues regardless of gender.

TheSheepGod_ · 2019-01-29T04:01:35+00:00

I consider a transgender-now-man a man

Bye-Bye-My-Ai · 2019-01-29T07:43:07+00:00

At first I thought this was an anti-trans poster lol I'm trans, MtF (male to female) and let me tell you, high school was a nightmare as a guy. Life just got easier as I transitioned..

Uintahwolf · 2019-01-29T13:28:46+00:00

Honestly feminists are OBSESSED with masculinity and men in general. Like not even men are interested in that anymore, and like some kind of publication about "how to be a real man" just can't be unironic since about 15 years ago or more.

Seriously feminists are like le wrong generation kids when it comes to politics. Boy I sure wish I was in the 50s and 60s when that shit was actually new and worth doing. Now it's a safe as hell completely unengaging topic that takes no real effort or risk.

But mainly give us a fucking rest already. We had to suffer through the metrosexual bullshit of the 2000s, like the idea that a man would at all care about his appearance or could possibly have other interests than fast cars and sex is like completely foreign to some people, or they pretend men are like that? Or something? Like this is all farcical bullshit.

But mainly, take a deep breath and then fuck off and never talk about masculinity again please. It's embarrassing.

AKnightAlone · 2019-01-29T22:26:06+00:00

Men aren't allowed to define psychosexually objectifying/stereotyping concepts. We can define everything in the dictionary, build all the buildings that hold all those dictionaries, and even head the society that gives us this "women and children first" foundation, but the second we make a sex-related statement that's positive about men or negative about women, we're objectifying and disturbing monsters.

VioletteToussaint · 2019-01-29T11:49:17+00:00

To be honest I don't think that you need to be a [insert category] to define what a [insert category] is.

Definitions of a category shouldn't be dependent on the appartenance to this particular category.

On the other hand, who can give a precise and unambiguous definition of "feminity" and "masculinity"? Gender is a very fucked up and vague concept IMO.

RacelessSexlessName · 2019-01-29T02:52:59+00:00

Because they think they can define what being a man is and decide what to do with "men" as a generalized whole group, but it's the end of the world if a man defines or decides anything about a woman.

Edit: I gotta say, the vote bouncing on this comment calling out hypocrisy is hilarious. Am I hitting a little close to home with my satire and commentary?

nddragoon · 2019-01-29T16:42:51+00:00

Wait did you add the "were you born a man" thing to satirize TERFs?

MusicalGold · 2019-01-29T17:46:40+00:00

Can doctors surgically give a woman a working cock? Asking for a friend.

Lion_amongst_gods · 2019-01-29T09:28:01+00:00

Now, who said this sub was dark and gloomy? 😁

porraSV · 2019-01-29T08:25:30+00:00

But do feminists have shit like this?

Vman2 · 2019-01-29T11:29:59+00:00

I've always found it hilliarious that a man hating feminist with daddy issues thinks she can tell a man anything at all about masculinity or what a real man would do. They wouldn't know what it takes to be a decent empathetic human being.

2019-01-29T06:33:33+00:00

Exactly my sentiment. Want to have a talk on masculinity and toxic masculinity? I'm game. But if you're a woman, fuck off. I do not need your opinion.

chambertlo · 2019-01-29T05:39:58+00:00

Basically.

PoliticalAnimal384 · 2019-01-29T15:33:30+00:00

This should really only be one question.

Took a crack at it here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/al14ec/simplified_an_idea_i_saw_earlier_on_here_who/?st=JRHX8BR1&sh=04dc77de

typhonblue · 2019-01-29T17:01:10+00:00

Is that really sexist tho?

TatsuFluff · 2019-01-29T17:21:39+00:00

what about the trans freinds

Fuckler_boi · 2019-01-29T17:52:56+00:00

I disagree with this. I think that concepts like masculinity are defined by the general behaviour of a culture or society, and do not get to be ‘chosen’. Otherwise, the word carries no weight because everyone defines it differently. The thought process depicted by this post is also what’s wrong with the whole ‘gender vs sex’ argument.

Seagram1 · 2019-01-29T19:39:20+00:00

This is where the mens movement should start, a statement of qualification. If you realise that there are women doctors in America weighing in on how a man should feel about being circumcised. Making jokes about it also works in the misandrists favour. Enough with the jokes. Stand firm and tall against all forms and sources that try to define you without asking your input. Weather it be some spazzy housewife, a triggered lunatic, or a doctor. If you aint got a penis you dont get a fucking opinion.

AttackOnTapTitan · 2019-01-29T19:48:24+00:00

What diagram are you taking inspiration from? I cant find a link anywhere and google isnt helping

Uintahwolf · 2019-01-29T20:20:52+00:00

What if we all just moved on from the terms "masculinity" and "femininity" , and just let people live how they want ? I think its fucked that every time I go to a bar and order a Moscow mule or long island , theres ALWAYS some dude or one of the bartenders who's like "oh cant handle a beer like a real man?" Or something like that . If I get a beer, and its anything other than name brand, I get called a hipster or people will joke that I'm gay.

Or if I dont know how to completely rebuild an engine , I'm not a real man.

Or if I dont like to watch sports, dont think I need to fight a dude for getting my girl to cheat on me , grab a coffee from Starbucks, get emotional during a movie or concert, then I'm a pussy A.K.A. not a real man.

Honestly , I've gotten more shit about what a "real man" is from my fellow men. Not saying theres not a ton of women out there who have this stupid concept of what a "man" is supposed to be, but I typically here this from men.

2019-02-05T12:06:05+00:00

We both desplay masculine and feminine traits. Though by that logic I get to define femininity as anything I want. So there is really no need for there to be two separate things since I can describe femininity as being strong and independent and you could potentially describe masculinity as kind and nurturing and we can't say anything to each other. Cool I'm down with this

AirplaneNote · 2019-01-29T16:06:04+00:00

I try not to intrude in this space, but I generally think of masculinity as a sense of courage and self confidence.

MeMyselfandBi · 2019-01-29T05:51:30+00:00

/r/gatekeeping at its finest.

Anterai · 2019-01-29T10:17:11+00:00

I think y'all should do less of this division crap. Let everyone have a conversation, instead of limiting it to just men.

Enraevting · 2019-01-29T14:33:02+00:00

How is this sexist?

Kor03d · 2019-01-29T07:03:02+00:00

Apparently using proper graphic redactor isn't masculine.

RacelessSexlessName · 2019-01-29T11:41:38+00:00

U should have put a testosterone count so the white knights and soy boys cant define the term

ProdigyBravo · 2019-01-29T11:17:00+00:00

Terrible graphic with a good message.

Title	I wanted a sexist diagram like the feminists have...
Author	RacelessSexlessName
Upvotes	2796
Comments	148
Date	January 29, 2019 2:51 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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