Even when I file for financial aid.

BigGreyAlpaca · 2018-07-02T23:38:55+00:00

Brings to mind the 'benefits' and penalties of signing up for selective service:

Let's count the benefits and penalties:

Registration is the Law Register to be Eligible for Benefits and Programs Linked to Registration —

A young man who fails to register with Selective Service may be ineligible for opportunities that may be important to his future. (Penalties +1) He must register to be eligible for federal student financial aid, state-funded student financial aid in many states, (Penalties +1) most federal employment (Penalties +1), some state employment (Penalties +1), security clearance for contractors (Penalties +1), job training under the Workforce Innovation and Opportunity Act (formerly known as the Workforce Investment Act) (Benefits +1), and U.S. citizenship for immigrant men (Penalties +1).

So far your penalties are:

Ineligibility for opportunities that may be important to his future.

Inability to get financial aid for school.

Inability to be federally employed.

Inability to be employed by the local government.

Unable to get security clearance as a contractor.

Unable to get U.S. citizen if you're an immigrant.

And your benefits are:

job training under the Workforce Innovation and Opportunity Act (formerly known as the Workforce Investment Act) (Note: That women, who face no penalties at all for their sex as they don't have to sign up get the training for free, doesn't stop them from complaining about it though)

But wait, there's more! Penalties! The benefits up until now were staggering, let's look at the penalties.

Penalties for Failing to Register

Failing to register or comply with the Military Selective Service Act is a felony punishable by a fine of up to $250,000 or a prison term of up to five years, or a combination of both.

Also, a person who knowingly counsels, aids, or abets another to fail to comply with the Act is subject to the same penalties. (Note: Compassion for men being enslaved because of their gender is STRICTLY prohibited, no feeding the animals).

If a man fails to register, or provides Selective Service with evidence that he is exempt from the registration requirement, after receiving Selective Service reminder and/or compliance mailings, his name is referred to the Department of Justice for possible investigation and prosecution for his failure to register as required by the Act.

The more immediate penalty is if a man fails to register before turning 26 years old, even if he is not tried or prosecuted, he may find that some doors are permanently closed.

Thankfully, we're done with the penalt-- oh wait, there's more:

NOTE: Some states have added additional penalties for those who fail to register. See STATE LEGISLATION.

From State Legislation

Maintaining a high compliance rate is of concern to officials because it means that any future draft instituted by Congress and the President in a national emergency would be fair and equitable.

Yes, of course, because if men die then nothing of value is lost. Men suffer, women profit -- total equality.

In an effort to ensure compliance with federal law among young men, many states and territories, and the District of Columbia, have enacted legislation which links Selective Service registration with the process of applying for a driver’s license, renewal, or state identification card. As a result of such legislation, in May 2002, the state of Delaware, which enacted driver’s license legislation in 2000, became the first state to reach nearly 100 percent registration compliance since Selective Service began compiling this data. In that same year, seven other states increased their compliance rates by 3 percent or more after enacting similar driver’s license legislation.

So you can also not get a driver's license if you dare not want your life taken.

Don't worry folks, nothing about this is 'unfair'!

Selective Service wants young men to register. It does not want them to be prosecuted or denied benefits. If a draft is ever needed, it must be as fair as possible, and that fairness depends on having as many eligible men as possible registered.* In the event of a draft, **for every man who fails to register, another man would be required to take his place in service to his country.

Remember folks, fairness hinges on as many Men as possible being sacrificed, if a man won't register then clearly other men must be punished, there's just no other genders to choose from.

Source: https://www.sss.gov/Registration/Why-Register/Benefits-and-Penalties

spitfitt · 2018-07-03T01:46:42+00:00

Just part of being a privileged male.

EricAllonde · 2018-07-03T02:23:40+00:00

What happens if just tick the female box because you identify as a woman on that particular day? Does that solve the problem?

Throwaway_Old_Guy · 2018-07-02T21:11:06+00:00

Rapists are only good for cannon fodder. Education is wasted on them. /s

ethos1983 · 2018-07-03T02:26:55+00:00

I'll give the National Organization of Women credit where it's due; they officially stated they were against the Draft back in the 80's. If there was gonna be a draft, it needed to be fair and equitable. Not just against one gender. Good on them. Seriously. That's a stance i can support. Equality.

That was almost 40 years ago. Aside from the occasional token "it should be fair!" articles written by an intern, what meaningful steps have they taken? Lobbying?

Any proof whatsoever that their commitment to "no draft, but if there must be one, let it be fair" is anything other than lip service?

slacktivist0 · 2018-07-03T00:30:31+00:00

Yeah but the National Organization for Women is lobbying the federal government HARD to have women included in the draft.

They had a weekend screening of G. I. Jane to gin up support. Even the dozen cats in attendance at the home of the director of "women's studies and other bullshit" were in agreement.

So they're getting to it.

/S

SOwED · 2018-07-03T06:59:47+00:00

Women should be required to be in the selective service if they want the right to be in the armed forces. I'd love to hear an argument to the contrary aside from males shouldn't be required to be in the selective service.

Rishx · 2018-07-03T04:14:52+00:00

Reading all these comments really make me glad I am not American.

TheMythof_Feminism · 2018-07-03T03:19:40+00:00

That's bullshit.

In my nation (Mexico), men that are 17 must apply for "military service" which is basically training one day every 2 weeks for a year... luckily I'm a deserter because fuck that.... women get the benefits allotted by completion of the military service just because 'vagina'.

I am a proud deserter (if that makes any sense).

staticsnake · 2018-07-03T19:13:04+00:00

I'm much more angry about the requirement to state your parents income regardless of their relationship with you. Screws so many people on financial aid.

er0h · 2018-07-03T06:59:46+00:00

I'm sorry what? Women don't register for service? why in the actual fuck is this allowed

broskiatwork · 2018-07-03T13:29:32+00:00

https://i.imgur.com/hNeuxFl.png

DarkDoesThings · 2018-07-02T22:37:41+00:00

What

hottama · 2018-07-03T06:19:46+00:00

EQUALITY.

nocivo · 2018-07-03T15:41:53+00:00

Was the same shit to vote and women still think was a privilege...

MichaelRahmani · 2018-07-03T01:36:21+00:00

Glad I saw this post rn. I almost signed up for financial aid but now I know its a trap by the government.

GunsRfuns · 2018-07-03T05:52:11+00:00

Just say you're a female its 2018 :)

One thing I think would be interesting is to see if there are more Male to female trans than there are female to male trans. I bet there are because I think a lot of people transition simply because they aren't liking life as a male and want the privilege that comes along with being female.

rjw223 · 2018-07-03T08:32:11+00:00

So I'm British... Can anyone explain what selective service is in a nutshell

averis1 · 2018-07-03T04:13:37+00:00

What is this horseshit? Is this real?

Could someone explain "Selective Service System" in layman's terms?

What was the purpose of implementing this? Well, what's in it for the gov't?

Ninagram · 2018-07-03T19:55:06+00:00

You have no idea the ugly battle I've started on Facebook because of your post, thanks a lot. Got me off to a real bad mood for today!

The__Tren__Train · 2018-07-02T21:27:48+00:00

praise kek

ImSanic · 2018-07-03T09:33:57+00:00

Just claim to identify as a female

Dragofireheart · 2018-07-03T10:58:46+00:00

Live in New York.

Change gender to female.

morajic · 2018-07-03T03:19:28+00:00

I'm very conservative and I don't understand why anyone would want women to be eligible for the draft.

kielly32 · 2018-07-03T06:22:06+00:00

TIL: Americans still are required to register for a draft that may never be used again. Although the way Trumps going y’all might need it. Heh.

MakTek5533 · 2018-07-03T18:29:20+00:00

Big deal it's not like we have a draft any more.

deedoedee · 2018-07-03T14:44:02+00:00

Easy, just identify as female that day.

Take your equality back, even if you have to steal it.

Title	Even when I file for financial aid.
Author	Otter_Actual
Upvotes	2498
Comments	158
Date	July 2, 2018 8:56 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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