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There are 4 times as many scholarships for females as there are for males.

Consilio_et_Animis

February 28, 2016
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Title There are 4 times as many scholarships for females as there are for males.
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Consilio_et_Animis

Upvotes 1722
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Date February 28, 2016 11:47 PM UTC
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[–]irrelevant_usernam3 247 points248 points249 points 10 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

This is especially interesting considering that women already outnumber men in college attendance. Most of the time, people can fall back on claims of "the patriarchy" to justify their preferential treatment of women. They say that women are inherently disadvantaged and need things like these scholarships to be on equal ground. But here, men are clearly at a disadvantage and people are still offering more help to women. And yet, I'm sure feminists will still find a way to justify this, blame men for all the problems, and continue to advocate against scholarships for men.

[–]TheRedThrowAwayPill 50 points51 points52 points 10 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Arguing about wont do you no good.

If you want universities to change - you have to sue them.

[–]CptFizz 19 points20 points21 points 10 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

And stop donating!

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[–]anecdotal 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Whenever they call me, I tell them I'll donate if I'm still using my degree after finishing off my student loans. I think they've stopped calling me.

[–]MotherFuckin-Oedipus 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I can't speak for public universities as I didn't attend one, but many of them here will use those donations for non-necessary operational expenses.

My alma mater spends donations on new sports facilities, subsidizing travel classes (which are outrageously priced even with that funding), and bringing in guest speakers. However, the bulk of their donation money (according to an old professor, 70% of it) goes towards financial aid / scholarships.

That makes a lot of graduates feel warm and fuzzy inside, but when it comes down to it, you're just paying someone else's tuition.

[–]WaitingToBeBanned 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They can and easily do, but more money is better than less money.

[–]Cgn38[🍰] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They are corporations. The professors lost control here long ago, they are run by business types for profit. "Education" is a label like "News".

Ever know a corporation that did not first last and only care about profit?

Murica.

[–]shifu_shifu 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I guess it makes sense then. It is still fucked up though.

[–]irrelevant_usernam3 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't get this either. I'll never give another cent to my Alma Mater. What other business can provide a costly service and then ask for more money years later? I think they way they do it is by acting like you're helping other students. Like: "Hey, we ripped you off. Give us more money to help the other people that we're doing it to."

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's only been in recent years that college has become atrociously expensive. In past generations, alumni who had a good experience were happy to donate to their beloved alma mater. The key here is that they weren't still paying off student loans like most are today.

[–]CptFizz 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't forget that donations can get you even into Ivy league schools. If you donate enough money to the university "development offices" (aka fund raising) your offsprings get private tours, meet and greet with staff and administration etc and their application will get a special status. Unless they're complete retards they'll get in this way.

There are also some super rich donors who'll pump money into university just to gain recognition. Gerald Chang for example donated $350 millions to Harvard. Just imagine someone like him saying "Your so called gender stuides are full of ideologues. Close the program or you get nothing".

[–]neovulcan 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I think the establishment is deliberately procrastinating equality to see if a female dominated education/workplace will produce a better society. At some point they'll finally call it a failed experiment for a number of reasons:

  • Treating someone as a perpetrator without due process erodes the rule of law

  • Removing the burden of proof for an accusation further erodes the rule of law

  • Hell, this whole "fat pride" movement has got to be up there somewhere, with obesity rates the way they are.

  • etc etc

[–]Hoodwink 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

deliberately procrastinating equality

If it's done for anything, it's probably for a reduction in population growth. Educating women in Africa's primary purpose is to reduce population growth. Contrary to popular renunciations about Malthus and how capitalism/technology proved him wrong, endless population growth and its tax on resources is something that is talked about in policy institutions.

This 'works' because women don't expect their job to be 'stay-at-home and part-time mother'. And because their own self-perception and its relationship to attraction and expectations of men change so that it knocks out a good portion of eligible 'husband material'. They also spend most of their early years in school and jobs instead of producing children.

If you teach men to fish, you feed a family. If you teach a women to fish, you feed cats.

It's not a failed experiment. It's working. There's a bunch of philosophy on reducing population growth that says that lifting women out of their gender roles and giving them options is the best way to reduce it because people and women are choosing it for themselves and you're not 'forcing' anybody.

[–]neovulcan 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If it's done for anything, it's probably for a reduction in population growth.

Why go to all that trouble to reduce population in a culture most suited to handling an increased population? Western nations, for the most part, aren't running shy on space or resources...

[–]Hoodwink 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

resources

Energy, water, fish, and others.. we're running into problems already.

Western nations also consume much more than others.

So the solution is to cut off the balls of men (through their ability to raise a family)..

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[–]deadghost23 23 points24 points25 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And also, take into fact that when give the option, WOMEN DONT GO INTO STEM FIELDS. Its mostly men by choice, women are never turned down to study, work in, or be a part of STEM fields.

[–]deadghost23 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What does this have to do with women having more scholarships?

[–]trickledown_equality 90 points91 points92 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Historically, females have had to face more social challenges and restrictions in order to obtain an education. However, women are now passing men in number of college degrees earned. The fact that females have more scholarships available to them may still reflect the historical social barriers they had to face to attend college in the past. In particular, there are some great scholarships for women returning to college.

Now? Just Now?

Female students began to outnumber males on college campuses in 1979

It's not just scholarships. Admissions are heavily stacked against men.

Historically??

Men and women in the earlier cohorts born prior to 1910 attended college in almost equal numbers. ... Later, for cohorts born around 1950, the relative graduation rate of men to women was 1.25, equal to that achieved earlier in the century for cohorts born from 1880 to 1910. The “homecoming”—the return to the previous level—took three or four decades. The relative advance for women in both college-graduation and attendance rates began in the 1950s (for cohorts born in the 1930s), but it was especially rapid for the generation born in the late 1940s. Parity was reached by the cohorts born in 1960, and the female advantage widened considerably in the next decade.

(p 134)

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 20 points21 points22 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And something feminists never mention: there's a pretty good reason the gap between men and women in college spiked in the 1960s.

Something about college men being exempted from the draft...

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hard to say how much of the "oppressive history of women" in education is feminist revisionism used as justification to disadvantage males in education.

The end goal of the feminist movement is to replace men in all positions of power with women creating a matriarchy, it can do this with subtly advantaging women through scholarships amongst other things.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Interesting I'll have to give that paper a read.

[–]circlhat 58 points59 points60 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for this, I been looking for cold hard facts about female privilege its so hard to find this research, please continue to contribute to the site.

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[–]garglemesh42 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The truth is more important than hurt feelings.

[–]unpicked-username 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

But without action, the numbers wont resolve themselves

[–]circlhat 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You do realize most people believe feminism statistics, they have to lie for a reason, if people are aware of the truth most would not be feminist.

[–]ratbacon 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Most are not feminist anyway. Just imagine what would be left if facts came into it.

[–]RubixCubeDonut 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most don't call themselves feminist. That's different from believing and spreading feminist misinformation.

Basically, I'm saying that they're rejecting the label as bad instead of understanding that the underlying ideology is bad and rejecting that. For all intents and purposes they are still ideologically feminist and it doesn't make sense to say they're not feminist.

It's basically just like encountering somebody who says they're not a christian but then tells you that they believe that Jesus Christ was their lord and savior. Literally the definition of a christian, they just don't want to call themselves that. Thus it'd be more accurate to call them a christian who doesn't associate with other christians, but saying they're not christian is misusing the words.

[–]logix425 39 points40 points41 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I am genuinely shocked that there are significant numbers of scholarships that can only be awarded to male students.

I wonder if they count scholarships that are de facto awarded only to one sex (e.g. NCAA football scholarships), or if they have to explicitly state the beneficiary's sex?

[–]toooooommmmmy 20 points21 points22 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They are mostly for athletes and minorities but not all of them. At first it seems surprising that those haven't been attacked by feminists. But that would be an indirect attack upon female scholarships as well. That's why.

[–]loddfavne 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Mens scholarships is under indirect attack from feminism in USA. Sports has offered oppurtunities to men giving them scholarships. Title IX means that there are 100 women and 1000 men that wants to do sports in a university, then the university can accomodate 100 women and only 100 men.

[–]Archibald_Andino 13 points14 points15 points 10 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

This all stems from the Feminists mindset of the 1970s. "Women are oppressed, held back, under performing, under represented... and the cause of all these problems is because of sexism, most of it from white males".

Girls reached academic parity with boys in 1981.

Since then, however, every business industry, every academic institution, every government agency has continued with the "we need to help these victims" mindset built into their psyche to the point where it is blasphemy to go against the "girls are oppressed" narrative.

Grammar school teaching is completely slanted towards females. The entire format and focus is changed for girl's learning styles. Boys graded worse for the same work. Much more likely to be drugged, disciplined, held back.

Feminism and their hysteria regarding false molestation forces male teachers away.

The results of this bias and preferential treatment aren't an accident, girls outperform boys across the board... with the one exception of science and math. Feminists respond with WWIII to increase the scores and numbers for girls in STEM, yet continue to say nothing regarding the huge disparities where boys are falling behind everywhere else (especially reading)

Keep going. Now we're at college where females are approaching an incredible 60% to 40% majority, yet they still have over 4 times the number of scholarships available to them vs. their male counterparts.

Then, once they graduate, these same girls actually earn more than their male counterparts before they start having children.

Yet... the narrative continues. The preferential treatment continues. The cries of victimization and sexism never end. Every public policy on this subject revolves around giving an upper hand to girls and women. Everyone repeated the same falsehoods over and over again like hypnotized zombies who are stuck in the year 1970.

EDIT: here is a great article on this subject

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/05/the-war-against-boys/304659/

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points25 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This article is incredibly poorly written. While I don't doubt the numbers, they did a terrible job displaying them.

-Of course California has the most scholarships, it's the biggest state. They could have divided by high school graduation numbers or at least population to find a meaningful number ($/student?).

-The text says there are 4x as many female-exclusive scholarships, but the graph clearly shows 6x as many. There's also no mention of the dollar amount.

-They use some bullshit "past social barriers" explanation to explain the discrepancy.

-This data only includes number of gender-restrictive scholarships, and says nothing about actual scholarships awarded or dollar amount received by gender. It could very well be that men still receive more money (say in gender-neutral STEM scholarships) according to this data.

While I don't disagree with the sentiment, this isn't good data to back it up.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Here is something that I have never understood.

Lets assume that my great grandmother was oppressed and wasn't allowed to get a job, own property, or go to school. So, why should this only benefit my sister but not me and my brothers?

[–]Aaod 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Same reason they assume men have the power because it is mostly men in congress for example despite their gender having sweet fuck all to do with my level of power. This also isn't getting into people who were raised by single mothers either. I do agree though this article is horribly written and makes me sad since I would feel shamed in using it to prove a point.

[–]CroikeyMoit 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Absolutely brilliant point - should be at the top of the thread.

[–]probpoopin 15 points16 points17 points 10 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Wouldn't a true equality feminist be against this? Obviously one gender is being given a massive advantage over the other. Where is the outcry against this? I don't see how any of them can seriously see this and not reflect on the extreme hypocrisy this is. You would think we would hear a sane one or two come out and say women are doing fine in school and this coddling just makes it seem like women are getting special treatment, which is sexist. I swear, everytime I have talked to or debated one I get the line, feminism is in support of both genders. I laugh.

[–]RaptorPrincess 34 points35 points36 points 10 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

I'm a female, and I've had multiple scholarships just based on the genitals I was born with. I'm talking scholarships that had NO other qualifications other than that I was a female. Every time I hear certain women shout "patriarchy" and "privilege," I point this out and I hear excuses. (Oddly enough, usually it's along the lines of it "making up for" some vague past injustice women have faced from men.)

I'm no saint, and I took all the scholarships my counselor advised me to, but since then I've matured and realized how absurd and one-sided this is. Frankly, it's even insulting that I would need a financial "boost" just because I have a vagina. I have never felt disadvantaged because of my gender, and being awarded scholarships on that assumption defeats the purpose of what feminism should be about- equality regardless of gender.

[–]redditorriot 18 points19 points20 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You give me hope.

[–]RaptorPrincess 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I really, really hope that we can all work to get back to a more common-sense middle ground. There's only so far a scale can tip one way before it topples, right? It just sucks that the girls I know like me are reluctant to bear the brunt of our louder counterparts. When I say I don't identify as a feminist, it's thrown back, "You don't think you should get paid as much as a man?! That you should just raise his babies and be a housewife???" and you just can't argue with that kind of illogical reasoning. Because in their eyes, feminism means "we're equal to men in all things, except where we can have an advantage."

It's that fucking Animal Farm quote all over again.

[–]cuteman 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm no saint, and I took all the scholarships my counselor advised me to, but since then I've matured and realized how absurd and one-sided this is. Frankly, it's even insulting that I would need a financial "boost" just because I have a vagina. I have never felt disadvantaged because of my gender, and being awarded scholarships on that assumption defeats the purpose of what feminism should be about- equality regardless of gender.

It's almost as if more radical feminists never expect to have male children down the line.

[–]mEatBucket 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Their solution to this is either killing their sons for being born men or trying to turn them into females with hormones.

Both are happening today.

[–]cosmicsans 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But it's okay, because the mother will just say that it was the father's fault and she'll walk away with some sort of lame excuse as to how she was conditioned to hate her children and couldn't help herself.

[–]azazelcrowley 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

(Oddly enough, usually it's along the lines of it "making up for" some vague past injustice women have faced from men.)

Chauvinistic revanchism is one of the problems in society right now, and it's the direct result of feminist ideology.

[–]RaptorPrincess 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wasn't aware of the term, thank you for that. It just, doesn't make any sense at all to me. I know men who struggled in school financially and could have used additional funds. For some to see that as a by-product of progress is just infuriating.

[–]chinawinsworlds 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Since you took them, you're in a position to fight against this bullshit.

[–]RaptorPrincess 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I do my best, but it's an uphill battle. I'm in a female-dominated industry right now, and while I've had the occasional productive discussion with colleagues, a good chunk of them shout me down as they spew this cliched, regurgitated bullshit that I'm sure you guys hear all the time. I've gotten into heated arguments about the draft, and typically the reply I get is "well we shouldn't have it at all!" and they skirt around the question.

It's fucking disturbing. Use logic to go against this wave of feminism, and they act like you're betraying your entire fucking gender. But yeah, "privilege" isn't exclusive to one gender.

[–]chinawinsworlds 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Jesus. You know, some people on the Internet like to say Scandinavia is the most feminist shitty place, but I've never heard anything like these things in Norway. Feminists here seem to be slightly more logical, less brainwashed perhaps. Still idiots mostly, but not like this.

[–]IRKittyz 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Spontaneously starts clapping

[–]VAGINA_BLOODFART 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

An egalitarian would be. A feminist would be a-ok with it.

[–]Havikz 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Not surprising when girls have scholarships for just being girls.

[–]hungershit 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

They are basically being given free money to go to school, whore it up, and try to land men in STEM fields with high earning potential. Most women I meet in college are more concerned with their relationships than they are with their academics or career prospects.

[–]Aaod 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

To be fair an excessively large amount of males I have dealt with in college should not be there and are more concerned with sports or drinking or whatever. I would personally say on average the normal female college student is more prepared for college and is less likely to screw around compared to males. (This could be accounted for by previous or current education discrimination though.) One factor that can not be accounted for by discrimination is the gigantic effect the bell curve has on male IQ where you have both more men at the top of the IQ chart compared to women, but also more men at the bottom of the chart. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289606001115

Personally so far in college I have only had two women in college I thought were about as bright as a box of rocks, but I have lost count of how many men fit into that category. Hell one male last week asked his friend how to spell knowledge during class.

[–]IRKittyz 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men always tend to be at the extremes, smallest person, tallest person, dumbest person, the brightest person. Might be our funky Y chromosome but I don't really know so don't quote me on it.

[–]MrSparkle86 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Say it with me bros: affirmative action!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Which actually helps white women the most.

[–]Tmomp 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

bros

Not everyone here is male.

[–]MrSparkle86 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But everyone is a bro, BRO.

[–]bradtwo 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Because you have a penis your life is so much easier than if it were missing. Also female led businesses get more tax break, same with minority led businesses. But I must ask you, there seems to be more Chinese and Indian people than Caucasian, so who really is the minority

[–]Rafoie 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A poor white male child has the lowest chance of success statistically. Lower than even poor black male children. But really these rabbit holes go much deeper. Equality isn't the name of the game and it never has been

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

But women do not out-pace men in college admissions nor earning their degrees by 4 times, and men certainly out-pace women in earning more lucrative degrees, the types of degrees that are highly valued in the job marketplace, and actually use their degrees more than women do throughout their lives. Men still outperform women... even with those 500 pound weights the systems and society attaches to men. Kind of makes me feel a little bit of pity for women in a way, but not really.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How is this legal?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because women are oppressed they must be given advantages equal opportunity. Because men are not oppressed there is no such requirement.

[–]soalone34 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wonder at what point there will be one college educated male for every 30 college educated females. Somehow, it'll still be oppressing females.

[–]Correctrix 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That's quite badly phrased. Hardly any (5%) of the scholarships were restricted by sex. Of those few, sure, more were for women.

The title makes it sound like four times as many scholarships are given to women as to men.

What it's actually saying is that roughly 1% are specifically for men, 4% for women, and 95% to whichever. I would presume that none are really allocated to men: the small number that seem to be just for men are for sporting scholarships in sex-segregated sports. The women would benefit from a few of such places too, plus many more academic places which are specifically given to women in order to get them into STEM or whatever. I'm heartened to see that 95% are not subject to that sort of discrimination.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wonder though, in those so-called gender neutral ones, what is ratio of money given to men vs women, iow, is there substantive equality?

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Given that women are the majority in college shouldn't it be the other way around?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not sure where the 4 times number comes from, it looks like 6 times to me (50 to 300). Of the private scholarships analyzed (5,864), 0.8% (~50) were specifically for men out of the 5.9% (~350) scholarships that had gender restrictions. I don't really see the issue though considering the sources are private. If this were data on discrimination in Pell Grants or similar programs that would be a different matter.

[–]HerbertRTarlekJr 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Why are attorneys not all over the obvious bias in limiting ANY scholarship to a specific group or ethnicity? I certainly don't get to limit my job applicants in such a way.

[–]FastFourierTerraform 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Say it with me: private organizations. You may not like it, but it's 100% legal

[–]HerbertRTarlekJr 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Really? Then why can't country clubs be men only?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is easier for women to complete their education than men. Women are already ahead of men of the percentage of of University's student pop, and faculty makeup. Therefore they WILL make up the majority of professionals after the baby boom generation retires. Well I guess that balances out years of Men dominating the professional/education scene for years right.

[–]--Visionary-- 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks -- this post really helps for future discussions. I usually never have access to the data at my fingertips and now I do.

[–]Akesgeroth 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Reminder that last week, a Canadian judge overturned a doctor's last will to create a fund for scholarships for white males because muh soggy knee.

[–]Mitschu 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Power to the Female: 4 Times More Female-Only Scholarships

Historically, females have had to face more social challenges and restrictions in order to obtain an education. However, women are now passing men in number of college degrees earned. The fact that females have more scholarships available to them may still reflect the historical social barriers they had to face to attend college in the past. In particular, there are some great scholarships for women returning to college.

The presence of blatant privilege as theoretical evidence of past oppression. Is there any way feminists and their sympathizers won't spin?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I looked at the Pornhubs scholarship. Most of the applications seem to be female. So there's that.

[–]wanderer779 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

While I don't believe anyone should be given favoritism for their race/sex, before we get too up in arms let's keep in mind that women-only scholarships only make up about 5% of the total number. So it doesn't seem like being male would significantly reduce your chances of getting a scholarship, all else being equal.

[–]repete66219 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm surprised this doesn't get more attention. When I was considering grad school I checked out the available scholarships, grants, etc. It's incredible how many are explicitly discriminatory in regards to race and gender. It's also eye-opening how many graduate level positions at a school are (apparently) required to be filled by non-white, non-male students.

[–]Darth_Sin 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But teh wimminz are oppressed ! Yeah right.

Feminism = Female supremacy movement.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

only 5 percent have gender restrictions and 6 percent have ethnicity restrictions.

There are 4 times as many scholarships for females as there are for males.

does this mean that scholarships for both were not counted? if so, that means men have access to 96% of scholarships vs women 99%. A 3% gap IS a gap, but like the remaining unexplained wage gap in CONSAD/AAUW studies, is not a substantial effect.

[–]mRechter 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I thought the same. The title is misleading.

[–]DarthStem 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And people complaining not enough black people get nominated for Oscar's. I love our society.

[–]Clockw0rk 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And men kill themselves at four times the rate women do.

Huh. Isn't that a funny little coincidence?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thabkyou saved

[–]RedundantMale 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And yet, using the search facility, there are 2390 in total, 2376 for females, 2224 for males

So 14 are not available to females, 166 are not available to males

I make that 12 times as many for only-females as only-males

The website might be buggy

[–]EphemeralChaos 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Yeah patriarchy! how dare you deny that patriarchy is the root of all evil! and that every single issue there is in the world will be solved by eliminating patriarchy!" (sarcasm)

[–]HoundDogs 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Somehow, I'm sure this is men's fault.

[–]toooooommmmmy 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women outnumber men in colleges even those western countries where scholarships play no or only a tiny role. So, they don't explain the gap although the article assumes they do.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you so much for this. It's something I'm personally experiencing, too, especially in STEM where there are a LOT of scholarships for women (and as of recent years, a decline in men entering the fields. Interesting how there aren't scholarships to get women on oil rigs or to do high-rise construction or anything dangerous or dirty. Nah, just scholarships for the high-paying, cushy jobs... but that's another topic...) I'm a white male, and no one is throwing money at my feet or paving the way to an education with gold. I'm not feeling ANY of that supposed "privilege" I have. I mean ffs, this summer, my only option for attending college is winning scholarships. And if I can't get that paid for, I have to wait another YEAR to take the classes I need, because they're only offered once a year. x_X

Since men are a minority on campus now, I guess I could follow some advice here http://www.collegescholarships.org/scholarships/white-scholarship-guide.htm and argue that men, as a campus minority, are eligible for minority scholarships (though I don't agree 100% with all the points the article makes...)

[–]rg57 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's OK. The courts of Canada have declared that it's against the public interest to help men.

[–]TheYambag 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My son is writing down "female" on all of his scholarship applications. Worst case scenario, they think he is trans and he gets even more scholarships!

[–]Daktush 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

/r/rage

[–]DillipFayKick 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm surprised the number isn't higher

[–]fingerboxes 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This figure hides an even uglier truth; women (and minorities) get their special scholarships that guys/whites need not apply for.... And get to compete for the ones we can apply for, too. And get preferential selection in those because 'diversity'.

If you looked at rates that they actually receive scholarships, I'll bet that it is more like 100:1, not 4:1

My gf, who is hispanic, got out of her undergrad without paying a dime and without ever applying for more than a couple scholarships a semester. Now she is in grad school, and is getting paid to attend. I'm $40,000 in debt, halfway through my undergrad, and have given up applying for scholarships after being rejected by 100+ every semester so far.

[–]Ovendice 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Good GOD, $40,000 in debt? Please don't tell me you're majoring in some bullshit like 'Communications,' 'Marketing,' or Journalism.

[–]fingerboxes 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Aerospace Engineering

[–]Ovendice 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well thank god. Nice to run into someone going to college today with some sense.

[–]PowerWisdomCourage 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It also says only 5% of scholarships have gender restrictions. Of course, having 4 times the number available skewed towards the majority isn't something to just overlook because they only account for a small number.

[–]McFeely_Smackup 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Offering more scholarships for women is just a male power fantasy.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have a database of male-specific scholarships here: http://boysmeneducation.com/database-of-college-and-university-scholarships-for-men/

If you know of any that aren't currently included please let me know. I'll be reviewing the scholarships again soon.

[–]TheRealMouseRat 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nothing to see here people, it's only female privilege. We're surrounded by it every day.

[–]Ovendice 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And to think, 60% of all those women will only major in the absolute easiest liberal arts fluff majors there aren't even jobs for in the job market, while another 35% will major in low grade education, nursing and accounting and 5% actually majoring in medicine, law or STEM and then 95% of those women will drop completely out of the workforce and flake out to become housewives in just a few years. How much longer are we going to keep up this farce and this JOKE?

College for women is nothing more than a very expensive summer camp and the one place they can go in society where they 'feel' smart and at least create the illusion their winners, going somewhere in life for a few years.

Meanwhile they're also hogging all the money out there to pay for college with scholarships and just wasting it all when those funds could be going to a real person, a man trying to become a doctor or enter STEM. Our entire society and economy is DOOMED.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's because people will get publicly smeared and slandered for financing male only scholarships, and rewarded for sponsoring female ones.

Feminists should ONLY be allowed to help eachother. When it comes to criticising the male movement, they should not be allowed to talk, PERIOD. No complaining. No patriarchy. Mentioning the Patriarchy should be illegal.

[+][deleted] -8 points-7 points-6 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Say women, not females, you're not describing herds of game.

[+]nuesuh -11 points-10 points-9 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

awwww :( Females have had it hard in the past. Now men has to make room for the poor females. :( :(

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