Unattractive females don't have it easier or harder than unattractive males. The key point is that men fall into the unattractive category way easier than women does.

wtknight · 2021-08-14T13:23:51+00:00

Re-flaired to CMV as this is an affirmative claim.

Taipanshimshon · 2021-08-14T13:43:41+00:00

Generally agreed except it's harder to become an unattractive woman. Very few objective agreed upon requirements.

And many socially encouraged augments

vredditcocksucker · 2021-08-14T13:02:54+00:00

You basically never see sub5 young men date up. The same can not be said for unattractive young women.

MyrganGyrgan · 2021-08-14T09:50:52+00:00

I mostly agree, but then I do see quite a few genuinely ugly or obese women with average dudes. I've never seen a genuinely ugly man with anyone except occasionally a very very ugly woman.

Effective-Shop5215 · 2021-08-14T23:48:12+00:00

We live in a world where everybody has gone insane and lacking logic. They are seriously claiming a 170 pound 5'4 woman (AVG woman in america) isn't obese or even borderline obese, and they claim she's of average 5/10 attractiveness? She's a 2/10.

bathwatermerchant · 2021-08-16T11:47:41+00:00

Ugly girl=literally deformed

Ugly guy=not mildly above average in height and looks

21stCenturySucks · 2021-08-14T11:10:59+00:00

To all the women commenting I see pretty girls dating "neckbeard ugly" men i think you're proving my point.

DXBrigade · 2021-08-14T18:48:10+00:00

The problem is not men being unattractive, it's women being passive. A woman not getting hit on is ugly, the reverse is not true for men.

KB06902 · 2021-08-14T21:11:50+00:00

Sexuallly disagree, an unattractive woman with a nice body can still get better looking men to have sex with her.

An unattractive man would have to live in the gym unlike his female counterpart in order to get any kind of attention from woman.

That's why men who sleep around is not the same as women who sleep around the circumstances are completely different regardless how many times modern women/feminists say its the same thing.

LMM-GT02 · 2021-08-15T05:58:59+00:00

JDBF - Just don’t be fat

A guaranteed method to be a hot commodity of a person as a woman unless your face is truly busted or you are disabled/disfigured.

That’s it. Life is what you make it if you aren’t a fat lady.

DplusLplusKplusM · 2021-08-14T14:44:16+00:00

TBH I think people whose primary goal is to achieve "general validation" are probably missing out on a lot in life. It really only takes one truly great person to provide a happy, stable partnership. When we worry about what the entire world thinks then we're destined for disappointment. It shouldn't be a race between the sexes to figure out who has it harder in life.

ChibsFilipTelfordd · 2021-08-14T10:01:43+00:00

That's just not true. There's one survey done on a biased sample (OKC users) that doesn't say 90% of women are attractive, in fact, the men only messaged hot women ourselves. And guilty as charged, why would i match with a fatty or uggo.

The point is, most Americans fall in to the unattractive category. 68% of women, 72% of men (obesity). 66% of men (no degree), whatever % of women who are single mothers, people of both genders who were genetically cursed facially, etc.

I actually think ugly men get treated worse than ugly women too, mainly because the impetus is on them to ask out the women of their level, they're the ones who get harshly rejected because the women won't accept they're ugly or fat themselves.

But no i do not agree that one flawed survey indicates your premise is true.

It could be true and if i saw proof id change my mind. But lots more evidence would be required. Which I've not seen and doubt exists.

OliveNew5455 · 2021-08-14T11:15:36+00:00

You are speaking about unattractive people yet lot of the guys in the comment change it to ugly, i believe its two different things. But even so most people that I know who are considered ugly have issue with teeth or way unfitting style, the point is that unless you have a serious defect(less than 1 %) you can easily be at least 4/10 in the face. That makes you unattractive but it's workable. Now I'm not sure that men fall in that category easier to be honest. When we check things like tinder etc we must be aware of different criteria for a short time fling between genders. Men generally have higher standards for a relationship (even lookwise) that for a simple fuck, while women have higher standards for looks and attractivness in a short time fling than in a relationship. So what that means ? That unattractive females (close to ugly) will still get a lot of sex offers but it's hard for them to keep a man of at least some value. While unattractive males will have a bad time picking chicks at a club but a higher chance for a partner (providing their personality is right).

Lonelybuthopeful9 · 2021-08-14T13:43:42+00:00

Uhm sweeety, akchually ugly women also suffer in dating, it just only 0.0001% of all womens are ugly while 99% of all mens are ugly 🤪🤪

AnnoKano · 2021-08-14T19:16:20+00:00

Imagine sincerely believing that men are held to a higher standard than women are when it comes to physical appearance.

I don’t care what your dating app says, a look around the world makes it clear this isn’t true... How much money do women spend on their appearances, compared to men? How much floor space in clothing stores is for women compared to men? How much of the makeup market is for women? Why are trophy wives common but trophy husbands rare?

Honestly guys, when your conclusion is such a clear anomaly, perhaps it’s time to question your methodology.

LeJacquelope · 2021-08-14T10:12:57+00:00

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festethefoole1 · 2021-08-14T10:42:42+00:00

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Effective-Shop5215 · 2021-08-14T17:19:31+00:00

35%-40% of American women are obese. So bottom 40% of women is automatically ugly to me (utterly unfuckable). Another 15% are too overweight - they aren't ugly but are just unattractive enough that I wouldn't pursue them unless a became a bit paunchy myself.

As a slightly unattractive but healthy weight man I'm not incumbent to go whaling. I have weight standards but I'm fairly forgiving on facial attractiveness (or lack of).

TheRedPillRipper · 2021-08-14T10:55:07+00:00

Unattractive females don’t have it easier or harder

Men do fall into the unattractive category easier; but they also can escape it easier than a woman. For example an unattractive man can simply train hard. Once reasonably muscular; dress well, and they’re attractiveness increases substantially.

Conversely an unattractive woman, can train hard, dress well and still the number one factor men will appraise is her attractiveness. As looks matter; and generally a woman’s looks only go one way with age.

In regards to TRP, personality doesn’t matter if you’re ugly. As again how you look matters. If it didn’t; Tinder profiles wouldn’t need pics. If you’re ugly and ripped though; you know what pics would be up in your profile. Or we’d all just have personalities up.

Godspeed and good luck!

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Jakes1967 · 2021-08-14T16:26:14+00:00

The key point is that men fall into the unattractive category way easier than women does.

Men who are unattractive, have a huge amount of resources these days, obviously money is required.

I know guys who've gone through leg lengthening (an extremely painful process), as well as facial sculpting, jaw reframing etc.

I just saw a post here quoting a redpill that if you're ugly then you're personality doesn't matter. First of all if you belive in that your not based, you're a redpill lmao.

There are plenty of "ugly" women, who are married, purely because of their personalities. So of the happiest marriages have an ugly spouse.

hi_and_fuck_you · 2021-08-14T16:55:59+00:00

Okay but this is just another way of saying it's harder for men in general than women. It doesn't need to be narrowed down to ugly people to begin with.

Lameador · 2021-08-14T21:32:28+00:00

Dog chasing his own tail ? Your post could be rephrased as « The last percentile of women have it the same way as the bottom half of men «

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Atsena · 2021-08-14T21:48:30+00:00

Another point for consideration: most women do way more work to look good than men do. Of course they're more attractive.

LongBlueToTopLeft · 2021-08-14T17:12:45+00:00

People need to stop posting this sort of thing as though it were fact. Where are the studies and surveys? The New England Journal of Misogyny?

Title	Unattractive females don't have it easier or harder than unattractive males. The key point is that men fall into the unattractive category way easier than women does.
Author	21stCenturySucks
Upvotes	100
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Date	August 14, 2021 9:43 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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