Underrage teenagers get drunk and have oral sex. Teacher intervention leaves boy dead.

Tmomp · 2015-01-11T15:06:30+00:00

The inquest heard that assistant head teacher Dafydd Morris, who was in charge of child protection at the time, interviewed Yale after being advised to do so by Wrexham's social services department.

Why do I have the feeling child protection meant protect the girl from the boy in the eyes of this adult and maybe the institution?

Apparently the boy needed protection from "child protection".

How about some compassion for a boy?

They both drank. Was the girl told the boy couldn't have consented? If not, why the double standard? Why not imply he may have been raped? (or whatever the law calls it in the UK if it doesn't recognize that males can be raped).

Did this child protection person imply anything other than he might be a rapist? That he may have been raped or that being under-age might change something?

Do we need to teach child protection not to threaten and attack boys?

garblegarble12 · 2015-01-11T11:10:02+00:00

Teacher informed the boy that his partner couldn't have given consent if they were both drunk. Horrified of the implications boy goes home and kills himself. Nice work teacher, I guess thats one less 'rapist' as far as your concerned?

patcomen · 2015-01-11T15:18:12+00:00

Notice that the young man is treated as responsible . . . for . . . everything.

2015-01-11T16:48:44+00:00

On a slightly different tangent, someone can be drunk, not remember sex, and claim rape, yet someone can get drunk, not remember driving, but be held accountable for it? I'm trying to find the logic here...

KrisK_lvin · 2015-01-11T12:24:57+00:00

This is an appalling tragedy, as it is when anyone, especially a young person, takes their life, but this has left me speechless.

Mr Morris told the three-day hearing in Ruthin that when he told Yale that a girl under the influence of alcohol could not consent to have sex he seemed "shocked and scared".

Of course the boy was shocked and scared, a 15 year-old boy in the UK, he'd have likely seen or heard about something like this on the TV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lErO9lp201Q

rjfrost18 · 2015-01-11T17:06:19+00:00

the big problem here is that when men are drunk they are expected to know better than the woman they are having sex with, this is the complete opposite of the equal society that feminist claim to want.

Frittern · 2015-01-11T19:25:13+00:00

Boys and men are like shame sponges..They will internalize not only their own mistakes but the mistake of others..This Kid probable thought he was doing the world a favor, that the kinda boys and men or society is creating today.For every one that kills themselves there are a hundreds that hold themselves in deep secrete contempt they hate themselves hate their sexual impulse because that is what there being taught..

This is the real lesson when you teach men/boys not to rape, teach men/boys not to hate women..The true message is your a rapist and you hate women..That this is a mans default setting.Boys are being taught to live their lives perpetually having to prove they do not hate women do not want to rape or abuse them. They will have to prove to other and themselves that there one of the few good men worthy of love and acceptance.

And for the masses of men that will kill themselves fast and on slow burn mode their are armies which seek escape, avoid participating in a society that hates them.A few, a handful out of millions will become the monsters there told they are..Those few then held up and used to demonize and condemn future generations of hapless males..

If we keep following this trajectory boy's will line themselves up and thank society for socially and eventually physically castrating them..

Wargame4life · 2015-01-11T20:23:27+00:00

I remember when i were a lad being in school and the teachers telling us that if a boy and a girl both have sex underage its only the boy that had committed a crime.

i was only 11 and i remember thinking "fuck off"

Smokratez · 2015-01-11T15:36:57+00:00

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harleypig · 2015-01-11T12:10:08+00:00

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WhippingBoys · 2015-01-11T22:49:18+00:00

I found my wife crying over this article last night. She was absolutely devastated that this poor kid killed himself over a lie we hear every day and was bawling her eyes out thinking it might happen to any future son of ours one day.

Read the article and then got just as upset. Super tired. Did not enjoy going to bed angry. This disgusting feminist bullshit needs to stop. How many fucking lives do they need to destroy!

slideforlife · 2015-01-11T14:50:28+00:00

it's just a dead boy, nothing to see here.

ThePigmanAgain · 2015-01-11T19:45:03+00:00

So, when is the asshole teacher going to be charged with something like child endangerment or negligence? Heh, never -- you need to cause a girl's death for that shit to go down.

scanspeak · 2015-01-11T17:58:33+00:00

The UK is pretty fucked up in general when it comes to mens rights and child sex IMO

Niketi · 2015-01-11T19:05:53+00:00

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cavehobbit · 2015-01-12T00:38:27+00:00

Feminists everywhere are now highfiving while giggling with an evil, creepy, grin

2015-01-12T00:48:09+00:00

Fuck me.

They terrified this kid to the point of fucking suicide for the crime being a drunk teenager.

Un fucking real.

Polahhhbear · 2015-01-11T18:42:20+00:00

No damnit, no.... These things happen way too often.

50PercentLies · 2015-01-11T18:49:28+00:00

Well he couldn't give consent either, so

craigske · 2015-01-11T20:22:34+00:00

She should be charged now right? They were both drunk, so he couldn't consent to sex.

Pornography_saves_li · 2015-01-12T02:33:00+00:00

And they will blame 'the system' for letting him 'fall through the cracks', vote themselves a budget increase and forget all about it.

And so will the public.

Because people allow this shit to happen.

EliCaaash · 2015-01-11T19:40:51+00:00

Gotta love how they threw in, "gentle giant." That's strong emotional rhetoric, the implication being that gentle giants can turn, at any instant, into a monster.

It's such an underhandedly insidious thing to say, you almost can't help but admire the subtly with which the teacher condemned the poor boy while superficially defending his character.

annul · 2015-01-11T12:51:46+00:00

What a tragedy. This poison is what the Left has brought to the UK.

Fuck the Left, and fuck feminists.

manofsea · 2015-01-11T17:26:36+00:00

yes a woman can not consent to sex after drinking but a man can.

Arby01 · 2015-01-11T14:14:44+00:00

You make it sound like the teacher busts in and started bashing the kids head in.

Druk0ziz · 2015-01-11T19:36:14+00:00

It sure sounds like something in this story is missing. It goes from everyone being calm and collected to all of a sudden someone commits suicide.

Your_Bacon_Counselor · 2015-01-11T20:44:16+00:00

At least he won't have to grow up and live in a society that treats males that way. ( /s but only kind of..)

ilikewc3 · 2015-01-11T20:48:53+00:00

you really don't need the extreme title here.

EliCaaash · 2015-01-11T20:16:17+00:00

Sensationalist bullshit.

For all you know, he was suicidal before any of this happened. Until evidence of the teacher wrongdoing it's absolutely ridiculous to blame them for this teen's decision to take his own life.

2015-01-12T07:31:10+00:00

rapist is accusatory. it's a word with stigma, it's associated with intent and violence.

telling somebody they didn't get informed consent is way less accusatory, way less violent, is not necessarily associated with intent and carries less stigma. it's a good word actually. you want it. if you didn't get it, let's figure out what happened. maybe both parties were super drunk, as was the case here. well, show me a conviction where both parties were super drunk. especially if it doesn't seem likely the alleged victim will cooperate.

there was no reason for the kid to kill himself. who even knows if it would have gone before a judge. it could have been a couple meetings with the parents, explain to the both of the kids what healthy sex is, what consent is, probably ground them from each other, move on.

Title	Underrage teenagers get drunk and have oral sex. Teacher intervention leaves boy dead.
Author	garblegarble12
Upvotes	352
Comments	201
Date	January 11, 2015 11:07 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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