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[–]daisy_0720FDS Disciple519 points520 points521 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
This truth right here.
Men never thank you for helping them at their lowest or building them up. They just lose all respect for you for dating someone like them in the first place. Then as soon as they "level up" they drop you to go find someone they perceive more in their league.
[–]awreathafranklinFDS Newbie86 points87 points88 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Not even better! Sometimes it's just someone mediocre and available because LVM need as much validation from others as possible. Anything to fill the endless pit where inner self-esteem should be.
[–]AnnoirNevillyFDS Newbie41 points42 points43 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This! My ex just got better a little bit (like training harder, learning salsa and recieving bread crunbles of attention of mediocre women) plus me calling him for his bullshit and stand by myself that discarted me. He just stopped to talk to me after get a tattoo (that I made the art). He doesnt have even the consideration of talk to me like a man to break up.
[–]pinkpoopgtelostFDS Newbie23 points24 points25 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
They are really desperate for any attention and as soon as they get a breadcrumb like you said, they think they’re actually universally desirable. I don’t understand how an entire gender can be so delusional sometimes but this really is true for men.
[–]AnnoirNevillyFDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yea, my ex was so desperate for women attention that in the last months was using interpals, badoo and tinder. Also shady apps (when it comes of guys using it) like telegram, snapchat and viber. He started to send invites on FB for women fromt the whole country (that was not a friend and some I do believe that he doesnt know). At the case of the woman deny the invite he would follow her and of course following models on FB (in his case ginger ones, he is obssessed with gingers). If he dies right now, he doesnt have even a hole in the ground to be buried but still behaves like he is special. He is so delusional that he thinks that learn to dance salsa, lift more weights in gym and got tattoos will make him big deal.
[–]Unlikely-MarzipanRuthless Strategist7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, exactly! It’s just their narc egos needing more validation from more supply, after they’ve drained the supply or become bored of the supply, from the woman who built him up.
[–]BasieSkanksRuthless Strategist348 points349 points350 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Barb the Builder never wins.
[–]MakeURegretFDS Newbie198 points199 points200 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Can we fix it. No WE can’t!
[–]SpaceC4seFDS Newbie44 points45 points46 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
NO, it's fucked!
[–][deleted] 44 points45 points46 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I love you ladies! 😄
[–]jjlew922FDS Disciple13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bobette the builder! Let’s not even give the courtesy of a female surname here 🤣
[–]SewudFDS Disciple106 points107 points108 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The second a man becomes better and improved, he looks for a better and improved partner. This is one of the consistent truths about men. There's sadly no point building a man up. If you get with a man who has built himself up already, he will find you that much more valuable for having had to work hard to be worthy of you. If you got with him when he was at his lowest, he will never have any respect for you. He will forever see you as trash who dates trash because they define women by who they date. This is why they never leave a woman alone if she's single, but if she has a boyfriend they back off. Even the manosphere admits that they don't want the girl who dates them at their lowest, they want the girl they can get at their best.
[–]SpaceC4seFDS Newbie36 points37 points38 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If he's just going to trade up then he can build his own damn self up, cuz I am not the one.
[–]DrildoBagurrenFDS Apprentice222 points223 points224 points 5 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
What's mad is that I've never met a man who actually wants to help a woman the way we're trained to help them. Some men see women who are going through a rough time and, instead of helping, simply exploit her. Others just call her a mess and don't give her a second thought- depends on how attractive she is, really.
And I was a "hot" mess when I was young, believe me. They don't want to build you up. They like that you're broke, they like that your self-esteem is near rock bottom, they like that you don't have many friends or family around you, they like that you think you're ugly, stupid and not good enough. They act like they gonna build you up, but all they do is take it away and you end up worse off.
And we're supposed to painstakingly drag a dude out of his own rut because he's "got issues" even if we sacrifice ourselves doing this. Even if the dude doesn't shower, doesn't clean up, doesn't work, doesn't give us any thought , we're supposed to support him and treat him like he's king, but train him like a dog til he's back on his feet. It's exhausting and yeah, he sure does lose respect for you for sticking around. Or he becomes like a limit and won't ever leave you alone because "we've been through so much together " . No, dude, you put me through a lot and I threw my life down the drain for it. I'm not sticking around to be your second mommy forever.
[–][deleted] 79 points80 points81 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They don't want to build you up. They like that you're broke, they like that your self-esteem is near rock bottom, they like that you don't have many friends or family around you, they like that you think you're ugly, stupid and not good enough. They act like they gonna build you up, but all they do is take it away and you end up worse off.
Yes! A million times, yes! They love women who are vulnerable.
[–]DelicateDreamFDS Disciple81 points82 points83 points 5 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Yep. I’ve observed that women are encouraged to view a man in terms of his “potential”. Of course we’re supposed to support him as he develops it. Either he never does or he trades up as soon as he can.
BUT LVM tend to see women as depreciating assets, not holding untapped potential they can unleash with their love (barf). They see you as at your best now and expect you to only get “worse”. That’s why they’ll look at your mom to get an idea of how well you’ll age. They will also evaluate you in terms of what you can do now for them to help them. This is why when they marry, they know they are getting the better deal. They don’t marry “potential”.
A HVM may not see you as deprecating, but he will experience your value as-is, not in terms of potential, and this is typically based on how you feel about yourself and act towards him.
[–]sikuletFDS Newbie50 points51 points52 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hence, date like a man and win the game. Don’t look into his future, if he doesn’t meet your standards now, next him.
I went out with a guy who said he is going to buy a house, going back to college and starting a new job. Checked up on him on two months. He didn’t continue with his enrollment, the new job failed because he didn’t submit requirements on time as for the house now he is talking about renting some more and buying a house for investment. Ooookay. Next.
[–]burntbpdFDS Newbie44 points45 points46 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This!!! Never again am I falling for guys offering 'help'. It's a trap. It's a scam.
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[–]idhavetochargeFDS Newbie42 points43 points44 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The biggest red flag is when you DON'T do something and they flip out. Don't cook dinner for them. They should be able to handle that without you. Don't do their laundry. Don't clean up after them. In a relationship when you live together a certain amount of back and forth is to be expected, but things should be pretty even overall and I don't mean he mows the yard once a month and you cook every night.
Dating red flags are his house is a mess, he cancels on you without an emergency or he tries to arrange a date last minute, complaining about his ex, his job, or in general complaining like you are his therapist. He (and you) should have friends to vent to, your SO should not have to be your sole emotional outlet.
On that last note, SO MANY men cannot express their feelings to anyone in their life so they expect YOU to deal with ALL of it. This is the 'I showed her my feelings and she dumped me, wah, women don't like emotional men' No, its not that we don't like emotional men, we don't like when they try to unpack 30 years of emotions on us all at once because they thinks its not 'masculine' to be sad in front of their male buddies.
[–]ShadowRealmDwellerFDS Apprentice23 points24 points25 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
your last paragraph is 100% spot on. They treat us like a sex toy/prostitute/therapist/mom/intellectual receptacle/everything in between.
[–]jjlew922FDS Disciple17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lean into those feelings to heal you first and foremost, where does this feel familiar in the past? Take time for you to explore before another relationship. If not you’ll attract the same, most likely ❤️
[–]curieusecat21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Okay I didn't expect to cry today but thanks for opening my eyes
[–]SirCrowDevoidOfCornFDS Newbie12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Babe, I second every word of this. It's all true.
[–]ninetiesbaby16FDS Apprentice247 points248 points249 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
To redpill and mgtow lurkers: this is why we just wait at the finish line to get with the winners 🙃
[–][deleted] 55 points56 points57 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
😃
[–]LookingForEquanimityFDS Newbie67 points68 points69 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
My first serious boyfriend from when I was 20 was so poor that he barely had enough to buy toilet paper. But at the time I really didn’t care because I enjoyed spending time with him. We were together for years. Eventually he started making a ton of money and then he actually accused me of only being with him because he makes a lot of money. Lol ok. Anyway yea he became a dick. And I left.
[–]AlextheAnalystPickmeisha™️9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lmao, that is super ridiculous. Did he suddenly develop that facial recognition disorder and think you were someone else who had just shown up right when the money did?
[–]MadWhackerIncFDS Newbie119 points120 points121 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Ouch how true that is. 8yrs with an ex and apparently the gal he has found to fill the void I left is just oh so much better! No sweetie, you just (hopefully) learned a valuable lesson from your years with me and haven't put her through the hell I faced or she's so desperate she ignores how incapable you are.
[–]jjlew922FDS Disciple26 points27 points28 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hands down these men aren’t better off, they just found someone easier (or they hope) to manipulate or control. Maybe someone more on the borderline crazy spectrum. Never forget that!
[–]PooPooMeeks20 points21 points22 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Same here girl
[–]saint-jezebelFDS Newbie22 points23 points24 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Never fails <3
[–]guacamole1987FDS Newbie17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I cackled but only because it’s horrifyingly true. Gotta laugh to keep from crying, ya know?
[–]shakethat_milkshakeKINKmeisha™️ on parole16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is why I put all my “building” energy into the women in my life!
[–]marasloveFDS Newbie13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’d rather not 💋
[–]idiopathictendenciesFDS Newbie24 points25 points26 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Accurate AF
[–]matte_personalityFDS Newbie10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A guy I was seeing got stuck in a depressive rut at the beginning of quarantine and I decided to stick by him and nurture him even though everything in me was telling me it wasn’t a good idea. He was so depressed he slept for days and he was simply just waiting to go back home with his family (he lived alone for college), where I hoped he’d be happier and more put together.
Turns out he became even more lazy and distant and every time I called him out, he would accuse me of asking for too much and for never being able to have enough. They never remember the love you put into them when they’re in a dark place because how they perceive you is a reflection of who they are in that period of their life.
[–]starrywinecupFDS Newbie9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ain't it the truth?
[–]smart-tart23FDS Newbie[🍰] 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
😳.... a lot of truth in that
[–]IndependenceSoonFDS Newbie23 points24 points25 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep, so true...
[–][deleted] 23 points24 points25 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep. So true. Loser scrotes.
[–]JessicaRose115 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The audacity
[–]b0mbflower3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Never seen a post that was too relatable
[–]yallloveFDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Narcs gonna narc
PS ladies when you gonna let me comment.
[–]azureangel35FDS Apprentice4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
you need to be assigned flair. but if you've dealt w/a narc you def belong here <3
[–]yallloveFDS Newbie1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, I now have a PhD in narc behavior thanks to one.
[–]AlextheAnalystPickmeisha™️2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I basically bombed this place with comments, then just waited patiently for the mods to do their thing. It was pretty funny, because I suddenly had a zillion replies from here in my inbox, and was like, "Wow! The fds mods actually batch approved everything I said, lol!"
Wow something to look forward to! 😂
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