Is Taylor Swift a “Forever Girlfriend”

Emergency-Feed8216 · 2021-11-14T17:13:14+00:00

Britney finally got free of her father's conservatorship in a saga that began with a terrible marriage. Less than 5% of celeb marriages last more than a decade and often end in scandal. Look at Alice Evans. There's a lot to be cautious about here.

ApartPersonality · 2021-11-14T18:46:29+00:00

Aside from her relationship(s), I think there is FDS value in talking about Taylor’s business acumen and career moves. Even if you’re not a fan of her music, it cannot be denied that she’s good at making money.

drowsypillowprincess · 2021-11-14T19:57:54+00:00

She’s an artist. So her public persona is curated. Plus, I’m sure she wanted to get married at one point because that’s the cultural narrative pushed on all women from birth, but I think her priorities and outlook have drastically changed in the last 2-3 years. Have you ever watched her documentaries? Those gave me a lot of respect for her. The image pushed on us by the media was very different than the woman TS is/was behind closed doors (and even those documentaries are curated; I don’t blame her for guarding the little privacy she has).

I don’t think we can hold TS—a hugely financially and culturally successful pop icon—to the same standards as the average woman. I’d argue she is the exception, not the rule, especially when it comes to dating and marriage.

aluriaphin · 2021-11-14T12:25:02+00:00

Ultra-wealthy women are beyond the purview of Forever GF, they have more to lose than to gain through marriage. As Cher said when her mom asked "when will you find a rich man to marry?" "Mom, I AM a rich man."

(And who prominently featured that quote in a music video? Taylor Swift.)

thinktwiceorelse · 2021-11-14T12:41:27+00:00

I think if celebrity doesn't rush to get married, it's actually a HV move. Those celebs who get married after a month of dating, only to end up divorced in six months are riddiculous.

thewetdog_ · 2021-11-14T11:58:47+00:00

Taylor swift will be worth a billion dollars before she’s 35. She’s absolutely better off never marrying. None of Taylor’s peers are in the same level as her.

This relationship has been super private so Taylor will probably turn up married with a baby. She’s no dummy. Whatever she wears or does in public is curated.

That said, she didn’t seem ti take any crap when she was younger. The reason she had so many boyfriends and so many exes to write songs about is that she dated a lot and had no trouble chucking the men - and blasting them. Nobody gaslight Taylor swift.

These comparisons with super star celebs don’t apply.

engineergorl · 2021-11-15T03:39:47+00:00

Celebrity and wealthy women are in an entirely different realm when it comes to the question of marriage. Quite frankly, most FDS advice about marriage doesn’t really apply to them. FDS advocates marriage as a statement of commitment and, more importantly, a measure of PROTECTION so that your partner will not be able to leave you in the cold suddenly one day. FDS says to never marry down. A woman of Taylor Swift’s wealth and status will find that very hard to do, and marriage is MORE risky. Look at Halle Berry, Kelly Clarkson, Adele, and Britney Spears, who all got screwed over by a bad marriage.

Constant-Wanderer · 2021-11-14T19:54:23+00:00

I work with celebrities regularly…I wouldn’t assign any importance to what little you think you know about them. Their lives aren’t what you think they are.

Plus, comparisons aren’t super healthy. Even if everything we thought about TS were true, it doesn’t matter.

Educational_Pool_635 · 2021-11-14T10:15:17+00:00

I think she's just not interested in marriage. But really who knows, rules are different when you have money and influence.

throwaway8437764 · 2021-11-15T07:07:11+00:00

Glad you posted this because I've also wondered this—especially when I see lots of other Taylor stans praising Joe for being such a great partner simply because he's supportive of her re-recording and re-releasing old songs about past exes. Like... is that not the bare minimum of being a good partner? If a man is insecure about her re-recording old songs about past exes, something she's doing for her career and not because she isn't over them, he's literally just a shitty partner. Supporting her throughout this is the bare minimum. The bar is really in hell for men.

Anyway, I think that Taylor does want to get married. As another commenter mentioned, in I Think He Knows, she's sings "I think he knows he better lock it down, or I won't stick around 'cause the good ones never wait." Also, in Lover, she sings, "I've loved you three summers now, honey, but I want 'em all." So I really don't think it's that she doesn't want to get married.

As for protecting her assets, there are plenty of high-profile celebrities with huge net worths who do get married. So personally, I don't think that's a good argument either.

So that makes me wonder what the hold-up is, seeing as how they've been together for 5 years now and are both in their 30s. I really hope it isn't because Joe is hesitant and that she's a forever girlfriend. Taylor's been through so much with lots of shitty exes, she deserves better than that. 🥺

But I don't know what other explanation there could be. If you think of one, let me know lol

Edit: In what song does she hint at wanting a child?

Technical_Moth248 · 2021-11-14T15:52:31+00:00

I’ve loved her since I was a child and would very much like to see her be happy, but there is something about Joe that does not feel right. I’m not sure that I would say she’s a forever gf because I’m almost positive she will get married (or admit they’ve been married) at some point, maybe after she’s done with the re-recording of her old albums. Like you said, I don’t think the thing that was stopping her is money concerns. Her friends were saying she wanted to marry him in like 2018.

As for the extreme privacy I also find it weird. It probably does work for them but tbh I think it’s had a bad influence on her younger fans. I’ve seen them go wild and talk about how romantic it is because he liked one of her posts 🙄 Obviously you shouldn’t base your ideas around celebrity relationships but they just feel like a particularly low bar. Depending on how accurate Lover’s Joe songs were I just think she loves him more than he does and she also seems to have initiated their relationship (or at least did the bulk of the work when it came to seeing him before they lived together).

DivineGoddess1111111 · 2021-11-14T12:06:35+00:00

My daughter is a huge Swiftie and she didn't like when I questioned if Taylor was a forever girlfriend.

It's true that different rules apply for rich celebrities, they have assets to protect. Taylor is from a country though that upholds prenuptial agreements as binding.

If Joe didn't want to lose her he would put a ring on it. Taylor is from a traditional background and has spoken about wanting marriage and kids.

My daughter and I always say "where is my Joe?" But honestly, Joe is starting to give off LV vibes.

Gourmay · 2021-11-14T17:56:18+00:00

I don’t think when you have that level of fame & fortune, common laws really apply to you. That and as a fan, Taylor, I think, has always gotten a sense pretty quickly of when guys were mucking her about (she was already pretty scathing towards people like John Mayer over ten years ago—and it seems she takes ownership when she screwed up, with Lautner or Hiddleston), seeing the way she mentions Joe, it’s clearly a very different and healthy relationship.

She has also said how exhausted and how misogynistic it is for people to ask her when she's going to have babies. I’d like a child potentially but my career means a lot to me so I get it.

Edit: plus making assumptions about this completely ignores people who have fertility or health issues for example. These are just private matters.

Specific-Composer300 · 2021-11-14T11:28:23+00:00

Yeah I have also been wondering about this. But you can't say anything even SLIGHTLY questioning her relationship online or her stans will attack 😂 Of course she is incredibly wealthy so the financial risks of getting married are much higher for her, but I still think she's the type (as are most women) to want to get married if she feels like she's met the one. I've been a fan since the Fearless Era (not as much nowadays as I used to be) and over the years she's often mentioned marriage and children etc. When she was young she once said she wanted a "football team" of kids, in a Japanese interview years back she said she will get married when she finds the right man and of course she's sung about marriage and growing old together in many of her songs. I mean Paper Rings she wrote specifically for Joe and sings, "I'd marry you with paper rings." In I Think He Knows she sings, "I think he knows he better lock it down or I won't stick around cause good ones never wait."

I definitely think her breakup with Calvin and media scrutiny has her way more private with relationships since she used to post pics of her and Calvin on her insta but none with Joe. When she was younger in an interview with Ellen if I remember correctly she said she didn't like how some celebs were so paranoid about keeping their relationship private as if it's something embarrassing and said how she dated a guy who'd always force her to enter and exit through different doors to him and they could never hold hands in public etc which she didn't like (I think she was referring to Jake). So I think she's changed over the years and become way more private, however I do find it a bit odd Joe never even posts anything in relation to her work, like not even on his story? Like just repost that the new Red album is out or something to show suport since she's posted about his projects in the past.

West-Cook · 2021-11-14T16:52:52+00:00

There’s a theory that I’m pretty sure I believe that Joe and Taylor are in a purely PR relationship and the songs she’s written and attributed to him are for someone else she actually wants to keep secret.

There are a few reasons why I think that theory holds weight, but I’m not gonna dive into them. It’s true she basically bought him a Grammy though. Months after she won album of the year last year, she got him added as a producer on most of the songs on the album, making him eligible to get a Grammy for the album as a producer. Big doubts if this random actor guy has the ability to produce music alongside the likes of the ones she works with. But if he was really a producer, why was he not listed (if even under a pseudonym) in the first place?

That’s the thing that tipped me over into thinking their relationship is a business arrangement, because Taylor Swift is very shrewd and plans things out for years in advance; one of her greatest strengths is her belief and advocacy for artist rights and credits; but her biggest weakness is that she cares a lot about her public image. I can’t imagine that buying a Grammy for someone, thus compromising her artistic integrity, for someone who has build her last few years around re-recording and releasing her entire ten+ year catalog to keep it out of the hands of specific people, is something she would do willingly. But it would make sense if they are a PR relationship and she needs to maintain the image of being in a long term relationship by any means possible.

So, that’s me with my tinfoil hat on. Either I’m right and they’re fake, or she’s the most famous pick me in the world; the first option brings me more comfort.

sikulet · 2021-11-14T10:13:49+00:00

As much as I loved TSwift music in my teen angst dating days, I find myself not loving it ten years after, simply because I am not “there” in the angst anymore. I’m glad that all too well highlighted what narcissism looks like and how young girls can be educated about this mainstream but I seriously wondered tho, for the sake of mental health is she really okay?

You’re talking about rerecording for IP rights. Then we’re making it into a new release. But those memories they are so there, they aren’t like from someone who treated it ten years after. It’s like they were written and played out as if it happened yesterday. For movies 🍿 that’s great. For your mental health, are we really there yet?

So before she even gets married as it’s going 5 years and longer I hope she gets the level of stability to close all past wounds and stop holding on to them. Because it’s one thing to speak out against abuse but it’s another to treat a three month relationship with a production number ten years after.

caprisunday · 2021-11-14T15:52:46+00:00

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Title	Is Taylor Swift a “Forever Girlfriend”
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