Feminists need to understand

FagHatLOL · 2020-05-02T19:16:13+00:00

Feminists act like the average person dismisses rape crimes with “Meh. Boys will be boys. What can you do?”

Biggsy77 · 2020-05-02T18:11:01+00:00

Feminists will never give a charitable interpretation on anything that's said about men or boys. They will always look for the worst.

Causal_Calamity · 2020-05-02T20:41:47+00:00

I fought a losing word battle with a feminist about her views on males. Her conclusion was that men as a class are hateable and that they're responsible for all the misery in the world. Another thing she said is that she assumes any male that approaches her automatically wants to have sex with her AND distrusts anything they have to say.

Imagine being so conceited and being paranoid of someone because they have a penis.

antifeminist3 · 2020-05-02T20:04:07+00:00

The term never had anything to do with girls. It's boys horsing around, playing in puddles.

Feminists claim to be able to read peoples' minds and claim it's all about malintentioned behavior towards women. It's never been about women.

KingSpydig · 2020-05-02T20:11:57+00:00

“Boys will be boys” means play-fighting, wrestling, roughhousing, stuff like that.

They don’t even have to place the phrase in relation to girls at all. It can exist independently of them.

azazelcrowley · 2020-05-03T00:42:14+00:00

The campaign against the statement was started because a lawyer used the term in a defence of a rapist while divorcing it from that context and pretending that's how it's used in general.

It ignores that it's literally the lawyers job to make any argument they can to minimize the harm done by their client. But femnists decided to lie about it because even they have the self-awareness to realize that if they openly took issue with *a lawyer giving a defence* for being "Problematic", people would call them out on it.

So they divorced it from that context and pretended it was just said about rape by some government official.

It'd be like pretending "Well, he had it coming" is a sentiment that society openly tolerates when it comes to murder as opposed to a hail mary sometimes used by defence lawyers. (Not explicitly).

yeahnofap · 2020-05-02T22:46:46+00:00

THANK YOU!!!

I’m a woman and never once have I heard ANYONE say “Boys will be boys” after they hear about a rape. I’ve only ever heard “Boys will be boys” when they’re goofing off, making inappropriate jokes or running around because new flash, being a boy who does boy things doesn’t translate to “I wanna rape women and abuse people” because, double news flash, rape isn’t a man thing!

charge- · 2020-05-02T21:36:18+00:00

Same with the “oh he’s just teasing you because he likes you” being alleged as an approval of verbal and physical abuse by the feminists. Boys and girls tease each other when they like each other. Doesn’t mean when guys get married they beat up or verbally abuse their wives because someone brushed them teasing a girl they were too embarrassed to show they liked them when they were 8.

DoctorForesight · 2020-05-03T01:01:20+00:00

Can you believe all these ten-year-old boys committing sexual assault?

Rose2604 · 2020-05-03T00:39:25+00:00

Probably a stupid question, but what does that phrase apply to? Like boys wrestling? Or boys doing things that are common among other boys? My friends in primary school used to say it everytime one of the boys would get hurt playing football or wrestly another kid to the ground in good fun.

n3miD · 2020-05-03T03:00:48+00:00

When I see the phrase "boys will be boys" I think of my 2 boys going outside clean and coming back in covered in dirt

SamuelJones2152 · 2020-05-02T20:56:12+00:00

"Feminists need to understand..."

When have they ever done that???

hereforsolidarity · 2020-05-02T19:47:41+00:00

They need to, but they won't.

theholdencaulfield_ · 2020-05-02T20:18:28+00:00

Yes, ladies. The world doesn't revolve around you.

Oh wait. They might not be well prepared to accept MGTOW

2020-05-02T23:33:51+00:00

Pick one, hate or understanding.

We all know which one feminists choose.

IronJohnMRA · 2020-05-02T21:26:30+00:00

They know. As usual feminists are trying to conflate something normal about male people with something criminal. They won't stop. The hate feels too good to them.

mrprez180 · 2020-05-03T00:54:33+00:00

Most of the shit they say is based on strawmen, and this is definitely not an exception.

ivanoud · 2020-05-03T01:53:50+00:00

As we all know, feminists will always make it all about them. They like to victimize themselves.

277103 · 2020-05-03T02:40:25+00:00

Why are we even discussing this. As we all know logic is limited but stupidity is infinite. These toxic feminist are in very small numbers but are loudest. They are not happy with their life. Have you seen any happy and fulfilled women spouting such absurdities. No because they don't care and are going on with their life.

2020-05-02T21:31:58+00:00

I don't know about you gentlemen, but I've never known a guy to be accused of sexual assault and have all his friends and family just laugh it off and say, "Boys will be boys'". If I found out my mate sexually assaulted someone, I'd be absolutely horrified. Do they really think we just shrug it off like it's nothing?

Francis_Dollar_Hide · 2020-05-02T20:54:12+00:00

Mostly said by women too.

vinegar-popsicles · 2020-05-03T01:12:39+00:00

Female lurker because I think men are treated unfairly in many cases (especially family court and getting worse sentences...) however I think this should be treated by a case by case situation.

When my brother was going through puberty, he was sneaking into my room at night and feeling me up and videoing me showered and my claims of feeling unsafe was indeed met by the dreaded “boys will be boys” by my father.

He told me I was the alcohol to his addiction and to take it as a compliment so I respectfully disagree with this post.

ThrowawayGhostGuy1 · 2020-05-03T00:28:37+00:00

Feminists took horsing around and pathologized it because they hate boys and want to emasculate them until they’re girls.

helpimnot0kay · 2020-05-03T01:59:50+00:00

lol @ dua lipa’s song

2020-05-03T02:24:40+00:00

That’s what I always assumed. So when people started linking that phrase to sexual assault I was very confused.

J2501 · 2020-05-03T04:08:01+00:00

I've actually witnessed 'boys will be boys' being used to imply homosexuality, at a freaky anime convention. Maybe they thought that went over my head, but I really just didn't care.

mindyabusinesspoepoe · 2020-05-03T07:04:31+00:00

To a feminist, any action a man takes is rape. they can piss off then. get your own food and build your own buildings, you ungrateful cunts.

2020-05-03T07:18:59+00:00

This. So much, this. My son does crazy boy shit that gives me more gray hairs worrying he is going to break yet more bones lmao. :/

Him and his buddies do boy stuff, talk about boy stuff. It’s benign. Shit, it’s beneficial.

LibertySeasonsSam · 2020-05-02T22:17:19+00:00

It's like they are a group that's obsessed with sex and violence. Oh, wait, didn't they say this about men?

regularcomments · 2020-05-02T21:59:52+00:00

I think they understand that, but they actually manipulate to the apolitical people to think society use that phrase in the second definition, not the first one.

giantdwarf111 · 2020-05-02T22:16:04+00:00

Wait they actually think that? Yikes that’s a shame. It’s really sad to think they see us this way. It’s not about oppressing them it’s about both genders getting equal rights and representation in the eyes of the law and in society.

Dindlesmim · 2020-05-03T12:45:13+00:00

This might be quite unpopular, but here goes.

'Boys will be boys' is a phrase which can be harmless, such as rough-housing.

However from working in schools I've seen it used in detremental ways against boys. Used by teachers as reason to not intervene in bullying, or give emotional support to boys who need it. In this way we're teaching boys that 'boys will be boys' means 'boys suck up and deal with it on their own'.

In my opinion this is adding to the unreasonably high male suicide rate and therefore should be taken more seriously than it is. Personally, I'd like to see a stop to this sort of language from professionals for this reason.

For context, I'm a 26yr old female from the UK and I consider myself both a feminist and a men's rights activist.

scaredofshaka · 2020-05-03T08:24:54+00:00

Feminists understand that very well... but they think that the goofing around, if tolerated, will evolve into sexual assault

Viper_NZ · 2020-05-03T09:18:37+00:00

Except when parents use it as an excuse for shitty behaviour.

ShivasKratom3 · 2020-05-03T11:58:49+00:00

I’ve never heard it used in any other way. And honestly I’ve only heard it used when involving SOLELY boys

Men-Are-Human · 2020-05-03T12:52:48+00:00

r/MRAmemes

LemonadeSh4rk · 2020-05-03T13:20:28+00:00

I hate this phrase.

2020-05-03T15:41:08+00:00

reminder that feminists say "men are trash"

Baconbeatseverything · 2020-05-03T17:01:13+00:00

I hope the 300lbs blue haired brigade doesn’t find this post.

The_Best_01 · 2020-05-03T18:47:37+00:00

A blindingly obvious statement, but it's not surprising those idiots don't get this simple fact.

meggamatty64 · 2020-05-03T19:10:29+00:00

Boys will be boys refers to suplex if your friend into a pool not breaking the law

supermarioplush220 · 2020-05-04T03:17:53+00:00

One time their was this girl that said something sexist about boys and everybody in the room except me and the few boys in the room agreed with her. And my grandma the other day was saying multiple sexist things about boys like girls mature much sooner ( says the person who says sexual things allot and gets mad at her husband over little reasons.)

missvioletj · 2020-05-09T08:13:32+00:00

I wouldnt say that people use the phrase to justify rape but I've absolutely seen "Boys will be boys" used to shrug off sexual harrassment and inappropriate behavior

elliotgallahan · 2020-09-16T10:28:52+00:00

that’s funny because when I had a boy shove his hand down my shirt in 7th grade and when I pushed him off and told him to stop, and his group of friends proceeded to push me onto the floor and hold me down so he could kiss me, my principle said, and I quote; “you know how boys can be, especially around a girl as pretty as you. boys will be boys.” but. ya know. that doesn’t happen

olaisk · 2020-05-03T03:46:58+00:00

It shocks feminists that men actually care about sexual assault and we want to stop it.

zeerust2000 · 2020-05-03T09:40:36+00:00

The only people who actually say that are Mums, when their 7 year old comes in the house with mud all over him. It's one of many feminist urban myths.

UbiquitousWobbegong · 2020-05-03T07:00:39+00:00

I think the difference between "goofing around* and "sexual assault" is a very blurred line, and that's the real problem. For one woman, if she finds the guy attractive, he could throw her up against a wall and feel her up, and shed think it was hot. For a different woman, asking her out on a date in an elevator might be sexual harassment.

Men can't know where the line is if it changes based on subjective criteria. That has always been the problem with accusations of sexual assault. And it's why many men have just decided to stop spending time alone with women altogether, something I've seen complained about by lefty women quite a bit.

In comparison, I've never once seen someone justify rape as "boys being boys". It's a complete strawman of an argument.

politits · 2020-05-02T21:32:13+00:00

No, people constantly try to use that as an excuse for assault and harassment. “Just boys being boys” “they didn’t mean anything by it,” “stop being so uptight.”

This isn’t a rare event at all, it’s an extremely common response when men are caught violating other people’s sense of bodily autonomy and are trying to avoid getting in trouble for it. It’s like when the president admitted to assaulting women on tape and then dismissed it as “locker room talk.”

Romane_PaulNibaa · 2020-05-03T02:50:23+00:00

No I'm pretty sure my uncle said boys will be boys after he found out that my cousin was a serial rapist from the ages of 14 to 19.

Please-No-EDM · 2020-05-02T23:03:44+00:00

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/24257791_Boys_Will_Be_Boys_and_Other_Gendered_Accounts_An_Exploration_of_Victims'_Excuses_and_Justifications_for_Unwanted_Sexual_Contact_and_Coercion

Pake1000 · 2020-05-03T00:20:34+00:00

Trump excitedly talked about sexual assaulting women and people wrote it off as "boys will be boys" and "just locker room talk." So yes, people will often write off sexual assault as "boys being boys."

toomanymarbles83 · 2020-05-03T01:35:23+00:00

Unless you're a judge letting a rich dude's son off the hook for assault because he 'has a bright future ahead of him".

WeenieHutJr · 2020-05-02T21:22:29+00:00

okay but "boys will be boys" is often used to defend actions by people that have often done pretty messed up things. wasn't this type of reasoning used by trump and trump people to defend his talk of unconsensually grapping women "by the pussy"? oh its just " locker room talk"? the fact is, it is used to talk about sexual assault. feminists arent griping about the phrase cause they think its used to defend people who have done shitty things, it actually has been used this way...

adelie42 · 2020-05-03T00:23:04+00:00

Why are we gatekeeping words here?

It's not like nobody means that when they say it, otherwise why mention it?

People could also just as well mean neither of those things things.

Like, if someone says it in the context of sexual assault, they are likely excusing it imagine some blame sharing. If the context is goofing around, then yeah, probably nothing sexual.

That said, this post would make a lot more sense of one were trying to argue that in the context of sexual assault that saying "boys will be boys" is nkt excusing the behavior, then there would be something to debate.

But just saying "nobody ever meant that" is silly.

CMV.

Title	Feminists need to understand
Author	thanks_man12
Upvotes	4800
Comments	210
Date	May 2, 2020 6:06 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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