Truly offensive article from Jezebel

Kuonji · 2011-10-06T18:29:52+00:00

I like how one of the comments calls out their bigotry, and the response given is basically "Well, men are a privileged group so it's okay to make offensive generalizations about them".

thelordpsy · 2011-10-06T18:43:54+00:00

Dudes, dudes, relax, I'm totally j/king you — you'll still out earn women by like 75 percent.

Links to a study showing women earn 75% of what men do, or men earn 33% more. Totally false, but it brings to mind: http://www.dilbert.com/strips/comic/1998-03-17/?CmtOrder=Rating&CmtDir=ASC

cruzian831 · 2011-10-06T19:55:05+00:00

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TheUsualChaos · 2011-10-06T18:31:02+00:00

text? Don't want to give them ad-money by clicking it

skier69 · 2011-10-06T20:00:26+00:00

Chances are that if you're a woman and you're in college and you work really hard to boost your GPA, turn up regularly at all of your extra-curricular activities, and generally try to make as good on your crazy expensive investment as you can, there's a college man out there playing the latest iteration of Madden football and totally not giving a shit.

and chances are that if you're a man in college, and you bust your ass to turn in all your assignments on time while working 20 hours a week, there's a college woman out there showing up half an hour late to all her lectures and using her dad's credit card for frappucinos, getting plastered, and shopping online

btw one of my childhood girl-friends liked this. (square eyes face)

ultramagnum · 2011-10-06T19:16:41+00:00

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throwaway6237 · 2011-10-06T20:00:57+00:00

The common saying "Don't feed the trolls" should be applied to everyone everywhere, not just on message boards. They're clearly trying to be offensive just to get clicks for ad revenue.

Offensive_Brute · 2011-10-06T20:24:28+00:00

Seriously, what is the point of even going to that website. Thats like being black and going to stormfront.org. If you go there expecting not to be offended you should have internet privileges revoked for life.

MikeFromBC · 2011-10-06T23:39:49+00:00

Black guy here. Black people are not under privileged as it says in the comments. Even if we were, that doesn't give us the right to offend other people like that

NikkoKitty · 2011-10-06T21:29:20+00:00

Ah, Jezebel... There attempts at journalism couldn't be any more yellow if you peed on their servers.

Unenjoyed · 2011-10-06T20:11:42+00:00

It's pointless to be offended at fully unattributed data and the conclusions then drawn.

MikeFromBC · 2011-10-06T23:57:47+00:00

This doesn't offend me.

What pisses me off the most is when feminists over react to shit like this. For example, if a feminist hears someone say, "Men are better drivers." they would probably flip. But who gives a shit? How does it affect your life in any way? So what if some people think women are worse drivers. Is it somehow going to affect the way you drive? No.

That's what I think about some of these reactions. Who cares. It's a stupid study with a pointless conclusion. So what if more men are lazy. Will it affect your life at all? If you're not lazy than the article has nothing to do with you.

2011-10-06T21:20:15+00:00

Why yes, I WILL take part in non-academic extracurricular activities, and enjoy my short 4 years in what may be the most free and enjoyable part of my life. Sorry if it makes me look lazy, ignorant or entitled.

rainbowdolphin · 2011-10-07T00:23:46+00:00

Quick everyone, drive more traffic towards them! I'm sure Gawker will hate that you were successfully baited.

SnakeJG · 2011-10-07T02:25:34+00:00

If you read the source article, it is actually very good and not bigoted at all.

It is amazing how Jezebel can take such an even handed, interesting academic article, and turn it into crap.

memymineown · 2011-10-07T07:45:38+00:00

Let's think about this like a feminist would.

The test scores are equal but the GPAs are not. Therefore....

Discrimination. There is a vast collegiate conspiracy to give men lower grades than women.

demiurgency · 2011-10-07T18:34:59+00:00

Same old feminist ideology never changes:

Men outperform women (ex: alleged wage gap): Cause must attributable to institutionalized sexism, or cultural / learning bias. Implying that cause might be related to biological differences, or personal choices / habits is decried as misogyny and must be categorized as hate speech. Immediate social action is called for to correct the imbalance.

Women outperform men (ex: early childhood education, college GPA): It's a clear sign that women excel where men fail. This must obviously be caused by biological differences between genders, or behaviorally-based because men are entitled and lazy. No need for social correction, this is a triumph for women everywhere.

AnnArchist · 2011-10-06T18:44:33+00:00

God damnit, I gave them a click.

Leprecon · 2011-10-06T20:31:36+00:00

I love how they call it a "study" when it's just an article written by some broad.

However, consider the following, which reflect conclusions from national data and are supported by research at my own institution

My, that is some hard hitting data!

SlimThugga · 2011-10-06T21:42:31+00:00

Those comments, wow...

pipechang · 2011-10-06T22:01:35+00:00

What I hate the most are the comments actually, they bitch about how the world works without actually doing something about it.

There are more laws and social movements supporting women than men, still women think they are somehow restricted from expressing themselves.

PeanutCheeseBar · 2011-10-06T22:25:37+00:00

I was working full time, going to college full time, and raising a kid born from when the girl I was seeing cheated on me with another man and I took her back; I also supported all three of us on my income when I was finished college and started my career.

Yeah, I suppose that makes me pretty lazy.

TheLotusEater · 2011-10-06T22:55:36+00:00

I wonder what would happen if we all spent less time reading stupid articles like this and spent more time celebrating the accomplishments of notable men both living and dead... The guy who just won the Nobel in medicine comes to mind.

Go to Wikipedia.org sometime and hit the random page button. In a few clicks some guy who did something great for mankind will show up. Make a post about him instead of linking to vapid, banal articles like this one and we'll all be better off.

linearThinker · 2011-10-07T07:44:33+00:00

Study finds women learn less in college

Findings are based on results of achivement tests given to 19,000 students at 56 four-year colleges and universities across the country.

By MARY CHALLENDER Register Staff Writer 10/31/2001

Women may attend college in greater numbers than men, but they apparently learn one-third less, according to a recent study conducted by researchers at the universities of Iowa, Missouri and Florida.

The reasons for the disparity still need to be determined, said co-author Ernest Pascarella, who holds the Mary Louise Petersen Chair in Higher Education at the University of Iowa.

"It's kind of disconcerting to think women may not get as much out of college as men," he said.

The study contains some good news, too, Pascarella noted, especially for parents who can't afford to send their high school senior to Harvard or Princeton. According to the research, there seems to be little correlation between how exclusive a college is and how much students learn.

"You're as likely to get a good education at a less selective school as a more selective school," Pascarella said.

Pascarella conducted the study, which appears in the most recent issue of The Journal of Higher Education, with two University of Iowa doctoral students, Christopher Pierson and Lamont Flowers, now an assistant professor of education at the University of Florida.

They based their findings on results of achievement tests given to 19,000 college students at 56 four-year colleges and universities across the country.

The data was collected between 1993 and 1998 by Steven Osterlind, a professor of educational psychology at the University of Missouri, while he was developing an achievement test called the College Basic Academics Subjects Examination.

"We took the data and re-analyzed it," Pascarella said.

The study began as a look at how much students learn between their freshman and senior years, but Pascarella said that turned out to be the least important of their findings.

The researchers were surprised to find that although variables such as academic ability, race or college grades didn't seem to have much of an effect on how much students learned, gender did.

While men experienced an increase of approximately 27 to 32 percentile points on their test scores between their freshmen and senior years of college, for women the improvement was only 19 to 23 percentile points, Pascarella said.

That meant the women had apparently learned only two-thirds as much as the men.

Pascarella said the difference could be partially explained by the fact that more men tend to major in math and science, two of the four test subjects. The study didn't take into account courses taken, work experience or other activities.

"But we also found differences across the board which are harder to explain," he said.

Some educators have interpreted the study as evidence that institutions of higher learning are structured toward masculine rather than feminine learning styles but "that's a big leap from our findings," Pascarella said.

"Typically before I believe almost anything in the social sciences, I'd like to see it replicated," he said.

The study's other major finding - that the selectivity of a school has little to do with learning - is consistent with previous studies, Pascarella said. He advises students and parents to use other factors in choosing a college.

"Picking a school just because it's very hard to get into tells you very little about the quality of education you'll get there," he said.

jordansaladi · 2011-10-06T21:18:44+00:00

God forbid a man wrote that about women.. LAW SUIT LAW SUIT LAW SUIT.

Arxl · 2011-10-07T00:31:53+00:00

Fuck what she thinks. Honestly if you believe her dribble then you should go back to school.

2011-10-07T00:53:26+00:00

Jezebel is blocked in my hosts file for a reason......

KMFCM · 2011-10-07T01:49:36+00:00

and the next minute, they'll claim to be all about video games.

2011-10-07T02:56:39+00:00

They are such fucking hypocrites.

2011-10-07T13:56:31+00:00

I'd be offended if I didn't spend all day yesterday skipping class and playing call of duty, hell I'm skipping class right now.

Wanhope · 2011-10-07T18:05:33+00:00

Being offended

However, it is a women-only college. Bahaha.

I just love the idea of how well it would go over if there were any men-only colleges....(maybe there are?)

thedurka · 2011-10-06T21:57:46+00:00

As a writer for Gawker Media, I'm sure it's true for him.

Yatty33 · 2011-10-06T23:58:17+00:00

I wouldn't know if I agree or disagree with this article because there are so few women in the mechanical engineering department for me to use at a standard.

Women, why you no math?

kittenkat4u · 2011-10-07T11:06:31+00:00

WTF did i just read? i feel like need to bleach my brain now. what vile piece of bigotry. i know many men who have gone to university and sure theyve played sports and video games but its usually after theyve spent 40 hrs a week at school, 40 hrs a week working thier asses off at a crappy job just so they can go to school and like 20-40 hrs a week doing homework. i dont care if your a man or woman, if you do that you deserve to kick back, relax and enjoy yourself. oh, and if less men are going into the teaching field its because of women.crazy feminists have gotten them so scared of being accused of being pedophiles for even speaking to a child that they shy away from it and i cant say i blame them. who wants to deal with that kind of shit. which is a shame really because one of the best teachers i ever had was a male. no one should ever be ashamed/embarrassed by their own gender but these women just make me shake my head in disgust...i apologize for my gender. i do hope you realize we arent all like this...that some of are really decent people who dont think like this. and the comments on the page made me rage...men are entiltled. my ass. i would have to say more women feel they are entitled then men do. is this site always this way(today was the first time i heard of it) cause i will never read it again unless i feel like smashing my computer to bits.

sempire · 2011-10-06T17:42:45+00:00

It's ok. That blog is for retarded lesbians anyways.

Scandinavian_Avenger · 2011-10-06T20:29:08+00:00

When the prize of sex is lowered, why give a damn?

Title	Truly offensive article from Jezebel
Author	shostyscholar
Upvotes	93
Comments	107
Date	October 6, 2011 5:41 PM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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