US Passes Bill To Automatically Register Young Men for the Draft

jessi387 · 2024-06-16T14:13:10+00:00

Yet trying to get a bill passed to improve educational outcomes for boys have been impossible

djc_tech · 2024-06-16T16:00:19+00:00

Anyone who has military related PTSD and is scarred will tell you this isn’t a game, it’s real life with real consequences. I used to be super patriotic, not anymore. These people don’t have your best interests at heart, remember that when the beat the war drums and start shouting about your solemn duty to uphold “freedom” in some distant part of the world where they don’t like us anyways.

Latter-Champion551 · 2024-06-16T14:26:37+00:00

If they ask you to die for them, say no

Remember… Imprisonment is still better than death

LaserNebula986 · 2024-06-16T13:27:35+00:00

So much for equality, I should die in a ditch whilst my female counterparts are in the clubs and getting their backs blown out. Fml

espherem · 2024-06-16T15:01:45+00:00

Do not fight to protect feminism. When you will return, the weak men who sent you will double down on feminist policies.

PotatoeyCake · 2024-06-16T15:42:39+00:00

I'm not dying for this country. Hell no. I'm telling them straight.

Momoshikisenpai · 2024-06-16T14:55:36+00:00

Yeah fuck this

ExperientialDepth · 2024-06-16T14:32:03+00:00

That’s scary

Friendly_Might_1348 · 2024-06-16T15:27:12+00:00

Another case of women 'being oppressed' for not being mandatorily drafted like men

Rogue387 · 2024-06-16T14:36:29+00:00

It's 2024 we wouldn't want males to keep all that privilege for themselves. There is absolutely no defensible reason a draft should be gender based. To do that would totally undermine the many years of progress that has been made to attain a truly equal society.

Bewpadewp · 2024-06-16T16:43:48+00:00

weird that women don't want to be drafted, what happened to wanting equality?

kkkan2020 · 2024-06-16T13:54:43+00:00

i guess the selective service system failed?

this draft thing is bs.

1.) we forgot everything we learned in vietnam if you're going to draft people for bs wars they're going to revolt. there ain't gonna be another ww2 where it's a crusade because people aren't that stupid anymore

2.) 23% of Americans ages 17–24 were eligible for military service. the us has around 42 million people that are 17-24 so max your pool of draftees will be 9.62 million and thats if we take boys and girls. if it's just boys your pool of qualified draftees is 4.8 million.

let's get real here there are many ways to get out of the draft without becoming a mark on your permanent record.

Claiming conscientious objector status on the basis of sincerely held religious or ethical beliefs. Claiming a student deferment, when one is in school primarily in order to study and learn. Claiming a medical or psychological problem, if the purported health issue is genuine and serious. with as many people today having some kind of mental illness i think the pooler of draftees would be even smaller than what the army said it is.

DifficultPapaya3038 · 2024-06-16T15:25:48+00:00

Wonder how long it’s going to take for other western countries to adopt this.

safetaco · 2024-06-16T18:40:49+00:00

War must be nearer than we think.

LowLifeExperience · 2024-06-16T18:48:55+00:00

We are the providers of equality, not participants.

disayle32 · 2024-06-16T17:36:00+00:00

Remember, fellas, a male only draft is a violation of our 14th amendment right to equal protection under the law. If they actually try to activate the draft, we can register as conscientious objectors on those grounds.

Bouxxi · 2024-06-16T18:17:26+00:00

Well, time for my fellow americans to identifie as woman

And also to register their son as female, laugh with the son when he receives a letter saying miss,and at his 18 birthday say that he can change is sex if he want to join the military

harleypig · 2024-06-16T22:13:03+00:00

Why does an article that has nothing to do with women and doesn't mention them at all have a picture of a woman at the top?

chef_reggie · 2024-06-16T16:30:18+00:00

What happened to equity? What is a woman?

Koush · 2024-06-16T20:58:31+00:00

"Rep. Chrissy Houlahan led the selective service measure"

Trust a woman to lead the bill to ensure young men sign up to the draft.

""By using available federal databases, the [Selective Service] agency will be able to register all of the individuals required and thus help ensure that any future military draft is fair and equitable," Houlahan said during debate last month, according to Defense News."

Ah yes, sound fair and equitable to you guys?

Falchion_Alpha · 2024-06-16T17:30:53+00:00

I thought women were equal to men, they should be automatically register to be drafted as well

esteban1337 · 2024-06-16T18:37:12+00:00

Feminists: I sleep.

ExpertBad400 · 2024-06-16T17:05:05+00:00

Guessing they want to tie down the illegals. Or they are predicting a lot of young men simply wont register.

TheSilverShade · 2024-06-16T22:51:20+00:00

The fact that we got the news this weekend is disgusting. Really shows how they think men are expandable.

It's like they're saying " Happy Fathers Day y'all. Now go die for your country !"

BodyshotBoy · 2024-06-16T22:30:54+00:00

At least I can shoot myself in training

wilsonreeves · 2024-06-17T01:01:56+00:00

True story. In 2005 beginning my senior year in college I had my Federal Student loans suspended because I did not sign up for Selective Service. In 2005 I was 45 years old non traditional student , Veteran from the USAF of 11 years. That night I went home a signed up for the draft. Hahaha. Got my loans restored.

Big_Sprinkles9139 · 2024-06-16T19:39:20+00:00

I read a meme/article, that said that the oligarchy was also trying to get women in the draft. You know, that equality stuff.

Street_Conflict_9008 · 2024-06-16T20:41:04+00:00

What we are seeing is an escalation, possible WW3 is closer than we think.

PubicFigure · 2024-06-17T01:33:35+00:00

Where's my body my rights crew?

Imoldok · 2024-06-16T19:05:09+00:00

Saw someone is introducing something that will get women into the draft as well.

Acceptable-Builder73 · 2024-06-16T19:40:14+00:00

I thought all men at the age of 18 were already registered in the draft… like that’s been a thing forever

igloohavoc · 2024-06-16T19:51:34+00:00

What about young women?

I feel it is disrespectful to females if they are excluded

True-Lychee · 2024-06-16T20:01:43+00:00

Wasn't there a proposal to get women added a couple of years ago? What happened to that?

Jaded_Permit_7209 · 2024-06-17T03:37:49+00:00

Feminists: Nobody's getting conscripted you paranoid incels!

Alright. Then why are they passing bills automatically registering us? If it's just an old formality or whatever the fuck those mouth-breathing morons seem to think it is, why are they tightening the screws on the process?

Texan2116 · 2024-06-16T17:02:22+00:00

There is simply no way that they could truly implement a draft these days. The riots would not be worth it, and the lack of support as well.

titanicboi1 · 2024-06-16T23:17:06+00:00

Im not dying for this country

Professional-Lab-157 · 2024-06-17T01:51:16+00:00

We need to have women get drafted too. It's their feminist duty to serve just like men, right?

redditsucksFJB · 2024-06-17T02:17:20+00:00

So apparently, These kind of bills also applied to trans women. LGBTQ activists and left wingers are strangely quiet about this, Eh?

Glum-One816 · 2024-06-17T03:10:05+00:00

Absolutely B.S. They want to play this Ukraine and Russia mobilization crap. We have to fight back.

Modernhomesteader94 · 2024-06-16T23:18:58+00:00

Like fuck I’d go die for my country. If hell comes to my door step I’ll start blasting but I’m not leaving my home. My son isn’t going to fight a war for anyone either.

Send in the strong independent women and the politicians who started this bullshit.

OkSundae3514 · 2024-06-16T22:08:18+00:00

I made a comment the other day in a similar thread saying I thought women should get drafted too, and this morning I got a message saying my comment has been removed, and that I’m receiving a warning and could be banned from Reddit.

Tybackwoods00 · 2024-06-17T01:55:37+00:00

Well boys I already did my time. Good luck in the war

Asif_Minhas · 2024-06-17T04:33:18+00:00

What happens if you dodge the draft?

Lurkay1 · 2024-06-17T04:58:29+00:00

Doesn’t the senate also have to vote on it as well as Biden’s signature? In the article it just says the House of Representatives passed it.

Coastal_wolf · 2024-06-17T05:27:59+00:00

This sucks. Hope there isn’t another draft for a long time. If there is, they won’t find me.

WhatAFinding · 2024-06-17T07:21:02+00:00

Are we going to see demonstrations and riots on the streets from women fighting for equality?

wordjedi · 2024-06-16T18:50:45+00:00

Don't worry NEETs. Too many tattoos, obesity, substance abuse problems, and psychological issues to take just anybody, last I heard

ALegendsTale · 2024-06-16T15:26:48+00:00

I hate to say it, but this kind of makes sense. Every young man will probably need to register almost regardless of their circumstances. It's required for a lot of things in early life like having a drivers license, or getting federal/state funding for school, etc.

This would just to make that process more fluid, and not require anything on the part of the person they subject this on. It's similar to how we need to do taxes, despite the IRS already having an idea of what we owe.

Regardless, I am of the opinion that conscription should be illegal in a free country. Especially, sexist conscription.

Extreme-Wrongdoer-85 · 2024-06-17T07:56:34+00:00

Say you identify as a woman. Use their own logic against them, that simple really.

SchrodingersRapist · 2024-06-16T22:19:45+00:00

A lot of you are worried about equality. I'm worried about what this actually says about expectations of impending conflict requiring reinstituting the draft.

elebrin · 2024-06-16T22:28:33+00:00

The reality is that even if there WAS a draft, most young men in the US would fail the physical. We are too fat and weak.

Want to not go to war? Enjoy your 20s, put down the steaks and beer, get to where you will fail a physical but where you can still get around.

Once you hit 35 you are pretty safe from conscription, so that's when you get on a proper diet and exercise and start taking care of your body. There will be some damage done, but you'll be fine.

I was fucking PARANOID of a draft, I turned 18 in 2002 and we were just starting to go to war with Iraq. I gained about 100lbs through college and was fat enough to insta-fail any physical. The war ended, I hit 35, I lost all the weight, I hit the gym, now I am a good 145lbs and fit as a fiddle. I do miss having a legendary alcohol tolerance though.

rabel111 · 2024-06-16T23:09:05+00:00

If you are a young American man, drafted into the military, that woman fighting next to you is not your brother. They are not fighting with you because they were press-ganged into service. They exercised a choice, a freedom denied to you because of your sex. They can leave at any time, another choice denied to you.

When the going gets hard, and the metal and blood mingle, remember who has your back. If they are a brother, they are there just like you, and will fight, just like you. If they are a woman, who knows what their choice will be?

kaisear · 2024-06-17T03:08:29+00:00

Don't feel you need to be patriotic. You will regret it. Let me explain. When you served and come back home, you will not be greeted like a hero. However, if the country is unavoidably forced to join a war, you will be the first to be enlisted. Ask yourself, where were you on Memorial Day?

wshyang · 2024-06-17T09:07:43+00:00

Better to carry lead on you at all times and if the system pigs come at you take a few down together with you

kuzism · 2024-06-17T09:13:41+00:00

But, but, but Ukraine !

want-to-say-this · 2024-06-17T12:40:46+00:00

Is this just automating the registration for the “Selective Service” that all men over 18 have to do?

asparaguswalrus683 · 2024-06-17T14:21:13+00:00

Also includes a provision for adding women to the Selective Service. Not sure why the reporting has been so one-sided over the last couple days: https://www.armed-services.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/fy25_ndaa_executive_summary.pdf

Mechamiclas · 2024-06-17T14:25:51+00:00

Is there anyone who will try to undo this bill? If the politicians who wanted this bill are so war-hungry then why don't they go over and fight their pointless conflict instead?

BreakinLiberty · 2024-06-17T14:32:15+00:00

So not for women? Thought we were equal?

Temporary-Twist-9348 · 2024-06-17T14:46:46+00:00

What about young women? Don’t they want equality on this one? Will they fight for it?

Rei_LovesU · 2024-06-17T16:11:25+00:00

id rather go out on my own terms than die fighting for some stupid cause in another country. fuck that.

Serious_Eggplant8792 · 2024-06-17T16:46:25+00:00

The NDAA for US military also included women yo be included in the military . 2021 2022 all had that some were even passed . But no implementation . Dont worry for now , there is still the senate it has to pass , and it is part of the NDAA which tells woman to be included in the selective service as well . https://www.timesnownews.com/world/us/us-news/selective-service-women-registrations-proposed-men-to-be-automatically-drafted-article-111011732/amp . Also correct me if I am wrong but did selective service already had something like imprisonment if you dont register . What this is doing is taking your power away of civil disobedience

Quiet-Invite-7540 · 2024-06-17T17:33:16+00:00

guess too many men are not going to college anymore because if you go and get government funds you have to sign up.

DrewYetti · 2024-06-17T20:15:42+00:00

The government and society allow feminists to disrespect, demonise, devalue and dehumanise men and all of the sudden they can force men to fight for them and expect men to comply? Fuck right off!

tallcan710 · 2024-06-17T22:32:55+00:00

Does it apply to the children of the 1% or can they get away with just letting the poors die so they can establish banks and sell off resources when we invade

x994whtjg · 2024-06-17T22:43:04+00:00

Title is misleading. The House passed this bill (only one of the two chambers in Congress, for all you non-yanks). The Senate (the other chamber) still has to pass it, but, it could just sit there forever (if they don’t hold a vote on it); who knows. However, if both chambers pass it, then the President has to sign it for it to become law. Also, I don’t actually hate this bill all that much. You have to sign up for selective service (the draft) at 18 anyway, and there are harsh penalties for failing to do so (fines, jail time, etc.). This just streamlines the process and prevents dumb people who forget to sign up from being punished. Don’t get me wrong I absolutely abhor the idea and scenario of a draft but yeah that’s the reality of this headline

Enough-Staff-2976 · 2024-06-18T00:52:09+00:00

Dodge the draft by going to the merchant marines.

LopsidedDatabase8912 · 2024-06-16T18:47:28+00:00

Not me, who knows that a three year national service requirement for men tied to ~$1MM worth of benefits is the best thing for the US.

Tachyonzero · 2024-06-16T21:42:58+00:00

You are late, they are already doing this however only 41 US states, four territories in Washington DC automatically registers when applying drivers license, state IDs, learners permit, and federal student aid. They use these criteria because those people are willing able bodies with high probability of no disabilities, and certain disqualifications.

MissSnuggleBunny · 2024-06-16T22:45:01+00:00

Isn’t world war 3 going to be a cyber war? They will use drones and machines that can be controlled from afar? That’s of course IF there is a third world war.

Key-Pomegranate-3507 · 2024-06-16T15:47:29+00:00

I really can’t see them implementing the draft again. There would be too much pushback and conflict today is done mostly remotely and with technology. There’s not a need for millions of ground soldiers anymore. Just countries firing rockets at each other.

Gullible_Driver8487 · 2024-06-16T20:58:37+00:00

I signed the card I got in the mail on my 18th birthday to register along with registering to vote. Then I just up and joined the Marine Corps anyway. Good times.

Fast_Investigator_11 · 2024-06-17T00:27:23+00:00

I have not found a single sane comment. This just makes it so the government does not slap a 5 year prison sentence and $250,000 fine on someone for not doing paperwork. It does not conscript anyone and it does not widen the demographic that would get conscripted. If you have US Citizenship they already know who you are, but now you don’t have to waste your time when you turn 18 filling out paperwork.

I_Aint_No_Punk_Bitch · 2024-06-17T00:23:02+00:00

It's not law. Conservatives want this because they want civil war, martial law, and more bullshit invasions. They want to be like Russia. They are preparing for Project 2025

Find the politicians on your area that support this and vote against them in every election. Harass them with emails and postcards, and donate and canvas for the opposition.

Otherwise, you're letting this happen.

If they wanted women drafted, they would. But they need women giving birth to more cannon fodder and meat for the capitalist grindstone that keep the rich able to pay their way out of being drafted.

It's always part of a bigger plan. This isn't a men's rights violation, the women are meant to be cattle.

This is class war. Plain and simple.

The wealthy don't get drafted.

BlueThespian · 2024-06-17T14:14:06+00:00

It’s happening, they are prepping for conflict.

Edit: People get one thing wrong about patriarchy, it was not conceived for men to have rights, it was conceived to make strong men. So patriarchy LITERALLY wants you to be strong and fight for your country.

SnooStrawberries620 · 2024-06-17T06:10:14+00:00

So you realize that one of the supporters of this bill tabled the same bill directed at women in 2021, right? It would look pretty stupid to have commented without reading that part. She’s also an Air Force Vet. This bill contained amendments further removed the rights of women and transgender persons to agency over their own bodies. Who exactly is it that’s being picked on here again?

SnooStrawberries620 · 2024-06-17T06:23:22+00:00

Ah yes, the illiterati strike again. Don’t say women don’t try … men don’t listen. https://houlahan.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=2272

HMikeeU · 2024-06-16T17:35:31+00:00

Forced military service for men is a patriarchal concept.

OvrHorizon · 2024-06-16T19:01:54+00:00

As a man, we biologically are physically stronger than women, so I don't see the problem with this bill.

US Passes Bill To Automatically Register Young Men for the Draft

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Of course it's not new.

It's just time for the bubble to burst again.

Title	US Passes Bill To Automatically Register Young Men for the Draft
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Date	June 16, 2024 1:18 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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