Don’t hate the player, hate the game

Aafan_Barbarro · 2023-09-07T09:20:47+00:00

I think people already hate the game more than players.

Hellknightx31 · 2023-09-07T11:45:07+00:00

So TRP/MGTOW opens men's eyes and makes them aware of women's hypergamy, especially in the West. Yeah, it's not new that women would go for the hotter guys and the ones with the most resources. However, we were ignorant or had hope. TRP/MGTOW corrects that and informs men to just focus on improving their lives. Hence more men are leaving the dating market or going overseas.

Odd-Diet6704 · 2023-09-07T14:18:54+00:00

The point is in nature the males that weren't picked did not have to support the females and children. If the female couldn't take care of her offspring they died. If all undesirable males didn't have to support this society that says they are worthless there would be nothing to complain about.

LoopyPro · 2023-09-07T11:34:34+00:00

That's already the case. Getting resentful and hateful towards women is the individual's choice, not something that RP told them to. The message of RP has never been about hating women, but rather about accepting them for what they are and what they cannot be. RP is about exchanging notes and using information to navigate dating and increase your own chances. RP is supposed to be a toolbox. What individuals choose to do with those tools is up to themselves.

LoneStranger87 · 2023-09-07T14:50:40+00:00

Ok that's fine but do you say the same thing to women who are at physical biological disadvantage to men and get attacked and robbed etc etc? Those women should not hate men (the players) but should instead turn their hate towards nature (the game)

timspacewarper · 2023-09-07T09:36:48+00:00

If you're RP aware, you already know this - Rule Zero. Adapt and keep morality out of it.

Happy_Nuclear_End · 2023-09-07T15:11:09+00:00

The player is the one who enable the game because he see benefits on it so no, blame the players as much you do the game.

RepresentativeBook62 · 2023-09-07T16:50:25+00:00

Nah. Learn to love the game. I bet 60% of these guys could fix a big part of their problems by just going out to venues and consistently approaching women, talking to women, getting to know women as individuals and humans instead of reading generalized nonsense online about women.

I'm sorry there is no auto-aim hack that lets men go from zero to hero. Just like any other game you gotta put the hours in to git gud.

That means approaching and socializing with lots of women. Then you learn to live the game.

HighestTierMaslow · 2023-09-07T14:43:25+00:00

We have twice as many female ancestors due to war and dangerous things men did, not because of dating behaviors.

bottleblank · 2023-09-07T10:19:13+00:00

Except we no longer live in nature. Again it's the typical Darwinian approach which makes no sense in the modern world. We have police forces for protection. Most of us don't need to work gruelling manual jobs, to the point where we're going to look like athletic or muscular hunters and builders. We have modern medicine and climate control.

In the modern world, value is more likely to come from education and intellectual investment, from numbers in a digital bank account, you can't see those things. I've spent my whole life dedicating myself to becoming good at what I do, which got me a degree and a job. Even non-academic skilled trades, it's not unusual to see an overweight plumber (for example, I'm not hating on plumbers) with his ass crack sticking out of his jeans, he's not a specimen of mammalian perfection either, but he's still probably making fairly decent money.

I don't look like a hunter-gatherer because that's not what I have to do to survive. I work on a computer, my brains are my strength, I do things (as a hobby and a profession) which most people wouldn't have a clue how to do, and that's worth something in the society we live in now. Sure, I acknowledge that I could be healthier, slimmer, fitter, and I'm making efforts to do that, but none of it dictates whether I'm a successful, capable human being in the environment I exist within.

We are disconnected from any historical sense of fitness for humanity. Men and women. It's no different from... I don't know, Mary from HR, or whatever. That's all she's doing too. She's sitting at her desk all day, pushing paper and pressing buttons, she's no better than I am in terms of what would make a primate fit to thrive in a natural habitat. We're both doing what enables us to eat, stay warm/cool, and generally survive in 2023.

Do I care that she's not with the other women in the community cooking dinner for everyone? Or out foraging for herbs? Or hunting rabbits? Of course I don't. Because that's not the reality we life in, unless you're some kind of Amish farm family or tribesman. Why in hell would I expect her to? None of that is going to help her pay rent or buy groceries or avoid modern day risks to life, health, or happiness.

obviousredflag · 2023-09-07T11:01:22+00:00

flocked to whichever men could provide the most resources to her even if that meant sharing said guy with multiple women.

Have you done the math on that? There really aren't that many men who could provide to two woman what the average man can provide for one woman, just in terms of money. When you look at how a setup of a very rich man with 10 women would look like, you can imagine who money is no longer the deciding factor, but time is. Getting 100% of the time and resources of an average man is better than getting 1/10th of the time and resources of a richer man. Especially since women do have their own income AND men need to have an increase in life satisfaction by taking on another woman. Have you been in a polyamorous relationship with more than 1 girlfriend? I have and it's been a nightmare: logistics, time spent managing the relationship dynamic, jealousy, lack of bonding time. Now, factor in that rich men tend to have not a lot of free time. Suddenly you have people fighting over scraps of attention and problems coming up everywhere. It's a living hell and the man has a net negative effect from having multiple wives or girlfriends.

Women are not interested in polygyny. Resources isn't even close to the most important thing for women. They have their own resources and additional resources only marginally increase overall life satisfaction.

Reasonable_Voice_997 · 2023-09-07T09:35:28+00:00

I never knew that love is a game so that’s why so many relationships never work out and how many hearts are damaged.

Icy-Sprinkles-638 · 2023-09-07T14:22:26+00:00

I do hate the game. It's why I'm so politically focused. The way to win is to change the game. For far too long we let the people who turned the game into what it is today operate with unchallenged impunity and thus they control all of the institutions of social power, including in politics. That has to change.

kvakerok · 2023-09-07T22:07:03+00:00

Red pill guys don't hate the players, they are the players. You must be taking about the bitter blue pillers, whose blue pill failed them.

Safinated · 2023-09-07T14:28:12+00:00

Great, so things are better now?

Wattehfok · 2023-09-07T11:27:47+00:00

You terps sure do love an unsupported just-so story about how chicks be.

KayRay1994 · 2023-09-07T14:55:05+00:00

women “flock” to men - yes, because they famously had that choice

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januaryphilosopher · 2023-09-07T15:55:14+00:00

For most of human history who has children or not has been primarily the decision of men. Men setting the rules for or arranging who could marry or not, or the further you go back, the more you see it's a case of the men who are most able to rape women doing so. We also see less and less of a nuclear family "providing" picture the further we go back and more of an idea of children being taken care of by extended family and community as well as parents. The idea that women might have genuine power in who they have sex with is relatively new.

Lovemelikeareptile1 · 2023-09-07T16:08:53+00:00

I don't think that's true. Women have a dual mating strategy. When they are in "estrus", which for human females is hidden, ie it's not advertised, like apes who get big bright buttocks for example, they will seek out the so called alpha male. A male who has the masculine traits she wants to be passed down to her children. Such as lack of fear, high testosterone, ability to lead, etc. This of course is subconscious and a woman doesn't need to consciously want to get pregnant to seek out men like these.

But the rest of her cycle, a woman might seek out the provider type. A male who offers security in order for her to have the best environment to raise the child of the alpha male. Since only until recently we were never able to tell who the father of a child really was, unless the couple is white and the child turned out black or Asian, the chances are that a provider type will be raising a child that may not be his.

Evolutionary, this makes for the survival of the species. Get the genes of a strong male and partner up with another male with resources to help raise the child. Typically, the alpha male with strong genes is not the sticking around type as he is off impregnating another female while the other one is left hunting for a provider to help her raise the child.

harmonica2 · 2023-09-08T01:07:27+00:00

I'm a player I guess and I even I hated the game. I have gf now and bring monogamous. I feel like I am doing my part.

lostnumber08 · 2023-09-08T02:12:53+00:00

#1 Humans do not have instincts.

#2 You think religion discourages polygamy? You have a lot to learn, fellow netizen.

Rogue5454 · 2023-09-08T05:00:54+00:00

What….women didn’t “flock” lol. This was never a “natural instinct.”

Women were literally forced to be with a man to be able to survive. Literally his property; & it wasn’t their “choice” to “share” him either. Not to mention in most cases it was rape.

One-Store2972 · 2023-09-15T09:48:23+00:00

I will hate whoever I want

Don’t hate the player, hate the game

Comments

1 is completely bogus, we’re animals

2 is arguable but even in religions which tolerate polygamy like Islam, it is highly frowned upon. This is coming from a guy who grew up in a muslim neighborhood

Title	Don’t hate the player, hate the game
Author	JustACogInAMachine
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Date	September 7, 2023 9:19 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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