I believe that just like how there are "Nice Guys" ,there are also "Nice Girls".

chamomilecloud · 2026-07-11T14:03:56+00:00

“Nice Girl” already has a definition and it is similar to the male version; a woman who acts nice because she thinks it will lead to a date/relationship, and then gets mad when it doesn’t. There is a whole subreddit dedicated to them already.

What you are talking about is a bait and switch, not a Nice Girl. I suspect this is some sort of ESL mistake or lack of knowledge.

And once she has done it she stops knowing her partner now can't leave her.

Huh? Men can divorce their wives. In fact it is even easier if a man divorces his wife early in the marriage, as you have accumulated basically zero communal property. If she stops having sex with you right after getting married, then leave.

lesliecarbone · 2026-07-11T14:04:52+00:00

INFO: What "relationship benefits" are worth enduring unwanted sex?

krackedy · 2026-07-11T14:20:15+00:00

In most countries divorce is legal.

Flightlessbirbz · 2026-07-11T16:27:57+00:00

“Nice girl” isn’t the proper term for this since it doesn’t have anything to do with acting “nice.” “Nice girls” do exist, but this is a woman who hangs around as a friend and pretends to be nice for the sake of getting a man she wants who isn’t asking her out. The only difference is it’s usually not for just sex, but a sexual relationship. Taylor Swift in the video for “You Belong With Me” is a classic example. There’s often an element of “I’m so chill and real and adorkable, not slutty and fake like other girls, and I actually understand him unlike his stupid hoe girlfriend” pickme-ism. And these women do get called out these days.

What you’re describing with women pretending to like sex more than they do is usually a direct result of pressure to what I call “pornform.” Most women do enjoy sex, but have lower libidos and like different things in the bedroom than men. And men usually aren’t okay with that, they’ll take it as a woman not being into them, which is most often not what’s going on. So the performance of liking porn sex is fake, but her being into him isn’t.

If a woman actually loses all interest in sex after the wedding, I’d say that’s some kind of weird bait and switch, but can’t imagine this happens often. And men are able to file for divorce if it does, or even an annulment if soon enough. He’s not stuck.

Present-Afternoon-70 · 2026-07-11T15:09:19+00:00

It amazes me that a movement so hostile to "blank slate theory" suddenly ignores historical and social context the moment it becomes inconvenient.

If women historically were taught that their primary value in a relationship was sex, reproduction, and keeping a man, then of course you'll find women who stay in relationships by having sex they don't particularly want. That's not evidence of some hidden "Nice Girl" strategy. It's exactly what you'd expect from centuries of gendered socialization and unequal economic dependence.

The orgasm comparison is especially bizarre. Faking an orgasm is usually about avoiding conflict, protecting a partner's ego, or ending sex that isn't going anywhere.

Many women have experienced men reacting defensively or angrily to "I enjoyed it, but I didn't orgasm." That's fundamentally different from lying about your political beliefs or personality to secure a relationship. One is often conflict avoidance during an ongoing relationship; the other is deception about who you are.

You're also treating dead bedrooms as if they're primarily caused by women "pretending." In reality, libido changes with stress, childcare, illness, hormones, resentment, relationship quality, aging, and dozens of other factors. You're reducing a complex phenomenon to a just-so story because it fits your worldview.

The pattern here is consistent: ignore history, ignore sociology, ignore psychology, and then declare the simplified explanation to be the obvious one. If you start from what you want to be true instead of what the evidence actually shows, almost any narrative can look convincing.

mooncake_bites · 2026-07-11T15:37:03+00:00

“Its also why you see a lot of woman fake their orgasm. Because they don't actually find their partner sexually attractive but want the relationship benefits so they pretend to enjoy having sex with them.”

Women fake orgasms because they don’t want to hurt the feelings of the guy they are with for not making them cum. No one does that if there’s not at least a little bit of attraction. The way you managed to twist women’s consideration for men. This is why I tell women not to fake, let them know they suck and stay stone faced or else you have guys like OP running with their own narrative and overestimating their abilities.

PuzzleheadedRow9896 · 2026-07-11T14:09:58+00:00

Or, and this is just a game theory:

Sex sometimes is a chore, especially if your partner is often asking for sex when you're tired, overstimulated, having a bad day, etc. (I adore sex with my partner, but I've had chore sex once and had to swear never again because it was that bad and he takes being turned down very well. I can't imagine how this goes for the guys that don't. It's not a chore if you don't make it one for her.) So that's why you hear about it. Not cuz there's some Nice Girls out there plotting to marry you and take your sex away.

As for faking orgasms, have you ever seen a dude's face when you tell him you didn't orgasm. It's like if you told a five year old you hate their fingerpainting. Fucking emotionally brutal. Yeah, you gotta do it for the longevity of the connection, but hoo boy does it suck. SO once in awhile, yeah, it's easier not to tell him and be direct. And if you ain't planning to be with that clown very long, WAAAAAY easier to not tell him at all. Got nothing to do with being a Nice Girl.

KayRay1994 · 2026-07-11T14:22:26+00:00

This started off somewhere interesting but went off the rails real quick (though my initial critique is none of what you describe mimics ‘nice’)

1) women fake their orgasm usually to protect a man’s ego

2) wtf does this have to do with oppression?

3) dead bedrooms usually happen because the relationship goes stale, not because women who fake couldn’t fake any longer

Anyway, imo this post is a poor attempt at connecting multiple unrelated things and somehow both trying to disprove a victim narrative that doesn’t exist while also trying to dodge accountability all at the same time. I’m impressed.

harmonica2 · 2026-07-11T15:02:01+00:00

There seems to be this newer narrative that nice guys are now typically manipulators but before they were simps , so which is it?

-mixedsignals · 2026-07-11T17:24:00+00:00

This sounds like an excuse for being bad in bed

"it's not that I wasn't able to follow instructions to make her orgasm" "it's not that I didn't even notice that she wasn't having a good time"

nono, it's her lying to get married, evil evil woman. Which doesn't make sense btw. If she was faking she wouldn't stop in marriage. What's there to gain? Most people marry people from their same economic class.

This sounds like deep fear of being lied to with something that men are very sensitive about which is sex.

It has nothing to do with the definition of Nice Girls. A Nice Girl is a woman who'd do anything for a man who doesn't like her. Maybe she'll bake him something, he'll let him use her car, will give him dating advice, in the hopes that he'll eventually notice her.

torytho · 2026-07-11T16:56:51+00:00

Yikes. I think you’re way off base. I think the psychology and decision-making of a woman with a different sexual drive from her husband is dramatically different from a man purely seeking sex. I think you severely misunderstand how these women think.

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Logos1789 · 2026-07-11T17:12:19+00:00

“Nice Girls” are just women who landed on a small dick when the music stopped.

Just_Fisherman4910 · 2026-07-11T18:41:26+00:00

Re: "This is why you see a lot of men complaining about Dead Bedrooms."
-> Then stop being in them, aka stop rewarding women who are with you for reasons other than being sexually attracted to you...

Artistic_Speech_1965 · 2026-07-11T20:38:22+00:00

This is true. There are women who will do anything to be in a relationship or secure marriage. Some can even go with manipulation or baby trapping.

But dead bedrooms have another origine generally. There is an orgasm gap between men and women. There are some biological factors. Men need to orgasm to produce semence while women don't need that to have children (that's why rape is so bad because it come with a potial child from your agressor even when you don't like it). Also, society is generally centered around male pleasure. Porn is a great example. It took me really a long time to find documentation about female pleasure.

You will see the orgasm gap doesn't exist in same sex couple be it men or women. But yeah when you understand how female pleasure works, you're good to go

digitalrorschach · 2026-07-11T21:38:49+00:00

"Now a "Nice" Guy is a guy who either pretends to or tries to be Nice to someone not out of genuine good will and kindness ,but purely so he can get sex from a woman."

It's really interesting how the definition of a term changes over time. The term Nice Guy has evolved to mean the most insidious evil character that's pretending to be nice purely to get sex. IDK where this definition came from. Maybe from repeated bastardization over time from women-centric media (The same way they bastardized the term "negging" to mean "back-handed compliment"), but the in 2002 book "No More Mr. Nice Guy!", The term was describing someone who: believe that if they are "good" and do everything "right," they will be loved, get their needs met, and have a problem-free life. This attempt to be good typically involves trying to eliminate or hide certain things about themselves (their mistakes, needs, emotions) and become what they believe others want them to be (generous, helpful, peaceful, etc.). <- This definition is a lot more nuanced than simply pretending to be nice purely as a means to get sex.

Melodic_Structure928 · 2026-07-11T21:43:29+00:00

the nice girl is actually the pump and dumped girl, that's the female version.

Title	I believe that just like how there are "Nice Guys" ,there are also "Nice Girls".
Author	ControversialDebator
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Date	July 11, 2026 10:18 AM UTC (1 week ago)
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