Social construct hipocracy

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MyLastBestChance · 2024-02-21T00:55:04+00:00

Marriage is a legal contract…

Men are an average of 5”+ taller than women. Taller is average. Men who are not taller are below average.

Men earn an average of approximately 20% more than women. Men earning more is average. Men who don’t earn more are below average.

Please provide evidence that women are looking for a man who is smarter than she is…

The reason that a man wants a virgin woman as his wife is very material to the discussion. If he is also a virgin and it’s a religious priority, that’s one thing. If it’s because he’s afraid that he won’t measure up to any past partners, it’s insecurity.

ConanTheCybrarian · 2024-02-21T01:56:29+00:00

What is your point? That these things are NOT social constructs but people say they are?

Or that they ARE social constructs but the fact that all genders participate in them anyway...means something?

Or?

Professional_Chair28 · 2024-02-21T01:58:44+00:00

“most women want to be on a marriage”

Nope. Studies show there’s a trending decline in women actively pursuing marriage.

Sir_Spectacular · 2024-02-21T01:45:01+00:00

"Social constructs" still matter. They still have a tangible effect on a person's life, the way they are treated, and the way they feel about themselves.

januaryphilosopher · 2024-02-21T07:35:57+00:00

"Virginity is a social construct" only really comes in when people start claiming that not being a virgin (however they define it) comes with physical effects or personality changes or means you're ugly or whatever and use that as justification for their preference. It doesn't say anything about you other than you had sex (which people don't even define the same), being a social construct is relevant here. Something being a social construct doesn't mean it's bad to want, just that it doesn't really have a meaning beyond its social meaning.

MiddleZealousideal89 · 2024-02-21T01:32:37+00:00

Something can be a social construct (marriage, virginity, money), and you could still want it. Whether it's insecure or not depends on why you want or don't want a thing. You could want a virgin partner because you yourself are a virgin, and would prefer both of you to share this experience together, maybe your religious beliefs drive you to want a partner like that. Those aren't things I hold as particularly valuable but I wouldn't say wanting a partner for those reasons is insecure. However, if the reason you want a virgin partner is so that you don't have to deal with the thought of them having experienced someone bigger or better, that's just insecurity, you're insecure in your dick and your skills. And, you know, double insecurity points if you then also talk about how worthless and shitty non-virgin women are.

10throwawayantsy · 2024-02-21T00:57:04+00:00

Ok.

In terms of virginity, not really sure what you mean. Does it include rape? Does it not? Nothing anatomically changes after someone "loses their virginity". I suppose a hymen can tear, but it can also tear from riding a horse, or doing other random shit. Was I not a virgin because I fell on a bathtub when I was 6? Kind of a pointless conversation, though. About 3% of adults are virgins when they get married, so I'm not sure why you're acting like there are so many options.

Marriage is not a 'social construct' it comes with very specific tax benefits and terms of separation.

I suppose wanting a man 'taller' is a social construct. There's no raw benefit besides sexual attraction, but it certainly makes more sense than caring about someone's virginity, as this is something you can actually see.

Wanting a wealthier man isn't really a 'social construct' there are tangible benefits of having more money, but to be fucking honest, I'm kind of tired of people like you acting like it's still 1963. Most couples both work and make money <3

Literal_Jesus_ · 2024-02-21T00:58:04+00:00

In certain parts of the world having sex outside of marriage as a woman (whether rape or consensual) can result in literal jail time. Through out history women's worth has been predicated on whether or not a man has previously touched her and in fact her worth detracted whenever a man touched her. There were real world tangible consequences around having sex before marriage that went well beyond "dudes are weird about women having sex" that applied only to women and not men. Meanwhile losing your virginity/having sex when done safely with all the appropriate precautions has no actual bearing on you physically (hymens don't go anywhere and are supposed to stretch during sex not "break"). Virginity is kinda bullshit but women have literally been murdered over it throughout history when consent wasn't even a huge concern. This is something that we've rectified (pretty much) in the Western world but there are still places where women can get murked for premarital sex.

How is that comparable to being too short to get pussy.

Also you don't have to get married.

FutureBannedAccount2 · 2024-02-21T00:53:09+00:00

Yup that's usually how it works. Whether or not something is a social construct depends on how it supports you

Safinated · 2024-02-21T01:12:51+00:00

Marriage is a legal construct, lol

Dr_Click_Click_Boom · 2024-02-21T02:59:33+00:00

Virginity isn't a social construct. Can we start by stating that simple reality?

fakingandnotmakingit · 2024-02-21T01:50:04+00:00

Do wedding contracts and protections under marriage not exist?

Sorprenda · 2024-02-21T02:47:39+00:00

Well we for sure all need to grow up and get over it. You don't need to be tall to be masculine, nor do you need to be a virgin to be feminine. At all.

That said, and I am not sure I believe 100% of what I am typing, but thoughts:

Being rich/tall/smart is generally considered masculine for a man. Just observe nature. Disagree? Fine. This is the easy half of the question.

As for the feminine connection to being a virgin? I think youthfulness is widely considered an especially feminine trait, and a part of that special youthful appeal is the lack of past relationship baggage. Even without knowing a woman's history, you somewhat sense it, and there's something very attractive about it. Disagree?

Realistic-Chest-6002 · 2024-02-21T00:58:40+00:00

Consent is a social construct

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Title	Social construct hipocracy
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Date	February 21, 2024 12:39 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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