"There is nothing that indicates the necessity for self-repair more clearly than hatred of the opposite sex."

KoennonTiger · 2017-03-10T19:08:35+00:00

Well the only problem I see here is that everyone is defining any and every thing, action, sneeze, word, and hell even thought as hate. To the point where it doesn't even mean anything anymore. Hell according to a bunch of people who post here I hate women. Clearly absurd but it's because they are using hate in a meaningless way simply to try to exercise power and control over other people.

So I say that that tweet thing is meaningless because hate has become meaningless.

Also people actually use Twitter? Seriously?

Archwinger · 2017-03-10T22:46:54+00:00

You're putting the cart before the horse.

The root of everything is attractiveness. If you look like shit or act weird, most people, not just the opposite sex, will not like you. The less you're accepted by other people, the worse you maintain your appearance and the more socially weird you become.

Because you are unattractive and fail at life, friendships, and relationships, you develop psychological problems and a hatred of the other sex.

It's not the way you said (problems+hatred makes you unattractive).

Lack of attractiveness is the root cause, and the solution is to learn what makes a person attractive, then change yourself to become more attractive. (Red Pill solution).

The failure blue pill idea is that psychological issues are the root cause, and the solution is therapy, being true to yourself, and learning to respect everybody, at which point other people will stop sensing your underlying hate and psychological problems and start sensing your authenticness, and everybody will like you.

fiat_lux_ · 2017-03-10T19:28:40+00:00

Opinion: The western zeitgeist is strongly focused on virtue. That's partially why many trpers say society is becoming feminized.

The very idea that you can judge someone's "hatred" because a relative handful of people online are obvious ragers (or possibly trolls) when in reality for most people you'd need a mind reading device.

I've been accused of being misogynist (the actual "woman-hating" definition) which is absolute nonsense and proves to me that none of them are mind readers. And really, there's NOTHING that indicates necessity for self-repair more than a bit of "misogyny" (interpreted by god knows who) online?

This shift in focus from what a man's actions to his possible feelings fits nicely with the millenial trope of kids being praised for having their feelings in the right place despite getting last place.

OncleJulian · 2017-03-10T21:41:28+00:00

Further, I'd argue that mental problems also lead to those extreme views. They make someone unattractive and then a world model is constructed that puts responsibility elsewhere. Because that is the only way one can deal with the facts of such a life.

Mental illness in itself does not make someone unattractive. There have always been plenty of Hollywood stars who are basket cases and no one is taking their looks to be any less because of that.

Those guys with mental problems are seen as unattractive because they are unattractive. They'd still be unattractive were they to have their mental problems fixed. There's plenty of guys out there in the world who have bad luck with women for one reason or another. Fortunately, the vast majority of those guys aren't maleovelent, and they don't want to hurt anyone.

DashneDK2 · 2017-03-11T01:37:36+00:00

There is so much hatred for white men, for white heterosexual cis men, on the liberal side. It's not even limited to the crazy SJW extremists. It's so much mainstream liberal thought that it's mentioned causally.

despisedlove2 · 2017-03-11T02:15:43+00:00

Interesting shaming tactic.

Do you seriously think that anyone is going to buy your characterization of a hard nosed realization of female nature as hatred?

SetConsumes · 2017-03-10T19:40:05+00:00

I disagree. You can do everything right everywhere else, but still be shunned by women anyways. If that does happen, you're going to resent them for it eventually.

Nevermind if you grew up with awful women as family members.

SinisterIntentions24 · 2017-03-11T02:00:15+00:00

The constant judging of feminists and MRAs shows a lack of emotional intelligence. Having a problem with anyone is a resistance to change or social deviance, which is a form of intolerance. MRAs get pissed when they see a lack of equality within the sexes and it causes resentment of women. Feminists get pissed when they see a lack of equality, which in turn causes resentment of men. Blacks become resentful when they see racism, or a lack of equality. That tweet is very broad and I don't think it is fair because everyone has their own traumas. Claiming a lack of mental capacity (saying they might have a mental illness) only gives the deviant a scapegoat and will further dig in that belief system. A lot of babble, sorry been drinking, could have been worded better.

Scurvemuch · 2017-03-10T19:26:31+00:00

I love the opposite gender. But I do have opinions about that gender that often does not feel good to hear. really same for my own gender, but thats never been asked.

SO, people get confused when I say something like "women are childish in relationships" with hate. Because they do not understand that the statement doesnt have to feel good to be not a bad thing.

darksoldierk · 2017-03-10T23:22:54+00:00

There is a very big difference between the people that hate the opposite sex and the way that the vast majority (both vocal and non vocal) of people in RP/incel/MRA communities behave. Feminism has decided to call any opinion that isn't beneficial to women as "misogynistic". One definition of misogyny is that it is a hatred of women. That is why people think that RP/Incel/MRA hate women. They don't hate women

What they do hate is the fact that women are allowed to do what they are allowed to do and that through feminism, women are treated are given unfair advantages in life, advantages that are formed by taking away from men opportunities that were equally shared between men and women. For example, the gender quota. Any man or woman can apply to be a director. Yet the gender quota forces companies to fire men and replace them with women simply because women have vagina's. Those same quotas are not implemented in female dominated professions.

There is nothing wrong with TRP saying that marriage is a retarded deal for men, and discussing why it's retarded by outlining what a woman can do and what she can take from you the minute you say "I do". It isn't any different than telling women "don't walk alone at night because some man might rape you". That statement isn't a hatred of men, it's simply a warning.

The fact of the matter is, we are living in an age where women are given the power to destroy a man's life legally. She can take away his children.....legally. And no, I don't consider weekend custody as a fair judgement because it's not. We are living in an age where companies are unable to reward a man by giving him a promotion due to his commitment and achievements if his coworker had been at the workplace for a longer period of time but hasn't shown the same commitment. I can't tell you how many times I've sat in management meetings and we would say things like "well, John has excelled at his position, and he is looking bored. We don't want to lose him, so he would be an excellent fit for this role. But can we really give him this role? Stacy has been at the company 2 years longer and shares the same job title. It's clear that John is a better fit for this role, but what is the likelihood of stacy filing a complaint if we do give John the promotion, and how much would that complaint cost us?". When a woman is better suited for a promotion than a man who was been at the company longer, that discussion doesn't occur. We just give the woman the promotion, and that's that.

So you can see that we live in a world where the law not only treats women better than men, but also forces corporations to treat women better than men. Men end up living through this life alone, fighting an uphill battle against women, the law and corporations, all the while they are told that they enjoy some wonderful privileges for being men, privileges that don't exist. So yeah, for some men, this is going to cause them to hate women. Maybe the problem isn't that those men need to change, maybe the problem is that we, as a society, need to implement actual equality instead of simply saying we striving for it and implementing rules that take from men to give to women

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purpleppp · 2017-03-10T19:19:29+00:00

Should I take the claim literally? I think there are worse things than misogyny and misandry. Being a serial killer for example.

AlexKingstonsGigolo · 2017-03-10T21:42:39+00:00

The '.' should really go right after "hatred".

Randommorningkiller · 2017-03-11T04:26:58+00:00

I agree, I think it's nearly impossible for men to hate women without serious trauma. Even then, it's probably just low trust.

IIHotelYorba · 2017-03-10T23:01:33+00:00

I like Jordan Peterson but he speaks with a kind certainty about so many things that I find it disconcerting, especially when he's describing relatively subjective ideas.

Further, I'd argue that mental problems also lead to those extreme views. They make someone unattractive and then a world model is constructed that puts responsibility elsewhere. Because that is the only way one can deal with the facts of such a life.

I think it's literally just frustration that comes from a lack of experience (and therefore success.) This can turn into extreme avoidance which is the root of many mental illnesses and even brain damage, if I understand the ideas right. Basically, feeling intense emotions is part of life. Avoiding things to the degree it hurts what is your life is the definition of many disorders. Most people avoid things to SOME degree when they hit that brick wall of frustration.

godfatherchimp · 2017-03-11T19:15:58+00:00

No, I think self hatred is the biggest indicator.

methylotroph · 2017-03-12T02:40:35+00:00

I agreed total, met a lot of mgtows that clearly have some kind of jealous hate for women, keep telling them they will never find peace in life like that.

MorpheusGodOfDreams · 2017-03-12T03:02:20+00:00

But TRP is exactly that self repair that men need by correcting their wrong assumptions about women. The final level of TRP is the understanding that men and women are meant for a complimentary symbiosis, like Yin and Yang.

Macheako · 2017-03-14T17:22:50+00:00

Real fucking hatred of the opposite sex, a feeling of straight disgust just at the notion of them...THATS somethin you need to see a shrink over lol But if you just mad at guys for having to deal with their shit, that's pretty fucking normal.

What's important is that you accept them for their flaws. If you can do that, you don't REALLY hate em, you just venting or some shit, again, pretty human.

But if you go home, and throw your back pack in the corner, close your room door, turn down the light, close the shades, and cut your self so you can make a pentagram in human blood on your closet floor infront of evenly spaced out candles and you pray to Moloch that all men wake up tomorrow morning witih their penises gone...again, THATS real hate lol

But complaining to brittany that guys are always smackin ya ass, or callin ya hawt or some shit, yea, you're just bein a girl.

tldr; real hatred is a naaaaaaaaasty fucking thing. Don't confuse "being upset" with a deep seated anger/resentment/hatred of something. But yea, you should probably get that checked out.

jonah___ · 2017-03-10T19:19:17+00:00

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SetConsumes · 2017-03-10T19:57:28+00:00

Generally, sure. It means the person doesn't appreciate or value the other gender and may also reject their own.

But there are some extreme views that are coherent with their hatred too, finding their own gender to be so much better that they utterly hate the other one. I've seen it from men and women. Healthy or not is more dependent on the society than some objective standard.

So to C Your V, this may often be true but not always.

sublimemongrel · 2017-03-10T19:25:36+00:00

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Title	"There is nothing that indicates the necessity for self-repair more clearly than hatred of the opposite sex."
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Date	March 10, 2017 6:59 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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