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About Emma Watson

April 5, 2022

An awful picture of Emma has been circulating the internet where she definitely does not look her best. I think it’s because she is a bit underweight, tanning, dry makeup, and a unflattering hairstyle in addition to some natural signs of aging. Maybe the angle and lighting too. The other pictures of her from the same night she looked fine for the most part.

I like this quote from Lauren Southern about the situation.

“Conservatives talk all day about how they want women to be mothers, to settle down, be more natural etc.

Then fuel this culture of making women fear aging more than anything to the point they pump their faces full of silicon & shudder at pregnancy.”

I think she’s absolutely right. How can women embrace the ‘natural trad wife’ archetype if we are made to fear the natural changes a woman goes through in life? We don’t stay youthful virgins forever.

What do you ladies think of this?

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Title About Emma Watson
Author LittleDragonMaiden
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Date April 5, 2022 11:43 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]SunshineSundressEndorsed Contributor 79 points80 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

How can women embrace the ‘natural trad wife’ archetype if we are made to fear the natural changes a woman goes through in life? We don’t stay youthful virgins forever.

Love goggles. Here’s some relevant excerpts from the post, which can be found in this RPW sidebar/wiki-level post:

Just as beer goggles can make a drunk guy go home with a girl he wouldn't even look twice at if he were sober, the love goggles can make a husband look at his dear wife as if she is the femme fatale of his adolescent fantasies. If your partner loves and cherishes you, and you regularly shower him with affection, tenderness, and desire, you don't have to spend your days constantly worried that he's going to bang his secretary because you found a gray in your hair that morning; his love goggles won't notice.

Now, this isn't the blue-pilled bullshit that if a man really loves you, it's OK for you to gain 600 lbs and be a slob. No... if anything, you should feel inspired to be more like the woman he sees through his love goggles. The day after this conversation, I brought my red lipstick out of the bowels of my purse and bought a new push-up bra. :-)

I suppose it's worth saying, too, that the reverse of the love goggles is possible. You could be the hottest piece of ass in your zip code, but if you're a miserable shrew, you probably look like Freddie Krueger to him for making his life such waking nightmare.

Another takeaway I took from that sidebar post: yes, as we continue to age, men and society as a whole will begin to see us as less attractive than we were at our primes. This is why the aging starlet is an unenviable role: everyone in the world will constantly compare you to the extremely high prime that you once occupied, without much particular sympathy because they have no personal attachment towards you. But unless we messed up big time, and are still single in our late 40s, our goal usually shifts from trying to be attractive (and ultimately, lovable) to all men and society as a whole. Our new goal is to remain lovable and attractive to OUR man. And that’s where love goggles truly come in.

We sometimes get naysayers (read: anger-phase MGTOW/TRP guys who stumble onto here before the mods can shoo them back to r/TheRedPill 😂) who say that this is just us silly women being delusional about reality, but men themselves have waxed poetic about just how much they still love and find their wives of 10, 20+ years as beautiful as ever.

TLDR: Cultivating a heathy, loving, tender, and reciprocal relationship is how to get your man to overlook and embrace your inevitable aging.

(Personally, and non-seriously, I probably wouldn’t mind just a liiiittle bit of botox to help ease me into The Wall 😂)

[–]Bubbly_Window_6719 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Men age as well! I am 30 and I get white streaks in my hair since I was 25. so I ue Natural hair dye to make myself look less like a zebra. My SO likes brown best but sometimes I rather use henna and go red.

[–]CountTheBeesEndorsed Contributor 46 points47 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Here are my thoughts on the issue. The Wall is a physical confirmation of a nonphysical idea; that women are more privileged than men for the first part of their life, and the Wall is the point at which this privilege ends.

Young women are privileged, there's no two ways about it. Even if you're not a natural beauty, with the help of makeup, diet, and hairstyling (or even surgery/botox) you can instantly elevate your status in society to be higher than that of almost 90% of your male same-age counterparts. It is the loss of this status that hurts.

The problem is, when women speak of the Wall, it's as if they fear it because reduces their value *below normal human levels*. When the truth is, the Wall merely reduces to their value to a *normal human level*. Being ugly is the baseline, having people acknowledge that verbally and being invisible to strangers and not having the door held open for you or not having people smile at you or give you a second look is **normal**. Yet women feel that this treatment is inhumane! Because of all the years of privilege they've had.

So with that said, the furore about this picture of Emma Watson has two parts.

1) The lies about female beauty by the film/fashion/cosmetics industry. Women were outraged when someone developed an app for removing makeup. Men wanted to know what a girl would look like the morning after, and women didn't want their pretty-privilege to be taken away. There is a deliberate strategy of skewing expectations, and entire industries are based on fooling people into thinking someone is super hot when they're just normal, and making normal people feel like shit so that they buy <product>. For this reason many men prefer their girlfriend to wear no makeup even if it makes them look average. Hollywood and the fashion industry dress up a lot of very average looking people and sell them off as 9s and 10s when the reality is they're just normal people. So part of this is the shattering of the illusion Hollywood likes to sell. Do movie stars really look like that when they don't have perfect lighting, a makeup team, a hair team, and a stylist? Yes. Yes they do. How many times have you felt bad when you looked in the mirror because of that illusion? And how many times was it faked just to make you feel bad? All that hurt and anger comes out when the illusion fails.

2) Emma Watson's character and confirmation bias. She comes across as stuck up, privileged, and out of touch. I think both right and left kinda dislike her for one reason or another. When someone has an ugly character (supposedly) and an ugly face - well it's just poetic justice, isn't it? Which is why people latched on so harshly to her being ugly. Because people like to believe (as do I) that you can see a person's character on their face. It's why movie villains are often ugly. I'm not saying that all bad people are ugly or all good people are pretty, I'm saying that Emma Watson's ugliness was celebrated and amplified because she had a (seemingly) ugly personality to start with. If she was known to be a kind and sweet person, less people would have gleefully mocked her or reposted that pic. Take Britney Spears in 2007, or Katy Perry in 2010, (shows you the last time I cared about celeb gossip) who also had to deal with unflattering pictures, or the numerous other celebs with unflattering photos and the coverage they received. Search anyone and "no makeup" or "unflattering" and find hundreds of others. Those pictures were received based on the way people already thought of them. We see what we want to see. So if we believe a person is ugly on the inside, we will try to find and celebrate ugliness in their appearance.

So no, I don't think this is about all women hitting the wall or about women being held to an impossible standard. It's about Emma Watson, specifically, being mocked because people don't like her, and the breakdown of the Hollywood illusions. Society doesn't do this to women they like. A woman's looks is just the softest target to aim for when you want to take her down or hurt her.

[–]SunshineSundressEndorsed Contributor 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn, insightful AF!

[–]VasiliyZaitzevTRP Senior Endorsed 8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Men wanted to know what a girl would look like the morning after, and women didn't want their pretty-privilege to be taken away.

So, in fairness, in "normal life" I think men are more forgiving about women's bodies than women are - the woman known as the Hotness in my "TRP Guide for Dating Models" once pointed out the top 10 "flaws" in her absolutely flawless 21 year old body. Flaws that were invisible to me. /shrugs

I note, here, that the fashion industry is run but gay men and ladies of a certain age. If straight guys were running it there would be waaaaaaaaay more Booty on Duty, but I digress.

Yes, "Wife Goggles" are a thing. Particularly if the wife in question works at keeping her figure.

Returning to Emma Watson, a fan photo got out, so she was not able to benefit from photoshop/filters etc. I would also think that things are not "as bad" with her as that photo indicates. Sometimes, you just take a bad photo. We also have seen her "grow up" in the movies, so we know what she looked like in her Pre-WallSPLAT! period.

Hollywood and the fashion industry dress up a lot of very average looking people and sell them off as 9s and 10s when the reality is they're just normal people.

Or they try to go in the other direction, which Dove did with its "Real Beauty" campaign, i.e. a bunch of fat women in their underwear, and now VS has gone full "woke" buy ditching their very popular "Angels" campaign with the "VS Collective". Pink-haired (or purple or whatever) lesbian soccer player and ... well, it doesn't get any better from there.

[–]CountTheBeesEndorsed Contributor 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Men wanted to know what a girl would look like the morning after, and women didn't want their pretty-privilege to be taken away.

I'm being quite unfair to men in that statement (good call) because I needed to set them up as an equal but opposite force to the women that had such an extreme reaction, to somehow make them seem less... radical? In reality the reaction of men was probably "eh" not "OMG". The reason for that was, despite being usually quite willing to be the bad cop I have sympathy for this issue. I didn't want to insult any of the women here in the comments who wrote that it hurts to lose that beauty even with wife goggles and that's what I wanted to focus on. That pain of being less beautiful to society even though you have the love of a specific man. That's why I didn't mention wife/love goggles at all. As one comment here said "it's missing the point." I wanted to simultaneously explain why that point exists and then destroy it (it's based on an illusion).

We also have seen her "grow up" in the movies, so we know what she looked like in her Pre-WallSPLAT! period.

Yes she was actually really pretty. Here they're still trying to sell her as a beauty when that is fading. Hence the disenchantment with movie magic.

Dove did with its "Real Beauty" campaign

As soon as I move I'm throwing the TV out. I'm sick of ugly people being presented as beautiful and sick of beautiful people being ugly inside. I actually really love looking at beautiful people and admiring them. But so many are distasteful to me because of their personalities and I can't enjoy it much anymore.

[–]Mchafee 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good post. 👍🏻 Probably the best reply in here. Should be higher.

[–]KombuchaEnema3 Stars 66 points67 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I have noticed something interesting about human behavior and I think it plays a role here.

If a girl asks shyly online, “I have a flat butt, will guys care? I’m so embarrassed about it.”

She gets hundreds of messages (from men) telling her she’s fine the way she is, she is beautiful, she will find someone who loves her, don’t worry about it, etc.

On the other hand, if a girl with a flat butt posts a video of herself twerking talking about how she has a nice butt, men will flood into the comments section to roast her about her flat butt.

My conclusion: it’s less about how you look and more about how you present yourself. If a man loves a woman, or at least finds her to be someone he wants to protect, he will go to the ends of the Earth to explain away any bad photograph of her. He will still treat her like she’s still the sexiest thing on Earth.

Emma Watson is a known feminist and I think that’s playing a big role in how people are treating this entire situation. Society loves to tear people down who talk a big game and Emma Watson talks a big game when it comes to the whole “I don’t need a man, men suck” rhetoric.

[–]Tem_a 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Conclusion: haters gonna hate

[–]aussiedollface2 12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

As a former very slim person (BMI 17), it doesn’t look cute once you’re over 30 (my BMI now is 22). When you’re young the baby fat in your face hides the gauntness and looks great with a slim body. I think she’s a little underweight and might look younger with a bit more weight on her face. There’s a famous quote about choosing your “fanny or your face” but I forget who said that!

[–]StunningAd6745 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It was Catherine DeNeuve

[–]LateralThinker13Endorsed Contributor 3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

How can women embrace the ‘natural trad wife’ archetype if we are made to fear the natural changes a woman goes through in life? We don’t stay youthful virgins forever.

Do you understand how The Wall works? It's when a woman's looks and physical desirability, along with her fertility, start rapidly declining (at least compared to 20-somethings) at around 30. THe reason it's a thing is because plenty of women (most?) are short-sighted enough to think that their privileged, desirable status in their 20s will last forever, because it's all they ever knew, and so they don't cultivate any other worth and don't commit to a HVM while they are still desirable.

Then they find themselves out of the prime dating market and get to play catch-up on a battlefield they are completely unprepared for. It hits like running into a brick wall at full speed.

So what's the answer?

Then fuel this culture of making women fear aging more than anything to the point they pump their faces full of silicon & shudder at pregnancy.”

The answer? Be desirable for more than your physical looks.

It's not that hard. Acting feminine, STFU, submission, being a soft place to land, knowing how to cook/clean/care for a man, all of this has nothing to do with your looks or virginity.

Women who pump themselves with silicon and fear pregnancy are women who have nothing else to offer other than their sexual bodies, full stop. A tradcon/RPW offers more than sex - she's a HVW, competent and supportive and feminine and submissive in ways the average BP thot can't even comprehend.


“Conservatives talk all day about how they want women to be mothers, to settle down, be more natural etc. Then fuel this culture of making women fear aging more than anything to the point they pump their faces full of silicon & shudder at pregnancy.”

Upon reflection, I need to add to this. Your statement is that Conservatives fuel a culture of women fearing aging. This is woefully inaccurate and incomplete. They tell women to fear aging IF their physical youth and sexuality are all they have to offer a man. And they do this because for many young women in this entitled day and age, and for all the QUEENS out there, that IS all they have to offer.

It's that simple. If your value is based around your sexual attractiveness and nothing else, then you SHOULD fear aging with visceral terror. But if you've cultivated worth in ways that age well (the aforementioned submission, support, care, domestic skills, etc., i.e. in ways that support and nurture a healthy LTR) you're in good standing.

[–]LittleDragonMaiden[S] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I agree but it would be nice if the population at large treated women like they had value outside of being young and fertile. I’m 22 but I’ll be an old woman one day, I’d like to be valued for my skills and personality but fear this society won’t embrace an old woman.

[–]LateralThinker13Endorsed Contributor 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

1) Stop caring so much what 'society' (which is hardly monolithic) thinks of you. Care instead what your loved ones think FIRST and primarily. As long as what you do doesn't get you arrested/driven out of town, live your own life with less fear.

2) Being young and fertile is how the species continues to exist. It IS a core function of being a woman. Reject that at your peril.

3) Plenty of men appreciate women for more than their looks and fertility. But you have to be willing to divest yourself of beta orbiters to find them. Most women won't do that - they crave validation too much.

4) realize that most of your self worth as a woman (as highlighted by points 1 and 3 above) is sourced EXTERNALLY, and choose to CHANGE THAT. (Incidentally, it's why women favor socialism more than men, across cultures). Learn what it takes to value yourself for your accomplishments and internal factors - in other words, learn how to have intrinsic, inherent self-worth that doesn't depend upon others finding you hot/desirable.

I’d like to be valued for my skills and personality but fear this society won’t embrace an old woman.

1) This society mostly doesn't care about old ANYBODY. 2) there's a LOT of room between '20-something hottie' and 'old woman'. Forgive the condescension, but I think you can't see that because you're only 22.

[–]Advanced_Bar_673Endorsed Contributor -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Quote: (Incidentally, it's why women favor socialism more than men, across cultures).

I have often wondered why women are more drawn to socialism, and this comment just made it click. Thank you!

[–]sunny_autumn_morning 21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There's lots of comments here about wife goggles and marrying early and having kids. And that's...fine I guess. But misses the point a little I think. I got married in my early 20s and had all my kids before I turned 30. I don't doubt my husband's love and faithfulness to me. But that really doesn't make aging easier and it doesn't make people any less likely to make negative remarks about your appearance. And doesn't change your own perception of your looks and your value.

I didn't know how vain I was until I really started noticing signs of aging in my body. I obviously expected I would age, but I'm having a much harder time coming to terms with it than I expected to. I can probably point to ways that the culture I've grown up in and lived in forced these unrealistic expectations on me, but ultimately that's not super helpful. I've got to figure out how to change my own mindset and how to model a healthier attitude for my daughters. It's easier said than done when women are judged so heavily on their appearance, and when I'm also guilty of making those judgements.

[–]Key-Progress-8873 29 points30 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

The pic you are referring to is making the rounds because Emma Watson is also known as a man hating feminist, so naturally anti-feminists will use this chance to mock her. Personally I think this is pathetic and I actually pity Emma Watson. She had her childhood stolen from her by Hollywood and hardly got to see anything resembling normality in her life. A cocktail of drugs, alcohol and meds will make you look like a dessicated corpse on a bad day.

Also I quickly thought of Brandon Fraser when I saw the pic. For a while a pic of him looking fat, tired and balding was also making the rounds. Interestingly, I saw a lot of women defending him and saying warm things about him like how aging doesn’t spare anyone and how he is still a great guy. More recently he has turned things around and looks quite attractive again.

Bottom line to me is that women are more mature about aging than men, certainly online. And terminally online men are bitter and petty.

[–]cartmaninfit 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's just the internet/human nature if you have a bad reputation people will tear you up given the chance.

[–]Quealpedoestoy 12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The main difference is than Brendan Fraser has a lovable character, Emma as you said is a man hating feminist.

[–]Key-Progress-8873 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Indeed. Personally I never found Emma Watson attractive at all. I do not find 'sass' attractive as a trait, and in her it's very obviously not an act for her roles, it's a core trait that she maintains. I like women who learn humility and project kindness and warmness, not superiority over others. Emma Watson evidently likes to wear her suits and be that "girlboss" every feminist dreams about being.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I was looking for this comment. Emma Watson is a passive aggressive bullying bitch. The reason she gets away with it is because she was in Harry Potter. That’s it. Stripper of that title and she is an entitled Karen.

[–]Anonymous_fiend 23 points24 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That’s why it’s important to marry in your 20s. If you find a good husband, keep a healthy feminine appearance, and treat him well there’s usually no issues. Wife googles is definitely a thing. Attraction is more than just physical appearance. A lot of women let themselves go, have dead bedrooms, and become disrespectful. That’s what kills attraction.

Most trads reject modern culture so most don’t fear it as much. Women’s value is more than just looks. As an older woman you still contribute to your community and are respected. Views of women have changed for the worst.

Although when men say they want natural they don’t actually mean natural. They mean light natural makeup, a little bit of Botox to slow aging, maybe some highlights, etc.

[–]Jihocech_Honza 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wife googles

It is not only marriage. I have seen many high-school or college recreated relationships, divorced or widowed people in their 50s-60s.

[–]titlejunk 20 points21 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I’m 44. So according to all RP ideas, I’m passed the “wall”.

I think about that every day. I look in the mirror and worry about it.

My husband assures me that he is still strongly attracted to me and frankly I know that I’m still attractive.

But… the end is near. Very near.

I have no answers for you. I know my husband loves me and will remain devoted. I also know that soon I will stop turning heads and that will hurt.

It will hurt my ego because I gave up my career to be with a man. It was a good decision but it will also leave me with nothing of value once my beauty fades.

I’ll be worth nothing. I will be able to grow plants, cook food, care for children and animals. But I won’t be earning money.

I want to wrap up this essay with a cute summary. It hurts and I don’t know what’s next. I guess that’s the summary.

[–]Environmental_Ad5867 20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Your post made me sad somehow because I suspect the reality is much less dire than how you might be viewing it now.

You won’t be worth nothing. We’re all human and we hold intrinsic value to those we love, nurture, care for, our families and communities. As mothers, wives, daughters. Our roles evolve through time and experience. I believe if we stay stuck on a certain role or idea, we become jaded, cynical and even depressed.

Looks aren’t forever, I’d like to think the definition of beauty only changes (not diminished) with time and we can aim to do it gracefully.

My mother was (and is) a beautiful woman. When she met my dad, he proposed within a month of them meeting after their whirlwind romance. They were married within months. She had a short brilliant career as a stockbroker until she gave up her job to be a SAHM to raise us. Their marriage had their ups and downs but ultimately my mother was supportive to my dad while he provided for us. On my dad’s retirement, they made plans to start a small farming business. Sadly, my dad passed away from a heart attack last year and my mom was left to deal with his estate. Tbh we were all worried and offered help, but she’s done brilliantly- liaising with lawyers, banks, taxes. Now she’s taken over the project of the farm and tailored it to her strengths and has provided work for the local community with her project. She’s happy, motivated and from what I can see, flourishing. She mourns my dad but she’s moving forward so admirably. Throughout their 31 years of marriage, my dad maintains that she was the love of his life, and so did she. She’s still beautiful and gained an elegance with her age. I see that for all the other women in her circle of friends too.

I know it’s a Segway but what I wanted to say is that you’re not worth ‘nothing’ as you age. Your roles changes but different doesn’t mean bad.

I hope that helps in some way. As someone mentioned, we shouldn’t just place singular importance in just our sexual value. That’s how you end up like those Hollywood youth chasers that do anything and everything to hold on to the last dregs of their youth, who end up looking alien-like or destroying their faces completely.

[–]Submersiv 21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You earn money through your husband and family earning money. Are they not caring for you because of the work you put in for them? Your value is in the relationships you built.

The wall is only in the context of your value to other men, which is completely irrelevant in your stage of life. You all need to stop thinking sexual value is the same as life value.

[–]LateralThinker13Endorsed Contributor 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It was a good decision but it will also leave me with nothing of value once my beauty fades.

If you only value beauty and generating income, then your statement is true. If you value legacy, children, animals, a happy and healthy home life, and a lasting, loving relationship, your statement is false.

You get to pick which it is. The fact that you say "it hurts" tells me that you don't recognize and value the positive accomplishments. You're fixated on your looks. And that's sad, and needs therapy.

[–]Catherine772023 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Focus on looking good for your age and making the best of your situation. I have seen an abundance of beautiful women your age.

I know a woman who is roughly 10 years younger than you (so not a huge age gap but still something) who is so beautiful that guys flock to her and even women notice her being beautiful. I know one who talks about how pretty her eyes are and takes pictures of her and mentions her dress. I often compliment her.

[–]Jihocech_Honza 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I gave up my career to be with a man

All magic comes with a price, dearie.

[–]Wolfssenger 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

While I agree that there's definitely some hypocrisy here, I don't think it's quite that simple.

Though I doubt many of them would be able to articulate it, it's likely that some of the ire and irreverence comes from the notion that she's aging without having done what a traditional woman should do by the time she begins to really age, i.e. build a family or at least have started doing so.

I don't have much information on this situation so it might just be nastiness, but a lot of the 90iq "make fun of women for looking old" behavior does have its roots in this idea.

[–]Lando_620 9 points10 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I think that some certainly are mocking her in that manner, however, I didn't see that as the primary message. I saw it as less of a be fearful of aging and more a critique on how these lefty ideas seem to poison ones an entire mentality and that often bleeds into their physical health. It is like an artificial accelerator of the aging process thus they look more sickly or withered. I think Ellen Page is a much better example of this as she literally looks drugged out walking zombie...this concept to me is what the driving force was to the Emma Watson situation.

Additionally, on the male side of the redpill, which has a much greater array of solution paths then the trad was a prime example to them of the wall and how left leaning woman tend to hit it at full force. Those types of men are quick to jump on it as Emma has very much supported the modern lefty ideals.

Honestly, I think most of redpill men get the idea of the wall wrong or at least they don't know how to articulate it other than to say women become ugly or unattractive. I view the wall more as a youthful glow that triggers a primal urge in men. That urge is responsible for the "Damn, I want fuck that!" AKA Baby making / breeding impulse. When a women hits the wall that thought changes to, "She's hot, I'd fuck her." That simply change by the majority of men is what is a women's wall moment, it doesn't mean she is ugly, or suddenly repulsive, merely that the primal part of the male brain no longer compels men to gain her attention. That loss of attention is the difference and women should ideally find a man to build a pair bond with before that happens.

[–]Bubbly_Window_6719 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Let us not ignore it is the conservative/right that sees women as useless, vindictive old bats from a certain age on! That is a hard truth — but we can change it!

[–]girlwithasidecarEndorsed Contributor 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why do you think this? It's not been my experience with any conservative people.

[–]Lando_620 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean there are certainly outliers in every group that think that way sure. The majority though don't, that doesn't even fit the trad concept. Having a traditional family for multiple generations leads to massive family gatherings. Women in that sense are often the pillar around such events as they are the bearers of the food for such events. Food is the easiest way for people to gather thus the rich tradition of food in large family settings. Women are the more social of the sexes so tend to be the keepers of that communal spirit.

Also, every studies says the least happy demographic of human is women 40-45 who have a high powered career but no husband or kids. Those women are often the "bitter / vindictive old bats" as you say. A core to this sub is helping young women realize this and find a better path for long term happiness.

[–]Tem_a 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Am i the only one here who doesn't find the pic to be that bad? (Combination of bad lighting and a bad angle) I am young and beautiful and sometimes i take accidental pics from unflattering angles and i can barely recognise myself.. what's the big deal?

[–]BumbleBitny1 Star 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ditto, no one looks flattering mid movement which is clearly what's happening.

[–]Sunshine12e 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Probably an eating disorder.

[–]FineDevelopment00 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She's a vegan, so yeah.

[–]CCloudds 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link


[–]06534956 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Be exactly who you are and who you want to be, and add in different flavors as you see fit.

These men are reacting to a picture, a moment caught in time and on film. It’s not actually HER that they’re reacting to. They can’t see how she moves, smiles, the glint in her eyes, how she smells and breathes. That is our feminine essence and what is so intoxicating to men.

We all have our moments of looking like shit, just as we have our moments of looking insanely beautiful. It can happen in the same night, or even in the same second. We exist in a constant flow.

Embracing that is what makes a man fall in love, and getting the hell away from toxic messaging that says you must be one or the other.

Yeah, it’s a good idea to keep yourself together and be healthy. Beauty follows health. Healthy people age well. That’s what is most important.

[–]DeLovehlyCoconute 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not so much about naturally aging as Emma Watson is vegan and clearly letting herself go. This is resulting in her looking much older than her age. We shouldn't fear aging but we should fear letting ourselves go to the extent where it makes us look 50 when we're 30. We should look 50 at 50!

[–]lavachequirie 4 points5 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Amen sis, my goodness. The way our culture treats aging is a true shame. A good man will love you throughout all the stages of your life.

ETA: I think the argument is that Emma Watson hasn't had any kids yet and is very liberal with no values for family or motherhood, etc. I don't think it's appropriate to make fun of anyone's looks but that's why conservatives make fun of her.

[–]flonkerton1 2 points3 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Why do you think she has no family values ?

[–]flonkerton1 7 points8 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

She's done interviews before literally saying she can't wait to have kids and become a mom. She donates a lot of her time and money to those in need. I'm confused by your comment.

[–]lavachequirie -1 points0 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Because she's a raging feminist. This is generally a conservative sub so I assumed that would be obvious. Just because you like your family and want to have kids at some point does not mean you have the values and skills to be a good parent.

[–]flonkerton11 points [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link

Just because you're a raging feminist doesn't mean you don't have family values.

[–]lavachequirie1 points [recovered] (6 children) | Copy Link

Those two things are diametrically opposed, so I am of the opinion that it does. You're welcome to disagree with me. From my point of view, you cannot be both a feminist and have values conducive to raising a healthy family.

[–]The9thElement 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

They’re not diametrically opposed

[–]flonkerton11 points [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Treating men and women equally = values not conducive to raising a healthy family? I'm curious why you think that.

[–]pearlsandstilettosModerator | Pearl 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

We don't need to defend feminism here particularly when the broader ideology is much more than this simplistic talking point. Comment removed.

[–]flonkerton1 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm just curious where the other person is coming from.

[–]aussiedollface2 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Love goggles are def a thing. Get a man to love you when you’re young and beautiful and he will always see you that way. I personally feel like men struggle to fall in love when you’re older because they never knew you/saw you at your best. Just my opinion/ observation xo

[–]Bubbly_Window_6719 -3 points-2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Once elderly people were few. Their exeptional age made them revered, knowledgable voices of wisdom. Nowadays the wisdom of old people gets mocked, called outdated etc. that increases the picture tenfold.

[–]LittleDragonMaiden[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I’m sure there are plenty of wise elderly people but they are outnumbered by the ones that yell nonsense. Have you ever been to a retirement home? Lots of conspiracy theories, a light dose of racism (which says a lot coming from me lol), and a surprising amount of sexual depravity.

[–]Bubbly_Window_6719 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It is about the impression. We do not value elderly so especially women feel worthless then.

[–]_Stoner420_ -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The whole point of the aging scare is to alert women of their maternal prime years.

Leaving settling down with a family too late is a major loss

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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