"I've never met a redpiller with a daughter"

stonepimpletilists · 2017-04-16T00:25:11+00:00

U/rollo-tomassi does, she just moved out

SexistFlyingPig · 2017-04-16T03:10:19+00:00

That phrase is based in the belief that red pillers are woman haters. I would say it's the exact opposite. It's about understanding women.

My GF is vastly happier than my ex-wife ever was. When my ex would cry about something, I'd try to commiserate with her and understand her and empathize and sympathize and try to make everything better. She'd be miserable for days, and so would I, then I'd fail and she'd think less of me for it.

My GF cries about something. I listen, I tell her I understand, I might offer a different viewpoint (but not a solution), and then I let her cry. 30 minutes later, she's as happy as can be.

Hmm, I wonder which method was better.

throwawayred521 · 2017-04-15T23:24:12+00:00

But my feminist feels! How am I going to justify hating you!

Hamstrhamstrhamstrhamstrhamstr

On a serious note though, I've been on the RP for a while too, and although I don't have kids, when I do and if it's a daughter I would be in the same mentality as this man.

ozaku7 · 2017-04-16T02:04:06+00:00

Honestly, the only good thing you can do as a parent of a daughter is by teaching them red pill knowledge.

It is so often preached that women cannot be redpill, but redpill is all about self-improvement, awareness of your environment and most of all yourself.

A woman can also go to the fitness, read books, learn to be financially responsible, how to increase her SMV and use it to her benefit, much like us men do. That is, if she chooses to do so. Most/All women will remain the most responsible teenager in the household, and most realize that they are fucked up teenagers and just decide they can't do anything against it. Kind of goes against what I said a few lines above.

Teach your daughter what she needs to know in life, about herself and the opposite sex. Show her how women feel and think according to the male mind, with regards to respect, alpha/beta, her SMV, and so on. Teach her RP. All you can do is give her the tools which she wouldn't have without you, and all you can do is watch whether she uses them. Make her understand herself, and men.

aDrunkenWhaler · 2017-04-16T19:25:37+00:00

Get ready for your precious daughter to suck dick Sunday after curch, in her teens.

How I know this?

You're a hardcore bible believer
You make a big case out of her saving herself for marriage.
Overprotective and controlling
Statistics & common sense

putin_vor · 2017-04-16T11:29:05+00:00

You're so wrong on the religious thing.

1) People of most major religions, except catholics, have divorce rates significantly higher compared to atheists (21% atheists, 27% christians, 24% mormons, 30% jews). The Bible Belt has the highest divorce rate in the country.

2) Marrying someone before having sex with them is incredibly dumb, it goes against the TRP ideas. Sex first, relationship later. What if they suck at sex? What if they refuse to do anything but missionary twice a year?

3) Marriage is not a religious institution anymore, it hasn't been for a while. You can get married in a church, but nobody cares, it's meaningless to everyone but you. People get married for the actual rights and benefits that the state provides - visitation rights, inheritance rights, medical decisions, joint taxes, etc.

G_Petronius · 2017-04-16T02:33:44+00:00

As far as I'm concerned, marriage is a completely religious thing, and if you aren't religious, you really shouldn't be getting married.

Marriage was historically a political arrangement to secure alliances between tribes, and the women themselves sold as property by their fathers. Many emperors of old had harems or multiple wives, polygamist marriages have existed forever in many societies throughout history. Don't kid yourself into believing monogamist marriage is some religious construct that first appears in the bible.

re4d3 · 2017-04-16T07:07:07+00:00

I have two daughters myself. The older one is 14. It is funny, how I can observe everything what is said here. 90% of woman thinking and action is aimed to get a man. Nice clothes, some cosmetics, long hair, gossips with girl friends, nice pictures. I say "in your age, I was building models of tanks, blowing up home-made explosives, floating down the river on a wooden log and doing whatever dangerous stuff we could invent." She just stares blankly "oh that's weird/boring". I am much into sport, and she started alongside with me as well like exercise and running. My wife says to her "just study not to be dumb in life" (she is excellent performer at school btw) but I laugh and say, she realizes that investment into the shape of her ass is going to pay much higher dividends than good marks from geography. Greetings to all fathers with chicks.

[deleted] · 2017-04-16T10:24:43+00:00

The latest episode of Beige Phillip show talks about this. These days people treat their daughters like they're special just because they're girls and these girls grow up to be women who think that they're special because they've got pussy and pussy is the end all for men.

Blue pill men will do anything for a woman just to have the woman be around them. I can't count how many times I've heard faggot friends say "I can't come bro, I got plans with my girl". The woman just has to be there and once she leaves the blue piller's life turns upside down.

Teach your daughter at a young that she needs more than her vagina in order to get a real man once she grows up because if a women is giving me nothing more than pussy then the only thing she gets in return is some good dicking and nothing more.

A lot of men have raised sluts and my dick thanks them for that but as a red piller you better do what's right.

LarsAvatar · 2017-04-16T00:21:27+00:00

I have two daughters myself, ages 14 and 11. I don't agree with the OP that a 1950's type lifestyle is best for my daughters -- nor is it very realistic in current culture. Should she follow the 1950's path, it's highly likely it will be a boring, sexless marriage after about 10 years. And there's a high risk she could become too dependent on him -- then she's left in a tough spot if there's a divorce. Lifetime monogamous marriage is over -- we need to accept that and try to find alternatives that can work. I admire Blackdragon for doing a lot of trailblazing in this area.

adam-l · 2017-04-16T21:49:32+00:00

I was at a table with an old woman today. She had lost her husband, a couple of years ago. He was quite the old-alpha type, tall, looks, laid-back. He gave her two children, gave her a strong torso to cower behind when shit hit the fan.

She never stopped whining. Up until the day her husband died, she was nagging him. Even now, she keeps complaining that no-one gave her anything. She will die in a few years, bitter and disappointed. Not because she didn't have a good life, not because she didn't have a good man taking care of her. Because she cannot feel gratitude.

So here's a thought. Women cannot let go of their privilege - not because they are women, but because they are privileged. The most they can do, is have some gratitude for what men do for them. Gratitude, the opposite of entitlement. We men do not betray out daughters, the way women betray their sons. We won't make them serve the male imperative, we want the best for them. But getting your daughter to have some gratitude for what men (will) do for her, is going to enrich her life and make her happier.

XenithTheCompetent · 2017-04-16T07:11:45+00:00

Hey, I just want to warn you that there is no way she should or will save herself for marriage. If she does and it turns out that the two are incompatible in the bedroom, then that is going to be a shitty marriage.

Just let her try things, but in a controlled way. Good luck.

NikoMyshkin · 2017-04-16T10:02:59+00:00

I've looked at studies on what makes a happy relationship, and the highest success rates are usually religious, move into a new house together, didn't live together before hand, waited until after marriage for their first sexual experience, and are absolutely committed to each other.

I've heard people cite the opposite as being true - I'd appreciate sources on these so as to be able to defend them.

nebder · 2017-04-16T15:26:58+00:00

I have a daughter who's in 4th grade. I separated from her household when she was 2 to be with my ex-wife (the ex that led me to the pill). My daughter has a history of behavioral issues. Big fits and severe emotional breakdowns and irrational fears. I attribute a portion of that behavior to me being a shitty BP man who did not correctly captain the ship and assert myself as a masculine dominant figure.

I have lost 40 lbs so I'm not a tubbo. I stopped drinking every day to avoid reality. I am a masculine dominant ACTION role model now. I do not accept disrespect from her. I set boundaries that are upheld. I'm literally gaming my daughter. Here's the rub: she has improved markedly in this time. There's still ways to go but god damn it's like she's blossoming under the new me.

We've discussed boys. She's already asked a few boys out and got rejected. She'll get her period before too long and then we'll start having some serious discussions. She will be fully versed to understand and/or counteract PUA. I'll teach her that what's she's truly looking for is locking in a solid red pill male. As her father, I owe her the instructions to make her best way through life. We've already started on improving her social skills with a how to win friends book club.

She will be a woman. They have their own biological agenda in life. Humans are rational creatures that can understand their biological drives and work with what it's trying to tell you what to do. I will explain the way the world actually works compared to the bs you're fed to believe. I must eventually set her free to make her own path in life but I can set a framework for her decision making.

TL;DR: Game your daughter in her youth. Prepare her for the real world. It's the best way to love and guide her.

RedMoonAscendant · 2017-04-16T07:24:36+00:00

TRP works on all women, because all women are like that.

ALL women.

Daughter age 8. Daughter age 14. Stripper. Prostitute. Mother. Grandmother. Cousin. Sister. Wife. Girlfriend.

TRP works on all women, because ALL women are like that.

hawkeaglejesus · 2017-04-16T16:18:22+00:00

To me it's about teaching a child what's best for them long term, even if it makes them upset short term.

A child doesn't know what's good for it because it doesn't have any experience. So you as a parent have to control their natural urges and provide guidance. A good parent controls what their child eats because a child left to its own devices will consume cookies and soda all day. The sugary snacks will make the child feel good immediately, followed by a tummy ache, and long term obesity health issues.

Just as women's natural urges were controlled in the past, today we're seeing the effects of leaving women to their own devices. Sure, being a slut and getting tons of sex/validation feels good in the moment, but then you get the tummy ache of guys not calling back, and long term emotional/social health effects where you lose the ability to pair bond and no one wants to commit to a slut with tons of emotional baggage.

There's a reason the #1 statistical outlier for unmarried women ages 30+, more than any other demographic, is the consumption of wine and anti-depressants.

RubyOrchid13 · 2017-04-16T02:26:37+00:00

How do you figure that marriage is religious? I'm going to assume that you mean Christianity, as you would probably not say that if she choose something like Islam or to be pagan. Anyways, you are aware that the idea of marriage predates Christianity by many thousands of years?

throwawaydefriended · 2017-04-16T00:52:20+00:00

As for my daughter, I want what's best for them. Going to bars and clubs and being a slut is not what's best for her. Saving herself for marriage and building a relationship and future with another man (or woman, don't care) that has also saved themselves for her is the best possible outcome for a relationship.

Do you want her to be happy? I think you're overlooking the fact that a "man who saved themselves for her" might not be someone she'd be attracted to, and she'd be miserable.

As far as I'm concerned, marriage is a completely religious thing, and if you aren't religious, you really shouldn't be getting married.

Is your daughter religious though? If not, why should she not enjoy practicing sexual strategy? Or is there a difference between that and being a slut.

Archwinger · 2017-04-16T11:35:37+00:00

One daughter here.

If she can't have an awesome cage fighting career, this post outlines the second best route for her.

tankriderr · 2017-04-16T13:22:08+00:00

How can one be red pill and yet believe in religious shambles is beyond me.

Muffmuncher · 2017-04-17T01:25:17+00:00

Wow, you've got issues, man! I can see you love your daughters, but your beliefs are going to tear you apart as they grow up into women.

I've been a nice guy, and then I've been a red piller, and I ended up somewhere in the middle, once I saw all I had to. Let me tell you, you still have growing up to do.

For your own sake, I hope you think about what I've said here. You seem like a good man, if a little misled.

Aarxnw · 2017-04-16T08:45:50+00:00

This is one of the most cancerous comment sections I've ever seen, a lot of you really should not be giving advice about raising children, despite what you may think I'm quite sure he's capable of raising his own daughters, and I'm certain he knows way more about it than you.

makeyourpoint · 2017-04-16T04:23:38+00:00

hate to break it to you but marriage isnt actually religious. Americans tend to keep the two together out of cultural reasons but in most countries marriage is quite secular. so your stance on marriage being reserved for religious people doesn't make much sense

HonestyOverCivility · 2017-04-16T05:30:43+00:00

Having a RP mindset is an advantage to both your daughters and your sons because you can convey to them how the world actually works instead of how it should work...unfortunately teens and young adults get a lot of bad information out there about the male/female dynamic. Case in point:

To boys: "Just be yourself" "women want a nice guy"

To girls: "he should love you in spite of your flaws" "explore your sexuality" "your number doesn't matter"

If fully intend to tell my kids how things actually work not societies false ideals. This doesn't mean I'm going to micromanage how my daughter dresses or whether she dates guys in high school. But it does mean I'll be blatantly honest about the value of a low partner count, the wall, etc.

donedreadpirate · 2017-04-16T15:04:51+00:00

I have a daughter... Agree with your sentiments. This person was just hamstering.

bastardstepchild · 2017-04-16T22:11:38+00:00

One daughter here, reddit would be happy to shove me into a gas chamber for my anti-liberal red pill views.

alphabeta49 · 2017-04-17T22:36:07+00:00

I have a son and a daughter. The way that I raise him will be very different than the way I raise her, though the structure is similar.

He will self improve in traditional masculine ways, at least at first. He can pick his own path once he is responsible enough to own it. He will learn to conquer, and find women worthy of his conquests. Men with lots of experience are most attractive. He will know what purpose his gender serves to women.
She will self improve in traditional feminine ways, at least at first. She can pick her own path once she is responsible enough to own it. She will learn to only be conquered by a man worthy of her. Women with little experience are most attractive. She will know what purpose her gender serves to men.

They are young still, barely out of the toddler stage. But I am already preparing myself to raise with two separate strategies and the shit tests that are undoubtedly coming, from all three of them.

VigilantRedRooster · 2017-04-15T23:42:57+00:00

I've never met a Redpiller with a daughter

I'm "a Redpiller" under a different username, old enough to have nieces and stepdaughters in their 20s. I also worked as an assistant mod for RedPillWomen when the old team flounced, because I consider the advice worthy of women as important as my own relatives.

I don't want my daughter to be apart of PUA culture or slut culture or any of that. I'd personally rather her build an empire for herself if she doesn't want to save herself for marriage. But if she does participate, the only chance she has to finding happiness is to find a red piller that is building a life and business and lock him down with marriage, and failing that finding a blue piller that is willing to give her his fortune.

I think you don't yet fully understand the Red Pill praxeology, especially how women implement it in a complementary manner to men. What you described were two very blue-pill alternatives: Be a Feminist, or marry a Beta Bux.

Women are the gatekeepers of sex, Men are the gatekeepers of commitment. That is the basic Sexual Marketplace transaction. Men and women both benefit from Red Pill understanding of the SMP, though they each implement it differently. It's easy to consider TRP some kind of threat to one's own daughters if this isn't thoroughly understood and taken into account.

c18shadow · 2017-04-16T04:42:06+00:00

Been on the red pill for three years I'm the red pill guy who got a girl that saved herself for me and am married to her now. My wife did it and your daughter's can to.

woodie_wood · 2017-04-16T03:19:55+00:00

Have a 3 y.o. daughter. Swallowed the pill 4years ago.

_MysticFox · Sun Apr 16 0:17:35 2017 UTC

I don't know how you're able to not hate women if they all have an innate desire and drive to destroy. Whether that's a man's health, wealth, or reputation. I've been standoffish and kept to myself with a few women and they haven't hesitated to sabotage me when they have the opportunity. They only like you for superficial reasons — your muscles, money, or social status. We're focusing on improving all of these, for Christ sake. At what point do we begin to do things for ourselves? Money to take them on events, muscles to get respect, and social status so they can show their friends? Fuck

Everything I see concerning them is through a Machiavellian lens: she wants to walk with you? Probably wants to get social proof. She's chatting with you during class? Probably wants to use you for notes later down the line. Acts happy when they see you? Their attempt to build trust. Even my fucking mother is attempting to use me as an investment tool so she can have both money and status.

They want to get into long term relationships to break you down, not a partnership where you both grow. They act like children and you're expected to tolerate them. You can't retaliate whether they verbally or physically attack you or you'll be ruined.

They want to whore around as well, unable to give affection or attach with guys because they decide they'd rather take dick. I'd always wanted a family, now I see that I'll get falsely accused, divorce raped, have a daughter, and so on. Hell, there was a poster a while back who talked about how she saw a very young, 4 or 5 years old, girl who was already stringing along orbiters who wanted to play with her, even offering the boy a hard slap in front of her friends in exchange for an invite to play with them.

And beyond that, why would I ever let a woman kiss my children with the same mouths that have taken so much dick?

Pastelitomaracucho · 2017-04-16T11:02:23+00:00

Main reason being redpillers are mostly young men who won't settle.

Not hard to explain, really.

Mckallidon · 2017-04-16T17:37:09+00:00

Lol. Funny most of friends are still trying for a boy.

Asmodeus04 · 2017-04-16T19:24:29+00:00

There is irony in the fact that you are raising a daughter that the members of this very sub would despise.

djthiago1 · 2017-04-17T19:12:07+00:00

Extremelly relevant pic. Virgin wives are BEST wives.

https://i.imgur.com/rrLe319.jpg

nicetimeisback · 2017-04-16T11:50:18+00:00

This post is quite bp imo, by the age of 14 your princess will already had been pumped and dumped from a few chads, at the age of 18 her ncount will be way above 20-30,and it will be only the beginning of her cc riding.

This is not 1950 anymore, social medias, Internet, big cities, she's going to slut around a lot, it's her nature, that is what will make her happy and fulfilled in life, at the age of 30-35 after being pumped by a hundreds chads, she will find a bob who will provide for her (and maybe her child), and that's it.

This is how it works here, if you want her to stay Virgin until marriage you better move live in some Muslim country.

funinsun10 · 2017-04-16T03:49:33+00:00

Ditto.. Two daughters and im mostly red pill so nobody will take their inheritance

RPAlternate42 · 2017-04-16T03:31:09+00:00

I told them I have 2. No response to that. I guess, since you were the first to say something, they jumped on you, then I said I have 2 and they went... "shit, now I need to invent a new reason to hate them."

I treat my daughters as I treat my wife or any woman I would interact with... really any person.

maniclurker · 2017-04-16T06:53:42+00:00

AWALT. Want what you want. It doesn't matter.

aanarchist · 2017-04-16T17:49:12+00:00

hope you didn't raise your daughter into a sociopathic whore.

SuperSneekerz · 2017-04-17T00:09:43+00:00

My PE teacher is pretty alpha and he has a daughter in elementary...

Insydeinformation · 2017-04-19T03:41:50+00:00

It's funny how people still fall for this stupid logic. The majority of feminists have sons. The majority of men don't give a fuck about other men even though they have sons.

Likewise, female strangers have absolutely nothing to do with my family members.

good_guy_submitter · 2017-04-16T01:09:15+00:00

a man (or woman, don't care)

Hopefully you do care. Unlike gay men, there is no such thing as a homosexual woman. Women are at most, bisexual. And in lesbian marriages her chance for divorce is astronomical.

If you do a great job raising your daughters you won't have to worry about it anyway though. They won't ever claim to be lesbians. That is a lie only bluepill women tell themselves.

There are a lot of other misconceptions in your post that need to be corrected but this was the one I wanted to talk about. The other commenters seem to be on to the rest.

Welcome to the fold fellow dad. I too have a daughter.

Edit: saving this comment. The cucks downvoting from other subreddits make it so much better.

_MysticFox · 2017-04-16T05:07:01+00:00

I don't know how you're able to not hate women if they all have an innate desire and drive to destroy. Whether that's a man's health, wealth, or reputation. I've been standoffish and kept to myself with a few women and they haven't hesitated to sabotage me when they have the opportunity. They only like you for superficial reasons — your muscles, money, or social status. We're focusing on improving all of these, for Christ sake. At what point do we begin to do things for ourselves? Money to take them on events, muscles to get respect, and social status so they can show their friends? Fuck

Everything I see concerning them is through a Machiavellian lens: she wants to walk with you? Probably wants to get social proof. She's chatting with you during class? Probably wants to use you for notes later down the line. Acts happy when they see you? Their attempt to build trust.

Even my fucking mother is attempting to use me as an investment tool so she can have both money and status. I was treated like a fucking plant; get watered, get fed, clean waste, yell at it for not doing enough, attack it if you get frustrated enough. Father was worse, leaning more physical than anything, but both their words cut deep. The only fucking people that should be on your side and have your back. I'm set back years of improvement where everyone around me is socially apt, fit, interesting/have hobbies, have friends, and have money. Even friends will become impossible to make once I'm out of university, and who knows if they're even on your side. They'd rather screw you over, maybe not as much as girls, but they will. Anyways...

They want to get into long term relationships to break you down, not a partnership where you both grow. They act like children and you're expected to tolerate them. You can't retaliate whether they verbally or physically attack you or you'll be ruined. Even the filthy <6/10s expect royal treatment or you can bet your ass they'll fuck your over somehow

They want to whore around as well, unable to give affection or attach with guys because they decide they'd rather take dick. I'd always wanted a family, now I see that I'll get falsely accused, divorce raped, have a daughter, and so on. Hell, there was a poster a while back who talked about how she saw a very young, 4 or 5 years old, girl who was already stringing along orbiters who wanted to play with her, even offering the boy a hard slap in front of her friends in exchange for an invite to play with them.

And beyond that, why would I ever let a woman kiss my children with the same mouths that have taken so much dick?

loknarash · 2017-04-16T03:28:08+00:00

The Red Pill is a reaction to multiculturalism, cultural Marxism, and the effeminization of men that led to feminism. It can be about getting your dick wet. But it also is a stand against social degeneracy and making the nuclear family strong again.

dking168 · 2017-04-15T23:41:51+00:00

As you write this, Chad is emptying his load into your daughters. The truth is yo can be the ideal parent but your kids (regardless whether male or female) will do what they think is right for them despite your objections. It's just the mental picture that is hard to swallow unlike your daughter who will swallow Chad's load with ease.

Subalpine · 2017-04-16T19:58:08+00:00

saving herself for marriage? is that what you did? I think it's weird to expect kids to do that in this day and age. it seems more practical to teach them how to practice safe sex?

ImSecretlyATurtle · 2017-04-16T21:10:43+00:00

Realistically, what most people here want their daughters to be is what they want in a woman.

Ultimately the best path to success for a woman would be to use her social advantages. First and foremost her physical appearance is key. As a woman being attractive is critical to success. Second, she should learn to use her looks to manipulate betas. Why would she marry a redpiller or an alpha male? She can't use or control him. We as men want what is beneficial for us. But as a woman she should do what benefits her. Which is using beta men's desperate desire for pussy to obtain a high social status and improve her financial situation.

Your advice is good for what you want. But it's not what will help a woman achieve the maximum level of success. Which for women is defined by their financial situation and social status.

thatwaseasy247 · 2017-04-16T20:01:18+00:00

This is ass backwards for everything I've read on here. From what I've read redpill see no value in women except a hole to stick their dick. So how can you encourage your daughters to lock someone down when you think that is wrong? You'd essentially encourage their SO to cheat on them because thats the alpha way. You people are confused about what you want in life.

Title	"I've never met a redpiller with a daughter"
Author	lemming1607
Upvotes	397
Comments	242
Date	April 15, 2017 10:47 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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