What is something you've learned throughout your seduction journey?

focus_flow69 · 2022-06-19T18:35:27+00:00

This is more from a long term relationship perspective, but I think it can apply in the initial phases of dating as well in a more subtle manner.

Most women, whether they know it or not, want a dependable man in their life that they can trust to lead them, help them navigate through life while having fun.

Don't confuse this with simping. You do NOT try to gain their trust and show leadership by doing them favours and catering to their every need. Just don't.

The first part is biological survival instincts and the second part is quality of life. Take care of them and have fun while doing it.

They may say they are just looking to hook up and see lots of people and not interested in something long term, but if you can present yourself as this man, they will typically gravitate towards you and eventually want to lock you down. The game is much easier when they want something from you as opposed to you wanting something from them. Make yourself the prize. And believe me, it is a prize for women when they land a guy they can trust to lead AND have fun with.

So this makes the game simple. Be this man through your actions. Project yourself as this person when you interact with women and everything else will fall in place. The actions can be simple and nuanced. Something as simple as leading them through the dance floor, taking the initiative to kiss her, planning a well thought out date etc. These actions when done over and over again convey you are this man who can lead, and when they see you as this person, something clicks in them to want you more in their life. It is very critical that THEY come to this conclusion on their own. There is not 1 particular thing you can do or say to convince them you are this man. They have to come to this conclusion, concisouly or subconcisouly on their own through your actions and way you carry yourselves.

And the last caveat of course is they must at least find you to be somewhat physically attractive. They don't have to think you are the hottest guy on earth, they just have to have some physical attraction, and the way you carry yourself can take care of the rest. This means you must take care of the basics. Hygiene, hair cut, style, clothes that fit, breath, teeth, skin, posture etc.

And yes, you can do all these things and some women still won't give a shit. That's just life and why I said MOST women. There is no secret to being this person that can universally attract ANY woman. Every woman is different, but there are certain things most women gravitate towards. This is what I've learned from my expeirnece.

MasterTeacher123 · 2022-06-19T13:26:57+00:00

The platonic buddy thing is so damn true. Dudes act like her brother on dates and are surprised they get treated like one.

Electric_kundalini · 2022-06-19T13:37:08+00:00

. Women are far more in-tune with Men, than Men are with Women. This is why meditation CAN be a game changer for Men. Become aware of what you’re projecting outwards, Women WILL pickup on it. It’s not mumbo jumbo.

. Women are far more sexual than Men are, but they have to feel comfortable around you for you to see it.

. If you’re projecting confidence Women will naturally test you (they might ignore you or act disinterested to see how you react. Sometimes it’s projection as well).

. Seen as though Women are sexual beings, you’re shooting yourself in the foot if you don’t feel comfortable in your own sexuality as a Man. It’s ok to be attracted to a Woman and show interest. It only gets creepy if she’s not interested and you can’t take a hint.

throwawayk5zq47j6wd3 · 2022-06-19T17:44:10+00:00

Looks are really important. Confidence is very important. Taking calculated risks is better than regret. Always upgrading yourself. You're the main character and put your interest above everyone else

DestinyChitChat · 2022-06-19T13:59:51+00:00

To bounce off of what you said:

A woman's reality is truly different from a man's

I agree that you have to strike while the iron is hot. The mistake is thinking that they are malicious in their behavior or we are somehow better than them because WE MEN don't do that, right? Right?

Imagine constantly having people treat you nice because they want sex from you. And trust me they don't all look good or have good personalities. And most of them are physically bigger and stronger than you. And you have to screen them. It becomes an ocean of people that just wanna fuck. How do you determine the genuine from the fake? How much energy do you have to sort through them all? Eventually you'll have shortcuts and people will dub you as a "cold b*tch" when you are simply adapting.

This isn't meant to kiss a woman's ass because of her reality. It's just meant to shed some light for other men (not you) to not become bitter because "women are confusing." They're not. You just haven't truly understood the world they live in.

CocoBabeNYC · 2022-06-19T14:04:30+00:00

The biggest lesson I've learned is that the seduction community makes one big and very wrong assumption which all of their behaviors and actions follow from. The assumption is that you start with zero attraction, the woman is up there and you are down here and you have to work hard to create attraction and get her interested in you.

This assumption is extremely flawed. Attraction is about who you are not what you do. But it explains why the majority of men think dating is an uphill battle and that women are frustrating and difficult. They actually create all of this work and frustration for themselves.

Instead, as a man you must realize that the assumption you have to operate out of is: she's already attracted to me, I don't have to do ANYTHING but if I wanted to I would just go talk to her and see if she's interesting".

There are a few things that will block you from making this assumption comfortably and they have to do with low self esteem, not feeling deserving, etc. Work on those issues first and eventually you will start feeling more comfortable with acting as if every woman is already interested (this should be your table stakes and NOT "I have to create attraction with this woman who cannot distinguish me from a pile of steaming dog shit").

mookyvon · 2022-06-19T17:15:16+00:00

That every man is after your woman.

NiNj4_C0W5L4Pr · 2022-06-19T18:36:28+00:00

Well said OP. I would add that when you get better at seduction, you can plant seeds of naughty thoughts into her head and get her simmering all day thinking about having sex with you. If you master that, you can get her so horny she comes to your place and attacks & ravages you. It's a great feeling when you learn how to turn that flame into a bonfire.

MeWuzBornIn1990 · 2022-06-19T15:47:49+00:00

That all women just want to be led by a decent guy.

LandscapeClear1630 · 2022-06-19T17:07:37+00:00

Never to ask for advice on Reddit.

Choice-Welder1482 · 2022-06-20T00:32:51+00:00

The thing that dudes don't get, that I'm JUST now realizing. All women are different. Just like men. Way way way different from one another. Although...of course there are similarities.

A couple examples in my life. Both of these girls are same attractivness level depending on your type. Not ugly, for sure. Pretty attractive. (but not smokeshows)

Sexually, one girl got EXTREMELY offended when I moaned "baby" when I was literally cumming in her mouth. She brought it up afterward in a "dont call me baby until you are really committed to me" way. She was mad that I didn't seem committed to her and she knew I was still on apps. She even told me "no guy ever called me baby while we had sex", implying I was kind of a "weirdo".

Probably 30 days later, I took a vacation, met a girl, slightly hotter than her, through a mutual friend. She invited me to the beach, rubbed me down with lotion in a seductive way. When we went to a bar the 2nd time meeting, she flat out said "I feel like you wanna kiss me." So when we got to her car, we made out, went to the beach all day. She took me to her house, even though it wasn't allowed by her landlord, was plannin on taking a shower, but didn't even get to that. She was fucking me like crazy within 5 seconds of walking into her house, sand everywhere, didn't give a fuck. Moaning "baby" like 500 times, calling me daddy, etc.

I knew girl #2 way way less than I knew girl #1. They are different people. One girl thought I was super weird for doing something that the other WANTED me to do. And I was fucking them both. It kind of made me realize that people are just drastically different, all around.

Dakessian · 2022-06-19T20:37:46+00:00

You said it best, YOU HAVE TO MAKE MOVES.

getyahfuckingyeeted · 2022-06-19T23:26:43+00:00

If you treat her like a platonic buddy on those dates, her interest will plummet and it's game over.

How do I treat her romantically though? And what's the difference?

daddysgotanew · 2022-06-19T15:49:33+00:00

Looks are truly the only thing that initially matters. For both sexes. Anyone that denies this just has their head in the sand

eszibit · 2022-06-19T14:21:02+00:00

That most women are shallow and boring and social media is extremely important for them.

That most women don't value men of integrity or good morals, they just value looks and status/money -> that's how you end up with good girls running towards assholes that look good or are doctors/lawyers etc.

Most women live in the moment like you said, but not just about the date, but most of their lives. One moment they make plans but if something better presents itself or they have some emotional flare up they will cancel or ghost or change their minds without regarding other people. It happens with their friends too, that's why it's rare to see a long lasting friendship between women.

Also they talk behind each others backs like crazy, gossip and mean spirited and they love drama. One day best friends, in a few weeks mortal enemies.

There are some good women out there but i think the percentage is smaller and smaller by each generation. Too many people give them benefit of the doubt just because they look good or are women.

shxbxx · 2022-06-19T14:11:39+00:00

The attitude required to seduce is similar to fighting lethally

LionVenom10 · 2022-06-19T17:21:43+00:00

You don’t really seduce women, you can challenge them but unless you’re Godly handsome you won’t attract them, it’s just mental gymnastics.

ImAGhostOooooooo · 2022-06-19T15:51:50+00:00

WHAT 🤣🤣🤣 no, just no 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

belka24 · 2022-06-19T15:52:55+00:00

nothing is acquired

bodhi_tree93 · 2022-06-19T21:54:10+00:00

I find sometimes though women are just insecure or self-conscious or not comfortable with their own sexuality so they won't give you a window to escalate. I've had this happen to me and there isn't much I can do in these situations as you can't force escalation, it has to be consensual. So probably best to just move on to ones who give you clear windows I think.

MonkeyKingSilver · 2022-06-19T22:00:05+00:00

Woman are unpredictable and uncertain with what they want or have

VanillaCider2021 · 2022-06-19T22:15:40+00:00

-Never lose focus on yourself, your business, your work, this is always the most important factor. Take risks and learn from mistakes. The confidence you gain from taking risks will impact your confidence with women. The number one thing I can say that has made me more confident is starting a business, almost losing everything, and then succeeding. When my business made it my confidence shot up in all areas of my life. I was no longer scared of failing or rejection because I flirted with bankruptcy, lost a relationship, had no money, and I still made it because I didn't give up. It humbled me.

-Don't take it personal if a girl loses interest in you. As my confidence has grown I find myself overconfident sometimes and I will get upset if a girl loses interest. Luckily, this doesn't happen as much these days, which is probably why it stings when it does. I try to remember all the girls I lost interest in and that it goes both ways.

-There will always be someone better looking or more successful than you. Don't get caught up in a competition as there are plenty of fish in the sea.

jazerac · 2022-06-20T00:13:31+00:00

You don't need a full tank of gas to get where you want to go... sometimes a quarter or a half a tank works. Women are no different.

It seems like the less effort I put in, the better results I get.

Kidcouger · 2022-06-20T01:05:39+00:00

This goes back to before I learned about Seddit, I learned this through trial and error

But always go for the person you find attractive, Even if you give the girl/person you aren't 100% about a chance they can still turn out to be a really awful person and treat you like trash

Ironically I found some of the prettiest girls to be actual sweethearts

This goes to my second point: Dont't let her good looks be an excuse to treat you like trash

SomeRedShirt · 2022-06-20T05:47:17+00:00

Weird. Leaving this sub

Coconut-Lemon_Pie · 2022-06-20T06:12:34+00:00

I agree completely except seeing someone romantically can start before that. Even just a kiss can work.

VaalesteXD · 2022-06-20T06:30:24+00:00

That no matter how many videos/reddit posts I see, each situation will be different, girls don't act all the same way and there really isn't a good guide to "get girls", except for the super basic tips that generally apply to any date

samozleg · 2022-06-20T07:18:24+00:00

spicy_simba · 2022-06-20T07:51:52+00:00

1) Moderation.

Most people are either not trying at all, or try harding, the same person might oscillate between both states at different phases of life.

2) Beware of lust

if you are having a crush, there is significant chance lust is taking over how you treat them and allow them to treat you, which might go against your values and boundaries, once the lust goes away, you may feel the pain of going against your values or boundaries.

3) stay centered

should i call them or should i not call them ?

The third option is to continue about with your day, and trust you calling or not calling is not a big deal, what should be a big deal is keeping centered around your day and what's important in it, do not allow another person to become more important than your whole day,

Royal_Habit_5286 · 2022-06-20T07:55:57+00:00

my V card is still active

Juiceunderthetable · 2022-06-20T11:31:10+00:00

Embrace being a man. Unless you're on a date with a hardcore intersectional -insert wacky colour-haired feminist (which you probably shouldn't be doing anyway) Women in general like a man to be a man and take the lead, be stoic, be funny but don't take any BS and be protective, it is especially important to display your ability to do these things on the first few dates imo you don't have to be super macho 24/7 but wimpy bois won't get any cause society taught them how to be a coward instead of carrying their balls.

Title	What is something you've learned throughout your seduction journey?
Author	Everlast23
Upvotes	191
Comments	115
Date	June 19, 2022 12:56 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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