It's taboo to admit it, but I wish my unborn baby wasn't a beastly boy!

JSJMRA · 2012-12-14T04:25:16+00:00

I've never read anything that was such a perfect mix of stupidity and evil as this. She has really, really pathetically ridiculous ideas of what a "boy" is (and what a "girl" is for that matter). Boys are "yucky" and "smelly"? Really? She's being serious? Let me guess, boys are also made of "snails and puppy dog tails" and girls are made of "sugar, spice, and" everything nice"? What a stupid, evil, immature, horrible piece of rotting excrement. I can't believe this crap was published in a world that supposedly showers me with privelege.

ObsidianOverlord · 2012-12-14T04:08:09+00:00

It's taboo to be an awful person? Who'd a thunk it.

crazy89 · 2012-12-14T04:31:46+00:00

At least the comments in the article are uplifting.

oneiorosgrip · 2012-12-14T05:34:08+00:00

What a stupid, stupid woman. Left unchanged, her attitude will ensure that her son grows up feeling unwanted, that she'll never realize the wonder of being a little boy's mommy, her daughter will never understand the joy and privilege of being big sister to a little brother. And I wonder if she's not projecting her feelings onto her husband, too - maybe he agrees with her, or maybe he feels pressured to share her feelings on the subject of their baby's gender.

After all, if she can't understand other males, it's entirely probably that she doesn't understand him, either... especially since she has such glaring misconceptions about masculinity and holds such obvious contempt for men. Imagine being married to a woman who thinks that way. Or being raised by her. How horrible. :(

smegnose · 2012-12-14T04:22:20+00:00

Now if feminists were the kinds of people they claim to be, they'd be the first ones to want to say some mean shit to this woman's face.

JonathonWally · 2012-12-14T06:23:13+00:00

I wish the people who write articles like this would realize that the internet is forever, and someday the son she and her husband already pretty much hate will read this article

It's like Hannah Rosin's son and the title of her book. These women don't care a whit about the feelings of their sons, they just want to make a buck

AryoBarzan · 2012-12-14T03:11:35+00:00

Bernard's video response

Also, looks like Peter Lloyd wrote an article referencing this bigot: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2246471/A-bigot-bra--Male-writer-responds-Esther-Walkers-admission-doesnt-want-baby-boy.html#addComment

rusty_chipmunk · 2012-12-14T05:31:04+00:00

How the hell her husband is still with her and is going to have a 2nd kid with her, considering she thinks all boys grow up into boring selfish men.

This woman is disgusting and really ignorant.

Apellosine · 2012-12-14T08:30:47+00:00

Best part of the article:

"Yet, despite my fears, rationally speaking, I know I am being unfair. Of all the little boys I know -- and I know an awful lot, including my three nephews -- I only know two who are really horrid, whom I avoid because they are so violent and crazed."

A few paragraphs later:

"And, by the same token, I know several vile little girls..."

She knows several vile little girls and 2 horrid little boys and yet still has a prejudice against having a little boy? That right there is prejudice, forgetting the facts that she herself presented and going against them not a preference.

Not to mention that her own daughter exhibits some of the personality that she so reviles in little boys ("...she's fond of heading straight to the most enormous, stinking puddle she can find and jumping in it."

radrler · 2012-12-14T12:30:45+00:00

and will turn into boring, selfish men.

well, that's not the biggest sweeping generalization I've ever heard, or anything. this is sexism, you cow.

starkhalo · 2012-12-14T05:41:57+00:00

Okay. MensRights. Let's have a conversation.

I see you posting from dailymail.co.uk a lot. The articles you post are always ridiculous, I completely agree. This one is no exception. This woman who writes it acts like she's writing for an audience of uneducated brits from the 1940s. It's hilarious, and it makes me wish I could shut down her column, because she's an idiot. This is true.

However. dailymail.co.uk is a tabloid, with sensationalist writing targeting to the same women who would, in America, pick up People and Ok! magazine and follow the latest scandal obsessively.

These aren't the people you should hate. You should laugh at them and call them dumb, because these articles are dumb. But this isn't what Feminism is, and this isn't want women stand for. This is not what educated, enlightened people who understand gender roles read.

I'll laugh with you on these, but don't confuse it with feminism.

Thank you, that is all. Now, back to the laughing and calling her ridiculous, which I whole heartedly agree with.

circuitology · 2012-12-14T14:07:48+00:00

turn into disgusting teenage boys and then boring, selfish men

Bahahahahahaha, pure gold. How does this woman muster the intelligence to successfully use her respiratory system?

Boethias · 2012-12-14T05:20:04+00:00

I can only hope that actually having a boy will change her mind. Otherwise it's gonna be tough for that kid growing up.

2012-12-14T05:55:54+00:00

"But what use is a plain-speaking boy to me?"

I read the whole thing. Speechless. She's out to lunch in the brain & maturity department.

She honestly seems like her maturity level is that of a 14 year old.

2012-12-14T07:15:27+00:00

I have never read anything that made my blood boil more than a mother stereotyping, pigeonholing and declaring her unborn son not just unwanted, but detestable, disposable. Say this about daughters. Say this about daughters I dare you.

2012-12-14T07:58:31+00:00

That poor, poor child.

lovelogicrainbows · 2012-12-14T08:47:17+00:00

People like this are having kids, and meanwhile there are tons of families who can't get them for one reason or another but would be better, more deserving parents...

bh3244 · 2012-12-14T09:44:41+00:00

what a dumb cunt

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2012-12-14T13:32:50+00:00

Apparently SRS is commenting at the dailymail:

I absolutely agree with Ms. Walker - EVERYTHING she has written is true. Men are a weak species. Even my female dog who sadly Passed Away was smarter and cleaner than the little male dog I now have. Esther, please, no matter what insults, harrassment or pressure you receive about your TRUTHFULNESS do not cave in and appease all the ignorant commentators. I have no doubt you will treat your new son with love and respect but I fully understand what your sentiments. Bravo! Well written. Thank you for having the courage to say what no one else would.

It's quite common to feel this way. As someone who has a boy and wanted a girl I am constantly told how I am pitied, how horrible it is I have a boy, how I will miss out on an important relationship for woman--that with her daughter, ignored by other mothers who have girls like I'm some parasite you need to be away from, etc, etc. No baby shower, as no one showed up because he was a boy and no one wants to buy ugly boy clothing. He will not get Christmas presents from his grandparents. Why? He's an unwanted boy to them. I hope he isn't into trucks or sports or that kind of garbage, but I bet he will be and it will break my heart because all I wanted was a daughter to bond with and play with and share my interests with. I am not having another child because I know I would have another boy. It would kill me.

In China (and other countries) families openly prefer boy children and nobody seems to care at all about that. This one woman prefers a female child and all of a sudden shes the devil!!! Crazy.

(note: this is absolutely untrue)

I totally get where the author is coming from - I've always hated little boys, and teenage boys, had an awful time with them when I was younger. Probably explains why I'm with a man 15years older than me - boys and young men are stupid and immature. My other half has 2 teenage boys and whilst they're not horrible, they irritate me beyond belief. Saying all this I'm sure if I'm ever lucky enough to have children and I have a boy, he will be guided by me and grow up to be the opposite of the horrendous boys I had experience of in my childhood and teens.

Young people are immature. . . .

It's not necessarily taboo to express this opinion. The sentiments here are similar to those expressed to me by a girl in Venezuela. She hated having a boy, even though he was at that time 5 years old. She was convinced that being a boy meant he was possessed by the devil and had bad genes. Mind you, she also beat him regularly with belts, shoes, hands and even the cable from the television. The poor mite cowered every time she raised her voice, hit himself on the head to pre-empt her assaults and even ran headlong into the walls. All of this confirmed her in the opinion that boys were possessed by the devil. I presume this woman's unborn child faces a similar fate.

What's her reddit name?

mark_lee · 2012-12-14T13:55:47+00:00

This one goes beyond just not liking her possible future boy. She also shows a distaste for her daughter being anything but the perfect little stereotype of what a "girl" should be. God help her if her daughter grows up to be less interested in dresses and dolls than in balls and cars. She'll likewise hate that child for not being " a fashion accessory to mould in your own image, or a crazy idealised image you saw in a magazine."

TheAtomicOption · 2012-12-14T08:32:59+00:00

As others have said, stop linking things from the DailyMail.

That said, this reminds me of a story my dad loves to tell: When I was being potty trained my mom constantly exclaimed how "girls are so much easier" but she hadn't met my little sister yet.

AloysiusC · 2012-12-14T15:06:28+00:00

Wow! There's that "sacred" maternal love we keep having waved in our faces.

railmaniac · 2012-12-14T08:09:54+00:00

She's entitled to her opinions, as much as the next person. What I fail to understand is why her opinion gets published at all. Who is this woman?

2012-12-14T06:41:02+00:00

Once an idiot, always an idiot. Esther Walker, folks.

2012-12-14T07:10:41+00:00

I noticed they had to turn off the comments after to many decent people spoke up vehemently against her.

Lube_it_with_blood · 2012-12-14T10:04:20+00:00

Out on the street I dialled Giles, with a shaking hand. He feels exactly the same as I do. His adoration, worship, love and fanatical devotion to our daughter since the day of her birth has made the idea of having a boy unthinkable.

I can't for the life of me think, even though it speaks of compatibility, that her husband is as prejudiced towards his gender as she is.

radrler · 2012-12-14T12:50:09+00:00

Considering what they do to baby girls in China, the author really should be ashamed of herself.

HoundDogs · 2012-12-14T05:26:57+00:00

I didn't know the Daily Mall was reporting on the pathetic personal preferences of pedantic people.

Jovial_Gorilla · 2012-12-14T06:34:42+00:00

It's not that taboo of a thing to admit, unfortunately. However, I guess that's one of the reasons the MRM exists...

Crimson_D82 · 2012-12-14T09:21:31+00:00

I couldn't read the whole thing, my head won't fit that far up my own ass or anyone elses. I hope they take the boy away or have the common sense to give him to another family.

EpicJ · 2012-12-14T11:09:04+00:00

I wonder how the kid reacts when he's old enough to understand what she wrote

CaptainVanderdecken · 2012-12-14T13:07:50+00:00

This lady has "reproductive rights", she should exercise them. With a bit more introspection she should realize that she is not up to the role of "mother" & avoid getting herself pregnant again.

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2012-12-14T13:13:03+00:00

They kid is royally screwed if it's a boy.

The mom has admitted to hating it and it would take all of a 5 second search in the future to find this article later. If he doesn't one of his classmates will.

There were reasons why I could confess my boy aversion only to my sister. Mothers who declare a gender preference out loud are breaking a huge taboo — the acceptable thing to say is that your only care is that the child is healthy and happy.

I must have missed that trend. I hear mothers wishing they had a girl all the time.

But the truth is I like girls, I understand girls and I’ve always dreaded the idea of having a boy. People say how emotionally uncomplicated boys are and how manipulative and fussy girls are. But what use is a plain-speaking boy to me? I wouldn’t know where to start. I know exactly where I am with girls and their petty mind games. I’ve played them myself. I’m a Grand Master of them.

So . . . boys are terrible because what they say is what they mean? Where is the husband in all this?

He wants only girls in his life, he confessed later. Sweet little girls who will stroke his face, kiss his nose and say ‘Love you Daddy’, not little boys with their dramatic weeing, endless reeling off of statistics, messiness and demands to kick around a football on freezing, dank Sunday mornings.

Ah, that explains it.

Just wait until they hit 13. Then . . . well then they aren't so sweet anymore.

/also aren't we all blank slates? How can the boys behave differently from the girls unless the parents train them to? Just teach your boy to sit there quietly, say sweet things, be manipulative, chatty, and not at all straightforward and play tea-time with his dolls. I'm sure that will go amazingly well and help prove that there is in fact no biological difference between boys and girls. ; )

brennanww · 2012-12-14T15:28:18+00:00

She needs help.

The_4th_Little_Pig · 2012-12-14T16:00:10+00:00

The comments are great.

calyx13 · 2012-12-14T16:36:40+00:00

What a vile bunch of creatures. My first-born was a son, and I really wanted a daughter because I knew we would only have two kiddos. Nope, I ended up with two crazy little boys that are the absolute loves of my life!

I think some amount of "wishing" one way or another is normal and natural. The contemptuous attitudes these women have, however, is anything but!

2012-12-14T16:37:22+00:00

Boys are gross; they attack their siblings with sticks, are obsessed with toilets, casually murder local wildlife and turn into disgusting teenage boys and then boring, selfish men.

Has her husband read this? Jesus.

Ma99ie · 2012-12-14T07:39:11+00:00

She wrote it for the same reason her momma's boy husband Giles writes outrageous things. The publicity.

theegrimrobe · 2012-12-14T09:05:17+00:00

Hopefully local social services will rehome the boy with a family that deserve him .... Rather than his vile,gutter-cunt mother and spineless mangina father.

Otherwise i can see mental damage might be the least of the problems he comes up against

2012-12-14T15:29:36+00:00

I like how she had to post pictures and talk about celebrities to get anyone to give a shit about her shitty, non-intellectual piece.

burnredatdawn · 2012-12-14T16:06:28+00:00

The thing in this article that made me feel the most uncomfortable, the most hatred I have felt toward a person in a long time was the line about how children are almost like a fashion accessory. Don't get me wrong, the sexism is bad, the whole hatred and total denial of love this child may well get is sad, but when she said the accessory line I could not think anything worse of her.

Peil · 2012-12-14T17:01:00+00:00

She should be sterilized and have her children taken away. Evil bitch.

Turtlelover73 · 2012-12-14T17:35:13+00:00

ok, aside from all the other ridiculous shit in this article, this line just made me want to take away her kids forever and never let her have any more

To offset the occasional hardship and boredom of looking after small children, you get in return a fashion accessory to mould in your own image, or a crazy idealised image you saw in a magazine.

Is this seriously how parents think of their kids? Please, tell me this is just this one insane woman's thoughts...

actanonverba8 · 2012-12-14T23:35:20+00:00

No matter how much blatant misandry there is, feminists (and many everyday women AND men for that matter) still deny, deny, deny there is a problem.

2012-12-14T07:40:44+00:00

I hope for her son's sake that she doesn't have a daughter as well...I imagine he would be ignored/painted with the worst of her playground stereotypes

2012-12-14T16:48:23+00:00

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2012-12-14T06:18:35+00:00

What a cake face.

Title	It's taboo to admit it, but I wish my unborn baby wasn't a beastly boy!
Author	AryoBarzan
Upvotes	110
Comments	118
Date	December 14, 2012 3:10 AM UTC (13 years ago)
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