Is it safe to blame women for the horrible state of modern dating?

Early-Christmas-4742 · 2023-01-24T12:37:32+00:00

Hakf of the posts on here are about the best way to pump and dump women and the other half seem to be complaining that women are the ones that won't commit. There are plenty of both sex that do and don't want to.

festethefoole1 · 2023-01-24T13:28:26+00:00

Meh, pretty much.

Main explanation for all this is that extreme sexual liberation has caused average women to be sexually exposed to distinctively above-average men.

5s and 6s are having sex with male 8s and 9s, but can’t secure them for a relationship.

This therefore raises their desired standards above what they’re able to attain for a long-term relationship and therefore, we are where we are.

There’s no great mystery to it, but however true it may be, and although not really the fault of any woman as an individual, it is a bit unflattering to womankind overall - so will always be hush-hushed and obfuscated.

itsokiloveu · 2023-01-24T12:43:47+00:00

In my opinion it has absolutely 0 to do with “modern technology”. The ONLY requirement men needed in our parents and grandparents generation was to be employed with a decent job. Basically, to be a provider.

Today, women already have jobs. Women build careers now. We graduate from university at significantly higher rates than men and are becoming more educated. We pay our own bills. We can provide for OURSELVES.

As a woman myself, all of my friends have the mentality of “what exactly is he bringing to the table that I can’t already bring to the table on my own?”.

If you’re unable to answer that question as a man, it’s very likely the reason you’re single.

As society has shifted and women have become a lot more independent (we no longer NEED men to exist and survive anymore), standards have risen. The absolute bare minimum of being employed is no longer impressive, it’s just normal.

Until a man can match my level of emotional intelligence, self-awareness, drive, motivation, educational level, and has a sense of humour I am unwilling to commit. Women aren’t settling anymore, we’re demanding equal treatment.

Clean_Mastodon5285 · 2023-01-24T13:01:51+00:00

I look at it like this

Women - Too many options, unrealistic standards and over inflated ego which leads them to become damaged and in a endless cycle of getting pumped and dumped by Chads and bad boys

Chads - Too many options, women chase them so they don't need to settle. They give horrible advice to non chads which lead those guys getting rejected while Chads continue to pump and dump endless amounts of women

Simps - These dudes give free attention and validation to women who don't want them which leads back to my 1st point

shestammie · 2023-01-24T13:18:58+00:00

Wah wah women don’t want to date inadequate men wah wah

I love modern dating. Exactly the right people are having fun and getting into relationships. The rest of ya’ll ordering body pillows. Good.

uncertain_confusion · 2023-01-24T12:46:34+00:00

You know, if I had to put my thumb on the jugular here, I’d say it’s your attitude towards women that unconsciously confirms your bias that it’s their fault you dont get any action.

Instead of blaming women, look at yourself and ask if you’re a datable person. What qualities do you bring to the table?

Every day I sympathize more and more with Jerry Seinfeld when he said that 95% of the population is undatable. UNDATABLE!

_aesahaettr_ · 2023-01-24T12:37:22+00:00

I don’t think that women alone are to blame, at all. I think it’s hook up culture as a whole (that goes back and fourth on both sides of the coin). How relationships are portrayed in society, how commitment is made fun of these days (oh, you’re a bitch now! You’re stuck with ‘them’). And the ease of being able to walk out of a relationship to “go have fun” on both sides. I do agree to your paradox of choice, but for both sides. Yes, online dating is a bit easier on the women’s side because of choices, but just because you have a ton of choices doesn’t mean they are quality. I understand the divide there, but if you’re just using OLD as an example, you’re missing out in other areas in the dating realm too.

Your post sounds pretty on the red pill side of things, and if you wanna sit here and blame women for all your dating issues, maybe some self reflection is needed.

wrathofkalima · 2023-01-24T12:56:54+00:00

Who cares? You’re going to do it anyway, right? We all want Chad and ignore the wonderful, loving autistic nerds, blah blah blah

TermAggravating8043 · 2023-01-24T12:55:26+00:00

I think it’s become of matter of men simply not being good enough to stay in a relationship with.

I’m hearing it daily from women getting with guys dating for a few months only to realise these men don’t know how to look after themselves. They’ll do bare minimum to get the relationship and get it to a serious stage and then give up looking after themselves and the women ends up mummyiny him. Women have got to that point where they realise there’s less work and less mess for her when he’s not there. Problem solved

Then there’s the other problem, the men that are adult enough to look after themselves and do get in relationships but never offer marriage, just dangle the idea of it for a few years n hopes she gives up. Women used to put up with this for years, even having children with them because they wanted the relationship to work. Now it’s a matter of an agreed timeline, and if he doesn’t stick to it then stop wasting time and move on

hodlbtcxrp · 2023-01-24T13:12:28+00:00

Lack of commitment is not necessarily a problem. We have more choice now so maybe things are better.

sharksville · 2023-01-24T13:32:57+00:00

Yes. They think that it’s a one sided deal and has a lot of expectations from the guy but doesn’t put in any effort herself and talks about how she’s always trying to look pretty for him by slapping on a lot of unnecessary makeup.

Lysa_Bell · 2023-01-24T12:37:07+00:00

So you blame women for the creation of dating apps despite the user base of these apps are like 80% males and the rest is bots and grifters?

DrBoby · 2023-01-24T13:16:33+00:00

No, women are not responsible.

Feminism comes from men more than it come from women, and from the beginning it is funded exclusively by rich boomer men trying to profit off that ideology.

Women basically just behave how they are told by the moral authority, before it was the church, now it's the medias.

shonenhikada · 2023-01-24T13:22:06+00:00

Yes I think for the most part we can blame women. You see, women decide who gets sex, dates and pass on their genes. Women also seem to be very rigid in their standards when they are at their peak beauty/dating power and only ever change them when life humbles them in some way. Also one thing that hampers women in dating is the ability to hold one accountable, not play victim and have some introspection of ones decisions. A lot of women today love playing victim, blaming all men for the actions of men they dated in the past and keep on doing the same mistake other women have done until they get kicked out of the cock carousal.

TrueEnoughNewsViews · 2023-01-24T12:46:37+00:00

You shouldn't blame women for modern dating, you should blame the moronic boomer men who stood idly by while big business used feminism to destroy our culture. The end result is modern dating.

One quick scan of women's profiles on Tinder and you'd be forgiven for thinking the women must be bringing something amazing to a relationship, so ridiculous, so selfish and delusional are their demands.

The real issue is the men who believed feminists when they said women just wanted to be equal. Women have always been prioritised in Western culture, but even that wasn't enough for them. You want someone to blame, start there.

UpbeatInsurance5358 · 2023-01-24T13:24:12+00:00

I think it's pretty safe to blame human beings in general for always wanting what they can't have. If you're upset about choice, stop being a choice. Or get yourself together and be a man who brings something to the relationship, a proper partner.

turbosaab3 · 2023-01-24T12:32:29+00:00

Yes but in the current woman coddling climate there's nothing really you can do about it.

obviousredflag · 2023-01-24T12:54:45+00:00

How are women the gatekeepers of relationships? Last time i checked, men and women are equally interested in long term relationships. Men don't just take any woman for a committed relationships.

wtknight · 2023-01-24T13:09:06+00:00

No. Western women have high standards, but many men aren’t doing the necessary work to try to fulfill those standards. This may be out of laziness, or it may be out of a sense that today’s women just aren’t worth it. But men in the past did put this work in because we did not have the alternatives of immersive online video games and free online porn.

MyLastBestChance · 2023-01-24T13:27:08+00:00

Ask yourself why a woman would want to date you or be in a relationship with you. I’m not being snarky, it’s a serious question.

How would being with you be better for a woman than being with a different man or being single?

If you can’t answer that question in a compelling and specific way without bringing up the collapse of society or birth rates, you may want to consider working on yourself…

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2023-01-24T13:04:24+00:00

It's too simplistic to place the blame on one gender.

My personal experience when dating was yes - it's difficult to find a woman who wants anything more than casual FWB style relationships these days. Obviously that's because they're living in hope that their next swipe will be the perfect 10 they've been searching for.

However, I have to take responsibility for playing my role - I was happy enough to be a 2am "u up?" text placeholder because: anything was better than nothing. If we as men want things to change, then we've got to have the willpower to say no to filling the holes of randoms who we know don't really like us. Yes, I'm a hypocrite because I was unable to summon that willpower. But does that change the fact that it's true?

It's also not just men who suffer from this behaviour. The women who won't commit aren't having a great time either. They're unhappy and ground down due to the constant dopamine hit/anxiety low rollercoaster of cycling through new partners in their search for perfection.

None of us are benefitting from this.

logan_doll · 2023-01-24T13:17:55+00:00

No one is to blame. It's just that women are only attracted to and easy for the top 20-30% of men and the remaining men are left out and only have a small chance after doing the courtship and provider acts, and no matter how good of a provider a man is It's useless untill he has attractive genes.

Green-Quantity1032 · 2023-01-24T13:19:54+00:00

Attractive young women were always unwilling to commit.

There's always a better guy around the corner.

Average/below-average people usually marry before attractive ones, that's my experience.

If below-average people overplay their hand they're in a huge risk of staying alone.

gymbro718nyc2 · 2023-01-24T13:28:48+00:00

No, it's not safe or okay. The so called imbalance in dating is actually something completely within men's control to fix. What are the two big problems? I will give you a hint.

The Pussy Monster aka love addiction - the persistent belief that a man cannot live without access to vagina, that his life is miserable and black unless he is getting sex. For the more romantically inclined, this is the same as love addiction - the belief that you cannot be happy unless you love or are being loved by somebody. The Pussy Monster makes men behave desperately and therefore not able to gain a woman's respect. The only way out is to have a take it or leave it attitude and never let the Pussy Monster control you (jerk off and take cold showers).
Being too nice - niceness should only be respected for women who have earned it. In the beginning stages of dating a woman doesn't deserve niceness. So many take on a submissive role early in the dating stage. Tolerating women giving them the runaround, not being responsive, etc. When you are nice you invite people to take advantage of you and manipulate you. Don't do that.

That's it really.

Sandshrew922 · 2023-01-24T13:37:51+00:00

I'm not sure "blame" is the right choice of phrase. It's just an evolution of modern society. As time went on women didn't explicitly need men anymore (credit cards, bank accounts, etc.) so their standards rise. As somebody else said in here men should be asking themselves what a potential partner brings to the table like women do.

As for tech, that was bound to happen. It's not women's fault thirsty dudes hop in their dms trying to get some action.

MrLebouwski · 2023-01-25T15:48:47+00:00

Funny how many males blame women for specific reasons and women blame men for other reasons. Same with my circle of friends. The women kinda ‚hate‘ the majority of men but like to enjoy the benefits of guys constantly hitting on them and my male best friends are „players“ and talk not in a nice way about the girls they take home but still constantly chase them in different ways. Hilarious.

I feel like people are criticizing the current ‚game‘ a LOT but still can’t stop playing it. Why’s that? Can’t anyone of you take a year or so off? Is it that hard? 😂

My recommendation: work on yourself. Women/men will approach you, if you‘re in a good shape physically and mentally. And yes, also women will approach you if that’s the case.

Title	Is it safe to blame women for the horrible state of modern dating?
Author	Dramatic-Earth-3303
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Date	January 24, 2023 12:30 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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