For example, we have guys who analyze the behavior of women. Their hypergamy, their chase for high status men.

They have tons of research on women's behaviors, entire data sets of women being more likely to shame other women. The halo effect, the women are wonderful effect. All have been analyzed.

Women are more likely to judge an attractive man as morally good based on his appearance. I read that in a Robert Sapolksy book, so this isn't even pill stuff it's biology.

The pills seem almost entirely focused on women's behaviors. Blue pill seems to be women are good.

Red pill is "women do this and that, you gotta trick them to use them for sex!"

And then, the other pill. Lol.

But what really is the point? Nothing is going to change women's behaviors.

No amount of complaining or analyzing women's behaviors will make them go "oh man I need to quit being so shallow and settle!"

Or "man I should stop focusing on looks, money, and status!"

No woman is going to change cause you throw facts and statistics at her. I doubt men will either.

Not to even mention debates on this sub are highly controlled. There is certain mods who ban any male voices as being the "I" word when they say anything beyond basic red pill talking points. I got a temp ban and labeled as an "I" word for mentioning looks matter. There is no debate here.

Not much of a debate going on at all.