Sexual politics is damaging young men

hotpotato138 · 2023-03-18T12:33:29+00:00

This stuff was not as common when I was growing up. I don't know why they are demonizing male sexuality nowadays.

SamaelET · 2023-03-18T15:03:51+00:00

I tried many timesto talk about this but I never was able to word it well.

This is double standard game. Every aspects of male sexual freedom is demonized while women's sexuality, even when abusive, is called female empowerement.

How many times have we seen naked women in TV shows being called sexist ? But look at Marvel and DC movies. How many times have we seen talks about how female grid girls are seen as sexist ? Or how male going to female sex workers is sexist ? But see how feminists will praise women going to male strip clubs (where male strippers are not protected against touching and harassement).

Sometimes to manage the double standard, another hyprocritical argument is made : no matter what, women's actions are for fun, not sexual therefore women can look at naked men, pay male sex workers and touch them, it is all for fun. Female teachers are not predators preying on young boys but women who fell in love passionately.

There was a city which banned female strip shows because women protested it but allowed male strip shows.

Recently, Scotland wants to make men, and only men who talk publicly of their sexual conquests illegal. They explicitely allows women to do it without any issue : https://archive.is/2023.03.08-185355/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/03/08/men-scotland-who-loudly-boast-sexual-conquests-public-could/

Maybe there is only one way out of it : protest to hold women to the same standards as men even for totally ridiculous and totalitarian things.

ProgressiveDudebro · 2023-03-18T16:58:54+00:00

I'm a bi dude. When I was with a guy, I was often mistaken for gay and didn't usually correct people because it didn't matter in 95% of situations. As a result I sometimes had women have conversations around me they don't have now I'm with a woman.

Women objectify men and share sexual exploits just like men do. Women can get just as explicit as men. The main difference I noticed are that men are usually just more boisterous about it and women are more playfully evasive - although after a certain point I find women tend to go into more detail than men usually do.

I love being a guy. I love my sexuality. Normative male sexuality is fantastic and just as great and rich as normative female sexuality. But society increasingly seems to celebrate women's sexuality and sexual liberation whilst doubling down on the limitations imposed on men. It sometimes feels like male sexuality is being downright pathologised.

Yet men are told we should show certain other traits that come from the same place all the apparently bad traits too - and in fact, the bad traits are often good traits in a different context. If young guys are going to be made to feel like their sexuality and masculinity are bad, nasty things, they're going to act out. Not because they're men - because they're human.

shit-zen-giggles · 2023-03-18T11:24:16+00:00

The article discusses the various trends negatively affecting men & boys that we are all familiar with. It (in my view correctly) diagnoses the rise of Andrew Tate as a sympthom of these trends and draws a parallel between young men in Britian and Japan's Hikikomori phenomenon.

Most importantly it identifies systemic cultural issues as a main culprit in this malaise.

What are your thoughts?

What parts do you find most noteworthy?

What parts do you (dis)agree with?

AskingToFeminists · 2023-03-18T19:35:42+00:00

People have been pointing out what this article says for at least a decade. Nothing new under the sun.

katzenkratzen69420 · 2023-03-18T13:22:01+00:00

Has Japan tackled their hikkimori problem? I don't think so? I believe once this Pandora's box has been opened, we have no turning back until next generation. Maybe. If that generation will even be a meaningful thing with pisslow fertility rate. Guess our society will need to figure out a way to support not only growing useless old people population but also growing useless young men population

Alternative_Jazz · 2023-03-19T01:11:04+00:00

"A reasonable worry about assault appears to have morphed into an institutional misandry."

Nachtlicht_ · 2023-03-26T20:51:54+00:00

"The polling company YouGov found that just 8 per cent of people have positive views of white men in their twenties"

This can't be right tho. It's impossible.

Ok-Dragonfruit-697 · 2023-03-18T23:51:58+00:00

The Spectator is a radfem, man-hating, far-right rag.

blaizken_420 · 2023-03-18T15:45:05+00:00

The sexual revolution is the overarching cause of all this. Putting sex on an impossible pedestal of high value has reduced it to a hedonistic social drug. It should always stay the bed room.

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