How much of the sexual deviance that you read about online have you actually seen reflected in real life?

2021-02-28T10:58:07+00:00

Maybe it’s because I run with a boring crowd but not much. Most folks are married with children (not me obviously) and just have the occasional date night. They love their spouse and their lives revolve around the kids. We had our 20s to do this stuff and some people did actually run wild but not most.

yeet20feet · 2021-02-28T15:49:48+00:00

college athlete here

friend of mine’s girlfriend left him because she gained a huge following cosplaying on instagram, made an onlyfans and now lives in a studio apartment in chicago

on my team there’s 30 of us, 20 of us have a normal sex life (a couple partners, current girlfriends) 9 are arguably incels (not even ugly or short) and 1 dude is a giga Chad. is with a new chick every weekend and any new girl that comes to our team parties always gravitates towards him

sadhukar · 2021-02-28T10:20:25+00:00

Burning man culture is mainstream, I’ll leave it at that.

gopher_glitz · 2021-02-28T13:48:05+00:00

Many women who've racked up triple digits etc are actually miserable and deeply damaged. Nothing really hedonistic about self destruction in the form of reckless drunken promiscuity with people who could care less about you.

peachycreaam · 2021-02-28T14:23:36+00:00

Hmm I did know a boss who left his wife for his secretary but it was his own business.

I was married for a long time and most of the other couples we knew were cheating. One lady had an affair partner of 20 years lol. She has a new man now and apparently they like to sleep around.

Also, where I live it’s pretty common for women my age (20’s) to have sex with a guy they just met. When I was in high school girls were going to 19+ nightclubs with fake IDs and sometimes having sex with men they met there.

Subtlevibes · 2021-02-28T07:49:39+00:00

I know plenty of girls who've been in threesomes and a handful who've banged celebrities/famous people.

Source: frat guy at a state school.

rivertorain- · 2021-02-28T13:54:09+00:00

Yeah, in my professional circle (in a profession known for nerdiness) I know at least 4 people who have been to orgies recently. If that’s how the nerds are getting down I don’t even want to know what the normies are doing...

Hoopy223 · 2021-02-28T16:10:07+00:00

I’ve seen a lot of it and it disgusts me tbh. But then I like fit women who wear makeup and most of them are crazy so I do bring it on myself.

My ex had a skanky online presence. I ignored it. Then I found a thread on Bodybuilding where guys were bragging about fucking her. She has a skanky Reddit with a bunch of guys worshiping her too.

I’m a dumbass when it comes to females lol.

Anthony-waltzs · 2021-02-28T08:11:38+00:00

Most people I know or hear about have average relationships. There are a few kind of out there though. I see way more degeneracy broadcasted online.

Ask_For_Cock_Pics · 2021-02-28T13:15:51+00:00

Definitely, I live in LA and I'm nose deep in this. OLD? I scored with 4 girls so far this year from tinder by inviting them to my house "cause of lockdown", I'm pretty sure all of them had n-counts over 40. One of them could only cum if it was rough enough for her feel like she was being raped. Her words. My "unicorn" of two years broke up with me to become a prostitute and have multiple sugar daddies; before that we made a bunch of porn and had a threesome last year. In the beginning her biggest frustration was feeling like she had to conform to traditional gender roles. I have more than a dozen friends with onlyfans links on their instagram pages. A crush I've had since my blue-pilled days revealed to me that her marriage has been open this whole time. The ex I had before my last prostitute girlfriend, ended up spending her life after me going to concerts, fucking the musicians, and doing so many drugs that she eventually flew home across the US back to her parents as a form of rehab. This info probably says something about me as well lol, but even every one of my more innocent female friends lives in the feminist/sex positive zone where there isn't anything I've just said is the slightest bit shocking.

majani · 2021-02-28T11:14:18+00:00

In my line of work, I've seen the sugar lifestyle up close. Seeing how many "normal" girls and celebrities were into it, I now have the belief that every woman has her price. And it's not THAT high. Many women will get tempted to prostitute themselves for a few hundred dollars, and most of the hard nuts to crack will probably find 1-10 thousand dollars to be an offer they can't refuse.

Snacksbreak · 2021-02-28T11:50:00+00:00

The boss isn't nailing his secretaries. In fact, the boss, and I am one, has mandated a rule that he is never alone in a building or a room with any female employee under any circumstances simply because his career isn't worth even the remotest chance that she could claim he sexually harassed her.

Anecdotally,

OLD has created the realest of real crapfests. When I was doing it, I had two married women, that I know were married and their husbands certainly did not know, find their way in to my bed. I had to piece together information to figure out they were married to send them on their way. I'm not okay with that. I had another married woman whose husband knew that she occasionally took a physical lover to make up for what he was unable to do any more, she loved her husband. I was okay with that.

OLD has turned dating and sex into more a less a super market for women, where if a guy has a good body and can sell himself a bit, he will rapidly find himself surrounded by women. I don't really know if it's the 80/20 rule or what. I do know that I could sell myself, had a decent body, and really, very truly, didn't really care about them, and for some reason, these women, these so-called sophisticated, educated, emotionally mature and stable women, turned themselves into pretzels trying to impress me and get any more than some attention. This was despite the fact that I knew guys were literally sending them messages daily. They were often more into the porn stuff than I was, and from what I could discern, they were really into it.

I can't answer for every university in the nation, but as fate would have it, I live near one. Now, I don't mess with the college age girls, I get a headache if I spend too much time listening to them, but I talked with them and with young men in the university. This university has a severe deficit of guys, so if you have any self-confidence... The guys told me it was sort of like an all you can eat buffet. He would go out looking for the blonde one day, the brunette the next, the redhead, then maybe a black girl or a latina. The young women said that they had no trouble finding guys that would sleep with them, but nothing in the way of commitment. I haven't ever heard of girls having a "train ran on them", but why would I want to be a filthy fifth, like ever? Especially when I just really don't have to be.

I don't know about OF, it honestly sounds like any of a handful of other sites I refuse to pay for.

Anthony-waltzs · 2021-02-28T11:42:46+00:00

Every single year at my high school there would be a couple of girls who would get their nudes leaked and posted in the group chats that I was in. Also sometimes there would be sex tapes of girls going around as well. What you need to understand is that most of the things you listed happen very undercover and in secret which is why you probably do not see it happen openly but more of it is talked about online because people have anonymity available to them.

The chads and girls racking up high n-counts is VERY true. So basically the way dorms are set up at my college is that you need a key to get into a specific dorm, so the girls will wait outside and the guy will go downstairs and key them all in so they all go in at once to "study"(plausible deniability)

love_superspreader · 2021-02-28T13:57:31+00:00

Yes. Girls I knew burnt themselves with chad chasing or are sugar babies.

I know more 20yo women who are single than paired up with a regular man.

I say for women it's 1/3 chad or sugar daddy, 1/3 traditional woman, 1/3 single.

for men it's 1/3 neet, 1/3 mgtow, 1/3 traditional man... and SDs and chads are so few that i know none. Actually I know 2 chads.

singdontcry · 2021-02-28T07:59:33+00:00

Honestly not a lot. Serial monogamist here, with friends who are also. Some infidelity here and there and some hookups but nothing like what some folks think it's like.

SeemedGood · 2021-02-28T17:58:22+00:00

Most of this is not new.

Teachers were banging students when I was in high school over 30 years ago, we have genetic evidence that Chads have been racking up huge numbers for 175,000 years, married couples have been cheating on each other since whenever marriage was invented, I remember a kid named Darren who we used to tease when I was about 12 because his (single) mom was seen letting strange men take pictures of her nude for money on separate occasions, people have been nailing each other in the workplace (literally while in it) for my entire 30 year working career, sugar daddies have been around since humans were primarily hunting and gathering, I remember seeing ancient porn mosaics on a junior high school field trip to ruins outside of Rome, and our penises and sex style evolved to pump other men’s sperm out of a woman’s vagina before depositing our own.

What is new is the internet and the extent to which all this is more broadly publicized, the level in which sexual activity has filtered down into really young children, and the extent to which girls/women are openly embracing/displaying their inner sexual choice nature. It stunned me when my son reveled at 15 that a ring of the 13 to 15 year old girls at the local junior high were holding a contest to see who could “hookup” with the largest number of the popular guys and publishing their comparative notes on social media.

Jakes1967 · 2021-02-28T09:38:32+00:00

There's a vague sense that your neighbour's daughter is a cam girl, your local......

From personal experience, this sounds like a week in the Army, but that's different.

My primary civilian western experience, is in the UK...

Just in the streets/roads, where we lived:

Single Mothers

one neighbour, had dozens of liaisons over the years, still no marriage.
a few women, have increased their child count and baby daddy count too.
plenty of my daughters' friends, are now single mothers, some with multiple baby dads...
just like Ulrika Jonsson, we know plenty of "4x4 mums".

Married women

over the years, 3 woman "forced" open marriages, none of them are still married - the husbands are remarried and happier - tons of fun for us though.
a few friends' wives; decided to "test the waters", unfortunately for them, they heavily miscalculated and were divorced - causing plenty of fun over the years.
a neighbour down the street, had multiple affairs and 2 children are from the affairs, her husband found out and just left - guess who she blames?

Carousel riders

Over the years, we've seen plenty of evidence of the various CC riders and the aftermath.

work colleague 1 and 2 got engaged to CC rider. CC rider acted very demure and sexually reserved, unfortunately previous college/FWB, started working with us and spilled the beans...
work colleague 3 was married and got an anonymous package. A DVD, showing his wife's "performance at college"...
friend 1,2, 3, 4 and 5 during the engagement/wedding/rehearsal etc., got rude intros into their future wives' sexual pasts. From gangbang/FWB/orgy partners in the audience, to former clients in the family...
various friends and work colleagues, thanks to the various genealogy DNA programs, discovered that their child/children weren't theirs...

EDIT: Forgot about the nurses and their fun parties...

Also forgot about the local school girls' orgy party that the cops responded to. Unfortunately a dad was one of the cops responding...

LeatherDifference583 · 2021-02-28T10:24:51+00:00

I'm into BDSM and maybe 1/8 of men I meet are also into that. Nothing crazy, just a bit of bondage /spanking ect (no rape play/daddy shit).

I've only copped off with one dude that was into something I considered wierd. That was spitting and he claims the fetish started shortly after working with the government lol.

Most people I know are serial monogamous and have bouts of slutty stages in-between relationships.

I know one couple who have threesomes and do puppy play but I don't really ask them much about it. I don't really want to entertain their bragging (which they always do).

Maybe 1/20 friends of mine have experienced a threeseome (myself included). I don't know anyone who does orgies (partly because the people who do that are in their 40s + and kinda unattractive.

Im very liberal and open when it comes to talking about sex - so I don't think many friends are hiding anything from me.

kayimbo · 2021-02-28T10:20:09+00:00

i have known many debauched people in my life.

Anthony-waltzs · 2021-02-28T12:15:40+00:00

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2021-02-28T21:06:06+00:00

My 3 freshman college roommates had an orgy with 5 other women while I was playing NASCAR on my Xbox.

I was wearing a headset.

No, I did not join in. I screamed and ran out the dorm, down the hall, all the way to the pizza place in the middle of the campus.

NapoliPizzaPie · 2021-03-01T01:00:01+00:00

In Grad School.

I would say that the online redpill / blackpill is a slightly, slightly distorted mirror of what I experience in real life. I mean slightly.

I don't think you can 100% rigidly classify everyone as "chad" "normie" "soy" and "incel", but it works as a general sociological model believe it or not, recognizing there are anomalies / exceptions, and it's more of a blended rainbow than a rigid "red, orange, yellow," etc.

I can count some several examples:

I have a slightly soy but most incredible normie friend who is married, me and another dude are playing video games, and he brings up an article he read about what songs not to play while having sex, and goes into detail about how long he can last, how it's all about the "thrust game", and it's just like - why. I can also tell that she settled for him and he's the beta in the relationship; he obeys everything she tells him to do, almost like a mother.

Was discussing chicks IRL with these guys (they are in committed relationships both since college), and they brought up the fact that some unattractive, gross looking girls (one is a five but is fat; one is a three) were swiping left on almost everyone on Tinder, saying they want guys that look like Chris Evans. My friend was shocked they could have such high standards considering what they looked like. Externally, I was like "IKR!!!??" but inside I was smiling in pain like (wow you guys haven't figured it out )

Next door neighbors are alpha-party bros despite being normal looking, I overheard them unsuccessfully trying to seduce some girls and the girls got really offended, they called them "fucking losers", said "you think you are hot guys, but you aren't", etc.

I could go on.

rivertorain- · 2021-02-28T08:35:23+00:00

Cognitive dissonance: people need to conjure up fantasies to soothe themselves from the reality that most sex and relationships are terribly boring, bland, monotonous.

PlayfulLawyer · 2021-02-28T07:50:27+00:00

Well I had a mini fling with my teacher when I was 15, I was a good not great athlete in a division 2 college and I had no problem getting laid, the "Chads and Tyrones" on campus lapped me with some of their body counts from what I heard and some of what I saw lol, A lot of younger women are monetizing their beauty on sites like SA and Only fans, I've engaged with a few of them, kept 2 on retainer for lack of a better term, and yeah , I never caught anyone I know cheating , I have my suspicions but I ask 0 questions haha

GrandRub · 2021-02-28T12:25:38+00:00

good buddy of mine is 38, unemployed, and has a ton of crazy sex with women (20-50) from tinder... and yeah he is speaking the truth.

2021-02-28T14:53:12+00:00

I recently left high school so I’ve gotten to see firsthand how the current state of dating has affected a generation that fully grew up in it. The first thing I’ll say is most guys lost their virginities at the normal age(16-17). However there was a portion that lost it around 14 or 15. I’d say that makes up about 10% of them. The majority of girls aren’t sluts and lose their virginities at about 15, they go to high school and it’s like fresh steak in a lion’s den. Them not being sluts is less a morals thing and more that that many of them are screwing the same couple of guys(the same ones that first got laid at 14). People don’t really date anymore. They talk for a few weeks, do it a couple times, and go their separate ways.

Pretty much everything you’ve described I’ve seen at least once, except for the teachers banging their students. I’ve participated in orgys and even ran a train. Chads aren’t getting 1000s of lays, I’d say closer to 50 by graduation. A girl got caught giving head on the bus in middle school. I have a friend that had an N count above 25 by the start of junior year. I thought he was lying but he wasn’t, there was verifiable video proof for at least 20 of them. While the pure statistics on virginity are staying the same, things have definitely changed. One positive though, many of the tyrones, chads, and stacys were in honor level classes so they aren’t total airheads.

opistrue · 2021-02-28T09:17:32+00:00

girls having multiple fuckbuddies (usually 3-4 at most on average) is completely common

girls fucking new guys each day is common as well

girls fucking multiple guys during one day is not uncommon either

girls participating in gangbang/group sex is also not uncommon

LabNo3096 · 2021-02-28T14:03:37+00:00

I have been on the receiving side of those more 'un-standard' things a few times:

an ex was a stripper and then had some amateur porn videos presence. once I found out from her 'ex' we broke (he was in previous videos with her, he thought i am the next performer so he gave me tips);
an ex had a sugar daddy. once I caught her, she had another one. we had two-years open relationship where i fucked round. that was very toxic one and mentally fucked me. she was also into light BSDM and i tried to push her for group sex, but she didn't want to. a serious nutcase and now is married to a low-key musician;
an ex of mine was talking to her ex-boyfriend every second day we were together. once i found out we had a talk and i explained it makes me insecure. i caught her a few more times and dumped her. later she messeged me a few times why we guys are like that (i guess her next bf caught her too);
an ex of mine became escort a few years after we broke and she participated in (paid) gangbangs. she is single mum and reached to me (but i am married now);
an ex of mine banged some guitar guy (behind my back), but I didn't know about till a decade afterwards (where she wanted to date again, i had my revenge that night :P). she is dating some orchestra musician as well, lol;
an ex of mine married some dude who inherited a few houses, then he lost them in gambling. she tried to get together with me again, but them i was active PUA and told her to shove it;
another girl I met said she worked as a dominatrix previously. she was ugly so i didn't follow;
about third of girls I banged had boyfriend and, in two instances (at least), were married;
once i banged a virgin with a long-term boyfriend. i sent her home in the morning;
I met few girls who considered themself to be poly and 'bi-sexual', but i never did anything with them. i kinda regret is, but i was in wife-hunting mode at this time;
I have >10GB of private sex vidoes :)

Note: I am former PUA, maybe those were girls that are attracted to game. I also live in London, UK. I am sure i could get more of that, but i met a wonderful girl and she was too good deal to pass, so we married (and my promising playboy carrer ended, lol).

Yeah, girls do that shit and then keep quiet to their future partners.

Edit: wifey knows some girls who were into entertainment guys and had lots of ONS with them.

deathbecomesme123456 · 2021-02-28T08:58:05+00:00

I knew a few girls in high school/college having sex with a bunch of older men due to past trauma. They got therapy though and they’re normal now.

I have heard of some quote unquote party girls but they weren’t having sex, they would just flirt and make out with guys a lot.

Seriously never met a “slut” the way it’s conceptualized here, IRL.

I knew one person who cheated on his HS gf but he isn’t like that now.

What I have met IRL is a lot of rape victims (2 male and >10 female). And before anyone says “wElL mAyBe ThEy WeRe LyInG,” I doubt they had eating disorders, drug problems, and failing grades for NO reason at all.

SaBahRub · 2021-02-28T16:21:31+00:00

Just porny sex

That’s why all this handwringing is nonsense. We all wish life was this eventful

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the-worst- · 2021-02-28T12:44:08+00:00

Back when I was still online dating, almost every guy wanted to skip the dating aspect and go straight to sex. One guy even acted like I owed him sex because he "had the body of a god" and I was fat. So many guys ask for nudes before you're even 5 messages in.

About 9 years ago so many guys tried to get me to be basically their personal cam girl. Things seem to have only gotten worse since then.

2021-02-28T17:44:52+00:00

Nothing a man could do to me or say to me would surprise me. Except for being a loving, wholesome person. 😂

PMmeareasontolive · 2021-02-28T18:55:37+00:00

It's aspirational

2021-02-28T19:33:33+00:00

I’d say I’ve seen some of it, but not all of what you’re saying.

I went to a private catholic school, and there were mostly just bored affluent kids who were repressed. So ya know people doing tons of drugs and having sex at school. There was a stairwell that was well known to be a place where girls would blow dudes, but it came to a head when some couple got caught fucking in it and they literally locked it down. Funniest thing was the girl got an abortion and still went to the school, though I think it’s because her parents donated a bunch of money to the school. We also had a couple of teachers/faculty members who ended up fucking students, where one was actually a lesbian relationship.

Later in college and my 20s I would say I found myself in a partying crowd via dumb luck and I guess my social abilities. Lots of drugs, lots of parties and staying out until 3am and shit. Anyway some of the stuff is true, girls getting trains ran on them occasionally but they were the far end of the spectrum and I found this to maybe be more popular in the ghetto parties. Chads maybe not racking up 1000s of lays, but somewhere in the 100s as they would be getting laid every weekend, sometimes twice in one party. There was a guy who fucked some chick at like 10pm and then at 12am was fucking another one. I would say I’ve been witness or at least knew people who had stories of the shit in the party scene. But shit like orgies in a college dorm or at a frat house aren’t a thing I’ve seen.

Obviously I know people who have had casual sex. Almost every woman I’ve met has engaged in it at some point, and it is always with the same kind of guys (tall and/or attractive). Many women are on tinder and most of them don’t want relationships, almost all are looking for dick. And yeah there are more men on there, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t a lot of women. Btw I got no problem with this either, I only wish I could be a part of that.

At my dad’s company, one of the executives did sleep with his secretary and eventually left his wife for her. Fucked up thing though was that the wife had cancer during all of this. Wife ended up divorce raping him too, apparently she’s just traveling the world now on his dime.

A couple of acquaintances have Onlyfans as well. Ex gf of mine had a sugar daddy for a bit before meeting me. Also knew a couple of women who were groupies.

So I guess I have seen some of it, or a lot of it. Your post had a negative inflection to it though, and honest to god I had no problem with any I described above, especially all the partying I did.

2021-02-28T20:07:56+00:00

It's crazy out there. To give a taste of only one month gaming. I'm not a top20% and at the time I was 38. three of my 12 lays. I had Three almost threesome in three weeks. I've had sex with an ONS while her sister laid in the bed next to us. Then the following week another ONS. My wingman did his in the hotel room. I did mine in the bathroom after he left I did his. Then the week after another ONs in the front seat of my truck. While I had my hand around my mate's woman's neck, who was in the he back seat. And then another girl I new broke up with her boyfriend and bent over a stool at a party and let whoever fuck her. 4 men fucked her while everyone else casually watched. I have more.storys.from that one month..it.really is sex-positive. Sluts are awesome.

mydikishomofobik · 2021-02-28T20:16:32+00:00

I have no idea what people do in their own bedrooms, homes, or over secluded areas. And I've never seen anyone having sex in the middle of the street in the day time. So how would I know what they're doing?

2021-02-28T21:54:56+00:00

I’ve seen it all, too many stories to tell. But it’s more related to consenting adults having fun; swingers, burners, etc. What I’m not seeing is college dorm gang bangs. College dorms are too small and there is a student resident on each floor who acts as a “guard” of sorts. It would never work unless Uni dorms are that different outside the US and Western Europe.

And girls getting trains run on them is rare and usually the result of a really mentally disturbed and drunk young girl getting in over her head. I did go to a “gang bang” once but it was hosted by a married couple in their 40s who were into the wife getting w other men and being watched.

Never had a teacher get caught for banging students during my school years nor know of it happening, it’s just one of those things that makes the tabloid News when a male teacher has been egregious or a female teacher is really attractive.

Re: bosses and secretaries - only very small independent businesses can get away w that these days. It’s not uncommon for coworkers to date but I can only think of one manager who is now married to one of the sales girls on his team, and they moved her to another managers team when they announced they were dating. So while it’s not necessarily grounds for being fired it’s usually not well taken in the corporate world. Not to say that the couple was punished, they volunteered that info and offered for her to go to the other team to prevent potential issues or accusations.

One guy I worked w went to prison for raping this other girl we all worked with but I never got the full story on what happened. Not sure if that qualifies.

Physiologist21 · 2021-03-01T05:02:13+00:00

I have a few chad friends, many successful friends. One particularly degenerate friend. Whatever shit you think is "made up" or just "internet stories"....it's so much worse lol.

Hell myself I've experienced too much and I'm not even on the level of these guys I got to the point where its like "yeah I dont wanna know"

I'm a red pill type and I live in ignorance, nevermind blue pill guys.

towerofcheeeeza · 2021-03-01T21:02:07+00:00

In college I knew 1 female friend with a sugar daddy, and one gay male friend with a sugar daddy. I had a lot of female friends, but she was the only one I was aware of. Contrary to expectation, that was a big shock / topic of gossip to most - despite most of our friends being sorority types. It was a bit like an orca - one of those things everyone knew existed but had never once encountered.

Hookup culture was a lot more common. It definitely varied depending on what kinds of friends you had though. I was friends with both very sheltered nerds, who either stayed single or were always in LTRs, as well as more typical party types who did hookup pretty frequently. I knew a lot of guys and girls who preferred to have friends with benefits or regular hookup partners tho bc they didn't wanna deal with constant fear of STDs. I will say the big exception was a lot of gay male friends I knew hooked up A LOT. Way more an any straight girl or guy. I had one friend (the one with the sugar daddy) who was banging at least one, if not TWO, guys EACH DAY. That was wild.

I've known a few girls with OF, but none from college. While plenty of female friends joked about making one bc money, no one would actually do it, because of fear of repercussions towards their careers, etc. It's expensive to pay for college in the US. And while some women choose OF or sugar daddies as a way to offset the cost, most are aware that money is not worth losing the career you spent hundreds of thousands of dollars building. Stories of med students on OF are not as common as the media might make you think.

I did know a few polyamorous people. For some reason they were always into DnD. I feel like this is a weird trend.

Cheating happened, but was often very messy. Most common was high school relationships turned long distance where things were fizzling out but "the talk" hadn't happened yet.

Post-college, my close friends have all been LTR couples living with their significant others or single people. Both are honestly too busy with work to deal with much else.

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