Rights that men don't have (but women have)

alman3007 · 2020-09-26T17:16:29+00:00

Love the post. I think you may benefit from putting other examples. For instance, men have the right to be drafted! Men also have the right to be excluded by most assistance programs despite paying for them with their taxes!

BahamianPapi · 2020-09-26T18:32:52+00:00

No authority to make these decisions. But all the responsibility of it.

El_Jr · 2020-09-26T17:53:09+00:00

This hurts

IamLoaderBot · 2020-09-26T18:39:15+00:00

Also heavier sentences for the same crimes, and no guaranteed freedom from drafts if a war, that demands higher conscription rates, should occur again.

ReddiReaders · 2020-09-26T18:29:54+00:00

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IPlayMyMusicInTheSun · 2020-09-26T21:04:48+00:00

I read this to my girlfriend and she just rolled her eyes and said "it takes two to make a baby"...she doesn't fucking listen.

tatsumaki1415 · 2020-09-26T18:45:40+00:00

prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, on the basis of sex. That's the definition of sexism

Millstone50 · 2020-09-26T18:12:58+00:00

The right to bodily integrity (protection from genital mutilation). You forgot that huge one.

latenightfap7 · 2020-09-26T18:15:10+00:00

Great post and a great page recommendation (IG: @thetinmen). I'm glad I looked that page up, I needed some positivity on my social media.

Roctopus420 · 2020-09-26T23:40:33+00:00

My favorite is the right to sue for child support after a woman raped a man.

RealSkylitPanda · 2020-09-26T19:51:25+00:00

Imagine going to jail for not making enough to pay child support, having to watch your own kid grow up while behind bars, then your childs mom is gonna use that against you saying, “oh he never cared for you he couldnt even pay child support” Now youre broke, in jail, and your children have no clue what the truth is. All because this bitch wanted 2000 A MONTH so she can fucking buy clothes and make up for herself

martellthacool · 2020-09-26T17:52:09+00:00

I got no respect nor love for feminazis

Mens_rights_matter2 · 2020-09-26T23:12:52+00:00

Baby girls have the right to genital integrity. Baby boys do not have that right. Women have the right to choose to keep a child or not. Not only do Men not have that right but must pay for it if she decides to keep it. Women have the right to accuse a man falsely for rape just to destroy him and remain anonymous and face zero repercussions when it turns out she was lying. Men do not have that right. Women have the right to far less jail time for the same crime. Women have the right to be the victims of rape. Men do not have that right. Women have the right to fair judicial process of being innocent until proven guilty. Men do not have that right. Women have the right to victim points because “patriarchy”. Men do not have that right. Women have the right to be allies with all other victims in this world due to intersectionality. Men do not have that right. Women have the right to be seen as universal caregivers of children. Men do not have that right. Women have the right to hate men in the name of equality. Men do not have that right.

klikwize · 2020-09-26T21:26:27+00:00

The whole "My body my choice" Thing kinda goes out the window when sperm was part of my body.

TwoDollars_PM · 2020-09-26T23:47:25+00:00

Another reason male birth control should be a priority In the states but unfortunately it’s such an uphill battle

ModsAreHellaCucks · 2020-09-26T20:47:00+00:00

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Aspirisis · 2020-09-27T03:41:22+00:00

I tried to adopt my two step daughters in 2015/2016 after my wife and their mother passed away suddenly. I had changed their diapers, supported them from toddler-hood, etc. Their sperm donor (biological father) moved to Kansas (we live in Colorado and, as part of my wife's divorce decree, we were unable to move out of state) and had very little to do with the children, including refusing to pay child support. Even when garnished, he would just switch jobs or get paid under the table.

Cut to when they find out that there is a multi-million dollar trust that was in my wife's name. *They is the paternal side of the family* I am in for the court battle of my life. I spent over $100K, never lied, had to take a hair drug test (I'm bald so guess where the 19 year old got to cut the hair from {I passed}). I was accused of making teens uncomfortable because apparently I'm some kind of pedophile (I'm fucking not...I'm a bald widower who was kind of in a bad place so sorry if I was distracted/staring off into space), that I forced drugs on my children (not fucking ONCE), and I was just all in all a bad guy. But hey...I lost. I got "parenting time", every other weekend, which I never missed. They ended up staying with their grandparents who could barely afford to live themselves. Fast forward a couple years, my middle daughter is now a meth addict. My youngest is indoctrinated into some weird ass church thing and doing hallucinogens and driving WAY too fast in the mountains of Colorado during a snow storm.

FYI, the trust went to someone else in my wife's family. They did, however, receive the Social Security Survivors Benefit which was a few thousand dollars a month, which they proceeded to spend on themselves while the children lived in a bedroom next to a years old furnace with no ventilation.

So yeah...fuck the courts, fuck all this shit. I did my best and I know I was and AM a good father (my 26 year old step son hit a bump in the road and he is currently living with me), but because I have a penis and because I wasn't the one that made MY daughters, I lose. FML...sorry for the rant and sorry if I went a little off topic. Moderator, if you want me to delete this comment, I will. I'm just really tired of how fathers who actually care about their children are treated by the justice system. I'm not a bad person, I'm not a bad father, and I'm not a bad man...but they sure made it look like I was (they being the paternal family, again). Their word was gospel and mine was dogshit because maybe I was a little stressed given my wife had just died and I was going through a prolonged court battle to retain at least some sliver of the family I had given up my youth to raise and protect.

sydneymgtow · 2020-09-27T01:54:39+00:00

The rights to student loans and government jobs in the USA, and the right to not be fined $250,000USD or be jailed if they don't join the military draft.

Hugo28Boss · 2020-09-26T19:04:47+00:00

The tin men is a great instagram page everyone should follow

baby_tree · 2020-09-26T21:33:07+00:00

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2020-09-27T08:25:53+00:00

I have a friend in this situation. And it is fucking horendous. Also, there are hardly any men in child wellfare work, all women, caring for women. The man is seen guilty of all the wrong while he is being sucked into bankruption and loses all say into the wellbeing of his daughter who's having to live with a mother that's not worked a day in her life, two other kids wuth her boyfriend, alchohol, drugs and neglect. She finally gives away her custody. Him being happy he can finally stop the tug of war. All paperwork done, his 15y daughter pregnant by a 14y kid. All the while the mom knew but kept it to herself. You can imagine the course of the following months is not a walk in the park. The grandchild is born, healthy. Few months old, the mom(ex) not visited or seen since she gave custody away, now files for custody to be regained accusing my friend of abusive behavior towards the daughter and his grandchild.

Some people are infuriating to the point bad things could happen.

Oh, this is Europe by the way.

Have a nice day

jadajada_ · 2020-09-27T02:59:10+00:00

Women have the codified right to body autonomy, men do not share this right. Women are born with the right to vote being guaranteed to them. Men do not have the right to vote, they must earn it.

tewls · 2020-09-26T18:45:16+00:00

You want a hard pill to swallow? This inequality for men isn't put into place by women. It's put into place by other men. We won't get anywhere if we keep blaming some imaginary feminist boogeyman. The real problem comes from simps in congress always protecting the "weak and vulnerable women and children". Most feminazi's aren't actively campaigning against this sort of thing but basically none of them are campaigning to keep it in place. Wonderful post though, educating the general population is the first step.

moly_b_denum · 2020-09-27T04:41:23+00:00

In Australia men don't have the right to know if a child is actually theirs. The mother can refuse to allow a DNA and force it to court where it is at the whim of the judge. If the DNA test goes ahead and they are the guys kids he pays all costs. If they are not his kids he still pays his own costs!

Tmomp · 2020-09-26T19:57:22+00:00

Slide 8: should "can" read "must by law"?

morfeuzz · 2020-09-27T02:40:13+00:00

Love the post.

thrownitallawayyyy · 2020-09-27T05:54:28+00:00

30% of men are genitally mutilated. End the violence and sexual suppression.

TophSauce · 2020-09-26T18:18:36+00:00

Just another reason to keep your dick in your pants.

Long-Chair-7825 · 2020-09-26T17:39:49+00:00

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hhudson0 · 2020-09-26T19:38:38+00:00

Nobody should be forced into parenthood, that’s why condoms and birth control exist. If you get a women pregnant you are both at fault. Neither wore protection.

desacralize · 2020-09-26T20:34:43+00:00

Slide 3 can be problematic. Maybe it's just worded poorly?

A man should never have any control over whether or not a woman has an abortion or keeps a child. It's her body and her choice. Period.

Everything about men not having custody rights, child support issues, and so on is spot on though. Men who choose to have sex with women should not have the repurcussions of unwanted pregnancy hanging over their heads.

Le_ed · 2020-09-26T19:08:06+00:00

I agree with most of that, except for the abortion part. The person who will be subjected to the abortion procedure will be a woman, so it makes sense that she has priority in the decision for an abortion.

If both parents are in agreement then great. If the man doesn't want an abortion but that woman wants one, an argument can be made that the woman doesn't have the right to remove the man's child without his consent (although I don't know if I agree with this argument). However if the woman doesn't want an abortion but the man does, I think it is absurd for his desire to be considered over hers, and she be forced to do an procedure on herself that she doesn't want.

Zacherius · 2020-09-27T07:21:49+00:00

Financial burden != Parenthood

gerardchiasson3 · 2020-09-26T20:52:42+00:00

I think it's ok that men can't choose if a woman will abort or not, since either is a big toll on her body. He should have the option of being liberated from his responsibilities, though. "If you can kill that motherfucker, I can at least abandon him".

Facemask12 · 2020-09-26T19:49:09+00:00

I'm not a typical viewer of this sub and went in skeptical, but I agree with everything in it.

AndrewKovac · 2020-09-27T01:37:32+00:00

Thank you for this. I’m tired of being left behind as a guy, feeling like women run the world. The problem is that you can’t say anything without looking like an asshole. Does anyone have any advice for a logical argument with a radicalized feminist TERRORIST (I stand by the terrorist comment, look at the legal definition of a terrorist)??

Ella_kona_ · 2020-09-26T18:55:25+00:00

Toxic women & feminazis: b-but oppression and patriarchy.

Ivebeengnomed · 2020-09-26T18:58:23+00:00

Really effective post. Good job!

theredditorlol · 2020-09-26T19:26:09+00:00

Never having sex the fuck

2020-09-26T20:25:12+00:00

Get a vasectomy. Relatively painless and about the safest/most effective option, along with the woman having tubal litigation.

If you do want children eventually, your only option is to abstain from sex until you meet The One, or put your trust into birth control(has burned many people) .

brain_flaps · 2020-09-26T20:26:31+00:00

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whateverworksforben · 2020-09-26T23:00:44+00:00

What are some ideas to balance this?

Got-Waffle · 2020-09-27T03:17:33+00:00

Considering how cheap it is to get done. Men shouldn't be placed on birth certificates unless a paternity test is done conforming they are actually the father. For reference it was $300 when I got one done 10 years ago.

Fisher3309 · 2020-09-27T04:45:28+00:00

Fuck abortion

cabbytabby · 2020-09-27T06:32:41+00:00

Conversely, the same is true for a pro-life man; if he would like to keep the baby and she chooses to have an abortion, tough titties!

Foreverythingareason · 2020-09-27T09:10:31+00:00

I think the fact that men only really have two forms of contraception is an issue. Men should have more choice in how they control their bodies.

Wisemanner · 2020-09-27T09:39:25+00:00

A lot of anti-MRAs triggered here. Also, I would guess, a lot of angry fathers of daughters. No more divorce rape, no more free living, no more free children which they will refuse to let the father ever see or have some influence on. Yes, I can see why they are angry. We're doing the right thing, folks.

mhandanna · 2020-10-04T01:14:00+00:00

Mod's despam this please

Sir_Senseless · 2020-09-26T22:10:19+00:00

The right to intact genitalia.

Dynged · 2020-09-26T19:55:50+00:00

BuT mUh FeMiNiSm AnD fEmAlE oPpReSsIoN REEEEEEE

zcrash970 · 2020-09-27T01:13:17+00:00

And why I'm happy to be bi and prefer to be single. Greatly lower the chance in having a fuck up

2020-09-27T04:24:41+00:00

This is why I'm gay

bonapetits · 2020-09-27T05:32:42+00:00

That's why you never admit the baby was yours. There's always deniability and just don't take a DNA test. If they can't prove it they can't make you pay.

moly_b_denum · 2020-09-27T06:18:21+00:00

In Australia men don't have the right to be innocent until proven guilty. Our protection laws have "apprehended violence orders" which have huge impacts on the target of the order but no judicial oversight for how they are granted. Once you are subject to an AVO you need to prove your innocence to have it lifted. But, when you think about it, we prove guilt based on evidence which makes sense. It is basically impossible to prove innocence based on the lack of evidence particularly when it is "he said she said". So these AVOs get granted to basically any woman who says she is scared and then they ruin the blokes life. Notably it is effectively impossible for a man to get an AVO against a women. My son was molested by his mum and recieved absolutely not protection despite the very real threat to his safety.

morerokk · 2020-09-27T09:34:44+00:00

Don't forget the right to vote.

Women get the right to vote, men have to sign up for selective service first.

mustangfrank · 2020-09-27T18:48:11+00:00

Here is my list of 100 disadvantages of being a man

Men’s deaths during a war are far greater than women’s.
Men’s deaths make up the vast majority of work related deaths.
Men naturally die younger than women.
Men are expendable, “Women and Children First”, ”Men are expected to die for country”
Men cannot opt out of war by getting pregnant in the armed forces.
Men have no choice concerning a pregnancy.
Men can't have children.
Men can be forced to be fathers.
Men can have the right to be a father denied.
Women can legally abandon children at Fire Stations, Police Stations or use Adoption, men cannot.
Women: My body, My choice, Men’s Responsibility.
A father’s emotional contribution to the family is considered less important than the mother’s.
Men’s love of their children is not considered as strong as a mother’s.
Society has no concern for the lives of divorced men.
Men are subjected to being “Baby Trapped” (Intentional Pregnancy by women, Stealthing)
Men are subject to Paternity Fraud (Deceived by a woman to support child/children by other man/men)
Men paying alimony disguised as child support.
Men are assumed to have an endless supply of income for child support regardless of the condition of the economy and their employment.
Men pay a disproportionate share of the tax burden.
Men consume less in tax benefits than women (Welfare, WIC, Food Stamps, Medicaid, Social Security)
Men pay taxes to support children they didn’t create (Welfare, Food Stamps, Medicaid, etc.)
Men are blamed for the poor choices that women make concerning the men women choose. (All the men I date are a-holes. Why are all men jerks?)
Men are expected to adhere to social mores hundreds of years old.
Women can choose to be an “Independent Woman” vs. “Traditional Role” whenever convenient or benefits them most at the time.
Men are expected to approach women for dates.
Men are expected to pay for the dates.
Men are forced to finance organizations that are openly hostile to them i.e. Women’s Studies, Affirmative Action, Universities and Colleges, etc.
Short men are despised or disrespected by women (Manlette, Scrimp, Midget, Runt) as easily seen in women’s dating profile ads. (Women feel entitled to be rude and insult short men)
Sex is easily obtained for women, not for men.
Men have the burden of proof for consensual sex, no such requirement for women.
Men are responsible for women’s actions (Drunk woman climbs into the front seat of a car and drives away and kills someone, she cannot say, “I was drunk; I didn’t know what I was doing.” The same drunk woman climbs into the back seat of the same car to have sex, later she can say, “I was drunk; I didn’t know what I was doing.” She is not responsible for her actions and the man is.
The charge of Rape is based upon a woman’s word. Man is arrested only on her word.
The crime of false rape is not punished as harshly as the crime of rape.
Man's reputation can be easily ruined with no consequences to the woman (Mattress Girl, Columbia University)
Male circumcision is not seen as genital mutilation.
Prostate Cancer receives little to no public attention vs Breast Cancer in society.
Under-funding of research for male-specific medical disorders (prostate cancer, etc.)
Father’s rights are almost non-existent when compared to the mother’s in a divorce.
Men have the entire legal system stacked against them in legal dispute or crime with a woman.
Men receive longer sentences for the same crime. (Lori Laughlin 2 months, her husband Mossimo Giannulli 5 months)
Affirmative Action, (Politically Correct Discrimination against White Males, based upon Sex and Race.) Most women lack the integrity or honesty to admit this, especially feminist women.
Men’s Rights Activist meetings and forums at Universities are routinely disrupted by Feminists
There are fewer men in college than women (2,200,000 more women than men in 2019)
Most Men (18-24) are invisible to females, (The 80/20 rule)
Violence Double Standard (Woman hits a man. You can’t take a punch?) (Man hits a woman, he goes to jail)
Men are perceived as sexual predators, naturally violent or having criminal intent.
Men are not valued, just for being.
Men don’t get special treatment as “Men’s Night” vs women’s “Ladies Night” for drink specials, admission, etc.
Men’s social injustices are dismissed out right or laughed off by SJW’s, MSM, women in general and especially feminist women. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WMuzhQXJoY&feature=emb_rel_end
Men are seldom allowed to be a victim.

DeltaHawk98 · 2020-09-26T20:18:29+00:00

The only problem I have with this is that legislation has a typo on page 6.

ShutupPussy · 2020-09-26T22:12:02+00:00

Is there a non reddit link just for this slideshow?

2020-09-26T22:12:50+00:00

The custody one makes me sad. Maybe in the future some court cases will be read to courts without people knowing what gender the defendants are, only the facts of their cases

near-forces · 2020-09-26T23:36:25+00:00

Ohh yeah, and include some details as to why these rights are divided this way too!

ihatemyself42069666 · 2020-09-26T23:41:58+00:00

Can I gets stats on the one in six part? I believe it I just want to be able to prove it.

MeatyDogFruit · 2020-09-27T00:42:54+00:00

Very good post. Would be nice to add the many other examples though.

gelectrode · 2020-09-27T00:57:04+00:00

Gay dudes just sitting in the corner like hmm...

2020-09-27T01:16:33+00:00

Should have gone even more In depth

omegaphallic · 2020-09-27T01:26:56+00:00

1 in 6 was better then I would have expected,, although I'm betting they count joint custody as a win for the man.

fishandchipzzz · 2020-09-27T01:30:34+00:00

I totally agree with this, however abortion rights are still not provided enough and saying that women have that right all the time might be pushing the idea that we don’t need to fight anymore for abortion rights

PuppyLynch · 2020-09-27T01:33:51+00:00

I think it would make more sense for the graphic to start after the pregnancy. Obviously no one but the woman should have the final say on what she does with her own body.

With that said, I agree that a man shouldn't be held responsible for a baby he never wanted to have. The problem is that it's difficult to prove.

As soon as he gets the news of the woman's pregnancy, the father could go to court and get a legal document saying he's exempt from fatherhood. However, what if the woman disappears only to reappear 9 months later on the guy's doorstep holding junior in her arms?

As kind of an aside, the thought of kids being handed off to the state because their parents didn't want them is terribly sad. I'm all for giving an added tax break to low income earners who don't have children.

JaceStratton · 2020-09-27T02:57:16+00:00

Alright well paying for someone else's child is most definitely an edge case. It's not fair but neither is it a fair point to make

haw35ome · 2020-09-27T02:57:24+00:00

I agree with all of it, but can someone please explain about what choice(s) a man should have, in contrast to a woman's choice of abortion/no abortion? I don't know, but I would like to understand

UberDuperDrew · 2020-09-27T03:12:40+00:00

Dang, man.

surfguitarboy · 2020-09-27T04:49:49+00:00

u/pinksunsetskies

jennerjenner123 · 2020-09-27T05:14:04+00:00

i got a little confused when you said that the father wasn't actually the father, but then after that, you said the man grows to love his child. his fake child? and if he never even wanted to be a father throughout this entire scenario, but then all of a sudden decides that he loves being the father of his fake baby so much that he wants to divorce the wife (i didn't know the man and woman were married? i would hope the man and woman had talked about their opinions on having kids before getting married, having unprotected sex, and finishing inside of the female) and take custody of the child...the child that technically and biologically belongs to the woman

staphyloplasty · 2020-09-27T05:21:00+00:00

Paternity leave. My fiance got a week and a half to spend with our newborn son. It was the worst. He couldn’t spend time with our son and I lost my biggest help and support for eight to ten hours a day. Maternity leave is bad in this country but paternity leave is even worse.

cp_shopper · 2020-09-27T05:21:11+00:00

That last one is a little iffy. Men are entitled to custody and women can’t deprive men of custody unless there’s physical abuse. The opposite also applies

StunningJudge · 2020-09-27T06:30:40+00:00

Boobie

threedeenyc · 2020-09-27T07:12:04+00:00

New poster here. I’m not trying to be a dick though this may come across as dick-ish.

While I agree in principle, wouldn’t a lot of this be avoided by not having sex before you are married. Abstain from hooking up? Get married? Can still fool around of course.

Delfi101 · 2020-09-27T07:20:54+00:00

Good post as it points out how hard it can be for men to get custody or a dna check, but it leaves a lot out.

A right to an abortion is not granted. Both men and women can be forced to have kids they don't want or be pressured to give up kids they wish to keep.

Women can be forced to pay child support too and lose custody although it is usually considered not the norm. It is the norms of society that favor women in child rearing as that is one of the few areas where it is considered acceptable for a woman to be in charge (As long as the man isnt super rich/powerful).

Want to change that? Support peoples rights to determine their own path in life even when it is outside the gender norms.

Bumiisbestboi · 2020-09-27T07:26:14+00:00

This reminds me I really need to get a vasectomy sooner rather than later.

jasperfilofax · 2020-09-27T07:49:17+00:00

So the moral of the story is use a condom if you don’t want kids?

Chief_Scrub · 2020-09-27T08:05:28+00:00

Please include this is only for Murica. Some of the other countries do not have a complete retarded lawsystem.

B-r-u_h · 2020-09-27T08:33:35+00:00

Most of these examples make sense to me though, no law is perfect but it is better to have laws that are fair in most situations than the few cases where the law is unfairly applied or to favour people in the worst case scenarios. Sure a lot of men might have to pay unfair child support but it is better that a few suffer than people in the more common case of men having unprotected sex or rape scenarios in which case the law makes sense. There is probably room for reform in these laws to fit a more case to case type of deal but we shouldn't just flip a switch that makes it a mans choice to force a woman into a dangerous procedure or financially and socially marooning someone because of a mistake you made.

SelfBindingContact · 2020-09-27T08:49:22+00:00

I try my best to talk to people about the paternity issue. Im not sure what “fair” would look like but I do believe men should have the right to terminate paternity.

Brusanan · 2020-09-27T09:03:56+00:00

Really good format.

Big_Cheeks_CO · 2020-09-27T09:11:42+00:00

holy shit 🤯

2020-09-27T12:09:44+00:00

Who gives a damn about women in combat situations as regards the inequities between men and women in western society. That is 99.99% irrelevant and the least of our problems and not worth discussing above other more glaring issues much closer to home considering things that effect men daily and ongoingly. Stop wasting your time worrying about combat situations. Most people, men or women, will never see combat.

yesIdofloss · 2020-09-27T15:26:23+00:00

None of these things are actual rights. Just social expectations.

yesIdofloss · 2020-09-27T15:34:31+00:00

Obviously you should be able to opt out during pregma cy if you do not want a child but the mother wishes to keep it, but the idea of anyone but the woman getting a say in having an abortion or not is insane.

I've done pregnancy, my body is forever damaged, and my health was at risk before birth. But that was my choice to make. Being forced to give birth or not can lead to emotional issues that take years to recover from, so that isnt comparable.

Financially- thats a different story.

Alistair_TheAlvarian · 2020-09-27T17:35:09+00:00

I thought we outlawed debtors prisons.

Or was that not what we did.

Mxa130_ · 2020-09-28T17:20:36+00:00

It breaks my heart how equality has only gotten worse over these past 200 years

jessiethelostboy · 2020-09-29T23:47:21+00:00

I call bull shit on equality.women and men both only want equality when it suits them.

ffatimasaleem77 · 2020-09-30T07:05:20+00:00

Wow, I actually never saw the man's side of the story when it comes to pregnancy and having to take care of a child. This is horrible.

randomravioli · 2020-09-30T09:01:12+00:00

so forcing an abortion is fine somehow? damn this is fucked up.

not_of_this_world1 · 2020-09-26T19:07:41+00:00

No one should have the right to abandon their child. Don’t have sex if you don’t want a kid.

CreamZebra · 2020-09-27T00:58:40+00:00

Somebody said something about 'stop blaming women', then deleted it before I could reply...

Here is that reply:

But here's the problem: Modern "feminism" (so-called) is the handmaiden of these 'old white dudes' and acts less in the interest of ge der equality then it does in pushing a 'men are bad' narrative. They certainly don't put their necks out for men's parental rights. The numbers don't lie. All scientific date indicates that men are in crisis and much of it can be blamed on misandry and female privilege. Feminists will argue that this is still 'patriarchy', but a rose by any other name... Men blame women for their problems because in many men's lives experience, women actually CAUSED most of their (actual) problems.

InformalCriticism · 2020-09-27T01:08:22+00:00

This needs international attention; let the world see how much this country shits on fathers.

AelaminR · 2020-09-27T02:21:34+00:00

I think these are all great points except for the third image. The 2nd image says that nobody should be forced to be a parent, which is completely true. They can make that choice, but that choice comes in the form of not having sex. If they do have a pregnancy, then rather than the man having the same choice to choose abortion, neither of them should have that choice. However, I still agree with slide 6 that they shouldn't be forced to pay child support.

RoastedReviews · 2020-09-27T02:42:01+00:00

Sometimes I wonder if the modern man shares my rage toward the injustices of this world.

Trauma-Dolll · 2020-09-27T03:00:35+00:00

Man, this hit me harder than my child support.

PIZZA564738 · 2020-09-27T03:39:59+00:00

i believe men should be able to have an opt out phase during a pregnancy within the same time a women can get an abortion. They give up all rights to the child and have to pay no support.

2020-09-27T05:24:43+00:00

I did not know how unfair it is.

Ridiculous. And I agree with the other redditors in the comments section. There are many many many more cases of ridiculous gender biased laws.

2020-09-27T07:21:39+00:00

I’ve been screaming this exact same shit for years!

the23one · 2020-09-26T18:06:21+00:00

I'm pretty sure in my area of the US a man can sign over his parental rights. It's a process that takes a few months (they want you to go to see a mental health professional to make sure you are making the decision with sound mind), but it can be done. I don't know anyone that has done it, buy I've heard it's a possibility.

EDIT:

Thank you to those informing me that signing rights away would still require financial support for the child. I did not know this. I don't know much about it, but had heard this was an option.

brain_flaps · 2020-09-27T01:10:23+00:00

I will say fgm is much worse than a baby getting circumcised, though both should be made after mental evaluation and after age of consent

HanSupreme · 2020-09-26T23:05:50+00:00

Seems equal to me

/s

2020-09-26T23:31:20+00:00

At certain points, “you should have used birth control” is true. Like if a woman were to say, it’s not fair I’m the one who has to have an abortion or go through nine months of pregnancy. Only way to avoid that is use reliable birth control 100% of the time. Probably the same with a man saying it’s not fair a woman can choose abortion. Can’t be helped if you get someone pregnant. I get your other points though.

MadEzra64 · 2020-09-27T00:20:35+00:00

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VEXtheMEX · 2020-09-27T01:02:41+00:00

I'm no attorney but isn't most of this rendered pointless if you simply don't sign the birth certificate?

uneffableapple · 2020-09-28T10:02:49+00:00

this is all be ause pf the patriarchy and the stereotype that women are more nurturing, which can in times juat be worse for the child. all of which are issues that are covered in feminism, if you lot are truly concerned about this, perhaps look at a feminist sub.

despite the name feminism is about equality for both genders.

(also instead of being accusational, perhaps remember that these stereotypes were also created by women, AND men.)

homoeroticecream · 2020-09-30T06:26:38+00:00

This is extremely heteronormative. Also, a man can choose to get an abortion only if he is carrying the child. Trans men exist. The choice should be up to the owner of the body imo bc abortion & birth are physical & psychological trauma.

2020-09-27T03:47:41+00:00

Lol wear a condom

Banethoth · 2020-09-27T01:57:23+00:00

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reillyqyote · 2020-09-27T02:59:06+00:00

This is some of the most idiotic trash I've ever read.

2020-09-27T07:20:51+00:00

You guys worry about the dumbest shit

Title	Rights that men don't have (but women have)
Author	OkLetterhead9
Upvotes	6052
Comments	472
Date	September 26, 2020 4:19 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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