We need to keep saying this...

TrilIias · 2023-12-20T16:37:47+00:00

I don't like "not all men." It concedes too much. I prefer "not most men," or even "almost no men."

ElisaSKy · 2023-12-20T16:34:55+00:00

We need to stop saying "not all men" and start saying "so few/barely any men".

ApatheticHumor · 2023-12-20T16:31:40+00:00

To feminists: ALL men are part of the patriarchy, no matter how impoverished. Also, Feminism isn't about genuine grievances, it's about hatred and spiting men. No amount of showing feminists the facts will convince them otherwise as they are a hate movement.

hottake_toothache · 2023-12-20T18:37:10+00:00

I prefer, "stop slandering men." The point of all this is to back-foot men, and give women in the moral upper-hand at all levels--from public leadership to the bedroom. This is destructive to relationships, because the slanderers are sweeping in irrelevancies.

skllyskullstyle · 2023-12-20T19:19:44+00:00

People who have gotten offended by "not all men" are immature.

TheTinMenBlog · 2023-12-20T16:21:48+00:00

I’m going to say something uncontroversially controversial, and that is this:the vast majority of men are good.

Men are wonderful, kind, and self-sacrificing creatures.

They are giving, thoughtful and courageous; they are smart, and funny, and charismatic, just as much as women are.

They are not animals; they are not toxic, problematic, or defective.

They are not oppressors, tyrants, or predators - nor ‘rapists in waiting’.

And they find violence against women abhorrent.

They are not fragile. They are not entitled. They are not children.

They have already done “the work”; more than we could possibility imagine or ever hope to give them credit for.

‘Men’ keep the lights on, the water running, and the drains flowing.

They keep the the bins empty, and supermarkets stocked, risking - and often losing - their lives to keep this impossibly complex infrastructure of ours ticking, and our privileged lives comfortable.

They are in the mines, and up the pylons, they are on the roads, atop the skyscrapers, or deep in the seas.

It is not fair that the identity of ‘men’ is hijacked by a violent and problematic few, it is not right to smear the whole, with the actions of a minority.

And so we must push back against those who exploit these narrow views of masculinity, for their own personal gain.

Because men are not the enemy.

And women are not the enemy.

The enemy are those who attempt to pit one against another, on both sides, and who do not speak for us.

So yes we must keep on saying ‘not all men’, again and again, until the rest of society is comfortable saying so too.

So let’s be clear - it’s ‘not all men.’

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actualsize123 · 2023-12-21T00:56:07+00:00

Most billionaires are men, and most homeless people are men.

Reason_Above_All · 2023-12-20T17:22:56+00:00

Reason does not work on unreasonable people. BUT how I wish it did. Great sentiment I really hope it works.

AaViOnBando · 2023-12-20T21:22:20+00:00

Whenever we say something about 90% of women feminsts start yelling "NOT ALL WOMEN😭" "YOU ARE GENERALIZING😡"

But when they say something about 10% of men, or fuck it, 5% of men, they are somehow not generalizing.

The problem is that feminists, "not all women" just feminists, cannot comprehend statistics, and cannot comprehend the notion of "statistically irrelevant" therefore will shift this notion to fit whatever they are saying.

1% is statistically irrelevant, 99% counts more when taking a conclusion, basic statistics I was taught in an industrial high-school's marketing class, and trust me the worst kind of kids went to my school and we was taught that shit in class💀

My ex, who isn't a crazy feminist btw, is literally a future mathematician and couldn't argue properly about statistics on male/female societal problems.

The problem is we should stop listening to stupid shit said by both parties involved.

IdletRusselBrandMe · 2023-12-20T16:22:54+00:00

uh... Women dont see the men not on top as having value. They're worker drones.

Thats why.

Infamous-Ad-9905 · 2023-12-20T21:34:17+00:00

If you said "all women" you would be castrated and hung as an example. Its actually crazy the amount of irony and contradiction in this argument.

Ok-Yogurtcloset7394 · 2023-12-20T16:58:39+00:00

Yes we do.

I have spent way more time than i should lately to sensitivice feminist spaces to this.

I love it whenever they make theire super sad videos of femizides when 80% of victims of murder are men. then they always come with the good old "and who kills them? men 🫵"

I can't Take those people seriously anymore

KPplumbingBob · 2023-12-21T08:57:04+00:00

It's interesting how angry and defensive people get over someone saying it. Like, you dared to defend a gender as a whole, that must mean you don't condemn the bad individuals. Then they tell you you're probably one of those men as otherwise you would not be bothered about being labeled a criminal.

Harpua81 · 2023-12-20T17:13:49+00:00

These are the kinds of posts I Save for a rainy day. Ty OP

danielm316 · 2023-12-20T17:17:56+00:00

Good post.

tideshark · 2023-12-20T20:10:04+00:00

It’s funny bc all the bad things they trying to portray of men, could be so many good things as well.

LAMGE2 · 2023-12-20T17:09:55+00:00

A feminazi is not going to go by logic, they are going to go with whatever is pragmatic to their privileges.

n0rmalhum4n · 2023-12-20T19:49:44+00:00

This is a great sentiment, and encouraging, thankyou.

Careless-Win-1663 · 2023-12-21T00:21:51+00:00

half of these don't even make any sense, ruled the world and billionares?? many feminists don't seem to realise that 99.9999% of men are suffering from the exact same problems as themselves.

ButWhatOfGlen · 2023-12-20T19:07:46+00:00

❤️

Important-Back-9545 · 2023-12-21T01:54:12+00:00

Classic TinMen W

shit-zen-giggles · 2023-12-20T19:25:41+00:00

Please remember to choose a descriptive title for your posts from now on. It's in our sub's rules.

Thank you!

StrandedGecko · 2023-12-21T08:13:58+00:00

Anyone tries that stink with me and I’ll ask them if all women are baby killers.

RatDontPanic · 2023-12-21T08:18:59+00:00

Yes. We need to shout it and be belligerent about it. Never date a woman who has a problem with it. Make people know if they have a problem with "not all men" they're going to have a problem.

TheMassiveMexipino02 · 2023-12-21T22:45:30+00:00

It baffles how much feminists despises women being generalized by men but yet majority of their rhetoric is overgeneralizing men and when men clap back and defend a generalization feminists impose, all of a sudden it reverts back to “misogyny” 😑.You just can’t win…

asianfoodtofulover · 2023-12-22T01:16:52+00:00

Some of the arguments feminists use against men sound like arguments use to discriminate against other groups

“Men commit the most crime so I have a reason to be afraid of them” Replace men with black in that sentence and you’ll see the problem

“Men are overrepresented in the 1%” So are Jewish Americans and Asian Americans, which some white Christian Americans use as a reason to discriminate against Jews / Asians, seeing them as taking the success that they think they’re entitled to having

denvercaniac · 2023-12-20T20:20:45+00:00

Or flip it around. "Not all women but enough women.."

Lucky-Slice399 · 2023-12-20T21:26:50+00:00

"Men have ruled the world for thousands of years"

I wonder why, could be because they were more capable?

WareGaKaminari · 2023-12-21T11:08:36+00:00

"Not all men" sounds really bad. Like there is some exception, but that's it.

helloimderek · 2023-12-20T21:16:11+00:00

Not all men. Don't focus on all the men, fellas. Focus on yourself and being a better man yourself, lads.

asianfoodtofulover · 2023-12-22T01:09:43+00:00

What does the 1% 63% thing mean?

Justin113113 · 2023-12-24T15:28:06+00:00

It feels like a lot of men I have to be honest. You go on YouTube comments and see some of the stuff being written. A male content creator can do what he wants pretty much. But every single girl on there doing something as simple as playing the piano gets a bunch of shitty comments she shouldn’t have to put up with.

It’s definitely not all men. It’s not most men I would like to think. But a lot of guys are shit when it comes to aggression and sexism and violence and just general douchebag behaviour and it is a far higher percentage than it is for women. When guys try to make out like it’s not I just don’t know what to say.

PimHazDa · 2023-12-21T01:19:33+00:00

I think op doesn't get that the issue isn't the what percent of the population are perpetrators, but actually what percent of perpetrators are who. The U.S. Department of Justice estimates that 95% of reported assaults are committed by men against women. Now I know that number is definitely skewed due to the taboos of men appearing weak, but although these men only make up 0.2% of the total population; they are in the vast majority in the population of perpetrators.

Justin113113 · 2023-12-24T16:28:58+00:00

It’s not all men but because of a man or some men, my sister has to go through a lot of hoops I don’t have to to ensure she gets home safely.

It becomes “all men” because she doesn’t know which of the 40 at the bar is that one who follows her home. Its better she distrusts the 39 than ends up getting raped by the one. She shouldn’t have to worry about any man. Im not worried about a woman abducting me.

Society has been made unsafe, by men. Not all, but enough to be a societal problem to deal with and men are still part of society. We can’t keep turning a blind eye to it and saying not our fault. Other men are the main threat to our physical safety as well and calling it out is the right thing to do but you all want to have a pity party.

-GoldenHandTheJust- · 2023-12-21T00:42:37+00:00

Yikes this post is stupid. Pretty much encapsulates this subs lack of a holistic understanding.

Maleficent-Divide-38 · 2023-12-22T22:48:58+00:00

But mostly men 👽

KissCutMe · 2023-12-20T17:46:39+00:00

Are all guns loaded 100% of the time? No. But what’s the rule? Treat all guns like they’re loaded.

Mountain_Collar_7620 · 2023-12-20T17:31:10+00:00

Whow the camp council has come up with better slogans - I’m sure the Kommandress reads these with great concern and will provide food, medicine and Votes 🗳️ any day now … and your own country back.

Keep at it !! Just be sure to roll up your banners and go home quietly once someone sagely nods from the balcony and sends you some sacks of potato’s we wouldn’t want any actual unpleasantry to occurr it interferes with their march to total victory if no one tills the fields for their standard of totally earned living.

Inspiring slides , patriarchy propaganda department I’m feeling egg-stremely empowered and roused 😂

Alert_Swordfish8711 · 2023-12-20T21:34:43+00:00

Thanks, great job !

Haunting-Plum5305 · 2023-12-21T06:01:13+00:00

I don't understand what the picture is referring to?

Haunting-Plum5305 · 2023-12-21T06:03:07+00:00

My bad ignore previous post I didn't realize it was a scroll, I just saw a pic of a crown with the words not all men, sorry about that

couldntyoujust · 2023-12-21T06:30:15+00:00

This fallacy of saying that because most of something is men that all men are trash... or at least enough men are trash that they should always be held under suspicion, that's called the composition fallacy.

queenAlexislexis · 2023-12-21T09:32:25+00:00

Facts

asianfoodtofulover · 2023-12-22T01:10:43+00:00

What does 1% accountable for 63% of crimes mean?

Alternative_Poem445 · 2023-12-22T05:46:05+00:00

being a man is not the identifying feature of being rich and pwerful, being rich and powerful is.

queenAlexislexis · 2023-12-23T19:57:22+00:00

All men are good

Codename-18 · 2023-12-24T21:01:53+00:00

We need to say "women do it too" and use the tu quoques fallacy like they do, and win.

Pr3ttynp3tty · 2023-12-25T08:51:40+00:00

And yet it's mostly men

AcidKritana3 · 2024-01-08T04:34:29+00:00

Most criminals, especially violent ones, are circumcised. However, women commit similar levels of violence, especially when circumcision is taken into consideration.

Title	We need to keep saying this...
Author	TheTinMenBlog
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Comments	295
Date	December 20, 2023 4:21 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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