Has pornography ruined male and female standards?

kochIndustriesRussia · 2024-07-22T03:25:35+00:00

The pornography ban would go nowhere.

As long as the first amendment stands, porn will remain as American as apple pie.

Many different groups have tried to get porn banned over the last 50 years. All have failed.

Evening-Barracuda740 · 2024-07-22T10:47:46+00:00

No, dating apps did

ilike18yoblackpussy · 2024-07-22T08:55:59+00:00

No it hasn't. Whenever people talk about porn, they act like all women in porn look the same. They don't. With the advent of the internet there's been access to an infinite variety of types of people doing porn (although, as OP pointed out, governments and special interests have been trying to limit access to it, which has somewhat reduced variety).

So every female porn performer isn't a 25 yo skinny white blonde with big breast implants, or whatever the stereotypical pornstar looks like in the minds of anti-porn types.

There are just about every race in porn, from 18 to geriatric ages. All kinds of weights, hair colours (including unnatural ones), breast sizes. There's midgets, amputees, transgenders, BBWs, skinny, hairy women, hairless fully shaved/waxed women, bald women, women with short hair, long hair, tall, short, fake tits, fake butts, natural bodies, hairy pussies, shaved pussies, flat chests, big natural tits, black, white, Asian, Latina, etc.- pretty much any physical type that exists irl exists in porn. Not to mention all kinds of sex acts, from solo chicks to all kinds of extreme stuff.

With so much variety, what happens is the viewers will just go for whatever they're into and ignore or avoid what they're not into. Just like non-porn stuff. People who watch YT will watch videos they're interested in (or sometimes rage bait videos) and ignore the stuff that doesn't engage them.

KentuckyCriedFlickin · 2024-07-22T06:58:58+00:00

Social media has enhanced whatever porn has done.

Isn't it on every platform?

harmonica2 · 2024-07-22T02:46:11+00:00

I agree that pornography has made people's standards too high as my standards used to be too high because of it.

However, how do you know what counts as porn though and where is the line drawn?

obviousredflag · 2024-07-22T07:46:31+00:00

Hollywood has ruined male and female standards.

SadCahita · 2024-07-22T11:44:04+00:00

No. Women have high standards due to their hypergamic nature, social media, movies and dating apps. Men get off to almost anything (this IS enhanced due to porn) and don't have the leverage to look for a model gf

AidsVictim · 2024-07-22T07:32:30+00:00

No, not majorly. Men still find the average woman attractive and rate them along a normally distributed bell curve. If porn had some major effect on male standards we should see some distortion in that curve towards women who have typical porn star appearance and a corresponding drop in average womens ratings and desirability - but that's not what we see (although the "porn look" is more popular now, it didn't hurt average womens attractiveness). The largest effect it had is men wanting to replicate porn sex acts with their partners.

I don't think it's had a major effect on womens standards, although large penises are probably more popular/eroticized than ever, and more women model themselves on the stereotypical porn look.

Bare in mind: based on Porject 2025 (for people who still vote) Trump is setting the stage for a pornography ban which while I understand is under the perview of Congress considering abortion rights already being demolished I have a feeling this will too pass.

Project 2025 is a Heritage Foundation platform that Trump has specifically rejected.

A_real_keeper_LOL · 2024-07-22T12:41:18+00:00

Seriously, you political operatives never sleep, I swear. Trump has nothing to do with The Heritage Foundations 900+ page document called Project 2025.

MikeArrow · 2024-07-22T02:31:02+00:00

I don't think porn did for me. But movies (and celebrity culture in general) definitely did.

In high school I was only attracted to the girls that looked like the actresses I saw in movies. My main crush was a tall, athletic brunette that strongly resembled a young Angelina Jolie, for example. My other crush was a slender, pale blonde that looked like she stepped out of a Tim Burton movie.

Which is totally unrealistic for a nerdy, introverted loner to expect to get as a girlfriend, but it is what it is.

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Purple_Kangaroo8549 · 2024-07-22T14:25:00+00:00

I always wanted to tie down a spank a chick, my physical standards of "don't be obese" remain consistent.

Bro_with_passport · 2024-07-22T02:20:35+00:00

If you can’t spell “project 2025” correctly, I’m not sure how a discussion is going to go. Like the first sentence started stupidly and just never recovered.

That being said, Trump hasn’t even read, much less endorsed project 2025. On top of that, I’ve read parts of the document, I didn’t see anything about a porn ban. You also didn’t answer a pretty fundamental objection to the plan: banning porn is unconstitutional. How would Trump, even if he wanted to, do something that would break our constitutional rights? The supreme court would swat that down really quick.

badgersonice · 2024-07-22T12:13:05+00:00

One thing I think porn has changed for the worse is the expectation of doing sexual things that used to be pretty fringe, especially for early in a relationship. It’s very intimidating for young adults just entering the dating scene to think their opposite expects things like anal, slapping, or strangling.

As for banning it… ugh, I’m undecided. But if we go as far as banning it, can we ban social media too?

obese_tank · 2024-07-22T02:28:26+00:00

Project 2025 is not Trump's platform.
Roe v. Wade was judicial activist hogwash, and they were right to overrule it.
At the RNC Trump was the one who pushed his party to drop abortion from their platform.

No_Matter_8648 · 2024-07-22T19:00:52+00:00

What a load of horse shit. The answer is no. The rejection is a one way street. Its women who say no to every single guy who tries it has nothing to do with porn

Lemme guess this is more fat positivity gaslighting? If the women here spent half as much time trying to lose weight as they did trying to convince dudes to love the fat they too could be the girls who reject every guy 🤦‍♂️

knowpain13 · 2024-07-22T15:51:20+00:00

No, high standards are good

grasso86 · 2024-07-23T04:44:11+00:00

Im not a porn watcher but I know plenty of couples that have watched it together. It doesn't seem to change their relationship dynamic from what Ive seen, theyre just regular couples and porn is just another kind of fantasy people consume. I think the majority of people don't use porn as a standard or shape their behavior off it. Probably just a minority do. I'm no expert on the matter but I'm not sure theres a reason to ban it, regulate it sure but thats different. Like I said I'm no expert on the subject, it just seems from my observation that people that watch it have pretty normal long term relationships. At least within my social circle. Most people know the difference between sexual fantasy and real life. Like they know the difference between violent movies and real life.

Salt_Alternative_86 · 2024-07-23T06:21:03+00:00

Ok, so 1) no, porn is bad but not the root of this problem as that existed before this without these issues, and 2) you're arguing in bad faith to push your political agenda into places it doesn't belong in very awkward and pointless ways because nobody is going to change their root values because "muh porn collection".

YearnsToDestroySun · 2024-07-23T08:55:02+00:00

Every Republican I've talked to doesn't take project 2025 seriously and neither does Trump. So I would be wary of the media propaganda. I mean remember when they were all lying Biden is in the best cognitive state of his life, and then somehow everyone was shocked at his debate performance.

Feisty_Response_9401 · 2024-07-23T17:29:25+00:00

Trump never favored Project 2025 and Porn bans have been proposed by both the Right (religious) and the Left (feminists) since ever.

AI porn will finally bury any natural beauty standards forever.

Jello_Vivid · 2024-07-23T20:26:38+00:00

Glad I'm not American and porn is based you have so much free stuff you don't need other people and you get escorts outside of America legally.

False-Purple3882 · 2024-07-21T23:57:41+00:00

Pornography has made misogynistic dynamics within heterosexual relationships worse. Men have grown increasingly entitled to subject women to violent sex acts they see in porn.

squiddy_s550gt · 2024-07-22T12:52:10+00:00

Porn didn't ruin standards.. people are just fatter than they were decades ago.

Men aren't choosing porn over women, they are using porn as a fall back.

Also- project 2025 is just some super PAC wishlist dead on arrival but low IQ normies are easily worked up over nothing

Easy-Zone8308 · 2024-07-22T09:26:38+00:00

I think so

False-Purple3882 · 2024-07-21T23:57:30+00:00

Pornography has made misogynistic dynamics within heterosexual relationships worse. Men have grown increasingly entitled to subject women to violent sex acts they see in porn.

Planthoe30 · 2024-07-22T05:58:41+00:00

Trump has sex with porn stars he isn’t going to ban porn.

Makuta_Servaela · 2024-07-21T23:44:24+00:00

Banned? No. At its basis, porn is the art of sex. Art and sex have both existed longer than humans have, and both are staple parts of us.

In the recent few decades, there have been upticks of specific kinds of porn and specific methods of creating and sharing said porn. That should be discussed and moderated, although I think the focus should be more on the creating than the sharing. For example, restricting live-action porn way more than restricting porn art, due to the sex slavery needed for the amount of live-action porn that exists, and heavily cracking down on regulating sex-work and live-action porn publishing until it becomes economically unfeasible for human traffickers to create it.

Regarding your title question- absolutely. It's a fantasy. People get into it without having a proper sex-ed to compare it to, and that hurts their standards. That's less on the art's fault and more on our sex-ed's fault, though.

Particular_Soft_6006 · 2024-07-22T05:24:41+00:00

If this ban goes through what will we do for men who touch grass and still can't get a relationship? You won't answer because you don't care, all that matters to you is that it's gone. You don't care if some men kill themselves because of it. We aren't entitled to a relationships and sex but this isn't enough for women you won't to take porn away too.

SaBahRub · 2024-07-22T15:42:24+00:00

I don’t care if it’s ruined standards. No one’s forcing you to watch it; that’s on you

I do care if people are being harmed by producing it. That’s all

Independent-Mail-227 · 2024-07-21T23:41:47+00:00

No porn has no effect on standards.

Social media tho ruined women standards.

Also, pornography ban is a good thing.

Title	Has pornography ruined male and female standards?
Author	throwaway477549
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Date	July 21, 2024 1:28 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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