Tried following the advice on this sub - now she’s furious and saying I was harassing her?"

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LankyPaleontologist2 · 2024-10-09T17:10:29+00:00

You need better social queues to see if she’s being receptive to your actions or if you’re creeping her out, which seems like the latter. Social calibration is something you’ll gain w/ experience. Too many factors at play to say what is the reason for her rejection. Could be wrong time, place, environment, she wasn’t ready, not feeling the vibe, etc. Again, experience with social interactions will help you grow .

KingKongSize · 2024-10-09T17:29:35+00:00

Dude is trolling, ain’t nobody’s senses tingling in this one?

No-Buyer-6278 · 2024-10-09T17:14:44+00:00

Baby steps brother and check her reaction. If she’s cold to your move then back off and try again later. Push/pull. Sometimes you can do everything right and it still doesn’t work though.

entitledwank · 2024-10-09T17:18:52+00:00

where’s the thank you for spreading autism awareness guy

MSHUser · 2024-10-09T17:24:11+00:00

Can you point to the posts you learned this advice from? You said you learned it from this sub correct? I'd like to know which posts you're talking about here.

epimpstyle · 2024-10-09T17:14:42+00:00

Looks like someone needs to learn how to do KINO, how to create a compliance ladder, IOD signs + escalation to your home/hotel but I think this is too early for this step as long as the first three concepts you don't do it well.

kingtechllc · 2024-10-09T17:24:35+00:00

Well if she didn’t like you kissing her that was your first clue. Bro if they like you they like you. It’s really all a matter of being more of value than her. Some girls I’ve talked on tinder and they fuck me in my backseat first meet, some it takes two drinks and we fuck in the backseat, some it takes one date, some three dates. Depends on their mood and your value and their value

ignitedwolf9200 · 2024-10-09T18:43:31+00:00

This dude has to be a troll

IGetBoredSometimes23 · 2024-10-09T19:27:51+00:00

Why are you trolling this subreddit?

FirmGuitar5411 · 2024-10-09T17:09:22+00:00

What happened exactly?

CursedTaco · 2024-10-09T17:42:06+00:00

Autism, 12 year old, or Troll. The way he has a comeback response to everything makes me think its a troll.

rando755 · 2024-10-09T17:42:27+00:00

I find this post hilarious. That is exactly what I thought would happen if a guy literally does what pick up artists say to do. I know I wouldn't want some guy grabbing at me, so why would these women want it?

Jtenka · 2024-10-09T17:54:54+00:00

'Recording it with a hidden camera'

Dude... You need therapy.

jaybee_the_Kumo · 2024-10-09T17:59:58+00:00

Who gave you this advice?

aFalseSlimShady · 2024-10-09T18:00:22+00:00

Look man,

The "pros," are all self declared. There is no certifying body.

Ask yourself this: who is going onto a seduction subreddit, declaring themselves a professional pickup artist, and writing little blog posts about it?

The answer is creepy mother fuckers who want people to think they are cool. Stop taking advice from them.

grldgcapitalz2 · 2024-10-09T18:36:56+00:00

only a fool takes anything he sees here as truth

OkResponsibility2470 · 2024-10-09T18:43:00+00:00

You have no social awareness

bannedcanceled · 2024-10-09T18:43:56+00:00

Lmfao

Sherman140824 · 2024-10-09T18:46:42+00:00

At the beach I witnessed an old man approach a young model. At first she was like why is everyone on this beach weird, you don't give women space, yesterday a guy followed me home. In a short time he managed to convince her to give her a massage.

Velvettouch89 · 2024-10-09T19:10:35+00:00

Buddy, allot of the advice on here is given by people who don't know what they're talking about. I've once commented on someone's post where they stated they were making out with the girl in public and he was grabbing her ass. They finished making out and they went to their cars and he went in for the kiss and she pulled away. He didn't get a second date. I posted that he sexually assaulted her in public, and should never NEVER play grab ass in public on the first date, he escalated and didn't seal the deal and she was creeped out by it. Many people supported me and many said he did the right thing. I know from experience, you do not escalate to sex unless you are actually going to have sex, it never works in your favor. Men think that they accomplished some magic invisible plateau by making out, fingering her, touching her, etc but they don't; they just give her blue balls and make her sexually frustrated. Women are people too, not a fucking robot where you have to push all the right buttons to get her to have sex with you. They CHOOSE to have sex (unless you sexually assault them). Once you understand this, it's like the matrix; you don't have to do anything but literally enjoy the date and invite them back to your place.

My number one word of advice is: do not touch a woman until she touches you.

If you are kissing, don't play grab ass unless you're in private. Invite her back to your place and escalate to sex. But you must have sex, (unless she stops you). Don't think you're going to get a blow job and leave her as is, you've got to seal the deal.

There's more to it, but man I'm trying to be as straight forward as possible, it's so fucking easy and people make it out to be rocket science.

PM for personal coaching

HarpertFredje · 2024-10-09T19:22:05+00:00

If you're on a date and you go in for a kiss and she clearly isn't into it (she turns her head away, leans away from you etc) YOU STOP TRYING TO DO IT

Dorkuzan · 2024-10-09T19:23:06+00:00

I dont even know you but all i needed was to read some of your comments and i can tell that you are either autistic or classical case of high IQ and low EQ. I woudnt be suprised if she charged you with sexual assault / harassment - tho it wasnt your intention she woud still be in right and probably win that case

vergil_never_cry · 2024-10-09T19:56:51+00:00

Either troll or ‘tis

Trip_seize · 2024-10-09T20:04:34+00:00

Tldr: Instructions unclear...

InterestingGate7002 · 2024-10-09T20:36:49+00:00

Most likely a combination of coming on too strong and failing to gauge her interest level until it was too late. No guy who knows what he's doing with women will tell you that "escalating and being more dominant = forcing things to happen". At the end of the day the natural order of things is that the man tends to be the primary initiator because women tend to be more conditioned to respond to a man's advances. Escalation isn't a surefire way to guarantee you getting laid, it's more the case that not-escalating is more or less a surefire way to ensure that you won't get action unless you're extremely lucky.

To actually escalate, the key is to take it in steps, gauge her reaction, and go from there. If she appears to responds positively, then take it up a notch. If she does not respond positively, dial it back a notch. She might respond positively to it at a later point (which could be an hour from then, to the next date, to a month from then), or she might not at all.

I see from your other comments that when she didn't give a positive response, you doubled down and escalated even more. That's a perfect example of what not to do.

nooneshomesorry · 2024-10-09T17:39:22+00:00

OP you have some serious red flag mental takes. Some things that are not OK and ARE sexual harassment : Recording your interactions with women in secret , touching without consent first of any sort of more intimate areas (I.e inner thighs ) and then not stopping after being shown through body language and verbal communication that it was not mutual you then touched her breasts and butt. You escalated into serious sexual misconduct. That is NOT okay. Force /=/ consent. You can take initiative without force , and you can be dominant without making a woman feel uncomfortable and assaulted. But what you are describing and your “solutions” in the threads below that you are coming up with , are assault.

Ballislife1313 · 2024-10-09T17:36:18+00:00

It's a sign that she wants you bad, she wants you to escalate things even more. This is the closest you've come to victory and you shouldn't give up.

tenclowns · 2024-10-09T17:31:06+00:00

You didn't escalate you fucking moron xD You have to build up to the touching with some flirting, and see how far she will let you go. Sexy stare also shouldn't come until she plays into it more

Minute_Excitement_27 · 2024-10-09T17:41:52+00:00

Put it simple- she didnt find you physically attractive.

Difference between consent and "SA"is your looks

Title	Tried following the advice on this sub - now she’s furious and saying I was harassing her?"
Author	newrisingsun70
Upvotes	1
Comments	104
Date	October 9, 2024 5:01 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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