How do you guys deal with existential crisis?

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April 19, 2019

Lifting helps but not much.

I have been trying to find meaning in my life for a while. And I have come to realize that there isn't any. That life is purposeless. No matter what I do, no matter what I achieve my actions and my achievements are meaningless. Whether I become a saint, series killer, or amass wealth greater than Jeff Bezoz my achievements and my legacy will be forgotten along with 7 billion people just like me.

I have come to feel that even my existence is meaningless. For life I am a mere meat-sack carrying my genes. My whole existence in the grand scheme of things feels like human equivalent to what microbe is to a whale.

I know I am not a special snowflake. I have grown out of the thought that I am center of the universe, and the notion of absolute good and bad, and everything exists for a purpose.

How do guys find meaning, purpose and truth in a reality so void of it? How do stay sane in a universe that just IS?

This post is not supposed to be a pity party. These are reoccurring thoughts I have been having that I am not able come to peace with.

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Title How do you guys deal with existential crisis?
Author Fatlossbro
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Date 19 April 2019 06:21 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]Hot_Pink_Knob86 points87 points  (9 children) | Copy

Well, life has no objective meaning, the meaning to life is to attach your own meaning to it, that's where happiness is found.

I too struggle with existential problems, I suffer from a lot of dissonance. On one hand I think that life has no meaning, nothing really matters in the end, because well, we're all going to cease to exist and pretty soon, death is coming. On the other hand, I think everything matter's and everything we do affects thing's in ways we don't really understand, I often drift between these two viewpoints.

But I've come to realise, the fact that we're all going to die makes whatever this is so special. The fact that our time is limited is what makes life worth living. I find joy in being able to experience consciousness. So find ecstasy in the small moments, whether it be hanging out with friends, spending time with family, listening to music, having a glass wine, being able to to do things you love, cherish all these moments because death is around the corner, for all of us. So move in the direction of the person you want to be because life is too short for anything else.

Life is highly subjective, and this is the meaning I've attached to my life.

[–]flapjacksrbetter20 points21 points  (1 child) | Copy

Well said my guy.

How i think of it is for billions of years we have closed our eyes. Ceased to exist. No feeling. No nothing. But one fateful day our eyes are opened to a world that is beautiful. So many people and animals to interact. The places you have never been before. The experiences. Then after 8 or so decades you close your eyes and everything is gone.

Appreciate life and dont take it for granted. Improve your life so you can improve the life of others around you

[–]EvolvedVirus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed with you all. What you described is logical eternal-return. You woke up one day and started thinking; therefore, it makes sense that you may die and once again wake up and started thinking in a completely new life. It just makes logical and philosophical sense. It's called eternal return.

Attach meaning to life, create purposes for yourself and for the betterment of humanity or your country/region, work always towards mutual-beneficial relationships rather than parasitism and you will see happiness. Hard work, intelligence, creativity and building something for the world can also be a thrill.

Hell, if you're more the angry type, work towards stopping evil or the parasites. Having duties and responsibilities for yourself can make you happy.

Do not let nihilism or depression take hold (evil people will want that you are an automaton living life and just cynically whispering to people you want to watch the world burn, these people are the enemy). Work towards greater ideals and principles and your life will always be great: liberty, honor, honesty, intellectual quests, helping others, promoting individualism and perfection, building something great. When people witness these qualities in you, they will also follow you.

[–]Fatlossbro[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

On one hand I think that life has no meaning, nothing really matters in the end, because well, we're all going to cease to exist and pretty soon, death is coming. On the other hand, I think everything matter's and everything we do affects thing's in ways we don't really understand, I often drift between these two viewpoints.

I too find myself shifting between perspective of existential meaninglessness and butterfly effect. The butterfly effect is somewhat comforting because of its assurance that no matter how small a action of an action a take, even such as plucking a flower, somewhere someday it will have a unfathomable effect on someone's life. And this I think provides me with some kind meaning to existence.

But I've come to realise, the fact that we're all going to die makes whatever this is so special

I think you're right. Without the looming fear death no individual will ever engage in a behavior what motivation is for one to experience life to it's fullest? Because for him to do whatever he wants to, there is another day.

But for us mortals, to whom death is inevitable every second second we live, we are inching closer to death. So we can't afford to not cherish whatever lays in our path. I think in some ways it make death a closure or , if you will, ultimate truth of life.

One day some people came to the master and asked ‘How can you be happy in a world of such impermanence? The master held up a glass and said ’Someone gave me this glass, and I really like this glass. It holds my water admirably and it glistens in the sunlight. I touch it and it rings! One day the wind may blow it off the shelf, or my elbow may knock it from the table. And I say, ‘Of course.’ When I understand that the glass is already broken, every moment with it is precious.

I think above story perfectly sums up my my thoughts.

[–]SolarTortality1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

“Life has no objective meaning” lol brainlet central over here. What is more objective than the biological instincts and imperatives encoded into our very being that lead our lives and the lives of all those around us.

You are disoriented from meaning by the modern life. The instant gratification. Fast food. Porn. Social media. Internet addiction. The millions of people you see but never interact with, never speak to.

Objective meaning is physically hardcoded into your biology. What is more objective than the physical? It’s not a matter of opinion, it is physically there. You can rationalize it away because maybe you are a failure who can’t actualize his purpose, that’s why we call those people losers. The have objectively lost.

Those in power want you to be a nihilist purposeless consumer who will buy buy buy buy buy just to get that hit of dopamine because “life doesn’t have meaning I just want to be happy”

[–]Hot_Pink_Knob1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

I don't think I made myself clear, obviously life has a biological meaning, to procreate. This is the driving force behind all our actions. But since we're conscious beings, life is a little more complex. Its what's separates us from animal's. I'm not saying because we're conscious beings that we aren't governed by our biology and genetics.

[–]SolarTortality1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Also if you think procreation is the sole meaning derived from our biological imperatives then you aren’t listening to your subconscious. That’s obvious anyways from the fact that you think your conscious isn’t governed by biology and genetics. Your conscious is the tip of the iceberg and is governed and regulated by your subconscious which is far more vast and complex. Your subconscious is absolutely governed by your biology and genetics, your conscious is the puppet on the strings of your subconscious.

[–]Hot_Pink_Knob0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I don't disagree with any of this. My point was simply that, life has no meaning outside of our biological needs and drives.

[–]SolarTortality0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

My point is that our meaning is biologically derived from the Source itself, objectively. Our innate biological drives are the echoes from those initial latent primordial forces that control the physical behavior of all that exists, has existed, and will ever exist. They are signals from “God” himself.

[–]SolarTortality0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

“It’s what separates us from animals” egoist nonsense.

[–]BrodinsOats79 points80 points  (11 children) | Copy

Read Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl. It's his account of surviving the holocaust in Auschwitz. And if you can't tell by the title, it centers around the question you're putting forth here.

If that doesn't make your first world problems seem small and inspire you to carve out some meaning for yourself, then idk what will.

[–]idreamofkitty11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

I got the audiobook from the library. I really need to borrow it again. Great book.

[–]resnine1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just found the audiobook is on YouTube if you or anyone else is looking for it here it is:

Interesting so far... goes into existential analysis.

[–]Fatlossbro[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks for the recommendation I'll put it in my reading list.

[–]benmarvin4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Frankl was my first thought when I saw the post title. I was introduced to him by that video "meaning is a jumper that you have to knit yourself", gives a quick bite sized overview of finding your own meaning to life.

[–]1MrTheFalcon4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I can save you some time. The book exemplifies "Logotherapy" which is to say in a world where even life has no value, you choose what is valuable, and that has meaning because you choose to give it meaning. And you should give meaning to things that are within your grasp. For example, people in concentration camps who stay alive to reunite with their family often commit suicide upon discovery that their family is all dead.

I like to think of it life like running a marathon, or some other slog. If you focus on crossing the finish line twenty-five miles away, you will never make it. Focus on getting to the next tree, or next step, if you need to. To counter the existential dread, I have a routine. Sometimes I enjoy running my routine, and sometimes, I use it as a tool for survival. I just follow the routine. I give meaning to creating order out of chaos. Cleaning, and organizing, mostly.

[–]PunkSmell0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Great book! I would also recommend Camus’ The Myth of Sisyphus on the subject. I believe reading the Stoics (Marcus Aurelius, Seneca, Epictetus) also helps.

[–]BrodinsOats1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's funny. After I discovered weed and a teacher introduced me to Camus around the age of 15, I really spiraled into many years of nihilism and hedonism.

Perhaps re-reading him would be better after a decade and a half of perspective.

[–]Bruchibre-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

I don't think that "cheer up life could be worse" has never effectively helped anyone, only pushed them to shut up and keep to themselves.

[–]ultrasuperthrowaway1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s helped me

[–]BrodinsOats0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's a quite poor summation of what I wrote, or at the least what I intended to get across.

I wrote what I did because I related to OP. I've had to deal with many of my own demons, and that book is one thing of many that I found helpful.

[–]whiffofass 1 points [recovered]  (9 children) | Copy

There is a reason Alan Watts drank himself to an early grave.

I know I am not a special snowflake. I have grown out of the thought that I am center of the universe, and the notion of absolute good and bad, and everything exists for a purpose.

Why couldn't you be the centre of the universe? As far as I understand and have learned from my psychedelics use there is only one consciousness. God. Universe. You. Experiencing everything. You are everywhere. You don't have to define yourself as a microbe. You can define yourself as god or the universe itself.

[–]Fatlossbro[S] 3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

Why couldn't you be the centre of the universe?

How could I? I think saying that I am center of universe comes with a great burden of it's past. The burden which dictates that everything, up until now, has happened happened to influence or dictate the actions and thoughts of a singular individual, me.

there is only one consciousness

Your comment reminds me of a story I once read. Story of a man who upon his death discovered that every consciousness in the universe was his own. He was the women who was raped, and rapist himself. This was all a "Training" to help him ascend to his higher self.

[–]IFuckingHateAllergy2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I used to have this problem, then I read the egg by Andy Weir. It's a short story but what I basically got from it was we are basically just one consciousness experiencing itself.

Now I'm not claiming that is true, but man did that got me out of my existential crisis. You're being so certain that life has no meaning, but the reality of it all is, we dunno jack shit. And to function with the belief that there may be a meaning to it all is so much better than to function believing there isn't.

[–]resnine0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The story you are referring to is The Egg by Andy Weir.

I believe this is true, we are all one consciousness understanding itself from many different points of view. I think of consciousness like electricity where every living thing is hooked into it but has different manifestation like a lamp, tv, stove. I think separation is an illusion, all is one entity, from you to me, to the pebble and drop of water, to the fabric of the cosmos.

[–]ixyfang0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Read the original book of Genesis in Hebrew. Light came after thought. G-d thought of himself first.

[–]ixyfang1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

He drank himself to death because he was chasing Dopamine.

[–]SolarTortality6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy


Life isn’t about being happy. Chasing happiness, chasing hits of dopamine will down-regulate your neural dopamine pathways. Ironically, chasing happiness, always going for that next instant gratifying hit of dopamine will make you more depressed, miserable, and pathetic than you ever thought imaginable.

Only by subjecting yourself to sufficient discipline can you be truly free.

Life is about being fulfilled. Only in seeking fulfillment through listening to the OBJECTIVE MEANING instilled into your being, into your biology, hardcoded into your DNA, expressing itself in your subconscious biological imperatives, only then can you be content.

[–]ixyfang1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy


Excellent comment.

[–]SolarTortality-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

“You can define yourself as god or the universe itself” yeah sure if you want to lie to yourself.

[–]PhasmaFrank7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

So what you do today is completely meaningless for tomorrow? You can give meaning to it. I would recommend you not dwelling on why we exist and such, we dont know, thats part of being human

[–]RedHoodhandles8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

My rejection of religion and my search for the truth and for a life well lived led me to philosophy, to existencialism, to absurdism (I've basically read everything of Camus), to TRP and then to stoicism to somehow deal with that all.

Don't try to give your life meaning. Good and evil. Morals. It's just all man made mumbojumbo.

Focus instead on living a life that makes you happy. How do you do that, you ask? Pretty simple. We cannot flee our biology so all you have do to feel some kind of accomplishment and meaning is to ACQUIRE RESSOURCES. That's it. That's the path to happiness. Period.

What ressources you ask? Improving physically, improving mentally and improving socially or to put it in TRP terms, looks, status, money, game and knowledge.

[–]Theebenedetto5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

Fill your days with activities you enjoy. Hiking and mountain biking for example. Or fishing and hunting. Or go to eat some mushrooms in the woods.

[–]bilabrin1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Not mushrooms. You don't want to have the "life has no point" trip. Believe me.

[–]donaxi0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Cured my anxiety so I disagree there. Mushrooms taught me the exact opposite of what it taught you.

[–]bilabrin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It can go either way...sometimes it can change very quickly and unpredictivly. It all depends on who you're with and what thoughts go through your mind. I've had some great experiences too but the bad are not worth the good IMO.

[–]ixyfang11 points12 points  (5 children) | Copy


No books. Right now, going deeper into your head with someone else’s thoughts is a waste of time. You are having existential crisis because you have stopped living because you have stopped making decisions because you fear making the wrong one.

You need to get out of your head. You need to start doing those things that add value to your life and the lives of others.

Considerations: I would: 1. Get my Testosterone level checked. 2. Research Dopamine supplements e.g. Tyrosine, SAM-e, B-6 3. Find a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu school and join and attend class consistently. Lifting is good for bones. BJJ is good for life. 4. Find somewhere to volunteer my time and talents. 5. Report back here in 1 week and again 4 weeks from today. 6. Help the next person you encounter going through what you overcame.

[–]POSiX1 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Best response. Thank you.

[–]ixyfang0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thank you. 🤙

[–]resnine1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

going deeper into your head with someone else’s thoughts is a waste of time.

I actually really agree with this. Too many people recommend books/videos and their own advice. What works for one may not work for another. All you need you already have, it's deep inside you. Spending time alone just thinking is some of the best advice out there.

[–]Fatlossbro[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Find a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu school and join and attend class

I don't have any BJJ schools near me. What other martial arts would you recommend?

Thanks for the recommendation btw I'll try them out.

[–]ixyfang0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No problem. Try Judo, Submission Wrestling (really any kind of wrestling is good) or MMA.

If only striking is available then try Kali/Escrima, Okinawan Karate, Shotokan Karate, Kenpo Karate or Hapkido.

Learning how to defend yourself and those you love is excellent. How martial arts and the brotherhood of combat changes your life, is awesome.

[–]1DubbleFUPAwitCheez3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Absurdism is the answer to nihilism.

[–]theherosmyth2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’ve been having an existential crisis myself lately. I mean I’ve known for a long time that one’s life eventually ends, but sometimes the reality of it just sinks in extra deep. But if it was a choice to be made where you could decide on never existing, or coming into existence, living life in all its glory and tragedy, and then going back to ceasing to exist, well I’d rather have lived.

We’re alive now. We’re all in. I can squander my time by sitting here lamenting my inevitable death, but whether or not I do that, it won’t change the fact that I’ll die.

What I am terrified of, is not living while I’m alive. There will come a time where I might feel differently about death. I’m in my late 20’s, so the thought of dying now strikes me as horrifying. But honestly. If you’re in your 80’s or 90’s (if you make it that far), your body is starting to give up on you, you have some kids and grand kids running around, and you have taken life by the nuts, squeezed with all your power and did a little twist for good measure, maybe at that point you’ll have peace with that eternal sleep. But being the old guy who realizes painfully how much more of an epic life he could have lived, but is now too old to get after it anymore... that’s scary.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFereallyRed4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

Why does it have to mean anything?

[–]Fatlossbro[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I does not.

But without either finding answers to above mentioned questions or finding ways to deal with having no answers how am I supposed to climb my way up towards self-actualization?

[–]thrwy754790 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lofty goals grounded in reality.

Make money your God, the more you have of it, the closer you get to enlightenment.

[–]ixyfang0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Dopamine. The thing isn’t as important or relevant as its meaning.

[–]ainihon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Origin, meaning, morality and destiny.

Any belief system has to answer these components when searching out your existential quest

[–]Endorsed ContributorNightwingTRP1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Firstly, I would remind myself that I'm a human being and as such am limited in various ways. In addition, I am not the brightest man on the planet either, so having expectations to solve the meaning of life - a well known eternal question that has baffled men who make you look like a pitiful child being beaten in the boxing ring by someone like tyson - is wildly unreasonable.

So we look smaller. How does this apply to my own existence? Well, firstly since the meaning of my own life is a huge question, I would begin by giving myself time and not expecting myself to solve this quickly. Crisis tends to come from stress and that stress comes from an urge to get on with things. A worry that time is short, and yes it is. But much like a huge essay that's due in a month, time may be short but you have enough time and worrying about it will stress you and make you less productive towards that aim.

That is the key bit to come to peace with first and foremost. Acknowledging your own imperfection and forgiving yourself for it. Granting yourself the time you need to work on something as huge as this. And the time that is needed to figure out your own purpose or reason or meaning or whatever you want to call it will be measured in years, not days.

Which begs the question, what do you do in the meantime? Work to put yourself in the best possible position you can for a reasonably good life.

This does not give you an answer to your question but I believe it supplies what you need. Which is a clear set of reasoning in order to begin that search to satisfy your need for meaning. While I abhor relativism... when it comes to meaning, given that it's an emotional thing that upsets us not having it, a relativistic approach is probably best for now until men (much smarter than me) come up with something better. Work on experimenting and trying to find that meaning. Read. Lots.

Try new things. Search. Explore. Entertain ideas. This should provide a good starting point from which to explore the question of what matters to you and what might provide you with meaning? Drive? Passion? etc etc.

[–]Fatlossbro[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Does living along with this unanswered question ever get easier?

[–]Endorsed ContributorNightwingTRP1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, because you've already made peace with the fact you're not perfect and you're working towards an answer. There's nothing more that can be done.

[–]topmatrixgun1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Once I asked a friend of mine, “What's the use of this meaningless life?”

(I was a bit frustrated then.)

My friend replied, “The propose of life is to make the life given to us meaningful.”

Meaning to you, meaning to the society, meaningful to the world.

[–]Senior Contributoradam-l1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lots of comments, most miss the mark.

"Existential crisis" is not existential. It is not about existence. It is a feeling of disconnectedness from the world, i.e. disconnectedness from society. Marx would call it allienation. It is a pretty reasonable and expected reaction to a society that treats you like disposable machinery.

Friends are an integral part of the solution. A "tribe" you feel you belong in. Real human ties.

And then, a mission. But I don't think any mission will do. Once you reach the existential crisis, a mission that makes sense is one that counters the reasons that led you to that existential crisis.

[–]strongfarts0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Achieve what you need to achieve in order to sustain lifestyle where you are maximizing your fun.

For me that means a prestigious corporate career with a nice apartment and car and cash flow to do what I literally please

[–]ixyfang0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Please return to this when you grow beyond happiness and instead seek fulfillment.

[–]urja0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Read two books the first one is "Will to Power" by Frederick Nietzsche and the second "Existentialism is Humanism" by Jean Paul Sartre. Start with EIH first . You should realise that nihilism is the pretty common for a society that is orphaned of God, in the sense that God doesn't dictate the way or meaning of life in a general sense and exists more or less as a spiritual guidance counselor. We have carved due to industrial and digital revolution a more individualistic lifestyle and a one that has more choices. But nihilism is only the first step as you will realise that the onus for creating a meaning is on you. But as much as you feel you can do whatever the fuck you want, remember that we are men and how ultimately everything exists as an expression of our biological drives. All men (and women) crave one thing: Power.

[–]dtyler860 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ahhh the ole existential crisis. I had mine right after I graduated college and realized I was faced with over $100,000 in student loan debt with no job. Living your life is the only purpose of it altogether. Maybe that’s different for different people, to some parenthood is their purpose, to some like me, building things is all that matters and having fun in the process. I don’t live to drink fuck and do sensory pleasing things, I mean I do, but there’s so much enjoyment in life when you don’t take it so seriously and realize that you have to find your own mission and building on it and progressing to the end goal makes every minute worth living. I have literally the best job ever. I work for myself and my work involves travel and doing really cool shit all for myself, so much that sometimes it gets me down because when it starts to become the norm in my dream job starts to just feel like any other job I have to check my reality and literally tune out when I’m working out on a bike ride envisioning what it used to be like turn a fraction of what I own now and how hard I worked for at serving tables were delivering pizzas. Perspective in comparison can be a literal game changer.

When I’m hanging out with friends and I start to get bored or wonder why I do the things I do and if I’m not living my life to its full potential I usually start to envision what my 90-year-old self would start to think and how even a bad day now would be gladly traded for my best day as a 90-year-old man with failing health, if you living family members from my nuclear family and so many deceased friends if I even live that old.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Life has been fighting death for billions of years, passing on its ‘genes’ to the next generation. Humans are doing the same thing, but on the forefront of evolution also passing along knowledge, wisdom and power. Rumour has it that because of the accumulative efforts of evolution, we (life) will one day (millions of years from now?) permanently subdue death. “Death where is your victory? Death where is your sting?” I like to think I’m contributing to that vast effort.

[–]Ledoborec0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Family, it might be as simple as this...

[–]launganik0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

I am on a very similar page as you. Nothing really motivates me. I don't experience emotions like happiness, anxiety, sadness, envy for more than a moment. I do feel envy a little stronger/longer. Nothing lasts though. As a result, I do not believe I have a strong desire, except sexual desire - where I don't believe I have a choice. I've also been reading about free will (the lack of it). I haven't figured out the meaning of life.

What might be a good strategy at this point is the subtraction approach. What can you eliminate from your life right now? The other day this thought crossed my mind - my life had been like a slate full of social programming, goals, motivations, desires, culture, etc. They are being erased one by one from this slate. Organically, without trying. The slate pretty clean if not blank at this point. Going forward, I don't know if I'll fill the slate with something new.

It is True that on a long enough timescale, nothing really matters. I do not think I have anything else to add to my comment. I don't think my comment solves you of your anxious state, maybe it helps you take a step towards accepting it.

[–]ixyfang1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Research Dopamine. Your receptors are probably fried.

[–]launganik0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

'fried' as in don't respond?

[–]ixyfang0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Poor choice of words but essentially, yes.

When over-stimulated, the brain recognizes too much Dopamine circulating and decreases the number of receptor sites also the precursors for Dopamine production are expended and must be replenished through diet (L-Tyrosine).

It’s all about Dopamine:

simple primer on Dopamine

Dopamine and the smartphone feedback loop

Dopamine and Depression

[–]_praisekek0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I don’t have any good advice on how you can find meaning in your life (I’m in a similar situation), but what I can say is having a nihilistic view on life is not helping you. You have to find a way to move past nihilism. Try looking into stoicism, or some other philosophy that will help you live your life better. Giving up isn’t the answer, keep searching, keep learning, you’ll figure it out.

[–]mxrtenxx0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Experiencing life to its fullest (or atleast more than i'm used to) did that for me. Go try new things, find people to connect with etc.

[–]Ixrxxni 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy

In The Myth of Sisyphus by Albert Camus he explained how Sisyphus is doomed to roll a boulder uphill for eternity. It is a meaningless activity and he equates this to human existence. Human existence is an absurd and meaningless thing. How to overcome this is by becoming an absurd hero, one who embraces the absurdity of life and lives despite being meaningless. Just enjoy life and do what you want to do. About your legacy being forgotten, if you really care about that you should look into transhumanism. Transhumanism is all about becoming the next stage in evolution. Part of it is extending human life with science and technology. If you have a high IQ you could go into science or technology field to contribute to transhumanist causes.

[–]ixyfang-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy

And help destroy most of humanity.

[–]Ixrxxni 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy


[–]ixyfang-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Transhumanism is part of the breakaway civilization envisioned by Huxley among others. The tech is a ruse - an empty promise to lure the greedy into compliance. Very few will reap any benefit. Most will die. The few that live will be slaves until replaced by silicon-based life-forms. After all (negative) probabilities are eliminated, the AI god will “keep humans in human zoo.” That is a direct quote from the only known AI on Earth.

[–]Ixrxxni 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Paranoia. Transhumanism is to increase the quality of life. Also, with the AI most likely we are going synthesize and merge with it. Even if a lot of people die, I see no problem with a superior life-form taking place. That's the natural order.

[–]ixyfang0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thank you for your honest response. I agree it might appear to be paranoid., but...

there is little difference between

‘Enter this digitizer and have your mind uploaded while your body is destroyed’ and

‘Drink this Kool-Aid and awaken in paradise’. They both involve death and and leap of faith.

The merging will be staged: 1. Internet of things and augmented reality. 2. Internet of things and aggressive remote control - think Borg on a global scale - search for patents under Richard C Walker. 3. Digitizing ceremonies (Logan’s Run) where the early adopters/influencers are the first to be uploaded (killed) and IF they actually exist in VR then they are subject to torture and suffering beyond imagination - see Black Mirror episode Black Museum.

I sincerely appreciate your honest response. I just don’t want to be killed, converted to a Borg or put into the “human zoo”.

[–]soothslayer2k0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The purpose of life is death, enjoy the ride.

[–]NenJ0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Have you ever read a book like "A New Earth" or "The power of now" by Eckhart Tolle?

It's a sort of westernized version of zen buddhism that stands on the following idea:

"Living in the present moment is the only way to be peaceful. The incessant stream of thoughts is what stops you from being in the present moment and being in your default state of peacefulness."

[–]GucciGangBucks0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Join the military. Your actions will no longer me meaningless.

[–]0io-0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You might try living an organized religious life for a while and see if you like it. Orthodox Judaism or Mormon or Buddhist or Amish or Hindu... Pick one that interests you and actually go to the community and actively participate. With that and lifting you should have the spiritual and physical boxes checked off. You're probably too intellectual and over-thinking things. Even if it's not for you, it might snap you out of the rut that you've been in and broaden your horizons a little bit.

Travel can be pretty good too. Can you get a job on the other side of the world doing something new? Go help kids in an orphanage in Brazil for a while or something. Change of scene can do wonders.

[–]DeborahBinLaden0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You’re the centre of your own universe. Sounds like you’re living too much in the future, looking for a purpose there. There is no magical purpose lurking in the future, just the prospect of creating your own with constant hard work. Of course you’re going to be depressed if you’re always speculating over the final product (there isn’t one). Short term goals, mate.

I had a similar problem, you need a bit of healthy ego, you can’t get rid of it entirely. Embrace your selfishness. Appreciate the present more.

[–]1walawalawa0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

This is a situation in your own head. Breaking out of this means setting little goals and achieving them. It could be as simple as waking up at 6:30am every morning.

My life has meaning because it has structure.

After 30 years of working I basically got fired 6 months ago because of politics, costs, crap etc whatever. Within 30 minutes of that "talk" with my so-called "boss" I reached out to two friends who had been in a similar situation. One offered to hire me, the other offered to help me set up my own business. Within a week i'd set up my own business.

I spent the next 4 months of my notice period building contacts, brands, talking to people and planning projects.

Long story short I'm now working less, making the same money, happier and working on my own projects.

I dj, I'm entering a dance contest, I'm organizing a visiting artist.

The existential crisis was in my head. When I broke out of that downward "what's it all mean?" shit I was able to do things beyond my own expectation.
When I look back on my job I realize it was whatever I wanted it to be and I didn't really need that validation from the "tribe" of elders in my company to know what I was doing was important.

[–]Fatlossbro[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

This is a situation in your own head. Breaking out of this means setting little goals and achieving them.

I understand that I must put end to this thought. But I think that ending this thought without answering it properly is just gonna end up with it haunting me for life.

[–]1walawalawa0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Or you can just keep debating it hoping to find an answer as a way of avoiding moving forward.

[–]v3ngi[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The only advice I can really give is, that there is no meaning, you make the meaning. You set a goal and achieve it. You must have some attachment to something, some kind of hobby? Prefect it and keep on perfecting it.

[–]SolarTortality0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hypocrite that you are, for you trust the chemicals in your brain to tell you that they are chemicals. All knowledge is based on that which cannot be proven. Will you fight or will you perish like a dog?

[–]SolarTortality0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Life’s not about being happy retard. The paradox is if you always go through life trying to be happy then you never will. Life is about being fulfilled. Fulfilled in your biological purpose, your biological imperatives that are encoded into your DNA. It’s more than just fucking bitches. Read Heidegger, Kierkegaard, and Nietzsche if you really want to gain some perspective. Keep being a nihilist faggot if you want to keep being a philosophically bluepilled pussy who has been mentally cucked by the elites into a lifeless purposeless consumer to further their meaningful and fulfilled lives.

[–]WiredT0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

How old are you? This is important for my answer.

[–]cptkong0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Life is the greatest sandbox games that you are playing. Find your own objectives and works toward it. That's how I look at it.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Guys interested in this topic may find the below helpful:

End Game or Handling Life on Your Own Terms

-Take a Deep Breath and Make it Count.

[–]Theguygotgame7770 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Find meaning through the love and compassion of Christ. He does exist, and CAN be proven by reason- just read the writings of C.S Lewis, and I'm fairly certain you'll be convinced. There's no better motivator to be a better man than trying to emulate Jesus.

[–]bilabrin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Zoom in.

You can always zoom out to make your lifespan seem insignificant. Zoom in. Worry about the meaning of your day or week. It's all about framing. Worry not about that which you cannot control.

[–]justdontfindme0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I live life because I like doing things that make me happy, happiness feels good, it gives pleasure and makes you more prone to looking forward to the next day. Everything you said is true, you (and all of us) are going to eventually die, and a couple of years later completely forgotten by the universe, but since we're here, let's make use of our life and do things that makes us happy.

[–]iamthespectator0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

One thing I'm seeing in these comments is people getting hung up on the idea of reaching happiness. That shouldn't be your ultimate goal. Why? Because it's impossible and unhealthy to be permanently happy. Happiness is fleeting.

What you should strive for is to be content. At peace. To be content is to appreciate every moment that you're alive. It's like a lesser form of happiness that is always present. How do you reach it? I'd suggest starting with Stoicism. That plus meditation has literally changed my life.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you're so nihilistic why don't you end your life?

[–]Praecipuus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The mindset you've just described seems pretty liberating to me.

Mindset, that's where your mental health is at. Purpose should be but a game you play whenever you feel like it.

[–]mleko690 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I have come to feel that even my existence is meaningless. For I am a mere meat-sack carrying my genes.

Listen, this applies to every human being on this planet. Fundamentally we're nothing more than biological machines that have 2 basic goals to achieve: survive and reproduce.

But thanks to evolutionary luck we, as a species, attained something unique: dualistic nature. We're driven by both instincts and reason, and it usually results in internal conflict. Your rational self may have different desires than your instinctual self, eg. You may want a family and a monogamous relationship, but your body automatically wants to impregnate as many women as possible.

Once you grasp this, finding a way to live a fulfilling human life becomes easier. Because it basically is to achieve greatness in both physical and intellectual matters. Satisfy both of your instincts and reason, train in gym to become strong, to have well-functioning body, to produce more testosterone and balance hormones in general and study in the library to fulfill your hunger for knowledge and find intellectual foundations to have new ideas and improve your life.

One of the people who lived the most "human" human life was IMO Alexandre The Great. He was not only a great, strong warrior, but also an intellectual and great tactician. He conquered half of the world, but also founded the Library of Alexandria, the greatest scientific centre of ancient times.

Let's stay with example of Alexandre for a moment. What happens when you only develop one side of your nature? If you lived in the times of Alexandre the Great and focused only on your physicality, you would probably have ended as a soldier who fought and died for him. If you focused only on your intellect, you would probably have ended as an engineer who developed stuff for Alexandre's army.

When you're not fulfilling your nature fully, you're on the way to become a tool.

Sure, life seems to have no meaning besides preservation of itself, continuity of the never ending cycle of birth and death. But, thanks to your reason YOU CAN FIND A MEANING FOR IT. See what happened when you haven't tried to do it - you ended in shitty-ass nihilism for pathetic faggot bitches. Fuck that noise bro.

Your rational self has to find a life purpose/meaning so that it could direct your instinctual self towards it.

And the inevitability of death? Who the fuck cares, quoting Epikurus:

Death does not concern us, because as long as we exist, death is not here. And when it does come, we no longer exist.

How to deal with existential crisis? Stop overthinking shit you have no impact on.

Read "The Fountainhead" by Ayn Rand, continue hitting the gym, study science/art/philosophy, find something you could have a great impact on. The choice is easy: you can either light the torch of life, or disappear in the void of nothingness.

[–]FANAT1CAL_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Try helping others. I find that I feel like I have purpose when I'm doing that. If you constantly live for yourself, you'll always adjust to whatever comfort you have and start feeling unhappy.

[–]norcalguy5100 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Life is just a journey man, not a destination. Just enjoy the ride. Better to accept it for what it is and be happy than fight it and be miserable 👍

[–]WarlaxZ0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You're placing to much care on the everything else. Think about yourself, what can you do today that will push you out of your comfort zone and be amazing. Do something fun. Try something wonderful. Fuck the big shit, think about you

[–]maljo240 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Get involved. Join a club, organization, sport, stay busy, volunteer, learn a foreign language, join the Peace Corps. Make your life rich and full and wonderful.

[–]Frozenlime0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Let enjoying life be your meaning

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I'm 22yo and I live the same shit here. I read about that in philosophical manner, I persuit knowledge and try to understand God and life. It helps me but isn't enough.

[–]ixyfang0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Because you are still in your head. My fav theory of psych/mind is MindOS 2.0. My fav therapy is BJJ.

[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

You have stmbled upon the reason atheism doesn't work. If man has no higher purpose beyond chasing dopamine, then what meaning is there? You might as well become a nihilist and engage in hedonism, although that won't make you happy.

Here's an experiment.

Think the phrase, "everything happens for a reason." You may think of a goofy yet cheerful Christian. But if you can put that aside, for a second, imagine actually believing that. How would you react to setbacks? How would your ability to cope with life be affected?

How do stay sane in a universe that just IS?

I truly believe that it's my duty to pursue the maximum amount of good I can do. I don't care if that belief is true or not, I care if it's useful. And it is.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You have stmbled upon the reason atheism doesn't work. If man has no higher purpose beyond chasing dopamine, then what meaning is there? You might as well become a nihilist and engage in hedonism, although that won't make you happy.

This is beyond stupid. You don't need to believe in an afterlife to accept that you should improve both yourself and the general welfare of society in this life.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Rediculius. Atheism isn't about thought games. It's about truth. No different than gravity.

It doesn't matter if it hurts or helps your poor philosophical monkey brain make sense of it's existence. The truth is still the same. Gravity exists, god doesn't.

[–]ixyfang0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That is your truth. Some people think gravity is God’s love for the universe - a force against entropy.

[–]Matthewbim110 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Your life is your legacy.

[–]ixyfang1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you seek his monument - look around you...

[–]lmaoibtu-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Try Islam. It’s completely in line with rp principles

[–]noPTSDformePlease 1 points [recovered]  (7 children) | Copy

Prayer and JESUS.

not even a joke. Religion is a human institution about this very subject. If you really start reading about why Jesus did what he did and actually learn the context of his life, your existential fears will evaporate.

He is s good role model to follow if you want meaning in your life.

[–]poopdeck3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

This. Religion provided a way for the masses to have a moral compass, hope, and a community. It kept people from having these existential crises, because many humans can't self-actualize.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

No, it was a way to keep order by instilling fear that if the masses didn't behave in a certain way during this life, there would be punishment in the next life. And I say this as an atheist that generally subscribes to Judeo-Christian morality.

[–]poopdeck0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Christianity bolstered western civilization to what it is today. You can go live in a nice bamboo / mud hut since muh controlled masses fear

[–]Project_Zero_Betas2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Christianity bolstered western civilization to what it is today.

I generally agree. But this isn't immediately Post-renaissance, we have our developed reasoning faculties.

You can go live in a nice bamboo / mud hut since muh controlled masses fear

LOL Way to miss the context of my historical observation.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

What did Jesus do? He didn't fulfill the Messianic prophecies.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This won’t be well received on here. But honestly I’ve been having the same thoughts as OP and it’s very confrontational as many of you would know. The bible as a book is actually incredibly red pilled. There are a lot of churches that water it down because it isn’t PC.

My point is that when I read the bible and pray - it helps massively with such thoughts OP is describing. You are more than in your right to say it’s made up etc but that doesn’t matter to me. Ultimately it helps with such feelings. You guys would be surprised.

[–]Haki_User-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Everyone's kick is different. But for me I find meaning in love & curiosity. Like I am always driven to learn some more, improve things, make them better, or just know things that I didn't know before, explore. Also whenever I'm in love with a person where we get each other and look out for each other. Well, that gives my life a whole lot of meaning.

EDIT: I wanted to add. I'm one of the few who take TRP merely as a sexual strategy. Yes AWALT, Yes hypergamy, yes all that. But nonetheless there is a human in every woman capable of communicating and thinking and sharing love and a life with. TRP helps me in this aspect so I understand the biological programming of women, once you know how to deal with that with TRP knowledge, you unlock what could be your partner.

And to each his own, a life based on one night stands only further enhances lack of meaning in life. Check your facts. Rollo Tomassi one of the most prominent TRP faces is married for over 20 years.

[–]ixyfang1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

TRP helps one understand why you can’t expect a cat (female) to behave like a dog (male). Manage expectations and eliminate disappointment.

[–]goblinboglin-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

All is mind.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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