Gf “catching up” with old ldr that ghosted her

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May 23, 2019

So I saw this messages on my gfs phone last night, I’ll just let you guys read it and I’d really appreciate any advice on how to handle this situation.

We’re going to Disney next week but nowhere she mentioned me, she only mentioned her nieces and family...

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Title Gf “catching up” with old ldr that ghosted her
Author skywalkerlou
Upvotes 234
Comments 240
Date 23 May 2019 11:42 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]Modbsutansalt[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (13 children) | Copy

  1. This is classic alpha widow behavior.
  2. You are witnessing branch swinging in action.
  3. The secrecy of her deleting the text thread says it all. If this were just her chatting with an old friend/orbiter who's coming to town and you were all going to catch up, then there'd be no need to hide it from you.
  4. The secrecy is multifaceted. Notice she never mentioned YOU to him? If a woman doesn't want to fuck a guy she'll tell him she has a boyfriend even if she doesn't. If a woman does want to fuck a guy, she'll take steps to make sure he never finds out about her bf/husband. You just found yourself in the latter example.

[–]Hot_Pink_Knob400 points401 points  (69 children) | Copy

Bruh break up with her right now. She has no desire to fuck you anymore. Seriously just block her and disappear.

[–][deleted] 222 points223 points  (3 children) | Copy

100% do this NOW OP.

A year or two from now you get a notification on your phone...

"so you unfollow? it's fine i guess"

[–]Elvis_Death8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]wheresMYsteakAt3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]Elvis_Death36 points37 points  (4 children) | Copy


do not be a sperg.

use the information to your advantage. you know she's slipping so...

you emotionally detach and you fuck her in beast mode --leaving bruises--until she leaves.

tease her using subtle innuendo. FUCK HER MIND---Player.

when she comes back you know she's nothing but a hole. use her god given talents to YOUR advantage.

[–]ethreax 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

If you have to break up do it while fucking her just before she is to cum you stop

[–]Ill_mumble_that14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bf: "I've decided we should have a 3some. Know anybody who would be interested?"

Gf: "my old LDR guy coming to town"

BF: "does he look like a chick and take it up the ass? If so I'm game. Otherwise I'm bringing a girl over tonight, dont worry she is bi and will please both of us."

Regardless of what she says next, it's a win for you. She either goes through with it or you get out of a relationship with a stank hoe.

[–]skywalkerlou 1 points [recovered]  (45 children) | Copy

The thing is we still fuck like normal and she treats me “good” so I don’t understand what’s going on

[–]666Evo234 points235 points  (5 children) | Copy

What's going on is she's gonna fuck the ex.

If you're cool with that, keep up with the normal fucking and "good" treatment.

[–]Elvis_Death34 points35 points  (4 children) | Copy

the ex is a lame assed fag. if that's what the bitch gets hot for......let her fucking go man

the texts were pathetic

[–]Howdoiusesync13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

she really is. Looks like she wants validation. Since she sent pics.

[–]urbancore4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

exactly what I thought. I couldn't figure out who the chic was.....

[–]PleezSitOnMyFace 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Hella hearts and validating

[–]Elvis_Death0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah well he's just trying to get his needs met

[–]TheDreadnought1120 points121 points  (16 children) | Copy

Of course she still fucks you and treats you well, she doesn't want to lose the branch she's in rn without having a firm grasp on the one she's actually interested

If she fails to secure him (which it doesn't mean she'll fail to fuck him), she might even fuck/treat you better than normally, mostly because of guilt

Come on kid, it doesn't get any clearer than this. Ghost her ass

[–]ac71412 points13 points  (13 children) | Copy

Sometimes I wonder if OP’s own SMV makes it convenient to keep the relationship status quo going as long as he doesn’t invest more into it. Possibly even systematically reducing interest until the break up becomes a non-factor to him. Just an angle that comes to mind in the case when the guy doesn’t have multiple plates at the ready and the girl insists on maximizing her hypergamy.

He doesn’t even have to mention the texts. Just loosely allude to the possibility of them and his interest in doing similarly. Something on that level. Then break it up without all the dramatics and feeling good.

[–]Bedtimeshine4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

As a 36 year old man who used to just flip out of dump her . Now I would just pull back, keep it casual, I wouldn’t go on the trip and I’d do my own thing and meet other women and let her do as she pleases.

[–]Hambone_Malone1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

30+ year olds that have a few multi-year relationships under our belts have this game down. We have the luxury to step back and let shit go that our younger counterparts don't. Wisdom and experience are a nice thing.

[–]Elvis_Death4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

yes, this is better but you have to seize power when the opportunity presents. don't be a skulking chump. FUCK THAT BITCH"S MIND. tease her with innuendo. USE HER BODY as it is meant to be used. OP must use her body like a fuck machine and disabuse her feable mind of any connivance.

the so-called ex is a fag. did anyone read those weak ass texts? they are pathetic.

if that bitch wants that fag....let him have her. but not before OP FUCKS HER IN BEAST MODE before the trip. slap her, bite her, leave marks and bruises. spit in her face while fucking. face fuck her on her knees. cum in her throat. make her gag on your cock. her eyes will tear up. UNGH!

Seize power when you can.

she is a filthy whore, treat her as such. withdraw your emotions. when she returns she's nothing but a hole to you / OP

[–]ac7146 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

Cheese and rice. It’s not that you’re necessarily wrong but rather that you’re not all taking the full situation into account. He’s not ready to use the girl up sexually and dispose of her like that.

The guy is on level three of the main quest and you’re talking about some optional side quest after you’ve beaten the game.

Stuff like this is what ends up on subs that mock TRP.

[–]TimelessNY0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The guy is on level three of the main quest and you’re talking about some optional side quest after you’ve beaten the game.

i'm dead. best analogy of all time.

[–]Elvis_Death0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

well sir i disagree. as far as i am concerned i have taken the "full situation" more into "account" than the other 100 commenters who are too short sighted to perceive an opportunity for growth. and holding FRAME is not caring that a billion spergy tards from reddit "mock" TRP. fuck them and fuck OP's girl. yes i am offering him a quest that will develop his power and his frame moreso than running away when a rare opportunity is dropped in his lap.

[–]Platos_slow_brother2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Uh, okay.

So, what kind of porn are *you* watching these days....? /s

[–]jim15641 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

I'm in a similar situation, thinking about doing the same instead of breaking up "cold turkey", but sometimes it gives me an urge to do it right now.

[–]ac71410 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy

Just milk it for what it is and send unclear signals you’re looking for something else with whoever you currently know. The more she suspects you have options the more she’ll hesitate to move on.

It’s like job hunting where they prefer when you’re already employed because you’ve been vetted as desirable and not desperate.

Ultimately it comes down to what kind of person you are, what you want, and what your ‘reach’ is. If you actually had someone in mind or the ability to get something similar or better then there’d be no reason to hesitate.

Just some thoughts from a rando.

[–]jim15641 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

My SMV is below average(although hers are too), and I have no friends. So yeah, I know it will hurt since my current situation is pretty bluepilled, no abundance mentality at all.

[–]ac7148 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

That’s fine too! It’s not always about where you are now but overall progress.

You could drop it now to focus on improving your health, looks, work, social life, work, school , hobbies, etc.

You’ll meet new people and only lose a dead end relationship at worst. It frees you up to move up in other areas. Just don’t become complacent or lose faith in yourself to have the ability to morph into who you want to be. That would be worse than staying where you are now.

However, you could also enjoy what you have and leverage it into a step up.

Whatever, I don’t know your life and there’s only so much a buzzed guy can say before it’s rambling. It’s important to do something when you know you should. That’s the part of life you feel the most alive and in control even though you barely know what you are doing.

[–]Howdoiusesync2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You should have more respect for yourself mate. Just let her go.

[–]Walkerstain0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm wondering, if it was the other way around, like OP is the one she's trying to have a firm grasp on. Does this mean he should ghost her?

[–]Elvis_Death-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

all that you say is correct except the last 3 words.

do not ghost. take advantage.

you know she's slipping therefore you now go beast mode.

fuck her rough--more than ever---slap her face----spit in her mouth while you are railing her.

this is your invitation to TREAT HER LIKE A WHORE----that's what she is. she will love you for it.


this is fun and games. you have the ace up your sleeve. treat her like the filthy bitch that she is.

don't ghost. TAKE POWER.


[–]Modbsutansalt[M] 27 points28 points  (3 children) | Copy

It's called cover sex. It's part and parcel of branch swinging. She's doing this to keep up the veil of secrecy and have a hand on the current branch (you) before getting a solid grip on the next brach (his dick).

Then suddenly she stops being all that interested and then like a light switch she is done with you leaving you wondering wtf just happened and how could she move on that fast.

[–]Elvis_Death2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

yes. i am unclear about what the fxxk is going on in this thread. some of these guys are missing the point. it is NOT ABOUT GHOSTING. it is about SEIZING POWER.

we constantly talk about physical culture and building a strong body and making GAINZ in the gym.

this is about making psychological and emotional GAINZ.

OP must take action to protect his emotional well being. withdraw emotional connection now.

however; the universe/god/mother nature is giving OP a grand opportunity to TAKE POWER and treat the bitch how she needs to be treated.

OP can now finally become a MAN. without emotion dominate that bitch and use her body like nature built her to be used. bites, bruises, spanks, spit, choke, command her on to her knees, face fuck her until she gags, pull her hair, slap her face. OP will blow her feeble little mind.

USE HER LIKE A WHORE (she is one and will love you for it)

send her on her disney trip to meet the faggy EX. you think that poonjob ex boy is gonna fuck her like

the filth that she is? her little bitch brain will be REELING after OP takes command. the EX will be seen as flacid and flatuent.

but fuck her. too late. bitch hiding and deleting shit? she is now NOTHING but a HOLE.

treat her like a WHORE and she will fall deeply into OP's Thrall.

[–]Nis_law4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

and then ghost.

[–]tefllifestyle-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Amen XD

[–]Hot_Pink_Knob53 points54 points  (1 child) | Copy

Let me rephrase that, she's clearly unhappy with the relationship. And she's going to find someone else pretty soon. Those text messages should be evidence of that. Girl's who are into their guy don't entertain other men, and also the fact that she didn't even bring you up...what more evidence do you need. Get out of there.

[–]ac7143 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

To piggy back. Just because a girl is unhappy with a relationship doesn’t necessarily mean things are bad. It’s just that things won’t get better and will deteriore given enough time unless something changes like OP’s SMV relative to her options.

[–]Slut_Slayer900016 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]Jabbermouth11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Break up with this botch and ghost her immediately. Post an update after you’ve ended as well.

[–]mushroom_overlord8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Some people around here are a little confused how this play works. She's gonna act like nothing is wrong for a while, and not give you a purposeful indication. This is during the phase where she is feeling out the situation and seeing if the other guy is actually going to commit. This period also helps to see if the other guy is man enough, but if he is tempting her he is probably an upgrade. In truth, she is acting like nothing is wrong because everything is going properly for her.

This then goes one of two ways, really. The first is that she jumps to the other guy while hamstering the reasons why; to you, she tells the story of not really being happy and gives an excuse that doesn't implicate another guy, and to him she is going to have to go with an excuse along the lines of you being abusive or distant, or the two of you growing apart.

The other is that her plans fall through with the other guy. It might happen before she tells you anything. Or, she might make moves to break up, see the other guy and find that something is off, then run back to you. Since she doesn't think you saw the messages, this is also according to plan.

Either way, you have all the information you need. She is clearly getting back in touch with a guy she hasn't gotten over, and going to be his "someone to talk to/laugh with" which I think is going to get a little more risque than that. She hasn't been honest with you and isn't mentioning to him that you even exist. Get your ass out of there.

[–]Morpheus_TNTB4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

You enjoy Tom-cuckory? If so, press the fuck on skippy!

[–]Project_Zero_Betas2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

LMFAO Really? She's setting herself up to get back with her ex.

[–]Terdmuffin4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

You should look up on the lightswitch effect.

[–]iloveyoudeft2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

actions speak louder than words. are you okay with having your gf fuck other guys behind your back? you're in too deep ABORT ABORT

[–]perc102 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I would rather fall face first in a pile of human shit in front of everyone i respect than to stay with a woman who talks to her ex or any other man like this while with me. Have some self respect and say " fuck this, fuck you im out "

[–]Platos_slow_brother1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don’t understand what’s going on


[–]RevolutionaryPea70 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah. But she doesn't like to be fucked like normal any more.

[–]27billion0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Dear, dear, dear

[–]Gobraves440 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

How long were the ex and her together? Was it a long term thing or just a fling?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


You're just happy to be getting laid. She's probably using 10% of her ability on you.

[–]Elvis_Death-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

u/skywalkerlou please see my comments before you blow a GOLDEN OPPORTUNITy

[–]SalporinRP109 points110 points  (7 children) | Copy

Yeah bro this is a breakup easily. If she hasn't fucked him already she's probably planning to. And even if she isn't no gf of mine is gonna disrespect me by talking to her ex like that fuck that.

I've been there before dude it sucks but just rip the band-aid off and dump her ass.

[–]Carleather42 points43 points  (1 child) | Copy

If she hasn't fucked him already she's probably planning to.

At the very minimum it's crossed her mind.

[–]ImNotSue12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Tangential discussion: Wouldn't it not cross her mind overtly, but instead would be a possibility she by choice does overtly allow to exist / doesn't overtly shut down. In other words, she's always got to play innocent to dodge cognitive dissonance. She has to have it 'just happen to her, she didn't plan on it'. That doesn't come without some emotional self-deception. It crosses the lizard-brain so to speak, and it's her AWALT-choice to facilitate that branch swing, and OP's to permit someone who does that in his life or not.

Again, tangential nitpicking for accuracy. :p

[–]Project_Zero_Betas4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

If she hasn't fucked him already she's probably planning to.

Or she's going to decide after OP spends some vacation time with her family whether or not she wants to get back with her ex.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

Some shit tests are coming for sure on that trip.

[–]Ill_mumble_that0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Now that he knows about those texts the only shit tests OP should be going through are the "but I poop from there" kind.

Yes I am saying make her do anal or dump her while with her family. Also, if you dump her do it classy and just ghost. No drama. No words. Just disappear. Don't even give her a hint about it. Just simply separate and don't communicate again. She won't even know what is going on. Block her number if she blows up your phone. Doing it while she is with her family will cause her to ask them if they've heard from you etc. Ghost them too. So everyone will know and be asking about it and there will be nothing bad for her to say about you, they may even help her try to find you. If you run into someone, just say "oh we broke up, shes a great girl but shes not the one for me" This will alpha widow the fuck out of her.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

She's about to branchswing (or thinking about it), zero chance of that happening.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

And in front of the family, making them particularly uncomfortable.

[–]Timely4ct162 points163 points  (6 children) | Copy

Is that her sending pics? To another guy? Man you deserve better than this. Tell her you want to end things and move on. Don’t tell her you checked her phone.

[–]Enlightened_Chimp75 points76 points  (0 children) | Copy

The emotional side of your brain will try and convince you its no big deal OP. Don't listen to your pussy ass emotional brain, listen to your rational brain/gut instinct and GTFO. You know deep down what needs to be done.

[–]xavine49 points50 points  (3 children) | Copy

She's even checking up on whether he follows her or not...and sending hearts and pictures and all this shit, and OP still thinks it's all good because they have sex. I genuinely envy being that naive. He'll be back here in a few weeks asking where it all went wrong. I'm secondhand embarrassed for OP.

[–]BigDickEnergy12324 points25 points  (2 children) | Copy

Imagine being that fucking stupid. Sending pictures. Hearts. Obvious flirting before. Then deleting the conversation.

"But we have good sex"

Like what dude. Sex isn't gonna save you from that shit show. And even if she's not cheating, she's obviously attention whoring towards other men. Specifically her ex.

Grow a god damn backbone my dude.

I even give the redpill shit for automatically assuming someone's cheating, but this is blatant disrespect dude.

[–]xavine6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Deleting the conversation is a huge red flag in itself. And she's going on a trip with him (that he's likely paying for) and doesn't even bother to mention him. Just her and her one else. By doing this she's making herself open and available to him. "No I'm not with any man, in case you have a change of heart and wanna take me back"

I can't imagine why my girl would want to hide that she's with me to her ex-boyfriend...that she exchanges several pictures with and then deletes the thread...the sex is good though so all is well.

[–]Gr33d3ater2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’m willing to bet he has a penis too. I bet it works just as well.

Sex is nothing to women when they want the idea of another man.

[–]biezpiens2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

exactly. op is getting cucked

[–]PaddyI318780 points81 points  (9 children) | Copy

I am deeply sorry that this is happening to you. You’ve called her your “GF” so I assume you’re pretty invested in her, so this has got to hurt.

I know you’ve read red pill stuff and are already familiar with its philosophies... but this is your actual red pill moment right now. This is where you see the depravity that women - even ones you’re close to - are capable of. Welcome to the brotherhood.

Respect yourself enough to get out. I know want to convince yourself that this is no big deal, or that you can fix this. You can’t. She has no legitimate reason to send pics of herself to a past lover. She has no legitimate reason to hide her relationship with you from a past lover. And she has no legitimate reason to accept heart emojis and flattery from a past lover without correcting him. You know what this is.

Get out. I’d like to say you’ll be happier for it, but I can’t promise you that. One thing I can promise you, though, is this - if you stay, this will get worse and worse. She’ll be more and more brazen, and you’ll be more and more humiliated until it erodes your self-respect and puts you in a horribly unhealthy place.

One more thing. A lot of folks are saying you shouldn’t tell her you read her messages. Tell her whatever you damn well please. It doesn’t matter at this point.

Respect yourself. Do not tolerate this behavior.

[–]strongfarts8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Most adult reply in this thread, however I am afraid OP doesn’t seem to have what it takes to go through it. If this would be one moment when all the Red Pill stuff can actually make a difference in your life, this is it.

He will learn eventually

[–]StopGaming12341 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Take it from someone who was in that situation too.

I had all these red flags around me and yet justified it with her and me still having sex.

The longer you drag this shit with you, the harder it will be at the end. The trust is broken, it's done. It's never gonna be like it was before without you having paranoia at the slightest suspiscion. The ending of this relationship is inevitable. It's up to you how much longer you want to suffer.

[–]RedSkeller139 points140 points  (3 children) | Copy

Dump her ass, don't take her on vacation, never speak to her again.

[–]oldschooltx47 points48 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hell yeah. Bitch definitely don’t deserve no Disney

[–]Narcissist45611 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

He needs to fuck her up the ass, no lube one last time then ghost her .

[–]wheresMYsteakAt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

(whole sub chants in unison) *while excusing yourself to the bathroom. Out the window. While leaving the water running"

[–]asorals53 points54 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'd be dumping the fuck out of her with no explanation.

[–]Drazicc8597 points98 points  (0 children) | Copy

Monkey branch - next it

[–]izaacibanez9743 points44 points  (0 children) | Copy

Buddy, drop her ass with no explanation. Don’t tell her you read her messages, and don’t tell her the reason. Keep it simple and say it’s not working out. This woman is absolutely looking to cheat and your self worth should demand more from a partner than just accepting that. Cut your losses and you’ll be fine.

[–]sircomeseyesd30 points31 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (1 child) | Copy

Ghost her like he did

She's not in your frame.

find some plates, start spinning

[–]BusterVadge2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

There's a reason that the ex ghosted her for certain. I hope that OP can see this and does the same.

[–]misls41 points42 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’d really appreciate any advice on how to handle this situation.

If you really need advice on this, no one can help you.

[–]BiscottiGeneral19 points20 points  (2 children) | Copy

Bro she’s already emotionally cheating on you with a guy who uses the shy monkey emoji. This is as low as it gets.

[–]urliod1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]HighTesticles0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

shy monkey emoji

My sides

[–]Irtotallynotrobot17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah. You know the answer.

[–]KoolAidMan798038 points39 points  (7 children) | Copy

The minute you checked her phone you knew your relationship had a problem. Now youre on here looking for someone to validate you that “its not that bad” or shes “just seeking validation”. You are a fucking pussy. Period. End of discussion. You wanna play red pill man on Reddit but dont want to make the uncomfortable and hard decisions that come with being a man. Does your situation suck. Yep. But thats life, pussy.

This isnt a my girl likes to eat out and I like to stay home and eat, are we compatible question. Youre girl is talking to other men and then deceiving you by purposely deleting text conversations. That means she is taking active steps to betray you. So keep following here, pussy. That means she isnt able to be loyal to you...which should be the baseline standard a person should have in a relationship.

Its decisions like this that reveal the type of man you are. Do you like to read red pill but are scared to take action because there could be some uncomfortable consequences or are you a man of action who decides his own fate and wont be dragged down by a low value woman?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Love it.

[–]Comeandseemeforonce1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I check my girls phone from time to time, but I fully 100% trust her. Just insurance

[–]Russian_Bot_7373 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

"Trust, but verify"

[–]wheresMYsteakAt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's more what it does to you mentally.

[–]wheresMYsteakAt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed with everything last line is solid. Anyone can be red pill when there isn't a problem.

[–]Elvis_Death-3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy

roger that. betraying whores get treated like war brides.

no mercy

i love their salty tears.

their red crying eyes make me hard as Conan.

and i lick the salt from their faces

[–]wheresMYsteakAt1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You forget in the way bride story one dude gets killed.

[–]BigDickEnergy12315 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

You're a fucking idiot if you continue a relationship with her after seeing this.

That's all I have to say.

[–]tb15126 points27 points  (6 children) | Copy

You missed a golden opportunity to take a pic of your junk and text it right then and there. Sorry bro, but these guys are right.

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (4 children) | Copy

Guy sees the pic, possibly ghosts again.

Plus, your girl can't talk with you about it without simultaneously snitching on herself.


[–]tb1516 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

Yeah, there's honestly no losing there.

[–]Freedom__Fighter7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

Fuck I am keeping this in my back pocket if I ever need to do this.

[–]iambecomechad1 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

You’ll never need to do this if you aren’t a cuck. This level of disrespect OP is getting symptomatic of him being a complete beta male - evidence by his “But we have good sex” response to those saying to ghost her.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I mean, I've seen genuine "alphas" get cucked, some women do whatever the hell they want with whomever, but you are speaking the gospel..

[–]Sake991 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Have you were even done it or someone you know did? How did it went?... Man I am laughing, that's something pure devlish.

[–]Tachankers10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

next bro, don’t hurt yourself

[–]uptimex8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

I know you don't want to dump her as now you don't have another plate to spin (not a branch to swing). But you really need to understand that even if you fix this, it'll repeat soon. So here is the list what you can do to make easier your breakup, but do it immediately after you ghosted her:

  1. Register on Tinder or/and othet dating platforms and start swiping.
  2. Remember all the girls you dated or you were going to date and see if you can call someone out.
  3. Go to some trip (not disneyland). Some hiking with a group of people.
  4. Go to shooting range, it will boost your confidence. Shooting always does.
  5. Find a good place to go out in the evenings. And start going there every night. Some place with music and girls. If you are a calm, introverted person, some Jazz club can work.
  6. You can continue this list. If you know what to do after, it will be easier to do what is neccessary.

[–]Modbsutansalt[M] 16 points17 points  (4 children) | Copy

Time to PITA and dump her cold. She's already setting up the branch swing now that he's back in her field of view. Alpha Widows, not even once!

[–]showerdudes9 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

Like i said this is not an alpha widow, from an ex who floods her with compliments , pisses out emojis constantly, openly being weak to her telling him he's having a rough time. This is a super beta ex , but OP must be even a heavier beta for her to consider going back to some beta ex dick

[–]Modbsutansalt2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Him having been the one to goat her is what makes her the widow. She was rejected and never got closure. So now she's sabotaging her relationship to get back with him seeking what she's been missing all this time from him, even if she doesn't realize it what she really craves from the guy.

[–]27billion2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This times 1000

[–]Jabbermouth15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dump her with zero explanation. No closure for her. Just block and disappear. Cancel the trip to Disney and don’t go. If you have any respect for yourself you’ll take the advice that’s been given to you.

[–]IV-IVm-I7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

bye bye

[–]BiscottiGeneral7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

She said she’s going to “Disney” with her nieces and her family. So you let her do exactly that. If you even consider going to Disneyland, you’ve cucked yourself.

[–]JyoungPNG1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Unless you’re dad

[–]Morpheus_TNTB22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy

Can you forward her #? She sounds really nice!

[–]comu_nacho13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'd also text the guy saying that you got a nasty STD from her and you're both on treatment, so she gets double ghosted. And actually get tested, 'cause you just may. This is the conversation you found, how could you be sure he's the first ex she contacts?

[–]certplom6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy

Hey man,

I'm sorry this is happening to you. Unfortunately (or rather fortunately) I know exactly what you feel right now. You might feel confused, you might feel angry and at the same time trying to convince yourself that this isn't that much of a deal or that you can even look past this.

I am saying this because I was in the same exact situation about 2 years ago (pre-red pill) and I did not act on it. What have I learned from that? This shit will continue and it will get only worse from here. I didn't have the balls back then to leave and it caused a lot of damage to my self-esteem and what not.

Please, do yourself a favour and leave. How you handle it is completely up to (in regards if you know about those texts or not). Again, if you don't leave it will not end well for you. Its been 2 years and sometimes I still get pissed about it. Don't be me.

Edit: typo

[–]JyoungPNG1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

I was in a LDR for a year in a half in my pre-red pill days (horrible idea if you want things to be exclusive btw) and my girl smashed the quarterback of her football team, told my best friend about it, and then proceeded to get fingered by my best friend while visiting me. Eventually, I broke up with her and she’s now happily dating my best friend. Fun fact, she’s cheated on him many times, he knows, but he is hardcore blue pill and won’t leave her as it is the only girl on that level to ever give him attention. If I had left when I first found out she cheated, I would have been saved from a lot of horrible emotions and she would’ve seen the errors in her ways. OP, be smart.

[–]StopGaming12341 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Your best friend? What the fk

[–]whiffofass 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Is he still your best friend?

[–]JyoungPNG0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

We aren’t as close as before. Mind you this was over a year ago and I don’t think our developed personalities are as compatible as they used to be.

[–]thesquarerootof117 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

You're an idiot. Break up with her you beta male. Your dumbass lets women walk all over you.

[–]sircomeseyesd5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

How often do you guys check phones?

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[–]BusterVadge5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Wanna know my rule? If I ever feel like I have to check someone's phone it's over.

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[–]Jsieijejeieokkd5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

She doesn’t respect you!

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

She doesn't value your time and commitment, act accordingly.

[–]kingbigbucket6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sooo... what were those pictures and the video of??? Regardless, HARD next.

[–]cuztrp4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Alright listen up and listen up good.

I think there's a consensus that your relationship is going downhill and here is how to come out victorious. The other guys here summarized it pretty well she's in the process of branch swining and you're feeling the cuckolding feeling and it really sucks big time.

But here is how to regenerate faster after breakup: you should be in control.

Up until this point, she's so in control. She's moving her pieces on the chess board and she's executing a well-thought plan and all's well. She's still setting the scene for that big bloody checkmate at the end. What you should do is simply flip the chess board over her face; thus you gain control over where this is going.

Trust me on this, studies have shown that those who are in control of the breakup feel much better and more satisfied after they break up with their partner. If she breaks up with you, it's not gonna feel good and it'll take months to recover. But if YOU fuck up her plans and break up with her instead, she will get fucked up and she won't know what to and what used to be soon-to-be a better option is now not worth it.

Here's what you should do. Go see her. Fuck her brains out as roughly as you can. Show her your true prowess, and record everything in audio. Especially her vocal consent that she wanted to fuck. Then remove yourself from the environment and text her this, "This relationship is over. Never call or text me again". And block her thot ass off social media and all means of communication. No explanation whatsoever. Then lie back and watch her getting all fucked up as to why you did it.

From this point, she'll desperately try to reach out for you asking for a closure, but you'll never give it to her because you don't need it. If she manages to trap you somewhere in real life, simply say that the relationship is over and that's it.

You'll see how you'll feel. The clearance of mind you'll get and the peacefulness that you're not with someone who's not appreciating your worth will make you feel very satisfied.

If you contrinue to stay with "reaping the benefits", growing distant by the time and getting yourself detached, you'll achieve totally the opposite. Don't do this. It's not gonna work. The effects of breaking up with you will be so tremendous you won't be able to handle it. This is why you should do fuck her one last time good and then let her go.

Good luck in there my friend. Sincerely wish you all the best.

[–]HurricaneHugues4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

"Here's what you should do. Go see her. Fuck her brains out as roughly as you can. Show her your true prowess, and record everything in audio. Especially her vocal consent that she wanted to fuck. Then remove yourself from the environment and text her this, "This relationship is over. Never call or text me again". And block her thot ass off social media and all means of communication. No explanation whatsoever. Then lie back and watch her getting all fucked up as to why you did it."

You fucking her is doing her a favor. Don't put your dick in garbage. No need for any of that nonsense. Nust breakup with her and offer no explanation. If you go for one last fuck, it'll always be a small victory to her. Just move on.

[–]cuztrp0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Oh never mind, the guy told his her mom about the texts lol

[–]Yummmi4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Unless you get the balls to next her you’re going to go through hell for the next little while until she ends up cheating on you. Don’t hurt yourself man. Just break up with her, No explanation. Ghost her and move on. This is pure disrespect to you. There are tons of other girls out there with better looks and personality that will actually respect you.

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[–]NaughtybutNice173 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Damm I’m sorry man

[–]Jsieijejeieokkd4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agree dump, ghost, no contact. Now!

[–]watchguy452 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You have only 1 option.

You will sit her down. Tell her you don’t think you guys are compatible and that you want to break it off. Block and never speak to her again.

I’m sorry and it sucks, but be grateful you’re learning this lesson now.

You will respect yourself tenfold if you take this plan of action.

You could say oh no biggie and stay and fuck but you will lose respect for yourself.

Good luck.

[–]Soon_As_I_Nut3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

You know the right answer to this. You do not need us to tell you to break up with this girl.

[–]Nergaal3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think most people here were at some point where you are now. And most wish now they had the courage to move on asap. The whole convo is only missing a dick pick to be on \r\cuck

[–]BIGBIRD_eblazio2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ditch her at LAX, head downtown, and never look back. She has to know that there are consequences for every action.

[–]RivenHalf4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is obviously lol you know the answer man. Come on now. And they were literally trading pictures afterwards AND she didn't mention. Man don't ever in your life need to ask about some shit like this again. She should have been nexted before the phone even left your hand. Bitches get cut for a quarter of this bro, where are you balls at!?!?! Damn....just....yeah damn. My condolences


[–]Cametotherightplace3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

You're getting the correct advice. Ghost.

[–]throwawayycheyeah2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

She dont deserve didney worl

[–]TopOccasion293 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

You can do this 2 ways with your dignity and self-respect intact.

  1. You can break up with her now, don't tell her the reason and just tell her "it's over" or "it's not working" then delete her from your life, block and delete her number, social media etc. Remember DO NOT TELL HER YOU SAW THE TEXTS, she'll accuse you of invading her privacy and being insecure, controlling etc. If you want to inform her parents of her actions, it's your choice. It's good you have proof if she claims she never did it.

  2. Emotionally detach from her, she's just a fuck buddy from now on. Fuck her hard and rough but don't let your emotions get the best of you. Don't fall for her again. Don't go beta at all. Just go with the flow as her as your fuck buddy. Don't give her time, money or commitment. Don't invest any thing other than your dick in her 3 holes for your pleasure.

Good luck OP.

[–]bestsparkyalive7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think you should probably try and just marry her so you basically guarantee her lifelong commitment to you. You’ve made it clear she’s a catch. A unicorn among AWALTs perhaps....

[–]DadOnDabs2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Automatic break up for that.

[–]alleyteris2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Think about it:

1)she is in contact with an ex

2) they are flirting

3) she sends him pics and video

4) she deletes the messenges

5) she doesnt mention she has a BF

The choice here is yours:

A) you stay with her knowing that someday she will eventually cheat and you will break up

B) break up now, spare you the pain of waiting for her to cheat + you get to keep the canceled trips money

[–]CaptainKidd962 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

OP you're a simp. You are very well aware of the fact that she's gonna fuck him behind your back and that you should ghost her, yet you've only replied to one comment in which another idiot said that she's only seeking attetion.

Go ahead, don't break up with her. Continue being a simp and rationalise away her bad behaviour. Hell, maybe even consider marrying her because "she ignores tf out of other guys except this one". At least you know she will only be sucking off one guy behind your back.

[–]civilizedfrog2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I predict you getting cucked if you don't dump and ghost her ass now. There is no saving this relationship. She is making moves to branch swing to her ex.

[–]Whatdoin272 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

So, who's down to bet she cheats? She's about to "magically" fall on another dudes yogurt squirter bro.

[–]TopOccasion292 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

"magically" fall on another dudes yogurt squirter bro

LMAO "Yogurt squirter". Isn't it hilarious when it just magically and accidentally happens when it comes to women?

[–]Whatdoin270 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Which is why I don't trust females. Lol 😂😂😂

[–]CharlesChadworth2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

If you don't break up with her asap, get 'cuck' tattooed across your chest. This way it will remind you everytime you wake up and walk to the mirror.

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[–]Sake992 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

ghost! ghost! ghost!....

Do it quick.

[–]drsherbert2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Start scouting for new chicks ASAP

[–]claykiller20102 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

(She doesn’t know I saw the messages).

She probably thinks you did if she deleted it right after you saw it, like what are the chances of that?

Listen to the others on here, ghost her bro.

[–]jeff_vii2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Props to you OP for having the balls to post this, it's not easy. You knew what to do before posting this though. You've done the hard bit now, follow through and dump that trash

[–]madara_on_reddit2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'll just add to what everyone is saying, dump her and don't tell her why. This way she thinks there is something wrkng with her and maybe her looks and value are deteriorating. Even better tell her that you dont find her attractive or you found someone new.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

If she mentions you he will stop talking to her.

Her deleting the conversation means you checked her phone again? That's a lot of work you are doing.

She showed him a pic and he showed her a pic right? Nothing too bad about that but it sounds like she misses that guy.

Doesn't sound terrible at the moment but she's not GF material, you've arrived at the point when she's just a friend with benefits.

I wouldn't be mad, I'd just quietly downgrade her and start doing more things on your own and meeting new people. She's probably an ok chick but when she asks you about it, you can just say you need more time to yourself and things as bf gf aren't really working out. Tell her you aren't ready for a relationship like that but you can still be friends.

Have something better to do and soon.

[–]Elvis_Death-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

sir i respect your perspective on a lot of poasts and comments . i think you are saying that in this context it is not worth the effort of being up front with the bitch. however, i am not convinced that the silent backdoor slide is appropriate for this situation.

i think OP has a significant emotional investment in this woman and this betrayal is a bone fide heartbreak. that pain is what has brought many of us to this brotherhood of men.

i suggest that OP seize the moment and GRAB POWER, control his emotions and BREAK THE BITCH's MIND and HEART.

i admit i am older and have been around the block enough times to see a clear path of action and my methods are not for the timid or faint of heart.

I perceive this to be a rite of passage moment for OP and any other young men going through similar trials.

RITE of PASSAGE = Sieze POWER from the whores.


[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yah, I just don't give up on people for being shitty in small ways, this is a small typical problem to me.

Thanks for adding your piece. I like it and I do agree it is a good move. She hasn't done much so far in my eyes, he could have found them swapping nudes, but he didn't, it hasn't gotten there. It could go there but it hasn't yet so who knows.

She's got a single chick mentality for sure and that should be understood and action should be taken. Plenty of right action to take, whatever he chooses at least he knows now.

[–]Andorli3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Jesus Christ, the cringe I experienced reading those semi-awkward semi-flirty (if you could em that) messages.

Just dump her and move on with your life bruh.

[–]idontevenlift371 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’ve been in this exact situation. Doesn’t matter how good things are going right now, she will find a reason to break up with you, or just make one up if it isn’t there. Your best option is to either break up with her first or at the very least mentally prepare yourself for it to happen.

[–]Antonella001 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Not into you

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[–]Totsean1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Walk away, she ain't worth it.

[–]tefllifestyle1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Damn man how they write, sending pics, thats game over for you

[–]Bedtimeshine1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s time to pull back and treat this as casual. I wouldn’t even go on the trip...

[–]catriel251 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

As someone in a LTR right now, THANK YOU.

I think we all need this kind of stories from time to time to remember how reallity actually works.

As everybody told you here fuck her brains out and dump her.

[–]JyoungPNG1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Are you a high value man? If so, you don’t let this happen. Ghost ASAP or downgrade her. Don’t get walked over, you have value my guy. Focus on your purpose and don’t get distracted by the pathetic actions of women.

[–]BurntYams1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Everyone’s giving you advice to save the relationship,

”Dread game and game other women to display you have options to make her hesitant to actually go through with fucking this guy.”

wtf? there’s nothing left to do here op, there’s nothing to save, the relationship, whether you want to admit it or not, is GONE. Move on. Break up. There’s no saving this. Ending it now and NEVER looking back or speaking to her ever again is the only right answer. It’ll hurt less. Trust me. (from personal experience)

[–]the13thmonk1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy


1) she didn't mention you
2) she's flirting with this dude

3) she deleted convo

peace tf out

[–]El_Serpiente_Roja1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Holy fuck guys

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

She didn't mention you because (to her) you aren't worth mentioning.

She's covering her tracks.

[–]Gawernator1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ghost her, block her on everything and disappear.

[–]cursedflame1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

so there are 240+ comments of redpill brethrens trying to help you, i see alot of good advice and things you should follow upon on. Right now since there are so many comments on your post so i'm not quite sure if you ever read this. but i'll try to pain a picture for you how it's like being the guy who she is texting with.

My own personal story is exactly like this except, i'm the guy who already met up with this girl who is into a 4 year old relationship and we had sex for 2 hours and everything in between.

The only thing different is that i knew she had a boyfriend but i wanted to try it eitherway since i used to date her when i was a blue pilled teen and since my transformation i was able to pull it off quite easy.

She will meet up with the lad, She will give him the chance to have sex with her, if he plays his cards right (although he seems like a beta a bit) he will get the cuchi. She will have an amazing time. and the next morning she will have regret. guilt towards you her current boyfriend, and obviously the maybe perhaps branch swing option her ex lover.

Whatever happens, in for example my scenario, she already told me her bf has been to sweet and to boring for quite some years and she loves him on a friendly way. If you are somewhat like that perhaps go try to become the best version of you by training yourself mentally and physically. Eitherway this relationship is over, She will try to swing, if she misses she will go back to you and she never tell you what she did. or she tells you, and if you are a man and you love and respect yourself you get the hell outta there. if you are a mangina who doesn't have any respect towards hisself you stay and try to "fix"it . But if it comes at the stage that you have to fix it its alrdy broken beyond repair.

forreal, i hope you won't do anything stupid. because we all have been there and love and pussy steadily on a weekly basis makes you loose sight of reality. we have been there we all have. I just hope you decide to split your logical thinking from the emotions you are feeling and cut her out of your life and start working on number uno and thats you.

I hope you find yourself again, go get big and become a man and go follow your dreams and goals, We don't know howlong our brotherhood will stand with al these rules and hate regards toxic masculinity. but for aslong we can we will aid eachother with the struggles of today's society.

stay strong. you got this!

[–]vullnet1231 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Op I can send you texts my ex was getting from her orbiter and my biggest mistake was not dumping her right then and there. Please do yourself a favor, and respect yourself and dump her.

[–]AuthorWriterWhatever3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Text to Photo shit sketchy as fuck, get up and leave you’ll thank yourself later

[–]surreptitioussoidog0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She's playin you. Play back. Repurpose her into a plate, then break it, hard!

[–]HurricaneHugues0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Break up with her and don't offer any explanation

[–]Platos_slow_brother0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She is not your GF, she is simply the gal you are having sex with until you get a replacement. Don't bother confronting. Don't bother explaining. You know all you need to know, and you have your plan: find another partner for regular sex. Dump this one whenever you want. Don't complain, don't explain.

[–]Sendmeloveletters[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Time to ghost a bitch

[–]FatmanO0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Cut all contact, you deserve better.

[–]asktrp44330 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

damn i thought i had it bad. ghost her ass.

[–]GreenWallsAndAFan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Leave now. There’s no hope. She’ll be on his dick the week after you break up. Ghost is fine.

[–]SniXSniPe0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Brah, you need to drop her. Not telling you to act vindictive or anything, but just end it.

[–]Stupyyy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's over.

[–]rockyp320 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I know it sucks man but end it

[–]Distractingyou0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Use your neocortex and not your infralimbic system you know what to do fuck her and then break with her

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[–]wheresMYsteakAt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Kinda mad mongeeese wasn't a friend of yours I could mess with.

[–]Cryptoguru7770 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'd throw the bitch out the second the came out the shower.

[–]Carleather-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

You better call her the fuck out, man.

[–]Wreckn 1 points [recovered]  (8 children) | Copy

She's seeking emotional validation from a LDR. I wouldn't break up with a chick over this, there's no physical contact. It's another thing if she's meeting with him or planning to.
If you think your unicorn isn't flirting with other people, you're kidding yourself. Women love to flirt and get validation from other men. It's part of life.

If this was your wife on the other hand, that's a different story.

[–]Jabbermouth15 points16 points  (7 children) | Copy


She’s sending this nigga photos. If you stay with a whore after that, you are bitch made. Plain and simple.

[–]falconiawillfall4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fr. Tolerating this would mean this guy has zero self respect.

[–]campa56la-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Listen, these hardcore rp nerds are overanalyzing what was said and what wasn’t said. Are you fucking her? Take it out on her that way. Don’t be a bitch like these guys because your girl flirted with an ex on the phone. She deleted it cause she checked herself. Fuck her good and let it go.

[–]27billion-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why are all these latest red pill posts about gf problems— a relationship is one of the most blue pilled things a man can do; purple pilled at best. Also they all reek of oneitis and a scarcity mindset.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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