Women's need for motherhood is just as important as men's need for sex

EliteSpartanRanger · 2017-09-08T16:32:11+00:00

I'm pretty happy single and childless.

ClarityofDisaster · 2017-09-08T13:27:48+00:00

Because it may or may not be true on an individual level.

I have absolutely no need or desire to procreate. I've weighed the opinions, was very involved in the raising of my numerous younger siblings, babysat throughout all of middle school and high school for money, and decided when I was about 16 or so that children were pretty great...Just that having my own was not for me. I prefer being free of those responsibilities and able to live my life without needing to ensure care for another human being. I'm 33 now and have never once regretted my decision.

Conversely, most of my friends are fathers and they actively planned to be/assumed they would be for much of their lives. And they actually do love being a dad and husband. They admit that parenthood is not always easy, and that kids bring a lot of stress into the marriage and general life. But they've weighed out the good times vs the bad times and reached the opposite conclusion...that they wouldn't have been as fulfilled in their lives without having a family.

Having children is not a "need" simply because you are biologically a female, and it is not something you don't care about just because you're biologically male.

fetchyminx · 2017-09-08T13:18:55+00:00

You know what actual human needs are? Food, sleep & water.

Doom_and-Gloom · 2017-09-08T15:34:30+00:00

I don't see any reason that compels me to accept it as true. Women enjoy sex, and they seem to feel like they need it much in the same way men do. Men have personal drives to be a father, and they seem to feel like they need it much in the same way women do.

What makes you think this in the way you do?

Liverbones · 2017-09-08T16:38:44+00:00

Because that's not true, I am strictly child free but love practicing regularly. I am female.

RockinSocksII · 2017-09-08T13:17:30+00:00

Because neither one is a need.

shoup88 · 2017-09-08T14:31:35+00:00

What are you asking us to debate exactly?

Carkudo · 2017-09-08T14:38:56+00:00

Because it doesn't warrant discussion? Whether it's a need or a want everything is already geared to fulfilling it as reliably and easily as possible.

2017-09-08T14:59:06+00:00

more important to whom??

fetchyminx · 2017-09-08T13:42:14+00:00

Is this another ridiculous attempt at excusing males for being unable to control their libido? Where is thy agency? I don't get this nonsense.

PrettyAspieLuvsP0rn · 2017-09-08T16:01:43+00:00

I feel so ashamed that they call me redpiller like you are just because I say that muscle height and bone structure is more critical on guys.

Word need doesn't mean a thing . You maybe have a need to cum, not to have sex

Butt-Factory · 2017-09-08T17:26:17+00:00

Then why are more and more women choosing to not have children? Why would we deny ourselves this "need"?

Becoming a mother is obviously a priority for many women, but it's not uncommon to meet women without this desire. I love children, but I have no plans of ever having my own. I do not feel as though I'm missing out on anything. This is my choice.

MrB0gus · 2017-09-08T13:14:32+00:00

Probably bc no one really shames a woman for wanting to be a mother. In fact the opposite is true.

There are countless resources encouraging and instructing women how to find a relationship and become a mother (both good and bad).

They don't have to rely on shady internet communities to figure it out.

2017-09-08T17:13:24+00:00

"Need"

Pope_Lucious · 2017-09-08T17:48:03+00:00

Cool opinion bro

tinteoj · 2017-09-08T19:31:58+00:00

My wife wants to be a parent even less than I do.

Edit: And just to clarify, I've had a vasectomy because I do not want to be a parent even one iota. And she still wants to be one less!

2017-09-10T14:07:39+00:00

I notice a lot of childless women end up with more than one pet.

cattermelon34 · 2017-09-08T13:56:27+00:00

Personally, I don't see motherhood as a "need" as much as a societal pressure (whose pressure is getting weaker by the generation). Same with marriage. People are realizing they don't need it. Having children should be something you prepare for and unfortunately the more successful a couple is the less likely they are to have children (or perhaps not having children makes you more successful? Maybe both?)

Sex, on the other hand, is both biological (it feels good for most people) and society (statues symbol). I don't feel like these two things are comparable because of this.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2017-09-08T14:04:21+00:00

discussing it where? on TRP? why would TRP discuss this?

2017-09-08T15:58:03+00:00

Nope. Men are CONSTANTLY told they don't "need" sex.

Women do not NEED to get pregnant or have babies or raise children. They really really REALLY want to. But they will not die if they never become mothers.

That little sword cuts both ways, people.

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i_have_a_semicolon · 2017-09-08T14:30:04+00:00

Who cares about either? If you want success you have to earn it. Don't expect it to fall in your lap.

2017-09-08T16:28:48+00:00

Is this a CMV?

OP, are you going to return to this post and defend your view?

AellaGirl · 2017-09-08T17:39:32+00:00

I think this manifests as something different from 'motherhood.' Women's need for "stability" in romantic relationships is a common trope - she wants to "lock you down" or "get married," and this aspect is discussed pretty regularly, usually as an oppositional force to men trying to get laid.

Women's need for stability pushes them towards dedicated motherhood in the same way that men's need for sex pushes them towards a flexible fatherhood.

The question as it's phrased would be more balanced, I think, if it were "Women's need for commitment is just as important as men's need for casual sex."

Onna999 · 2017-09-08T19:52:11+00:00

I wouldn't call it need, but a want.

SlimLovin · 2017-09-08T20:13:03+00:00

This idea that men "need" sex is some Eliot Rodger bullshit. CMV.

2017-09-08T20:58:10+00:00

Since when did women make good mothers?

2017-09-09T06:54:25+00:00

Women abuse children much more than men. No thanks.

Willow-girl · 2017-09-09T15:21:51+00:00

Some women, maybe, but those parts of MY anatomy are reserved for recreational purposes only! :-p

2017-09-09T17:41:07+00:00

Because according to pretty much every survey on the subject in recent history men are significantly more likely to want kids than women.

2017-09-10T16:32:31+00:00

The only things that disgust me more than pregnancy are babies. Admittedly I'm not a typical female. I'd rather be male if I had the choice.

gopher_glitz · 2017-09-13T13:09:30+00:00

Reproductive rights only apply to women.

Ever notice that no matter how poor, sick or unfit as parents people are, they still have the right to reproduce?

Reproduction is a right, sex isn't. You don't need either to live.

Women's need for motherhood is just as important as men's need for sex

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Title	Women's need for motherhood is just as important as men's need for sex
Author	jigglejalopy
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Comments	215
Date	September 8, 2017 1:07 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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