CMV: The most attractive men don't want to "spin plates"

drok007 · 2015-12-23T05:56:31+00:00

This post seems kind of out of touch.

1) Attractive men with options don't necessarily feel the need to settle down.

2) RP isn't against relationships, it's against relationships that are shitty for the man.

[deleted] · 2015-12-23T06:07:20+00:00

Your theory doesn't hold up every well. Lots of attractive, high status guys, namely Leonardo DiCaprio, Kobe Bryant, Justin Bieber, all have plenty of girls they get laid with.

What your experiencing is the special snowflake effect. Where you want to believe these really attractive men want to find true love just like you.

Talran · 2015-12-23T05:35:45+00:00

I agree with the part that they don't need "game" or need to brag as an anonymous poster on TRP.

However, plenty of high level SMV guys bang lower level women before they want to commit. High SMV will frequently bang women 6 or 7s during their 20s, just because men like to have sex.

Since they are high value, they can just "hook up" with women consistently without commitment.

When they get older and are ready to settle, they will marry a female 9 to 10.

your_mom_on_drugs · 2015-12-23T07:39:34+00:00

Most attractive men just cheat on their wives

Cyralea · 2015-12-23T15:05:47+00:00

This lead to them not resenting women and feeling confident in themselves. They don't feel the need to "spin plates" to feed their egos because they already know that women like them--a lot.

Mistaken assumption number one: Men don't spin plates to assuage their egos, they do so for sexual variety. Men evolved to want to fuck the top ~60% of women because that was evolutionarily advantageous.

The most attractive men are desired by women in the same way that the most attractive women are desired by men

Mistaken assumption number two: Male attraction triggers are very different from female ones. Pre-selection, for example, does not work at all on men.

RP is based in bitterness and the idea that real love doesn't exist between men and women

And number three: RP is based on lucid, clear-thinking because our emotions are no longer clouding our judgement. As a woman, you are emotionally invested in your ideas. You believe True Love exists because you want it to be true. RP men do not think this way.

RareBlur · 2015-12-23T05:49:54+00:00

They don't CARE if women like them or not because they don't need social validation from women to boost their self-esteem. Women are attracted to that because it's healthy.

They don't give off a needy, desperate for attention vibe and if rejected they don't turn into defensive monsters.

worldtraveler1234 · 2015-12-23T06:18:00+00:00

Just because you've been hurt once by a woman doesn't mean that AWALT. I've been mistreated by men and I still believe that one day I'll find love.

Of course you will. We call that AFBB. ; )

grendalor · 2015-12-23T14:39:50+00:00

Nice theory, but not true in my experience.

The best plate spinner I know is a guy I've known since HS. We went to college together as well. He is now in his later 40s. He was married, briefly (less than 3 years) in his early 30s, but otherwise, he hops around from girl to girl. He's very good looking (handsome face), always in good shape (lifted weights since HS -- not a body builder, but developed and maintained), runs Game actively, has abundance mentality, and catches and releases on a regular basis. Now in his late 40s, he isn't spinning women in their early 20s any more, but now they range from early 30s (31-32) to late 30s. He lives in Southern California, and they're pretty much all very good looking women, too. He has no desire to settle on one of them, and never has, since he realized monogamy and marriage was not for him.

That's not the lifestyle that I prefer to lead, mind you, but it works for him, and he's quite good looking, confident and secure when it comes to women.

This post strikes me as the female equivalent of the beta male revenge fantasy. As the beta male thinks that Chad and the Sluts of college will not end well, the reality is that most of the time they end up just fine. The same here -- there is a desire to see plate spinners are ugly losers who can't get women, when in reality that is not the case at all, because in order to pull that off with attractive women you have to be quite attractive yourself. Sorry, but that's how it works, and this guy has been running this game with women since he was in his early 20s.

Whisper · 2015-12-23T19:59:44+00:00

The strongest men don't want to "lift weights". They are just naturally strong, so they never had to make this big thing out of "lifting". Men who "lift weights" are just bitter because they are weak.

Xemnas81 · 2015-12-23T05:43:40+00:00

idk most men don't spin plates because it's socially weird.

However, a lot of attractive guys do get laid every weekend which serves the same purpose as plates.

There's an odd sense of satisfaction with plates. You care much much much less about how you treat a girl because you LITERALLY have a girl ready to have sex with you at your fingertips. Usually that would mean you can go out and talk to some chick, but in this case, not even that, you just gotta text "come over".

So there's a certain freedom with plate one, because you got plate 2. It's quite a feeling and it's something I'd recommend to every man before he dies. I never thought much about plate spinning before trp and thought it was gross but it's a great experience. It's either LTRs or plates. I can't see how anything in between is any better.

damaskrose · 2015-12-23T06:08:35+00:00

My husband lost his virginity as a teenager when some random girl threw herself at him for a ONS. I guess he thought it was whatever, because he wasn't really interested in casual sex after that. For most of us, casual sex is just one step above masturbation. But when sex doesn't come easily, people build it up as like this validating experience.

Some attractive men want casual sex, some don't. I think the ones who actively pursue it are more likely to be "late bloomers" who didn't get sexual validation earlier in life.

FirionDarklight · 2015-12-23T10:51:44+00:00

I should introduce you to my stepbrother sometime. Stupid as a brick, slaying pussy left and right and not commiting anywhere.

basilwhite · 2015-12-23T11:04:33+00:00

TIL Natural Alphas are natural.

czerdec · 2015-12-23T11:24:58+00:00

I'd opine that they very much would prefer to spin plates, but only if:

1) spinning plates was socially accepted, because most humans are very conformist, and attractive men are no exception

2) spinning plates was no obstacle to having kids, and also having a loving, warm (albeit not at all monogamous), harmonious, jealousy-free relationship with the mother of those kids.

Neither condition is satisfied in the modern world. Not even close. For that reason, attractive men regretfully decide not to spin plates.

99_Problem · 2015-12-23T14:13:59+00:00

Such a myopic point of view. As if a romantic relationship were the best or only avenue for feeling love. Fairytales.

You're writing as if being attractive were something exclusive of confidence and game. They're all closely tied together. A confident man is attractive. Game helps him capitalize on being attractive. Successfully gaming women feeds a man's confidence and boosts his attractiveness.

What's truly humorous about this post is that you're playing directly into the RP narrative that only a small fraction of the total male population are actually attractive to the majority of women (i.e. "The most attractive men ..."). What are the rest of us supposed to do? Get lost? Yeah, we know.

alreadyredschool · 2015-12-23T15:32:39+00:00

The most attractive men are desired by women in the same way that the most attractive women are desired by men. Because they can get sex so easily, they are able to choose for the other traits they want in a partner--compatibility, personality, sense of humor, etc. They don't get burned as much as the less-attractive men, so they are less likely to be jaded when it comes to love.

Become more attractive, this paragraph shoes the need for rp

RP is based in bitterness and the idea that real love doesn't exist between men and women. It absolutely does. If you want to go through life scorning real love ("oneitis") and deriding happily married men for being "beta," that's fine. But I believe that life is nothing without love and, much as RP tries to pretend that we are thoughtless animals incapable of feeling, I believe that we are human BECAUSE of our ability to feel and love.

Misunderstandings: rp isn't based on bitterness, love exists, beta is not bad, the rest is bullshit too.

Just because you've been hurt once by a woman doesn't mean that AWALT. I've been mistreated by men and I still believe that one day I'll find love.

You think that is the reason why anyone belives awalt?

Anyways if we boil down your post, remove the strawman and misunderstandings then it has one message: be attractive, don't be unattractive

ColdEiric · 2015-12-23T16:03:47+00:00

Some guys are traditional. They want that same food every day. Breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Other guys aren't. They want a little bit of everything every now and then. Mexican, Indian, Moroccan, Thai, Chinese, Japanese, French, Swedish, Danish, Russian. German. Spanish. And so on.

You get the idea. Or not.

[deleted] · 2015-12-23T16:18:54+00:00

the most attractive men never had to develop "game" to get girls.

Somewhat off topic, but remember every time someone says "they're just people!" Remember shit like this. They are lying. If they were "just people", there wouldn't be rules, technique, and skill to impressing them while they sit back and passively evaluate

cloudstryfe · 2015-12-23T18:57:10+00:00

You're using words but i don't think you know their definitions.

double-happiness · 2015-12-23T22:18:35+00:00

the most attractive men never had to develop "game" to get girls

You say that as if being attractive is enough for a man to get girls, which it isn't. A man still has to take the initiative, and not just show interest but actively pursue women. I think an attractive man can have lots of admirers but if he doesn't pursue women enough they will tend to see him as disinterested in them individually, or generally, i.e. gay.

Lonny_zone · 2015-12-24T16:33:36+00:00

I agree with this, to a point: a lot of the dating an attractive man does will look like spinning plates to an unattractive man.

(A handsome man might have sex with ten girls before settling on one, because he can, that is the natural vetting process of an attractive man.)

sugarwallsrobinson · 2015-12-25T04:04:34+00:00

If a guy has been constantly praised by ladies for being a stud all of his life he will want that same praise and affirmation via sexual conquest regardless of his relationship status. Don Draper in Mad Men is a perfect example of this.

Interversity · 2015-12-23T06:04:17+00:00

Yes, there is real love, but only chads are ever able to be loved because women are only capable of loving chads. Most of us will never be genuinely loved by women because we aren't perfect. We are doomed to a lifetime of uncertainty, low self-esteem, paranoia and the crippling certainty that women aren't attracted to us, at least not attracted enough.

[deleted] · 2015-12-23T22:17:17+00:00

RP is based in bitterness and the idea that real love doesn't exist between men and women.

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Title	CMV: The most attractive men don't want to "spin plates"
Author	worldtraveler1234
Upvotes	12
Comments	215
Date	December 23, 2015 5:24 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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