1st Pick Overall Jameis Winston's false rape accuser Erika Kinsman had a boyfriend - who she had sex with the night of the non-rape

throwmeaway3399 · 2015-05-04T16:58:26+00:00

One my dad's best friend's sons was the starting quarter back for a D2 school. He met this chick, they started hanging out, had sex once, and then he realized he gone messed up and stuck his dick in crazy. He said he didn't want to see her anymore so she cried rape. He got kicked off the team and lost his scholarship BEFORE the case went to trial. Well eventually the truth came out, they had exchanged like 30,000 texts, many of which saying she wanted to sleep with him before and after the event. (Save your texts gentlemen). He got his scholarship back and was let back on the team but he lost a year of his life and his image is destroyed for life. Such BS.

randomhero1172 · 2015-05-04T14:19:41+00:00

This is the "rape culture" we keep hearing about; slutty women playing the victim card and running to the media to cry and make a scene. Then, when the accuser is found to be not truthful, the accused is still left with a broken image. But hey, women need more rights nowadays /s

renzy77 · 2015-05-04T15:27:14+00:00

Something to keep in mind if you ever have a ONS with a woman who has a boyfriend or husband. She will not hesitate to throw you under the bus if her infidelity is discovered. Look at the study Kanin [1] did on false rape accusations and the very first reason you'll see listed is providing an alibi:

Of the 45 cases of false charges, over one-half (56%, n = 27) served the complainants' need to provide a plausible explanation for some suddenly foreseen, unfortunate consequence of a consensual encounter, usually sexual, with a male acquaintance.

[1] http://sf-criminaldefense.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/KaninFalseRapeAllegations.pdf

R_E_D_1 · 2015-05-04T14:11:58+00:00

And, yet again, women do more damage to legitimacy of real rape victims. So much for the sisterhood.

trpSenator · 2015-05-04T18:51:34+00:00

HA! I fucking called it on my main account on the primary subs. Many people refused to believe me, trying to argue that I have no way of knowing blah blah blah, we need more information. But as we all know, these false rapes almost always follow her being a huge slut and getting caught. I fucking got the spidy sense soon as I heard about her false rape. It just felt like another one of those cases where BF found out, and she didn't want the reputation of slutting it up.

I love being right about these things. Right on the fucking target.

a-memorable-fancy · 2015-05-04T14:47:49+00:00

I just hope cases like these don't end up distracting from the real problem, which is and always has been sexual assault against women. Did you know 5 out of every 1 women will experience stare rape in her lifetime? It's a real thing.

68461674897051454980 · 2015-05-04T13:42:42+00:00

at minimum, now that her name is tied to this hopefully her family and future children will know what a desperate ho their mother was.

at best, hopefully she is hit with a slander lawsuit or something.

if you're anyone, but especially someone with money or someone coming up, you NEED to document all your time and encounters because of shit like this. a $300 go pro vs a few years and jail and losing a lot of money, easy choice

also

drove her to her dorm on his scooter.

lol

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RedCoris · 2015-05-04T14:26:59+00:00

I have found that females entertain reputation an extraordinary amount. Drunk at a bar and see the NBT (Next Best Thing, is what i call it) and decides to forgets everything that her relationship with her current boyfriend has amounted to. When it blows up in her face, when her reputation as a slut, bitch, nasty surfaces, she externalizes rather than internalizes. Winston raped me! No bitch, you are just a slut. We can safely assume in her past she constantly got put on a pedestal, thinking she was little miss perfect.

meepermcderp · 2015-05-04T20:20:01+00:00

I'm a student at FSU currently and the vast majority of people here assume that the girl was just some lying bitch looking to get her 15 minutes of fame and/or money.

RedPillAnonymous · 2015-05-04T14:54:28+00:00

Feminist rape culture awareness propaganda campaigns are really raising awareness for how common false rape allegations are. If rape was so common, and false accusations so rare, why do all of their best attempts to expose it turn out to expose another false allegation?

EightyTimes · 2015-05-04T18:22:28+00:00

The silliest part about accusations like these: High SMV men don't NEED to rape.

Why bother to intoxicate, force, or 'take advantage' of a girl when there are plenty of other chick DTF that don't have boyfriends, don't need to be forced, and don't need a drop of alcohol?

For these men, a 1 second risk/reward analysis will tell you it's not worth it to rape.

It almost seems as if these accusations aren't just a weapon, but also an ego boost on the part of the chick. "I'm so desirable that this hish SMV FORCED me to fuck him".

PookIsLovePookIsLife · 2015-05-04T18:17:16+00:00

The entire rape culture/rape epidemic only exists because feminists have decided to change the definition of the word rape.

If anyone examines the issue logically, you'd realize the idea that the college demographic being so much more likely to commit rape is ridiculous. The most well off, educated, and driven young adults are the ones most likely to commit a horrible crime that jeopardizes their future? Logically that demographics is the LEAST likely to commit crimes.

The only reason there is a rape epidemic is because the definition of rape has been expanded to regret sex or drunk sex. Everyone knows college kids get drunk and do stupid shit. I'm not sure why feminists have decided that this is such a pressing issue. Maybe it's something against "patriarchal white privileged" fratstars hooking up with all the girls.

ghost_of_crazytrpr · 2015-05-04T17:08:13+00:00

Two words: Record everything

redpillcynic · 2015-05-04T14:57:24+00:00

Stuff like this makes me think about installing a pinhole camera right in the ceiling above my bed, lest the hamster bites the hand that feeds it

London-Bananas · 2015-05-04T19:00:23+00:00

It's funny how rape is only reported when there's something to win for her (eg hide cheating, get money, save reputation). But when it's the real deal, they suddenly don't do anything. I know two women who were genuinely assault raped on the street, and neither reported even anything. One I knew well and it was the classics "nothing will happen, too traumatized to go through it again, ashamed".

It made me furious. Still does to this day. Not reporting this is willingly putting other women to risk the same because you're too weak/lazy/scared to do anything about it. Just the idea that they'd go through all that for someone else was just completely incomprehensible to her. God damn it makes me mad just writing this.

Air4ce1 · 2015-05-04T20:40:35+00:00

You can read Jameis Winston's account of the alleged rape. He basically goes into explicit detail of what exactly happened, down to the minor sexual details. Comparing his account to her account I most certainly believe Winston.

fingerbangbng · 2015-05-05T00:30:34+00:00

Relevant story. Met this girl about two/three months ago who's 24, three kids who live with their dad because she works and he's out of the military or some story, worked as a bar manager which is where I met her and slept with her that night (shitty alcoholic's body). Way too many red flags so was cool to her in the morning and got some texts about the good time she had etc just in case.

Anyways, she is on like OkCupid, POF, Tinder, etc. and has her snapchat name on there which is relevant because I was bored and perusing snapchat today when I see where she posts to her story, "Sorry everyone. I was raped a couple days ago..I'm not ignoring you I just feel like laying in bed." (Picture is of her wall or something). Next snapchat is same picture of her wall with the text, "Can anyone local bring me some food..I don't have my car." And the finisher (picture of her legs crossed on the couch) "I'm fine. I'm just sad and not very talkative. Cheer me up?" A few months ago I would've felt terrible for her and outraged that some douche took advantage of her. Now I see it for what it really is, a perfect beta-bait trap. She's basically broadcasting this to every guy on OkC or POF in our (fairly-large) area.

transientliving · 2015-05-04T17:40:35+00:00

Humiliation and violation of vulnerability can cause people to do strange things. I have no doubt that she felt raped by this experience. But that does not mean Winston raped her.

This is just the start. Take careful note that our society and laws are moving into a direction where "feeling raped" is the same thing as "being raped".

blue_27 · 2015-05-05T02:09:28+00:00

She also reported that he drugged her, but no traces of drugs were in her system. Other than the 0.048 BAC.

Obio1 · 2015-05-05T03:37:33+00:00

TL/DR: White girl from a good family gets videotaped with a mouth full of black, football-player cock. Says she was raped. Intentionally destroys the life of a man to preserve her image. No evidence supports her case. Plenty of evidence counters it. The court of public opinion sides with her.

basedbobby · 2015-05-04T21:59:57+00:00

"Winston told the girl she couldn't stay and drove her to her dorm on his scooter." The thug life choose him

RedPillAnonymous · 2015-05-04T14:11:08+00:00

Seriously, can you audio record sex? Or video record leading up to the sex without the actual naked part?

Considering it is officially on you to prove your innocence what legal methods are there that allow you to do so?

neveragoodtime · 2015-05-05T01:58:31+00:00

I think that we have to accept, at a certain point, the patriarchy ostensibly set up to defend women, is actually there to protect men from women. Keeping women chaste is more about containing their wrath when they make poor decisions than oppressing them.

scarletspider3 · 2015-05-05T05:41:44+00:00

I think 'the hunting grounds' really means that they are hunting for the alpha that made them a widow and didn't worship her like he was supposed to.

Yangel · 2015-05-04T23:44:05+00:00

Yeah, I saw a bunch of shit like this go down in college. One time white knights tried to get a guy thrown out of a bar because he was a 'rapist'. Bar staff lol'd at them.

zephyrprime · 2015-05-05T18:26:26+00:00

Her alcohol blood level was .048 about 2.5hours after the event. The legal level to drive is .08. She claims she was blacked out most of the time during the rape. She also says that she may have been roofied but there were no drugs found in her system. Just one drink puts me above that blood alcohol level and I have never blacked out in my life despite having many more drinks than just one. Just another pump and dump who is mad.

Garainis · 2015-05-04T16:37:01+00:00

Fucking disgusting. This is exactly why I can't commit to LTRs anymore, you never know when a better looking/richer/more charismatic guy walks around the corner.

Dr_HoaxArthurWilmoth · 2015-05-05T00:11:18+00:00

Disgusting. Of course, the "Hunting Ground" does not care to get any opposing viewpoints or use real facts or generally accepted statistics.
They do not interview A...SINGLE....ONE....OF...THE....ACCUSED! Not one.

Something has to change.

systemshock869 · 2015-05-05T19:21:30+00:00

How many fucking times have we seen shit like this? A spoiled little brat like Kinsman will throw anyone and everyone under the bus to avoid facing the consequences of her own actions. Not just that - but lie through her fucking teeth about it for months and seek a pay day over it.

This shit has heavy implications for college-going (especially) and non-college-going men alike, yet it's taboo assholery to talk about it. The stranglehold that the feminine imperative has on society and critical thinking is mind boggling to think about. How many lives have been destroyed by lying bitches and the pussy-pass enablers that presume guilty until proven innocent? We'll never know, and society will probably never make the necessary changes to correct it. We're shamed for bringing it up, even when an incident is proven to be 100% false. The decline is real.

illimaybeois · 2015-05-05T21:13:29+00:00

We also forget the one key detail of this situation, the demographic this girl comes from.

Young western woman - check. Likely to be in the American upper middle class - check. In a sorority - check.

I hate to be the one to point this out but these are the exact women who are the cause of all of this. The red pill, manosphere, men's rights, and all of this. All of these crazy events happened because of the upper middle class American woman who is entitled, crazy, sociopathic, and status hungry. I was in a fraternity back in my college days and let me tell you, sorority girls are probably the worst when it comes to personality. Imagine all of the worst traits of western women thrown into one demographic with the only positive trait being good looks.

The amount of shit these girls talked about other girls, guys, and celebrities was unreal. Many of them would take even a slight come on from a guy not up to their standard in terms of look as "I think that guy wants to rape me" type of situation. The worst thing is that these girls have fraternities by the balls, if you want to be brave and call these women out on their nonsense, guess who's side the fraternity brothers are taking? Not yours.

I mean just look at the situation at hand, you have a guy who is exceptionally good at what he does (first freshman to win the Heisman and National Title) and a hot commodity on campus. Football stars are literally at the top 1% of men on a campus and most of them have their pick of girls. Now you have some basic looking sorostitute (believe me, Florida St has much better looking girls) who fell head over heels for him, got burned, and then set out to ruin the life of the man. Now had this girl kept it under the rug, she would have been like the many other sorority girls who hook up with guys they won't brag about.

No one asked this girl to go out, get drunk, or even interact with the football star.

Absolutely no accountability at all is shown from these types of women, say AWALT all you want but we are dealing with a special brand of sociopath. Dad is a rich betabucks, mom is post wall and somewhat good looking, and little Erika gets what she pleases without ever having to be disciplined for her actions. A sad situation that is happening on a nationwide scale these days as men get feminized.

PlebDestroyer · 2015-05-04T22:17:03+00:00

check out what this BP has to say: http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/joe--theres-a-cover-up-with-jameis-winston-439012419969

theultmatecad · 2015-05-04T22:35:55+00:00

But MSNBC says he is a rapist!

edwardhwhite · 2015-05-04T14:50:39+00:00

I tend to believe the woman when she goes straight to the cops.

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R3v4mp3d · 2015-05-04T15:42:52+00:00

Were the roles reversed, I'd do the same as her. I want to have fun with you and you and your friends treat me like trash. Nice one.

I'm betting that if that friend didn't come in, the chance of a rape accusation would drop dramatically.

I dunno why this isn't burned inside the brain of every male: don't disrespect the pussy you're fucking if she isn't disrespecting you. Or to generalize a bit: don't disrespect someone that didn't disrespect you.

simple_mech · 2015-05-05T04:05:40+00:00

Damn you ever think about writing for a newspaper or such? Very well written!

goremanbates · 2015-05-05T14:37:59+00:00

This piece of trash just makes it even harder for the girls who were actually raped to be believed.

johnnight · 2015-05-04T15:39:26+00:00

Not enough data to call it.

UlyssesElias · 2015-05-05T03:43:43+00:00

This is a tough one. I don't know the ins and outs of the case, but I know that a (male) journalist who won multiple pulitzer prizes Walt Bogdanich tells a different story to that of Billy.

Is there any point in tearing apart the (accused) mans story and the (accuser) woman's story? Haven't the legal experts and the media done this more times than any of us and more thoroughly than we can hope to?

I don't say this because I'm complacent about legal decisions. People should always fight and protest when injustice is served. I just think that there's a tendency in TRP for individuals to take up rape cases and try to prove that the accused is innocent and the accuser is a liar but it's a joyless task and one with no end or purpose in sight!

Title	1st Pick Overall Jameis Winston's false rape accuser Erika Kinsman had a boyfriend - who she had sex with the night of the non-rape
Author	trudatness
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Date	May 4, 2015 1:27 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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