Do you think there is a correlation between sexlessness and fiscal conservatism?

poppy_blu · 2020-04-12T16:49:27+00:00

Or like "social safety nets generate alpha-induced single motherhood".

GrapeCulture69 · 2020-04-12T17:19:09+00:00

In my experience, it's the exact opposite. Every single guy I know that consistently fucks ATTRACTIVE girls is not a collectivist in any way, including with fiscal policy. They tend to be selfish (not necessarily in a bad way) people who recognize that they need to earn things and others don't need to provide it for them. That alpha mindset makes them successful in life and with women.

The guys that cry about wanting other people's property without consent or earning it, are the same that cry about not being able to get pussy. They aren't used to working for anything, and expect it to be brought to them on a platter. They settle for fucking fat chicks, because it's the least effort move. The way they settle for low paying jobs, because they don't have to work as hard.

2020-04-12T16:57:36+00:00

Those are 2 data points with no causation nor correlation.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2020-04-12T17:13:43+00:00

the most fiscally conservative people are married men/married fathers imo, this seems like a retarded analysis

it was the grown up married fathers of the world who wanted tyrone held accountable for his OOW kids and wanted welfare as we know it ended, not sexless young men who don't even vote. young unmarried men are not a factor in politics

saladfingers4141 · 2020-04-12T16:58:27+00:00

Sexless usually correlates with no marriage and no children. I am childless so why should we raise taxes for schools? That I'll never use? Parks? Ater school programs?

DangZagnut · 2020-04-12T16:47:49+00:00

My tax money goes to support the U.S. nuclear arsenal. Not sure what you’re blowing your money on.

I don’t care that much about tax money going to social safety nets. The whole point is that’s how you control the stupid people. Start paying the stupids, then when they act up you can just strip it away as punishment.

That’s keeps stupid people pretty much in line.

You give them their favorite metal. Silver. Or lead. Dealers choice.

ThisIsMyAccount135 · 2020-04-12T17:03:51+00:00

No, I don't think so.

The wealthy, fiscally conservative guys I know get alot of pussy, but always in a committed relationship.

The fuckboys who try to hookup alot don't have much interest in politics.

Left wing soys are delusional and think that respecting wimmin will get then laid.

The libertarians, and alt right guys get no pussy at all.

Basically the conservative rich guys just follow life script. A few long term relationship, marriage, then kids.

M4sterDis4ster · 2020-04-12T17:55:57+00:00

Conservatives are more likely to be married and have more kids than democrats, yet they dont want high taxes to be spent on something irrelevant to society.

NeedingAdvice86 · 2020-04-13T00:24:53+00:00

No, the two have nothing to do with each other.

Good lord, people here are insane...people really need to get outside more because an unoccupied, uncontrolled mind causes the most insane thoughts.

The only thing we can tell for real is that the more progressive a person then the more they don't want to suffer the consequences of their actions and the more that they want others to pay for their way thru life.

Look at r\politics, it is overran with lazy, druggies bouncing between raging about legalizing drugs vs. voting\campaigning for ways to take money from their hardworking neighbors for all of their "human rights" like free medical care, free housing, free university, free drugs, guaranteed monthly income and hosts of other things which all boil down to taking money from their neighbors\community to give to them so that they can free up their time for smoking dope, playing video games and basically fucking their day away which having to get up and go to work makes hard.

poppy_blu · 2020-04-12T16:50:05+00:00

No. I think there is a correlation between sexlessness and:

a generation raised with no self awareness or social skills
a society that has made life so easy for young people that even the little effort it takes to get laid is asking too much
that same society that on the flip side has ripped the rug of economic security out from under people who aren’t college educated and living the suburbs
a public health perfect storm crisis of obesity, mental illness and overmedication

If you’re asking why manosphere spaces tend to lean right, it’s because there’s a natural synergy between misogynistic and traditionalist views. Incels come in all political views but it’s the right leaning forums that are going to indulge their anger at women; the liberal spaces are not. Over time these men become radicalized to the right wing views they’re being exposed to and likely don’t even realize it the stuff they’re repeating conflict with their own personal views.

How often do men here give the standard alt right talking points only to 5 minutes later be advocating for government intervention and solutions that sound a lot more like socialism? How does one reconcile calling themselves a libertarian who thinks the government should subsidize hookers and sexbots?

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2020-04-12T16:47:47+00:00

I'd say I fit into that camp, but there are a bunch of NEETs who would rather just get their welfare check and fuck around.

coffeemugstealer · 2020-04-12T16:55:44+00:00

Today, most of the spending money comes NOT from taxes. Gov spends money by borrowing and deficits.

Correlation = two things happening together, may or may not be causing or influencing each other.

jalapenopancakes · 2020-04-12T19:41:03+00:00

I think there may be a correlation but in my experience it’s been the exact opposite.

Once I shed my super duper far leftist position and moved to center/center right, lost a ton of weight and started accelerating my career, I started getting dates with other attractive center right men.

The obnoxiously left men are usually... not great in bed nor attractive or make good partners.

SteveSan82 · 2020-04-12T16:55:14+00:00

It seems most sexless people are Bernie supporters.

kradient · 2020-04-12T17:37:27+00:00

Fiscal conservatism no. Social conservatism yes. Not only because guys FROM socially conservative cultures struggle when placed in the Western SMP (i.e. India and the Middle East where guys and girls are largely segregated so no one has inter-gender social skills, or China where they killed off half the female babies because dudes rock) but also because sexlessness gives guys a natural segue into traditionalism. I can’t get laid => I wish I was in a society where I could get laid => past societies enforced monogamy and early marriage, so I could have gotten laid back then => our societies should go back to enforced monogamy and early marriage.

zino193 · 2020-04-12T17:38:58+00:00

What the fuck are you smokin 🤣🤣🤣🤣

No man, it's like the guberment...

Conservativism occurs when you fucking make money, when you accumulate wealth, maybe have some kids and you see that the fucking guberment is taking money everything you do. The middle class, by a wide margin pays out their ass for everyone else. ANd it's hard to not resent the kids these days when you built a business off hours of work, and you struggle to keep your people employed in off season. BEcause even when you aren't getting paid and they would take a cut, because they see you aren't getting paid. The guberment however, don't care and he needs to take his piece exactly like a extorsionist because he got people to pay, regardless of how bad your month is, a government employee by definition NEVER has to have a bad month.

Socialists are usually highly educated, work adverse young people that think adulthood is just jumping from daddy' and mommy;s dependency onto the state's dependency. They have never paid more in taxes than recieved in services. They actually depend on public services to maintain their comfort - and yes, having food for free is a fucking comfort even if it's 20 days worth of ramen.

To be clear - I am not talking about properly poor people, people that struggle to actually keep their job. People that aren't qualified, and people that do not live in the boroughs of a very expensive city. Hats off on the people that are actually poor, that the market has no need for them and their skills. And that are extremely difficult to employ because of the amount of labor taxes collected in some states.. Those people do not have time to protest every 2 weeks for the cause of the month. Caviar socialists have nothing else to do, because the ramen is free.

Troy016 · 2020-04-12T17:01:22+00:00

Eh not really

mindsanitizer · 2020-04-12T18:10:23+00:00

Possible. I think the more direct connection is between male sexlessness and lack of support for Feminism.

Feminism is one big appeal to Benevolent Sexism. After not getting laid AND not getting any sympathy for it, men tend to stop yielding to the feminist position on a host of feminist issues, from manspreading to abortion rights.

jkonrad · 2020-04-12T19:26:01+00:00

Judging from the mix at TRP, it does appear that conservatives are having a lot harder time getting laid than libs.

Ballface8020 · 2020-04-12T20:03:27+00:00

GreenSatyr · 2020-04-12T21:42:26+00:00

There is obviously a correlation between people who go to forums which attempt to address sexlessness and social conservatism, but I suspect that's as far as it goes.

wheatbeer510 · 2020-04-12T22:54:50+00:00

What? "Girl struggling with getting laid?"

illegallad · 2020-04-13T00:49:31+00:00

No the fact that some people work hard for their money and notice that a good portion of society is more than happy to do f*ck all all day and basically want to use government to seize wealth from the rich so they don't have to behave like adults is what makes people support fiscal conservatism.

ontherailstoday · 2020-04-13T01:59:49+00:00

I think if a guy struggles with getting laid but not with finding really good employment and setting aside savings, he will tend to favor the conservative viewpoint. Make life harder for those women so one of them will feign attraction, settle and never dare say a thing about how fucked up her whole situation is and how she wishes him dead and spits in his beer every time she has a cold or flu.

If he struggles with getting laid and with finding good employment, most times he's going to favor there being social supports. Even though removing social supports could increase his chances of a job slightly, the chance that he still won't have a job, still won't have a girl, won't even have whatever supports he has been receiving himself, and if he does find a girl who likes him the money situation would make it impossible and she'd go marry some guy with more money (see the above case of the unattractive dude with a good job) presents such a negation of all hope that he would be a fool to go with the conservative viewpoint.

So how many of the guys who struggle with appealing to women also struggle with appealing to employers? I think a lot of the ones who struggle on both fronts do not speak up about both at the same time because once you look like a complete loser people tend not to listen to you about anything. Therefore it is hard to tell. However...those guys are out there. I've known plenty of them.

grand_tiremaster · 2020-04-13T18:33:45+00:00

I have a low libido, integrate with conservative circles, yet I have zero issue with my taxes helping others in need. Children and elderly especially. Libertarians are the ones that hate all that shit.. some of them are very extreme, also.

skizzleshiver · 2020-04-13T21:05:26+00:00

I can’t speak for everyone, but I get laid and I’m fiscally conservative.

Visserman75 · 2020-04-12T17:02:39+00:00

Why are sexually succesfull people so extremely selfish and narcisistic? They already live a much more fullfilling life than people like me ever well, but now they want my money so their kids can go to school and live better lives?

How about go die in a ditch?

illegallad · 2020-04-12T20:12:56+00:00

I've never thought about this - but every incel/ twerp I have spoken to has been conservative. Both fiscally and socially.

I don't think I actually know any liberal incels? Not on here and definitely not IRL.

Title	Do you think there is a correlation between sexlessness and fiscal conservatism?
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Date	April 12, 2020 4:38 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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