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Woman who had sex with 15-year-old violates parole, gets sent to state prison

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November 26, 2020
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Title Woman who had sex with 15-year-old violates parole, gets sent to state prison
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Date November 26, 2020 11:17 AM UTC
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[–]MaxMouseOCX 1125 points1126 points1127 points 5 years ago (80 children) | Copy Link

Majewski said Rohn was kicked out of sex offender treatment because she failed two polygraphs when asked whether she had sex with other minors. She tried to access children while on parole and had sex with a corrections officer, Majewski said.

They actually use polygraphs... TIL

[–]DoucheyCohost 463 points464 points465 points 5 years ago (65 children) | Copy Link

I believe polygraphs are used a lot. They're just not accurate enough to be admissable in court.

[–]MaxMouseOCX 506 points507 points508 points 5 years ago (56 children) | Copy Link

But they're accurate enough to be used for "sex offender treatment" failure of which results in prison time?

... I have conflicted feelings about that.

[–]DoucheyCohost 243 points244 points245 points 5 years ago (38 children) | Copy Link

I believe the violation of her parole came from her trying to access children, not failing the polygraph

[–]MaxMouseOCX 92 points93 points94 points 5 years ago* (36 children) | Copy Link

Is their further evidence pertaining to that? Because the way I'm reading it... They asked her about contacting other children as a question on the polygraph test - failed the test based on that question - then as a result of failing the polygraph was removed from the program which resulted in failing parole conditions thus jail.

She's in jail for failing a polygraph test - maybe the questions outlined as failures by the polygraph test were fact... Maybe not, that's my point.

Edit: maybe it should be read as, she was kicked out because 1) she failed a polygraph 2) she tried to contact minors 3) she had sex with a corrections officer - ie: she was kicked out for those 3 seperate things...

Still interesting they even use a polygraph though... I'm of the opinion they shouldn't.

[–]Bone-Juice 76 points77 points78 points 5 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

"Majewski said Rohn was kicked out of sex offender treatment because she failed two polygraphs when asked whether she had sex with other minors. She tried to access children while on parole and had sex with a corrections officer,"

It sounds to me like she was kicked out because:

  1. She failed a polygraph twice

  2. tried to access children while on parole

  3. had sex with a corrections officer.

[–]MaxMouseOCX 27 points28 points29 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I'd already reread it and came to the same conclusion you did... I've made an edit to my original comment.

Still... Interesting they use a polygraph test at all.

[–]Bone-Juice 17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Still... Interesting they use a polygraph test at all.

IKR I was pretty surprised to see that

[–]Embededpower 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

To me it sounds like those are the questions she is being asked but I could be wrong.

[–]biggb5 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

My understanding is that the polygraph can be used to support or state that further investigation is needed... But it can't be used to say that a person is guilty.

[–]Cgn38 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

So two complete bullshit charges if the officer really was after she was released.

Lets hear the details on the third. The first two bullshits are are really making me question the story of number 2 being violated.

Just stating that it has anything to do with a lie detector makes it suspect. Listing that first is a giant red flag.

[–]MuhammadTheProfit 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I've mentioned this before so I apologize if it seems like I'm spamming the comments. But lie detector tests are used as a loophole for having sex offenders violate probation rules. If they lie and are caught in a lie they can be sent back to prison. Generally only used on more serious sex offenders (at least in my area). I don't remember the specifics but I believe if you fail a lie detector, most agents won't immediately revoke your probation (though some might, they can do whatever the fuck they want). The problem that occurs is once someone fails they will kind of freak out and spill the beans. The tests themselves are generally used as a scare tactic to get them to admit breaking further probation rules. But, as I said, I'm fairly certain if you hold fast to your lie and they are unable to prove it you're good to go. But it does allow them cause to investigate the person

[–]Fifth_in_line 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In sex offender treatment if you fail lie detector test you are asked in a group session with other sex offenders why you failed it. If you don't admit why you failed the test you get kicked out. If you admit why you failed you have to take the lie detector test again. If you fail again you have either another chance to admit the reason or get kicked out. In every case you have to pay hundreds of dollars for each lie detector test. Every sex offender in sex offender treatment has to take at least 1 yearly lie detector test.

[–]Eezyville 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You assume that the failure was due to a lie but that isn't always the case. Could be medication, stress, anxiety. The test doesn't detect lies just a bunch of physiological stuff that don't mean anything.

[–]MuhammadTheProfit 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh absolutely. I was framing it more from an agents perspective. I knew a guy that would load up on a bunch of medications beforehand so his test would be inconclusive

[–]AlwaysWorried27 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

She is monster no doubt about it. But I hope shes not there specifically bc of a failed polygraph. I say this bc I myself was given one 20 years ago and I genuinely and truly answered 100% truthful but 2 showed "deception". I was extremely nervous, have panic attacks all the time, my heart rate is wonky from Graves Disease, blood pressure issues.. so this factors played a HUGE role in the results.

[–]MaxMouseOCX 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Nah... She failed the test, but she had already tried to contact minors and banged some dude working there lol... She was on her way out regardless of the polygraph.

[–]goboks 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I feel like it is worse for a CO to bang a parolee then a parolee to bang a CO. Wtf happened to that guy?

[–]Cgn38 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No one has described the first and the second two are in question.

There is a whole lot of the law fucking over people lately. Lets hear all the details. None of is secret, no?

[–]rtechie1 -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I was extremely nervous, have panic attacks all the time, my heart rate is wonky from Graves Disease, blood pressure issues.. so this factors played a HUGE role in the results.

No they didn't. Polygraph machines literally measure nothing. They are almost literally an empty box, the dials and graph and widgets are literally just for show.

See my higher level post. Polygraphs are literally just a confidence trick.

[–]goboks 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And people think we are so enlightened these days...

[–]AlwaysWorried27 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ehh.. I mean, I guess you could be right. I genuinely wouldnt know if they are simply boxes or not. I'm just basing this off of my own experience with a polygraph test and homicide detectives and what was told to me by them and many other people including 2 lawyers and the DA.

[–]enchantedforrest -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

do you mind if i ask what you took a poly test for? I've always been curious about those?

[–]lastdazeofgravity 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

security clearances is one of the most common ones

[–]Cgn38 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I had a top secret in the Navy and never had one. Never saw anyone else getting one either.

In private stuff I guess? They are honestly viewed as being nothing but a way of calling honest men liars mostly.

Super easy for a dishonest person to beat also...

[–]rtechie1 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I had a top secret in the Navy and never had one. Never saw anyone else getting one either.

I've had a Top Secret SCI. By now the Pentagon knows polygraphs are bullshit so if you make a stink about it (I did) they'll waive them. Also, a LOT of the "red flags" thet used to show up in security clearances (like being gay or smoking pot) aren't a big deal anymore.

[–]enchantedforrest 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah so I have secret.. and one of the reasons I never followed through on any TS positions is because of the potential polygraph test..

[–]AlwaysWorried27 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah, actually was a homicide investigation.

[–]AlwaysWorried27 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well... actually it's a lot more interesting than Navy clearance although I do live 2 miles from Ft Bragg (not the Navy but..). It was for a double (technically triple) homicide. No, I did not kill anyone. My boyfriend at the time planned a robbery with 2 friends. They robbed a small time dealer and his fiance, shot them both in the head and he came to my house right after it happened. He then wanted to drive through the apartment complex to see if cops were there, smh.. they were not there yet. I was 14, he was 17 and the couple was 19 and 21, she was pregnant. It was very fucked up. I testified in 2 trials, first one he was found guilty and sentenced to life. He got a retrial 7 years later based off of the first judge making threats to me to testify. He got found not guilty and now he is out living life, I run into him every few months and avoid him like the plague. The situation ruined my life, I was blasted in the newspaper for weeks, his lawyer had me on the stand for days screaming at me, trying to trick me, it was a shit show. I had to drop out of high school bc everyone called me killer, rumors of me stabbing the pregnant victim in the stomach etc. Oh and to top it off, the male victim, his mom was my middle school teacher so that was fun.

Anyway I typed that very hastily sorry if it rambles and makes no sense. Happened in 2001

Edit to say: he should never have had a trial IMO. The murder/felony rule should've been applied here bc he planned to rob them days before. He claimed his friend was there to just buy weed and he "went crazy and shot them". So that's how he didnt get the murder felony rule sentence.

[–]lastdazeofgravity 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yea, are they going to do a prefrontal lobotomy too?

[–]TheRiverInEgypt 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah polygraphs are entirely unreliable - at most they show that a person was made anxious or nervous by a question.

In a former life, I worked for a national security service (not as anything exciting however, sorry to disappoint) & unlike the US, the nation I worked for had entirely rejected the process except as a psychological tactic on hostile interogatorees .

I received specific training on how to “beat” a polygraph & it essentially boiled down to “they are bullshit, don’t worry about them & you’ll be fine”.

It basically comes down to a placebo effect, if you believe they work, then you will feel anxious about getting found out & have involuntary responses which the test administrator can interpret pretty much however they like.

I was later trained in how to conduct “interviews” & while it wasn’t included in my training some of my colleagues used polygraphs & explained to me that the only value was in unnerving the interviewee & giving the interviewer something seemingly scientific to point to and accuse the interviewee of lying.

Whether or not it was true was irrelevant, the value was in putting the interviewee on the defensive & making them feel like they had to convince you of the truth.

[–]bluewolf37 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I hope the polygraph test had nothing to do with it. As someone who was accused of a horrible deed i don’t know I would have been able to have the correct outcome of a polygraph. My heartbeat was always freaking out hearing any mention of it and one reason was from anger and the other was fear that they thought it was true.

[–]becooltheywatching 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

TBH polygraphs are shit for source. She should've gotten a better system of judgment. That said. She had two other strikes and I aint no bowler but that's an out.

[–]goboks 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I honestly don't understand how her banging a consenting adult is a strike either.

I get why the CO would get in trouble given the job he is in and her status.

[–]becooltheywatching 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's fair. But she's a pedo so she can fuck off regardless.

[–]goboks 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, obviously. But I don't need to read about Hitler banging Eva Braun when going over his crimes. Just seems randomly superfluous.

If anything, makes her more sympathetic.

[–]Darth_ShitlordDarthShitNutts 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would guess that they had evidence of her trying to access children and therefore gave her a polygraph not the other way around

[–]daymanahaha 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nope, it came from being kicked out of the rehab group.

[–]Sup_gurl 18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago* (12 children) | Copy Link

You can’t actually “fail” a polygraph by itself per se. Polygraphs don’t detect lies, but abnormal vital sign changes that are supposedly associated with your answers to the questions, which you’ve already answered on a form prior to the test. It’s the job of the polygraph test giver to use these indicators to try to catch you in lies. If you’ve ever had or watched a polygraph test, it’s not the machine itself that does the work, it’s the interviewer being intimidating and challenging you and grilling you and manipulating you based on any suspicious readings, trying to coerce you into changing your answer, giving inconsistent explanations, or straight up confessing that you lied. The polygraph itself isn’t reliable or scientific, it’s just a tool that’s used to catch people in lies. So I suspect she didn’t simply have “lies detected” by the polygraph, rather they probably caught her in lies by way of the interview itself.

[–]Eezyville 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

This is correct. The polygrapher will ask the same set of questions a few times over. Usually people fail the polygraph because they get psyched out by the polygrapher and admit to the lies. So she most likely panicked, felt guilty, fessed up, and got kicked out of treatment because of it. Its best to give single word answers, never explain, and never admit.

But I'm more curious about what happened to the corrections officer she allegedly had sex with. I'm pretty sure having sex with someone in your custody is against the law because of how much power you hold over them.

[–]Cgn38 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Drink three cups of coffee an hour before the test and put a thumb tack in your shoe. Get offended by something the tester does.

They are a cheap joke to trick stupid people. Theater at best.

[–]goboks -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, like how tf is that a strike against her? You think they'd be happy she was banging a consenting adult instead of statutorily raping a kid.

[–]Eezyville 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You don't understand. They don't want her to have sex with kids....or any other person. They want you banned from sex just like they want to ban you from all drugs when you get a drug conviction because "its a slippery slope". Could be fucking you SO one night and sneaking into a high school the next day because she's on that high.

[–]goboks 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That makes no sense to me. Seems like a great way to get people to reoffend.

[–]Eezyville -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hey you got the correct answer! Thats exactly why its done. The probation and parole office have to justify having so many people on payroll. Makes almost as much sense as lifetime supervision. Just means you're never free.

[–]rtechie1 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You can’t actually “fail” a polygraph by itself per se. Polygraphs don’t detect lies, but abnormal vital sign changes associated with your answers to the questions,

Polygraph machines literally measure nothing. They are almost literally an empty box, the dials and graph and widgets are literally just for show.

See my higher level post. Polygraphs are literally just a confidence trick.

[–]Sup_gurl 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Well they do monitor a handful of physiologic readings. The readings themselves aren’t falsified the machine. It’s just that the readings are utterly meaningless. There is no physiologic response scientifically correlated with lying, so the whole thing operates under a false premise. So I agree with your other comment in its entirety. The machine itself is useless, the readings are meaningless, and the entire purpose is to make people scared enough to be manipulated into being caught in their own lies. It’s pure theatrics, as someone else said. There’s no science behind it. It’s an intimidation tactic meant to weed out people who are stupid, ignorant or weak minded enough to lie on the form and then subsequently admit that they lied. Polygraphs should have no place in society, but they actually succeed in terms of manipulating people into admitting lies, purely because of the patently false public perception that they are “lie detectors”.

[–]rtechie1 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well they do monitor a handful of physiologic readings. The readings themselves aren’t falsified the machine. It’s just that the readings are utterly meaningless.

I suppose that's technically accurate. But it's entirely snake oil. It would be no different than using a thermometer and claiming you can tell someone is lying based on tiny temperature variations.

There is no physiologic response scientifically correlated with lying, so the whole thing operates under a false premise. So I agree with your other comment in its entirety. The machine itself is useless, the readings are meaningless, and the entire purpose is to make people scared enough to be manipulated into being caught in their own lies. It’s pure theatrics, as someone else said. There’s no science behind it. It’s an intimidation tactic meant to weed out people who are stupid, ignorant or weak minded enough to lie on the form and then subsequently admit that they lied. Polygraphs should have no place in society, but they actually succeed in terms of manipulating people into admitting lies, purely because of the patently false public perception that they are “lie detectors”.

1000% agree.

[–]Sup_gurl 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep I think we’re totally on the same page!

[–]MuhammadTheProfit 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I had an acquaintance going through this that would take a bunch of drugs beforehand and get his results as "inconclusive" every time

[–]XxDrummerChrisX 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree. It’s so easily defeated and beyond that holds no evidentiary value. There are definitely better ways.

[–]goboks 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's nothing to even defeat except your own lack of will power.

[–]goboks 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They should've thrown her in a river and if she didn't drown, they would have proof she is a witch.

[–]Rick-powerfu 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So like that somehow violates parole

But that can't be used as evidence in court if she appeals this right?

[–]throwaway24515 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Can't be used in court. Most often polygraphs are used to put pressure on suspects to get them to confess to things. You can see this in American Murder: The Family Next Door for example.

[–]Aedalas 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's a great example in this documentary. Starts at around 1:40 or so.

[–]rtechie1 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Polygraph tests are 100% completely fake pseudoscience / scam. They literally measure nothing.

The way polygraph machines "work" is a confidence trick. The operator convinces the subject that he has a magical machine that can tell when someone is lying and then TRICKS the subject into making admissions. For example, they ask the subject "Have you ever stolen anything?" and because almost everyone has stolen some small thing at some point if the subject says "no" the operator will accuse them of lying until they make the admission. The operator then gets the subject to make other admissions ("Have to ever done drugs?") and uses those admissions to blackmail the subject into making other admissions.

Critical to how polygraph machines work is that the subject must want to PLEASE the operator. An uncooperative subject could simply give "fuck you" as every answer or random gibberish and that completely defeats the trick. But the operator will fail the subject for not PLEASING them.

One can see the obvious problem here. Since the polygraph doesn't actually determine truth, but really just determines if the subject tells the operator what he wants to hear, "passing" is based entirely on operator bias. That's why prosecutors usually get "subject is guilty" from tests and defense attorneys get "subject is innocent".

The "e-meters" used by Scientology are literally polygraph machines. Do you believe Scientology isn't a scam? As per the above discussion, e-meters are used to get Scientologists to make admissions that are then recorded for blackmail purposes.

[–]goboks 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah fuck, that reminds me I'm running low on thetons.

[–]Cold_Rolled_Dovah 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Polygraphs are used a lot, but I would doubt they solely violated her based on the results of the polygraph. It would most likely be the resulting interview post polygraph and admissions made during said interview. They give the interviewer a lot of leverage and it really helps them to know which questions to ask next to get important information from the subject.

[–]Hadamithrow 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They're fake. That stuff is all complete bogus. Failing a polygraph test doesn't mean anything at all.

[–]gamingdevil 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I saw on a documentary that the way to beat a polygraph is to clinch your asshole when being asked the initial baseline questions, then relax it when you lie and such. Supposedly, doing that raises your blood pressure so when you do that when you tell the truth you seem relaxed even when you're lying.

[–]Comfortable_Ad_1128 14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What I didn’t get is that it said she enrolled in February and they kicked her out in November. It took that long to take a polygraph?

[–]Fifth_in_line 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In sex offender treatment lie detector test are normally given after a sex offender either admits to a violation of their conditions, completes their sexual history, or yearly based on when they started treatment.

[–]JaqenHghaar08 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Amazing. Just amazing. Minors, correction officers , this woman is like a sex tornado fucking everything in her path.

She's like the ash Ketchum of fucking. Gotta fuck em all!

[–]Asteroth555 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

She fuckes a corrections officer too why are we glossing over this wtf

[–]Brusanan 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because in that case she is the victim as he is in a position of authority over her.

[–]MrHolte 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Who I hope has been fired.

[–]Fifth_in_line 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, I believe most state's sex offender treatment providers use polygraphs as a way to scare offenders into being honest. The offender has to pay hundreds of dollars for each polygraph. They take polygraphs if found to have violated a condition of their agreement, finished their sexual history document, or yearly from the start of their first group session. If they fail a polygraph their have a chance to admit why they failed. If they admit why they failed they have to take the polygraph again and pass. If they fail again they either get another chance or get kicked out of treatment. Failing a polygraph and not admitting why is an automatic discharge from sex offender treatment. Admitting to a violation normally also come with a punishment of some kind. Added sentence, more sex offender treatment sessions (which means more money to be payed), revocation of probation/parole, or jail time (as in having to go to jail for weeks, months, etc.).

[–]nobodytoldme 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think they use polygraphs to trick people. Tell them they know they are lying and get them to spill on themselves.

[–]mellotronworker 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's exactly the second thing I noticed

[–]DiscourseOfCivility 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

had sex with was raped by a corrections officer

A prisoner can’t consent to sex with an officer. Having sex with an inmate as an officer is a felony.

[–]thotinator69 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Let this freak be free

[–]bbnn22 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

she had raped other minors.

FTFE

[–]MaxMouseOCX 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No... It doesn't say that.

[–]bbnn22 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No shit, that's why I wrote "Fixed that for everyone".

[–]Solid-Perspective98 448 points449 points450 points 5 years ago (30 children) | Copy Link

Former District Attorney John Morganelli said she got county prison rather than state prison because she’s a woman and the victim is male. Majewski agrees. Morganelli is now a judge.

🤔

[–]Comfortable_Ad_1128 302 points303 points304 points 5 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link

I’m sure women will be protesting in the streets to get rid of this inequality. They want equal rights don’t they?

[–]Genkigarbanzo1 60 points61 points62 points 5 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

Well only for better

[–]bubbaking 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Their response would be “well I don’t see YOU out protesting it”

[–]d41d8cd98f00b204e980 38 points39 points40 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No, most of them only want the upsides, none of the downsides.

[–]gunsmoke132 26 points27 points28 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not just women. Other groups of ppl too. But if you point it out you're a "biggot/sexist/racist" doesn't matter who you are or identify as, agree with me or get out of the way. This society is depressing.

[–]Skandi007 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oppression olympics, I like to call it.

[–]Solid-Perspective98 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Probably not anytime soon unfortunately.

[–]KillhappyJenn 30 points31 points32 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Morganelli said in February the case cries out for state prison. He called Beltrami’s sentence of one to two years plus eight years of probation “woefully inadequate.”

“I can’t think of any case where we had a male offender and a young girl who’s that age, that they would be getting so easily off the hook,” he said in February. His appeal for a stricter sentence is pending before Pennsylvania Superior Court.

[–]SleeplessinOslo 120 points121 points122 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Morganelli said in February the case cries out for state prison. He called Beltrami’s sentence of one to two years plus eight years of probation “woefully inadequate.”

“I can’t think of any case where we had a male offender and a young girl who’s that age, that they would be getting so easily off the hook,” he said in February. His appeal for a stricter sentence is pending before Pennsylvania Superior Court.

She actually received the pussypass, but decided to ignore it.

[–]lastdazeofgravity 27 points28 points29 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

man this is so fucked up. why are women treated so differently? it's like we are now in a caste system with men at the bottom. they are nothing special. their shit stinks just as bad as anyone else.

[–]TheFakeJoel732 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bro idfk I'm a woman and I dont understand this shit either and it's annoying knowing alot of woman can do terrible things and get off the hook. Especially that shit where girls can hit men and people dont give a fuck.

[–]hoddap 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

/r/pussypassignored ?

[–]snuffy_tentpeg[S] 1225 points1226 points1227 points 5 years ago2 (130 children) | Copy Link

Woman who raped had sex with 15 year-old violates parole, gets sent to prison.

[–]fondlefoo1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (10 children) | Copy Link

I've emailed the guy who wrote the article asking them to correct it.

[–]Devidose 48 points49 points50 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

He may not be able to from a legal standing, which is often why articles are written like this.

Doing so otherwise means a lawsuit for libel despite what the situation was because of how the law decides on what is and what isn't defined as rape.

Yes this does mean some can use such reasoning to "get away" with writing articles like this intentionally however those who are just reporting on a story with zero biases must adhere to the law as written where they are publishing.

[–]rdrunner_74 26 points27 points28 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Extreme example: Only man(*) can rape in the UK

((*)=A penis is needed...)

[+]ctrlaltlama -6 points-5 points-4 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Yeah but that’s a bit debatable, for one all U.K. laws are written as he and then interpreted as he she they, secondly there is sexual assault with penetration that carries the same sentence but covers using objects if any type. You can’t actually anal rape somone in the U.K. for the same reason, they just patched over the outdated law with other definitions.

[–]rdrunner_74 14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

but only one is actually called "Rape"

Rape

(1)A person (A) commits an offence if—

(a)he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis,

(b)B does not consent to the penetration, and

(c)A does not reasonably believe that B consents.

Sexual Offences Act 2003 (legislation.gov.uk)

[–]Fofalus 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The point bring women in the UK can not be rapists full stop. Sexual assualt is vague and covers many things but rape us very specific. This causes women rapists to be labeled as something not fitting of their crime.

[–]lowtown5 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Did he reply?

[–]fondlefoo1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

No but it's only been 25 minutes.

[–]lowtown5 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't see the time.

[–]handful_of_ants 142 points143 points144 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

thank you for correcting yourself

[–]DJMooray 14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Doubling down on the karma

[–]handful_of_ants 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yessir

[–]explicitlarynx 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you.

[–]JaqenHghaar08 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Amazing. Just amazing. Minors, correction officers , this woman is like a sex tornado fucking everything in her path.

She's like the ash Ketchum of fucking. Gotta fuck em all!

[–]SneakyEnch 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If it was a male on male or male on female the guy would get sent to prison without a doubt. At least here in australia, that is.

[+]AdvocatusDiabli1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (87 children) | Copy Link

Those two aren't necessarily interchangeable. Did she had sex with the 15 y.o. against his will? Then yes, it's a rape. If not, they just had sex.

The thought that 15 y.o. can't consent to sex is preposterous.

Source: I used to be a 15 y.o.

[–]Bronco8484 61 points62 points63 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

It's called statutory rape. Sex with a minor while not being a minor.

[+]Juus1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

In my opinion the phrase statutory rape totally waters down the seriousness of real rape. Having mutual sex with a minor is wrong, but calling it rape is a disrespect to real victims of rape.

[–]kwuhkc 19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I think calling some people REAL victims of rape totally waters down the seriousness of rape in general for all victims of rape.

[–]ar0nic 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not every single case is rape which is why terms such as stat rape and molestation, sexual Coerced, etc exist.

Statutory rape which is absolutely what this falls under is a proper description. I think the punishment here is a little absurd but since she failed a lie detector test and pursued other young adults then being changed to only prison with the same amount of time is a bit lax.

All of these things are terrible to happen to anyone but not every single case is rape in the eyes of the law and that's is a important distinction.

When the age of consent is as low as 14 in some places and both parties consent these qualifiers matter.

[–]kallakukku2 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This convo is lol

[–]jimbojangles1987 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The point is that if the genders were reversed you better goddamn guarantee the word rape would be in big bold letters in the headline but since it's a female adult she gets a pass. You are supporting that and part of the problem.

[–]GardenerInAWar 46 points47 points48 points 5 years ago* (69 children) | Copy Link

A 15 year old CANT consent with a 37 year old....by law. Its called statutory RAPE.

Edit: bet your ass if a 37 year old man had "consensual sex" with a 15 year old girl it would be called rape in the headline, with manipulation and abuse thrown in. Hence the subreddit you find yourself in.

[–]ar0nic -4 points-3 points-2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What if the age of consent is 16 or lower as it is in many places in western countries? What about the places where age of consent is lower and the parents sign off on the relationship.

Not only does this happen it happens a lot.

Then it's not rape or stat rape. And legally there was consent. As crazy as it is it happens.

A 15 to 17 year old can consent in the eyes of the law. You or me not agreeing with it means nothing in the eyes of the law.

[–]snuffy_tentpeg[S] 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The Pennsylvania age of consent is 16 years old. Nobody 15 years of age or younger can legally consent to sexual activity. The Pennsylvania statutory rape law makes the de-facto age of consent in Pennsylvania 18 due to the Commonwealth's corruption of minors statute

[–]Tychus07 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

a minor can say yes sure but that Yes will never hold except in some countries. how about this instead just leave kids alone ? it's easy

[–]AdvocatusDiabli -5 points-4 points-3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm a 36 y.o. and I enjoy my freedom, so of course I stay away of anyone under 18 y.o. Yet that doesn't change the fact that the definition of kid has been stretched out long after the puberty... you know the age of sexual maturity.

[–]king_of_the_potato_p 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Try again.

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24173194

I wonder who's right, a large group of people that have studied and specialized in mental development or a pedo on reddit who wants to diddle kids.

[–]DonQuixBalls 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, I would have also been willing to let certain unscrupulous adults victimize me when I was a minor. They'd have still been rapists though. That's the law.

[–]FallingFist 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just gonna leave this here https://youtu.be/Ikd0ZYQoDko

[–]BigWeenie45 -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Facts, I wanted to bang a few of my teachers, wouldn’t have regretted it.

[–]jimbojangles1987 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Still rape.

[–]The9thDentist1 points 5 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

so it's a win-win for teens then.

bang super hot teacher, face zero consequences if anyone finds out.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If she gets pregnant then the boy can be on the hook for child support despite being a victim of statutory rape.

[–]jimbojangles1987 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No? People dont always come out of these situations with a perfect mental health or a good idea of what a healthy relationship is years down the line.

[–]Keepcomingbackjack1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (14 children) | Copy Link

Its just sex, the 15yr old wasnt forced or coerced. You guys will understand this when you get older, wiser.

[–]Mythandros[M] 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Rape apologists like you make me fucking sick.

[–]handful_of_ants 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

good mod

[–]Keepcomingbackjack1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link

I dont apologize for rape. Rape is forced. This kid wasnt forced therefore its not rape. No harm no foul.

[–]Mythandros[M] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

This KID is legally incapable of consenting. That MAKES it rape.

My god, with an education system churning out morons like you, we're doomed.

[–]Keepcomingbackjack1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

No deary, we all understand what statutory rape MEANS. That doesnt mean it makes sense or is morally correct. Anyone losing years of their life in prison over consensual sex is a travesty of our justice system. AND YES, my sweet jealous little child, this teen boy consented over and over and over again. Think about that as you lay in bed pissed off that this dude got a hot piece of ass and nobody got hurt but the woman (only because of insane people like yourself).

[–]Mythandros[M] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No deary, we all understand what statutory rape MEANS. That doesnt mean it makes sense or is morally correct.

You are clearly a few bricks shy of a load.

The law is absolutely morally correct, it is you who is morally defunct.

Anyone losing years of their life in prison over consensual sex is a travesty of our justice system.

The real travesty here is that you actually seem to believe your own lies.

This makes you morally defunct and incredibly ignorant.

AND YES, my sweet jealous little child,

Lol. You really are an idiot. So now we're up to a morally defunct, incredibly ignorant idiot.

this teen boy consented over and over and over again.

Nope. He was manipulated by someone much older than him. He was incapable of legally consenting. This is something you can't/won't seem to understand. That's a you problem.

Think about that as you lay in bed pissed off that this dude got a hot piece of ass and nobody got hurt but the woman (only because of insane people like yourself).

It's hard for me to believe that people as stupid and malicious as you actually exist.

I also find it hilarious that you call me insane when you are clearly projecting.

This is your final warning. If you continue to post in favor of pedophilia, I will have no choice but to remove you from our sub permanently.

[–][deleted] 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]Mythandros[M] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Goodbye and good riddance.

[–]finger_milk 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I don't understand how it's 2020 and people still don't understand how the law on statutory rape works.

[–]Eezyville 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

your sarcasm game is weak

[–]frfrssr -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Depending how she look, it might have been consensual.

[–][deleted] 256 points257 points258 points 5 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link

Why is it that every time a women rapes a boy, it's labelled as "sex" as if it was no big deal?

Yet when a man looks at a woman for a second these news outlets get out of their way to label it as "rape". Fuck those double standards.

And somehow women have the audacity to claim that this is a masculine society...

[–][deleted] 78 points79 points80 points 5 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

I don't disagree but in society in general if a 30 year old man has a relationship with a girl in her late teens people are "GROSS!!!" or "RAPE!" but if a 30 year old woman has a relationship with a boy in his late teens people are "MILF!" and "COOL!"

So I don't blame the media. Society is fucked is where I'm going with this.

[–]real_smoky 27 points28 points29 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You are not wrong, but media and society influence each other. If media called it rape, society would possibly accept it as rape.

[–]harrisonfire 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice.

[+]Keepcomingbackjack1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (19 children) | Copy Link

Society isnt fucked, its the mental state of SOME of the people living in it. A man can hurt a woman with his penis, a woman cannot hurt a man by sticking his penis inside her willingly. One is sex, the other is rape. I started having sex with a 21yr old when i was 14, all of you freaks would scream it was rape, yet i wasnt harmed by it and enjoyed every year of it til it ended as all relationships based on sex end. I think most people complaining about a woman having sex with a younger man is just people who never sewed their wild oats or are locked into brainwashing from their religions.

[–]SEND_ME_UR_ART1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (11 children) | Copy Link

What's your opinion on statutory rape?

[+]Keepcomingbackjack1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (10 children) | Copy Link

It doesnt exist. Its just statutory sex. IF NOONE IS COERCED OR FORCED INTO SEX ITS NOT RAPE.

[–]KarmeloPanthony1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Pedo

[–]Keepcomingbackjack -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Silly talk, id never have sex with a prepubescent child.

[–]SEND_ME_UR_ART1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link

So it's not wrong for an adult to take advantage of a adolescent mind for sex? That doesn't seem right to me.

Can I get your opinion on age of consent laws as well? At what point is it wrong to engage in sexual relations with someone who is not legally an adult?

[–]Keepcomingbackjack1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (6 children) | Copy Link

How about you explain what harm came from this woman pleasing a younger male? His life will go on with no harm done other than knowing telling his secret ruined her life. The only harm in this situation and most all statutory situations is the people OUTSIDE THE SITUATION trying to inject their own misguided moral codes or values onto others who dont have to live their misguided way. Once you are past puberty and understand what sex is and the negatives that can come with it you can consent to fucking anyone at any age. There is no statutory rape, only stat sex and other busy bodies wanting to control what other people do for no reason other than they hate their own lives.

[–]KingCobraBSS1 points 5 years ago* [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

Once you are past puberty and understand what sex is and the negatives that can come with it you can consent to fucking anyone at any age.

There are people who are 18+ years old that don't understand the negatives. Especially true is the South where idiot parents have protested against sex education in schools.

You have no idea of this kid's state of mind when it comes to anything, not just sex. You're playing "internet psychic" because it suits your FEeLZ.

So why do you have a desire to rape children? You should really go and seek help. I can be psychic too, but the powers from the great beyond also tell me you're going to say I'm wrong for using the exact same BS you did lol.

[–]Keepcomingbackjack1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Simmer down youngin. If this boy consented to sex with this woman then theres no harm no foul. If there is any harm or foul its what you and your kind are making up out of jealousy.

[–]DingusTaargus -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not sure if you're aware, but you're projecting. You're doing the exact same as what you're claiming others are doing. How do you know there was no psychological damage? What are you basing your claims on? Sound to me like you're the one who is really pretending to be an "internet psychic" not to mention being an apologist for someone having sex with a minor. The person you're responding to pointed out that it is illegal. The mentioned the age of consent, and you're pretending to know whether or not anyone consented or has any damage from the situation.

These laws are in place for a reason and frankly, besides projecting about being an "internet psychic", you also sound like a pretend psychologist.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't think you understand what rape is.

[–]mikebenb 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Harm does not have to be physical you redundant fuck!

[–]Keepcomingbackjack1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

Good thing there was no harm mentally or physically in this case, my sweet wittle child.

[–]DingusTaargus 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How can you possibly know that? You claim others are being "internet psychics" for saying there is potential and possibility of psychological harm and at the same time you're claiming to know there wasn't. As I mentioned in another comment, you're just projecting.

[–]mikebenb 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"Good thing there was no harm mentally or physically in this case, my sweet wittle child."

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She whispered in your child aged ear and she dropped you back of at your mum's

[–]Keepcomingbackjack 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

LOL. You honestly trying to make it seem like an older woman pleasing a teen boy is a bad thing?? Theres not one teen boy who would shudder at those words spoken to him by a milf after a sex session.

[–]JackdawsShantyMan 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You see how women are making a thing out of the fact that you can see the outline of that golfer dudes dick while he's on the beach? If it was men writing some shit like that about a woman's camel toe, we'd be labeled perverts.

[–]uruglymike 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

To be fair the article also says she "had sex with" a corrections officer, not "was raped by" a corrections officer.

[–]tgid98 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People usually refer to forceful sex as rape

[–]3choBlast3r 155 points156 points157 points 5 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

LoL also had sex with a corrections officer. Bruh

[–]DrKushnstein 80 points81 points82 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Home girl needs Gatorade to quench that thirst.

[–]BlueBlood75 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Or some Brawndo, the thirst mutilator!

[–]Dwdrummerman 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its what plants crave!

[–]drgreedy911 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

it's got electrolytes

[–]jmw403 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

If true, that's also considered rape.

[–]Gizmo-Duck -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

It may have been consensual.

[–]jmw403 13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

An inmate cannot give consent to sex with an officer just like a student cannot consent to a teacher.

[–]xeba 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

The article said it happened after they were released from prison.

[–]jmw403 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

It happened during her incarceration and she admitted to it after her release. Regardless, corrections officers cannot have relations with people on parole or probation either.

[–]xeba 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Didn't know that! Interesting!

[–]jmw403 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a PREA violation (prison rape elimination act) and is federally applied to all correctional institutions. One of the few good things George W Bush enacted.

[–]WilliamBott 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That doesn't make it rape, though. If she's on parole and a CO has no power over her, it's not rape if she consents.

[–]DJ_Mariano 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

it is still a violation of CO policy

[–]WilliamBott 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Which is not rape, it's a violation of policy.

[–]RubberDongin my butt 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That is horrible...what a horrible human being....why would someone fuck anything that moves? Why? I tried looking her up on facebook...make some sense out of this all....but cant find her.

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Why?

[–]Doomdoomkittydoom 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Corrections officers cannot consent!

[–]jmw403 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Inmates cannot consent to an officer.

[–]Teddyk123 31 points32 points33 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Sooo that corrections officer sge fucked got fired, right?

[–]jeremybryce 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

She claims it was AFTER she was released from the county prison, and on parole and in "treatment."

If true, I doubt they have cause to fire him.

[–]Doomdoomkittydoom 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Then how was it relevant?

[–]Fifth_in_line 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Probably because in sex offender treatment offenders are not allowed to have sex or start a sexual relationship with another adult without the treatment provider's permission.

[–]SKlP_ 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, she RAPED HIM. stop with these news headlines that dont call it what it is.

[–]butt_salamander 126 points127 points128 points 5 years ago (45 children) | Copy Link

Raped. This bitch raped a 15 year old... fucking trash.

[–]Lucid_Thought_5 27 points28 points29 points 5 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

'' The victim looked up to her as a mother figure, according to his aunt. And she had sex with him just rooms away from her own kids, according to Assistant District Attorney Laura Majewski.''

[+]Keepcomingbackjack1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (15 children) | Copy Link

I mean, "hot" is the only word that comes to mind when i think about this situation.

[–]Lucid_Thought_5 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

That's not right

[–]Keepcomingbackjack1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

Im sure to jealous angry women/men its not right. But i could do a poll with every guy i know, include strangers, and still come out with "hot woman has sex with younger boy, not seeing the problem other than it wasnt me".

[–]thisismenow1989 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is rape... Why are you defending rape?

[–]Lucid_Thought_5 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're sort of messed up. That fifteen year old wasn't old enough. He looked up to her. She ruined this child's image of a loving mother figure. He needs therapy

[–]hoddap 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I think the main problem here is that the kid didn't view her in a sexual way. If there's no consent, it's rape.

edit: read another article and that was something the kid's aunt said. I actually can't find anywhere that it wasn't consensual.

[–]AA_Khun 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

your company is just as stinky as you

[–]cheebnrun1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (8 children) | Copy Link

I understand the point that's being made here in this thread, and I believe she should face the consequences, but man, would I have loved to have sex with this lady when I was 15. I was already sexually active, so maybe that makes it different?

[–]Keepcomingbackjack1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. Rape is forced. The dude wasnt forced and nobody got hurt other than the woman who shouldnt face any jailtime at all. That said, if roles were reversed i wouldnt want jailtime for the guy either, as long as the sex was consensual. Its just sex, not like she removed parts of his body and ate it.

[–]cheebnrun1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Nah, a grown man having sex with a 15 year old girl is gross, and that's the point this sub is trying to make. There is a double standard in all of our minds, but it isnt right. But man, my 15 year old perverted ass would have kept it a secret.

Though if this kid was traumatized from it, then he did the right thing.

[–]Keepcomingbackjack1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Im sure the kid wasnt and still isnt traumatized from having his penis pleasured by an experienced woman.

[–]cheebnrun 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its not experience, its attractiveness, and that's the cold hard truth. If this lady was ugly, I would probably be more upset over it. That's fucked up right? But that's how the world is.

[–]bitaminn1 points 5 years ago* [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

I think im getting it... pedophilia is okay now, got it.

[–]Keepcomingbackjack1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Sex with prepubescent kids will always be a big no no. Sex with POST pubescent humans isnt really a big deal, especially if they consented.

[–]bitaminn1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Haha youre delusional. I genuinely hope youre not allowed around kids. If you shared this opinion around someone you knew well, with kids that age, how do you think it would go?

[+]oldyellowtruck -12 points-11 points-10 points 5 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link

You’re changing the definition of the word “rape” and are doing a serious disservice to actual rape victims. You have no idea what went down and to say having sex with someone who is 15 is automatically “rape” (man or woman), which is legal in like half the world or more, is frankly, more disgusting than fucking a 15 year old. Google the age of consent around the world, then tell me those numbers aren’t completely arbitrary. Whomever decided that someone a day under 18 is not capable of giving consent, but will be able tomorrow obviously just wanted to put more people in prison, probably for slave labor.

[–]WellImeanDamn 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

It's not changing the definition of rape when that's the literally a definition that they're going off of AKA statutory rape. What is this take??

[–]oldyellowtruck -4 points-3 points-2 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

When you refer to “statutory rape” as simply “rape”, you are very much changing the definition. There’s a reason the word statutory was in there in the first place, and to leave that word out is to deceive by omission.

[–]WellImeanDamn 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It's a form of rape yes. It's not to diminish the experiences of victims of brutal rape.

[–]karadan100 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

There's no other way though. If the rule was 'when they're emotionally mature enough' how would a court certify any specific person was or wasn't emotionally mature enough to have consensual sex? It'd be a minefield.

They currently at least try to bring context to cases in the current system. The kid was fifteen, not eight. You can bet your ass she'd have gotten more than two years had he been eight.

[–]oldyellowtruck 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So why are these guys calling her a “rapist” as if it’s the same thing as violently raping a woman in a dark alley? The two crimes are not the same nor should they be viewed as such, hence the lighter sentence. Yet these guys want the stigma to be equal. It’s bloodthirsty.

[–]TopShelfWrister 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's predation.

The tools are different. Muscles in one instance, psychology in the other.

The effects are different. Physical and instantaneous in one instance, subversive and insidious in the other.

But it remains predation.

And in this case it is predation of a minor. There is no comparison to be made, because there is no comparison necessary. She committed a form of rape and the discussion need not proceed further lest we start dipping our toes into apologetics.

[–]karadan100 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because of the line I stated. It has to be called statutory rape legally.

[–]M0TIVATE 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

She was clearly in a part of the world where engaging in sexual activity with a 15 year old would earn the label of sex offender, meaning the kid was below the age of consent, so yes - it would be considered rape. Not old enough to legally consent = rape even if it wasn’t forceful.

[–]oldyellowtruck -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

If you want to play with the language like that feel free but you’re just diluting the horror of actual rape when you conflate the two and will eventually find that “rape” has just become a legal term with little meaning rather than the brutal and violent act that it really is.

[–]M0TIVATE 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

It’s literally legally called Statutory Rape.

[–]oldyellowtruck -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Oh NOW we’re suddenly using the word “statutory” as a qualifier. It’s almost like using the proper words for things can be important at times.

“She raped him”.

“She statutorily raped him”.

“She had sex with him”.

Only one of those really makes any sense, and it’s not either of the first two.

[–]TammyShehole 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Take your meds.

[–]oldyellowtruck -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Quit being so salty that your teachers (or probably any other girls in your life) never wanted to fuck you.

[–]TammyShehole 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ow. That hurts. So much. Ouch. Damn.

Take your meds, you looney toon.

[–]LightofNew -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Sorry bro. The definition of rape is sex without consent. By law someone under the age of 18 cannot give consent.

The only exception in my mind are people of the same or similar ages.

[–]oldyellowtruck 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Why would people of similar ages suddenly be able to consent simply because their partner is not yet of the age to be able to give consent and vice versa? That’s absurd. And why is it someone can consent in Georgia at 16 but not until 18 in Florida? Or 17 in Texas, 14 in Mexico and 19 in Turkey? I’ll wait while you do more of your mental gymnastics.

[–]LightofNew -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

The only one doing mental gymnastics is you buddy. Trying to justify your idea of what is and is not rape does not change the nature of the crime.

[–]oldyellowtruck 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

If you can’t honestly answer my above questions it’s not because I’m the one who can’t be reasoned with, it’s because your position has no real foundation.

[–]LightofNew -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

So if murder is legal in one part of the world it should really be legal everywhere 🤷‍♀️

[–]oldyellowtruck 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

That’s a false equivalence (a logical fallacy) and not an honest answer. Are you certain you know how this works?

[–]LightofNew 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

How is it false? Rape is illegal, so is murder. It use to be perfectly acceptable to challenge someone to a duel and out right kill them.

You are only capable of defending your sick opinions by belittling the person you are arguing with and yet can show no credible evidence that you are right.

You would rather exist in a world where even if it is possible that minors are unable to properly consent and will be tramatised for decades to come because of a decision someone far older made for them than a world where you can't fuck a 14 year old.

Tell me which sounds better.

[–]oldyellowtruck 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Me: “Why would people of similar ages suddenly be able to consent simply because their partner is not yet of the age to be able to give consent and vice versa?”

You: “so if murder is legal in one part of the world it should be legal everywhere”

Also you: “can show no credible evidence that you are right”

Now me: “You’re killing’ me Smalls!”🤡😂🤡

[–]justusingredditUSA 88 points89 points90 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

No lie she’s attractive af. (Not justifying) just making observation

[–]GreasyPeter 30 points31 points32 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's a theory that these women often are attractive because they were used to having tons of attention when they were in high-school and maybe college and, as they've got older, men have married off and become less "thirsty" so they're missing that validation. So, what ends up happening is they associate that validation and good feeling with high-school aged boys and when they get attention from those same boys again they become super receptive. I suppose some male pedophiles would have the same complex.

[–]nenonen15902 37 points38 points39 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

she definitely is, shame she's an evil cunt innit

[–]GigantapenisaurusRex 61 points62 points63 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Hot and crazy, the sex is probably dooope

[–]WilliamBott 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah but don't let her find out where you live. Better take her to a motel.

[–]K1ngPCH 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

not if you’re a 15 yo

[–]gr8DooBie 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Word

[–]msgundam972 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was just thinking that she is really pretty. She could 100% find someone to bang that is legal.

[–]burningderp 17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

nice

[–]Sebacles 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Nice

[–]bluemoon772 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Niiiiice

[–]Suspicious_Mustache 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Isnt this pussypass granted. She got parole. And the news articles called it sex rather than rape

[–]no_not_this 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah this whole sun should be pussy pass granted.

[–]hiddenemi 24 points25 points26 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

What’s her @, would let her tiddle my taddle any day

[–]snuffy_tentpeg[S] 23 points24 points25 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Perv gonna perv bro, she don't want a man she wants a boy.

[–]hiddenemi 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is what I like to call a “pro” move, reverse rape! Gotem!

[–]Doomdoomkittydoom -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The corrections officer was like 14 or so?

[–]rjtoca821 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Woman who raped 15 year old .. ftfy

[–]HeyYouShouldSmile 39 points40 points41 points 5 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

No. NO. Rape. She raped him. Jesus

[+]Keepcomingbackjack1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (14 children) | Copy Link

Rape requires being forced or coerced against your will. None of these things happened. Just a dude having sex with a woman. Get over it.

[–]HeyYouShouldSmile 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Stat rape is a thing. Like it or not, it's still sexual abuse

[–]Keepcomingbackjack1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

I dont have to like it or not like it, people will do what people want to do. As long as nobody is getting hurt im fine with it. In this case, the poor woman is being hurt for no reason other than bitchy fat moms and ugly dudes who never get laid being mad that their lives suck and a 15yr old boy got more action than they will in their entire miserable lives.

[–]BeepBeepLikeASheep 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Pedophilia's strong with this one.

[–]HeyYouShouldSmile 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh, I'm caught up now. You're an attention troll. Got it

[–]AndroidsDoDream 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Getting downvoted by angry incels lol

[–]AA_Khun 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

an adult (regardless of gender) having sex with a minor is fucking disgusting and clearly pedophilia. and hence a minor can't give consent to sex, IT'S RAPE. get it right, doofus

[–]crazy4schwinn 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

A minor is not legally able to give consent. Therefore She had sex with a minor without consent. So legally , She raped a minor.

[–]Keepcomingbackjack1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

Not possible. A minor can give consent. Just like i did, and so many others have. Just because YOU never did doesnt mean everyonelse has to live as sheltered and boring a life as you.

[–]crazy4schwinn 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck you. Don’t make assertions about me personally idiot. Eat shit. A minor cannot, by law, give consent. That’s what makes them a minor. Fuck. Go read a book. Statutory rape.

[–]jmw403 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You got fucked as a kid and now think it's okay to fuck kids. Got it.

[–]crazy4schwinn -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Edge lord here! Edge lord here! See nobody cares. Deliberately misunderstand. It probably works for your stupider friends. Not me, sorry Nancy.

[–]893_893 14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I like how they still won't use the word rape if it's a female offender 😂

[–]Keepcomingbackjack1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

Because its not rape. Make sense now?

[–]893_893 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

She admitted to having sex with a minor, that is statutory rape and should be titled as such, and to be quite frank she got off super easy for it anyway which is a shame.

[–]Keepcomingbackjack1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

The shame is she was punished in any way shape or form.

[–]893_893 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So If a man had sex with a 15 year old girl you think he shouldn't be charged with anything? Wtf is that reasoning

[–]thisismenow1989 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He's unwell.

[–]BlackBoxInquiry 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A step in the right direction.

Needed to be state and not county.

A crime is a crime. Gender doesn’t matter, right?

[–]anon0002019 34 points35 points36 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Insert Inevitable ‘bUt ShEs pReTTy’ comment justifying pedophilia

[–]bjarxy 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Probably a case of hebephilia, if you want to be precise. Especially because it seems she's tried to access children again, so...

[–]anon0002019 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You’re right. Ew.

[–]toBtossedl8r1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

On any other sub yes, but not this one.

[–]K1ngPCH 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i’ve seen three already on this thread.

[–]thisismenow1989 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yeah this whole post is littered with people trying to justify her actions. Fucking gross

[–]Slay_Dee 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I've seen many people point out that shes attractive, but nobody justifying her actions. You can objectively find her attractive and still think shes a scumbag.. I mean.. i do myself

[–]anon0002019 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Haha I do too, she’s definitely pretty, but then remembered how gross those comments are in the regular media posts and wanted to make fun

[–]thisismenow1989 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's definitely comments higher up from a couple users completely justifying her actions. But ya, she's pretty alright

[–]iAmWhorehey1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Nice.

[–]lastdazeofgravity -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

/s

[–]Comfortable_Ad_1128 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There’s a lot that don’t make sense with that story.

[–]DevoNorm 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

A better written article:

https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/news/2019/02/no-state-prison-due-to-her-gender-da-calls-mom-sex-offenders-sentence-woefully-inadequate.html

[–]crunchycarlos1 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

“...the 35-year-old stay-at-home mom had sex with a 15-year-old. She pleaded guilty to statutory sexual assault for repeatedly having sex with the boy from January through September 2017 in her home in Hellertown. The victim looked up to her as a mother figure, according to his aunt. And she had sex with him just rooms away from her own kids, according to Assistant District Attorney Laura Majewski.”

She was a “stay-at-home mom” - living on someone’s dime while she raped a kid with her own kids in the house. 🤮

[–]DevoNorm 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She's a real piece of work, that's for sure. And it's strange how women like her could get a new 18-year old just about every day of the week using Tinder. No lack of options for women like her. It's clearly a psychological issue and one the science is still very ill-equipped to understand it, much less treat her condition.

[–]hoddap 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

“The Bonnie Rohn I know is extremely spiritual and she has touched everyone around her not only in the church but outside of the church,” said her friend, Shane Fausey

ahahhahahahahhaha

[–]vtec__ 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

got tired of billy beta the dad. female depravity at its finest.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It should be more, but at least they moved her up to the big leagues. Goddamn pedo

[–]KaptiveKobold 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So rapists get parole now?

[–]lastdazeofgravity 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yea, they are everywhere. everyone around you is just raping and pillaging. raping and pillaging.

[–]SaltySeaman40 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

TIL woman having sex with underaged male is sexual assault. Rape if roles are reversed?

[–]AngCar 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She didn’t “have sex” with a 15 year old. She raped them. Believe it or not a woman can rape.

[–]snuffy_tentpeg[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I elected NOT to alter the publisher's headline to highlight the gross misrepresentation of the facts.

[–]SonOfTK421 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

How hard is it to just fuck consenting adults?

[–]ApertureBear 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I am always hard when I fuck consenting adults.

[–]SonOfTK421 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That changes at you get older. Sometimes all you can ask for is, more or less fully erect.

[–]ApertureBear 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks

[–]ScudstockI'm kind of a smug prick. So... 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Former District Attorney John Morganelli said she got county prison rather than state prison because she’s a woman and the victim is male. Majewski [the current DA] agrees.

What the fuck? And WHO gets a 1 year sentence for being 37 and fucking a 15 year old? How is the fuck is that possible?

[–]Sylvaran 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When pussy pass is not denied heh.

[–]pushing-rope 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Rape. She rapes minors.

[–]M34TST1Q 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I'd have done it and kept my mouth shut.

Bring on the down votes.

[–]Archangel1313 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It was going on for nine months...either someone else figured it out, or the kid just couldn't stop bragging about it. /s

[–]M34TST1Q 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm betting on bragging.

r/kidsarefuckingstupid

[–]Sylvaran 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Probably. Dumbass didn't know he had a good thing going, but then, 15 year olds aren't known for their wisdom eh? lol

[–]MrZimothy 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bye pedo rapist.

[–]FruitierGnome 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The state didn't care she violated a boy.

They cared that she violated their order.

[–]Sir_Flagrant 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its statutory rape. She raped the minor.

[–]TooFastTim 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Raped

[–]softygirly 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

you can’t “have sex” with a 15 year old, you can only rape them. they cannot consent

[–]mucholote 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The face of a sex predator

[–]studoroma 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

15 yrs old me would love to smash that

[–]spetsnaz5658 18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I remember when I was 15 I was banging the 32 year old at work and no one cared. They even made comments calling us a couple. It was pretty cool though ngl. Felt like such a stud back then lol

[–]Somethingnewboogaloo 25 points26 points27 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Lucky you aren't a woman or you would be in therapy now because "looking back on it, I realize that I had been groomed and raped by a sick individual. I am available for speaking engagements and my GoFundMe can be found in my bio."

[–]893_893 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That was me too she wasn't in her tough I was 16 or 17 and she was 28 or 29 I look back and there are so many red flags like the shit shed say to me looking back it makes me really uncomfortable

[–]spetsnaz5658 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah it's funny how they seem to always get away with it. Did anything ever happen or did she just make comments ? Growing up in the 90s I thought it was rare to get with an older woman and as I got older I realized that's not the case. Guys dont usually say anything and no one thinks anything of it. Everyone knew about us and it was perfectly fine to them.

[–]paulwal 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

OMG u got raped!!!!!1

/reddit

[–]br34kf4s7 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

child molester who raped 15 year old violates parole, gets sent to state prison

FTFY

[–]daatss 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh shit I live there

[–]SkidNutz 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

So when a guy does it they get charged per offence and it's called rape, but when this bitch did it for months, who knows how many times, it gets charged with one count and it gets called statutory assault? Burn this bitch at the stake.

[–]TrulyLegitUnicorn 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Woman who had sex with 15-year-old

pedophile*

[–]Rule_Two_ 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You mean raped

[–]joshawoo71 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

*raped

[–]stanwillempie 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

South Park police departement be like "NICE"

[–]Ben-A-Flick 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Woman who raped 15yo

[–]Canadian-shill-bot 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You mean PEDOPHILE who for whatever reason was out on parole violated parole.

The media still continuing to call female pedophiles literally anything else but pedophiles.

[–]Sansthepal 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Isn't that rape?

[–]ApertureBear 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Raped.

[–]No_Dark1998 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She raped a 15 year old... she did not have sex... I hate these titles

[–]Elias_freecss 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

God fucking dammit "Woman who RAPED a 15-year-old violates parole, gets sent to state prison""

[–]icyyellowrose10 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Woman who rapes a 15-year-old

FIFY

[–]KuroChairoNeko 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Raped. I think they meant raped instead of "had sex".

[–]Trimere 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Woman who raped 15 y/o violates parole....

*FTFY

[–]SultanSaatana 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Former District Attorney John Morganelli said she got county prison rather than state prison because she’s a woman and the victim is male. Majewski agrees.

She got a pussy-pass first time round and they are even admitting she got a pussy-pass. She got the book thrown at her for violating parole but she still had the pussy-pass-privilege of getting a second chance.

[–]French_Bulldog 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Woman who raped a child violates parole, gets sent to state prison.

[–]DeeJay-LJ 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Woman who had sex with 15-year-old

You mean raped a 15 year old?

[–]slightlybent1 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s surprising. It’s typically ok to sexually abuse a male child as long as it’s a female doing it. Happens all the time.

[–]kirbyxena 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Spelled rape wrong

[–]knotsbygordium 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's a very convoluted way to say "Child rapist breaks parole, gets sent to prison"

[–]Izzys_lil_world 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

“Woman had sex with minor...” “men raped minor...”

...?

[–]Smlllbunny 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

**raped

[–]SplffyAlex 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Woman who raped a 15 year old*

[–]bloodthorn1990 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

raped

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Rape. She raped him.

[–]moriarty_056 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She’s a truly sick individual.

[–]crazy4schwinn 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. Compulsive sexual disorder. I knew a woman like this. She just wrecked her family. 5 kids with 4 dudes, 8 years in prison, financially ruined her wealthy parents. Man, fuck that whore.

[–]NotGayLewis 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Raped, not "had sex with".

[–]mikebenb 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Former District Attorney John Morganelli said she got county prison rather than state prison because she’s a woman and the victim is male. Majewski agrees. Morganelli is now a judge."

I wonder what r/TwoXChromosomes would say about that disgusting statement!!!

[–]Fantastic_Door_4300 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She's hot

[–]hamiltonmartin 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This bitch a ho

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dammmmn, you know this girl is a freak in the sheets, the crazy ones always are.

[–]tinyeyes10 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Off-topic: she kinda looks like Jules from Psych

[–]JohnnyKay9 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How are we ppd and still get the fucking title wrong. She RAPED a 15 year old boy.

[–]JerichoCrusher 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They spelled statutory rape wrong

[–]BurningOrangeHeaven 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She's going to be getting banged in state prison too.

[–]almostgraduatingsoon 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The title is wrong, it should be: Woman who RAPED a 15 year old violates parole, gets sent to state prison.

[–]SlumpyNuudles 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

After all that, still only gets 1-2 years.

[–]asdf333aza 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Woman who had sex with 15-year-old

Stop calling it sex and call it rape the same way you would if it was a guy violating a 15 year old girl.

[–]Jakethecake010 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm disappointed that she won't show up on sex offender shuffle 2 now

[–]WesternCanadian 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Niice

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Where I'm sure the other inmates treated her well. Everyone knows how much prison inmates love pedophiles

[–]urmoms-hairy-anus 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

10/15 would bang.

[–]VanDammes4headCyst 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's crazy to me that such a beautiful woman who could get just about any legal dude she wanted or as many legal dudes she wanted, would do this type of shit. Mental illness probably.

[–]Sylvaran 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No doubt. She doesn't even need the "2 AM vision" effect, she's pretty attractive. Maybe the taboo part was the exciting factor for her.

[–]Rad0555 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Do you think she would send me nudes if I said I was 15?

[–]trouble-w-tribbles 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

First they violate the kids, then they violate the paroles

[–]mikebenb 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Did I say they would? Did I say I would have refused? If I'd been in your possition?

[–]BNHAisOnePunch100 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s disgusting that women can rape a child and get parole

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I dunno... if she were to have taken an interest in me when I was a young-in, I wouldn't be all that upset or traumatized... just sayin. Now, don't get me wrong. If she looked and acted like rosie O'Donnell, I'd be down to the local pig pen filing charges, just for looking at me funny...

[–]alexdiezg 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's spelled

rape

[–]cripplingmango 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

1-2yrs for sexual assault!?!

[–]GarrettFerrell83 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This shit confuses the hell out of me,I mean,she is a pretty hot.it’s not like she would’ve had any trouble at all finding adult men who would fuck her..it’s not just her either,I’ve seen plenty other hot women(in many cases teachers) who end up going to prison for the same shit..there is absolutely no excuse for this type of shit to ever happen..it’s not like they can’t get on their Facebook,check their messages and have at the very least 20-50 thirsty ass men begging for their attention..these disgusting women are obviously just on some pedo shit with a weird fetish for fucking children

[–]ThrowthisawayPA 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She’s a pedophile she doesn’t want men her age

[–]Nikola_tesla_model_y 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wish I could get adult women like that when I was 15 year old

[–]CATPISS_ENTHUSIAST 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You love to see it

[–]Sunny_Reposition1 points 5 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Is it really hard to just not have sex with minors while you're on parole?

[–]snuffy_tentpeg[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Apparently it is.

[–]Lynnm225 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

*raped

[–]Whorinmaru 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

... She kinda cute tho

[–]soulessgingerlol 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You mean "woman who raped" 15 year old..

[–]WafflePress 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Woman who raped 15 year old

FTFY

[–]ba5icsp00k 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What a disgusting rapist

[–]unxile_phantom 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

RAPED. THE CHILD WAS RAPED. Seriously, these news outlets really need to start calling female rapists what they are. Rapists.

[–]AM1492 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Where were these ladies when I was 15???

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Lucky lad

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

why are these crazy ass bitches always so cute?

[–]nine9ten10 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So whenever a random woman offers sex, you push her off. We are better off without her. Even if you're a virgin.

[–]pimpmafuwa 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ahhh to be 15 again.

[–]yungmartino49 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Say it with me!

R

[–]Lucid_Thought_5 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

A

[–]hunnerbunner2000 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

P

[–]DRealRonWeasley 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

E

[–]LunchBox98 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s a weird way to spell rape

[–]Professor-Wheatbox 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

aLl MeN aRe RaPiStS

[–]shunislo 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck I wish I was 15

[–]george1421 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What a waste. She’s MILF material.

[–]Archangel1313 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't stick your dick in crazy, son. She sounds kind of fucked up.

[–]chucho89 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why couldn't I have professors like this when I was 15 :-(

[–]PDX2021 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wish it was me

[–]gunsmoke132 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I've never understood this, they almost always hot as hell. Like why tf do degenerate to being a pedo? Like, the majority of male pedophiles are nasty looking and they exploit kids because that's their only way but just why? People are weird as hell.

[–]ApertureBear 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Fact: pedophilia is not related to your physical appearance. It is a mental sickness.

[–]gunsmoke132 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Idk I think it's like depression. Where there's two different sides to it. But I suppose you have a point

[–]thenwhat 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

NGL. She's kinda hot. 15 year old me would be down.

[–]EternalPlunge 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. Am 15. Would be down. Still fucked up on her part tho

[–]sf_baywolf 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This ho looks like Pam morphed with Angela from the Office.. Pamgela...?

[–]truthseeeker 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Former District Attorney John Morganelli said she got county prison rather than state prison because she’s a woman and the victim is male". It's rarely this clear cut, but here it is.

[–]MiloFrank 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Woman who raped a 15 head old, sent to state prison.

FIFU

[–]Mindful-O-Melancholy 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wonder what her occupation was, she kind of looks like the teacher type. It’s pretty crazy how many of the people like this that prey on underage kids are often teachers. Maybe it’s from being around them all the time, but is it really worth risking them losing their jobs and going to prison for temporary satisfaction? It’s not like they think they won’t get caught, it happens all the time. Maybe a lot of people just have impulse control issues.

[–]daytripper7711 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is where I live!

[–]seno76 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Pennsyltucky strikes again

[–]Fanboysblow 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She should really put her addiction to good use and either become a whore or consider having casual sex with adults only.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

State: Lets criminal out of jail

Criminal: Commits more crime

State: NANI?

[–]Byroms 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

*who raped

[–]stinkybasket 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The word you are looking for is "raped" and not had sex with.

[–]mikeym364 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's almost once a week a news report comes out about a woman raping an under-age boy. It's absolutely disgusting. There would be an uproar if this was the other way around.

[–]Archangel1313 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Or if the victims would only stop high-fiving each other. /s

[–]parsons525 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If it’s “rape” when a 15 year old boy has sex with a woman over 18, then what’s the word for the thing we used to call rape?

[–]Archangel1313 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This was "statutory rape", as opposed to what you used to call rape. /s

[–]parsons525 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Everyone is calling it rape. Straight up rape. Like he said no and she forced him.

Total BS calling it rape.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Face it fellas we’re second class citizens in modern times. No one views us as the victim it’s worthless to try.

[–]Jihad_Me_At_Hello_ 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And the article flat out says, at least in part, that she got local jail as opposed to state prison cuz she's a woman. That's fucked up IMHO

[–]GuizarC 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don’t you mean raped?

[–]nachobusiness101 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Rape. She raped them. None of this "she had sex with" bullshit

[–]JamPantstheFif 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Pedo

[–]JaqenHghaar08 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Majewski said Rohn was kicked out of sex offender treatment because she failed two polygraphs when asked whether she had sex with other minors. She tried to access children while on parole and had sex with a corrections officer, Majewski said.

Amazing. Just amazing. Minors, correction officers , this woman is like a sex tornado fucking everything in her path.

She's like the ash Ketchum of fucking. Gotta fuck em all!

[–]OneEyedBobby9 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

On Hulu that’s a new series.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wanna die.

[–]TheFaggot23 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why did she get parole?

[–]SDSUAZTECS 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What offbrand website is this?

[–]positroniks 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She will get out in two months, but should rot in Hell

[–]the-new-apple 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dang she fine tho.

[–]GeekBoyWonder 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Raped. Raped a 15 year old.

[–]RemeizSivart 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

*Raped 15-year-old. Don’t sugarcoat it

[–]johnny_cashmere 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"Nice" -Southpark

[–]ApertureBear 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Idk why you're being downvoted. The whole joke in that episode is how absurd the "nice" response is to this situation.

[–]Grytnik 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Murica

[–]oOAzDOo 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

How do you "rape" someone for 9 months? (January to Sept. 2017)?? It may have initially been rape but I am thinking that a 15-year-old adolescent boy would want to keep smashing, her. At that point, it would be sex with a minor. And by rape did she slip him a roofie or something? She definitely has issues but are we missing some narrative here?

Let's be real...I mean if I was a 15-year-old pimple faced boy with raging hormones and she came up to me and said - hey do you want to smash - I'd say fuck yeah.

[–]krakenkane 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Because a 15 year old brain is not normally able to to make complicated decisions, such as consent to sexual activities which can and may involve emotional, health, financial, and physical implications. Add to this the physiological issues with a 15 year old being propositioned by an attractive person, which tends to cloud judgment. Not to mention that the older person is in a position of authority, which also tends to make the subordinate agree to things that they normally would have.

Now, as an adult... Would smash.

[–]NECRAZ11 points 5 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

In my country (CZ) it's legal since 15. In Japan maybe even less. Having sex or not isn't that complicated decision TBH. We just obey laws of our countries. I think that my country even planned to go to 14 but more conservative parties said no.

I wonder how did you find out that 15 y.o. brain isn't able to do sex decisions.

[–]krakenkane 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3621648/#:~:text=The%20fact%20that%20brain%20development,development%20of%20the%20prefrontal%20cortex.

Many, if not all studies have shown this.

It is a complicated decision. What is this going to do to their school relationship? What is this going to do to her career? Did he think about STIs? What about financial responsibilities if she carries a child? Is she taking advantage of her position? Etc.

[–]BigWilly4frickin20 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What a babe

[–]AceValentine 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice!

[–]JJagaimo 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So she gets out of jail after an indequate couple of years and they check if she is violating people with a polygraph? You know, they thing that doesn't actually tell you if someone lies and you can't "fail"? And her CO is fucking her which is also rape so there's that too. Regardless of the crime, from a legal standpoint I think both of these should be inadmissible

[–]sockmess 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, hate to admit, but the CO is supposed to have the power so they are the ones who say no regardless of the student or client really wants it. That CO though probably lost their job though.

[–]killer8424 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice.

[–]Archangel1313 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So...part of treatment is that you have to admit to other crimes? Isn't that a violation of her 5th amendment rights?

For clarity: I'm not defending her actions...just wondering out loud if this is considered "fair game" given the fact that it does seem to violate the 5th.

[–]RockBlesnar1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link

That is one lucky kid. What a beautiful woman

[–]ApertureBear 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

You have a disgusting brain.

[–]RockBlesnar1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

Fucking a teacher or any sexy older woman like the one in the picture is every horny 15 year olds dream. We also swap saliva and lick eachothers cock and pussy juices so yeah, most humans are kind of disgusting.

[–]ApertureBear -5 points-4 points-3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No, just you. You're disgusting.

[–][deleted] 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]ApertureBear -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have never been so horny I wished someone would rape me. You clearly are stuck in that state, because your brain is bad.

[–]yobarisuschatel -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

“This is not a crime” episode 7

[–]thisisan0nym0us -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When the rapist is a hot female it’s okay

[–]DavosHS -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She looks like Clark from The 100. Uncanny resemblance.

[+]dnekuen -14 points-13 points-12 points 5 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

President Harris will pardon her immediately. Rest assured, it's the biden legacy to come.

[–]ynos8110 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

If anyone is pardoning criminals it's not Mrs Harris.

[–]dnekuen 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago* (15 children) | Copy Link

You know every president pardons criminals, right? You can't pardon someone unless they've committed a crime(even a speeding ticket), look up every single presidential pardon. The thing we know is that biden loves to molest kids, so those will most likely be the people his successor pardons after he steps down as president.

You don't need to take my word for it though. Do you trust your own eyes? https://youtu.be/0FmGkKh4Qk0

edit: curious /u/ynos8110 who did you think received presidential pardons? Non criminals?

[–]cheebnrun1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

It has to be a federal crime. A president cant pardon a crime against a state.

[–]dnekuen 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sure, but she has 8 years of probation and was just changed from county charges to state while also admitting that she has no control of herself. I'm just assuming the math will be right and she will offend again within a few years.

[–]ynos8110 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Chill. You are the one who singled her out when she's not even in office yet, I just pointed out the elephant in the room you seem to be blatantly ignoring. Whether the next administration will pardon criminals is yet to be seen. Maybe you are right, maybe you are not, but there are OBVIOUS current examples that you could have used to make your point.

[–]dnekuen 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I'm fine, I just know that presidents usually pardon the people that did the same crimes they did. It's pretty old news.

[–]cheebnrun1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (8 children) | Copy Link

Oh, you mean like Trump with Michael Fynn and Roger Stone. Also Joe Arpaio and others.

[–]dnekuen 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Yes, lying is a common crime. Did you have a point?

[–]cheebnrun1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (6 children) | Copy Link

No, it was your point

[–]dnekuen 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

can you point out where?

[–]cheebnrun 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

https://www.reddit.com/r/pussypassdenied/comments/k1divv/woman_who_had_sex_with_15yearold_violates_parole/gdo8269

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You lack any sorta logic bud

[–]dnekuen 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

True, only a non-criminal can be pardoned of a crime, right?

[–]teriaksu 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

lay off the meth dude

[–]dnekuen 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What makes you say that? https://youtu.be/0FmGkKh4Qk0 ?

Are you saying this video I just linked doesn't exist, or are you saying it doesn't show a elderly man molesting children, repeatedly?

[–]teriaksu -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I should be offended that you called out my nationality, right?
And you're calling me a kid, right? That makes sense to you?

I didn't mention politics, I just mentioned your obvious meth addiction. Do yourself a favor, lay off it.

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Oh and fuck your cult leader sideways

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