You literally can't win.

stevee05282 · 2019-09-07T21:35:49+00:00

What the fuck??

Dutch_Windmill · 2019-09-08T00:57:12+00:00

Sometimes being a man your only two options are to lose and that's fucked

TC1827 · 2019-09-08T01:18:22+00:00

Jailed for criticizing a judge??? I am in law school and I'm pretty sure that goes against the Principle of Rule of Law. If criticizing a judge is a crime...

http://chng.it/9hm4FRZRxd

Petition to remove the judge

GlobalTransition88 · 2019-09-08T00:54:21+00:00

Imagine sitting in a jail cell right after your kid dies. Just sitting there with nothing to distract you from your child's death.

QueefofPolice · 2019-09-08T01:53:06+00:00

Surprise. A female judge felt threatened and he was charged despite lacking evidence of threat. When he was released, he made more comments on social media and was re-arrested for violating his bond. This country is fucked. Link to the story.

Wedemboyys · 2019-09-08T02:24:57+00:00

From one of the articles posted in this thread:

“Jonathan Vanderhagen and other controversies over male parental rights

Some advocates of male parental rights argue that systemic injustices against fathers exist in the legal system. These groups at times overlap with the controversial MRA movement, whose members say that feminist and progressive pushes for equality have resulted in systemic injustices against men and fathers.

As evidence, they point to cases such as Vanderhagen’s and the one involving Phoenix attorney Ruby Torres.

In March, the Arizona appeals court ruled that Torres could impregnate herself with embryos she and her ex-husband had preserved during their marriage. Despite his objections to the plan, the ex, John Terrell, could even be required to pay child support.”

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What the fuckkkkkkkkkkk

Izaran · 2019-09-08T01:37:22+00:00

Let’s see...he’s got...

A 1st, 5th, and 8th Amendment case right off the top. Likely 4th and maybe 6th too.

This is some bullshit.

Dieabeto9142 · 2019-09-08T01:24:11+00:00

How did he get jailed for criticizing the ruling, if anything the gaurdian ad litem should be in jail for letting the judge believe the mother was a capable parent.

Evilcon21 · 2019-09-08T02:23:28+00:00

Wait is that even possible to be jailed for simply criticising the judge? I think the judge should be removed from power.

Super-Speed- · 2019-09-08T03:12:19+00:00

This is horrible. This is sexism on the largest level.

What happened to the mother, nothing?!? Yet feminist think this is ok.

I hate modern day idiocy.

StreetShame · 2019-09-07T21:29:19+00:00

🤡🌎

rickepic · 2019-09-08T02:25:46+00:00

I have to leave this sub every post I see infuriates me against feminist

boringcarpets · 2019-09-07T21:54:22+00:00

Any chance of this sub linking the actual article?

sourkid25 · 2019-09-08T01:18:32+00:00

I remember seeing the mom's Facebook it was pretty sad

Hamza2698 · 2019-09-08T03:31:57+00:00

There's no contempt of court here. The Judge is abusing her power. That poor guy. Lost his son and now false arrest. Damn

pumpers-like-to-pump · 2019-09-08T02:03:11+00:00

There’s a go fund me page. Help him out

TC1827 · 2019-09-08T03:27:50+00:00

http://chng.it/9hm4FRZRxd

Petition to remove this judge

Criket · 2019-09-08T03:19:39+00:00

What else expected from a feminist judge.

WarOfNoise · 2019-09-08T02:12:37+00:00

source https://www.wxyz.com/news/region/macomb-county/grieving-dad-jailed-for-repeatedly-criticizing-court-system-in-macomb-county

2019-09-08T03:25:06+00:00

How is the judge not in jail? Why would I follow laws that mean absolutely nothing if this is how it works?

MisPlacedNeuroBlue · 2019-09-08T01:48:06+00:00

Judge was a clam ...correct?

Anforas · 2019-09-08T11:06:34+00:00

Worth what it's worth, but here's a comment someone left on the article: https://pluralist.com/jonathan-vanderhagen-jailed-judge/

This is sloppy reporting which is based on a Channel 7 WXYZ DETROIT story. That reporter was forced to retract and amend her story to indicate that Judge Rancilio NEVER heard this case after I sent her this message :

Kim -

Just saw your story on the gentleman locked up for “complaining” about the friend of the court and Judge Rancilio.

I was wondering if you sought out Judge Rancilio for comment before your story went to air? Or the prosecutor? Or the Judge assigned to the case? Or the other judge who heard the bond appeal? I’m guessing not.

Did you see Mr. Vanderhagen’s Facebook posts (before they were taken down) consisting of 45 minute video rants about Judge Rancilio and that she will get her judgment day while he held a shovel with her name on it? I am guessing not.

Did you see Mr. Vanderhagen’s posts (before they were taken down) where he once again said Judge Rancilio would receive her judgment and that he “knew what he had to do” and then posted pictures of Judge Rancilio’s kids and family? I’m guessing not.

Did you know he was granted a low bond and told to stop it and continued to do such posts and then and only then was his bond raised, then appealed, and affirmed? I’m guessing not.

Did you even know that this misguided gentleman NEVER EVEN APPEARED in front of Judge Rancilio yet he somehow blames her for his son’s death? That would have easily been discovered by spending 10 minutes on the county website. I’m guessing you did not know and that you didn’t take these ten minutes. Did you know that this case was heard by a referee, which is normal, and then he had 21 days to object to the referee’s decision, but BEFORE he could, his child sadly passed? As such, Judge Rancilio NEVER even had the chance to hear this case, never heard it or even saw the father. She literally had NOTHING to do with it. You FAILED to report THIS.

I’m wondering how you would feel if someone irrationally blamed you for their child’s death, and then said your judgment day is coming while he holds a shovel with your name on it and then posts pictures of your children and family.

I’m not a journalist but it seems that maybe these facts would have been pertinent to this story so it doesn’t just come out as one sided sensational trash.

Just a thought -

AxalonNemesis · 2019-09-08T05:45:22+00:00

What the fuck.

Fuck those cunts.

It_is_not_that_hard · 2019-09-08T11:33:10+00:00

Allegedly this post omits some nuance. For that i have to dislike.

Here is a post i read on the article, feel free to check if it is verifyable.

Chris Cell2 comments4 votes0 followersFollow Full Profile Chris Cell16h

This is sloppy reporting which is based on a Channel 7 WXYZ DETROIT story. That reporter was forced to retract and amend her story to indicate that Judge Rancilio NEVER heard this case after I sent her this message :

Kim -

Just saw your story on the gentleman locked up for “complaining” about the friend of the court and Judge Rancilio.

I was wondering if you sought out Judge Rancilio for comment before your story went to air? Or the prosecutor? Or the Judge assigned to the case? Or the other judge who heard the bond appeal? I’m guessing not.

Did you see Mr. Vanderhagen’s Facebook posts (before they were taken down) consisting of 45 minute video rants about Judge Rancilio and that she will get her judgment day while he held a shovel with her name on it? I am guessing not.

Did you see Mr. Vanderhagen’s posts (before they were taken down) where he once again said Judge Rancilio would receive her judgment and that he “knew what he had to do” and then posted pictures of Judge Rancilio’s kids and family? I’m guessing not.

Did you know he was granted a low bond and told to stop it and continued to do such posts and then and only then was his bond raised, then appealed, and affirmed? I’m guessing not.

Did you even know that this misguided gentleman NEVER EVEN APPEARED in front of Judge Rancilio yet he somehow blames her for his son’s death? That would have easily been discovered by spending 10 minutes on the county website. I’m guessing you did not know and that you didn’t take these ten minutes. Did you know that this case was heard by a referee, which is normal, and then he had 21 days to object to the referee’s decision, but BEFORE he could, his child sadly passed? As such, Judge Rancilio NEVER even had the chance to hear this case, never heard it or even saw the father. She literally had NOTHING to do with it. You FAILED to report THIS.

I’m wondering how you would feel if someone irrationally blamed you for their child’s death, and then said your judgment day is coming while he holds a shovel with your name on it and then posts pictures of your children and family.

I’m not a journalist but it seems that maybe these facts would have been pertinent to this story so it doesn’t just come out as one sided sensational trash.

elmashoxd · 2019-09-08T06:09:53+00:00

Basically

Children: exists with mother (dies) Dad: complains (gets sent to jail) Mother: my son died lmao

onbakeplatinum · 2019-09-08T03:26:26+00:00

But how did the kid die?

Spider-Man222 · 2019-09-08T02:19:38+00:00

I really hope someone charges that asshole judge and I hope that shitty mother gets jailed too. Poor dad

HNutz · 2019-09-08T03:22:44+00:00

Ugh.

Fucking disgusting!

_bowlerhat · 2019-09-08T06:27:37+00:00

what a shit cunt. impeach this corrupt judge.

2019-09-08T09:54:39+00:00

Fuck feminazis, this is exactly what happens when you give them power. There won't be equality. There will be gender wars.

degenerate661 · 2019-09-08T01:55:18+00:00

Is there an article?

cali1013 · 2019-09-08T04:25:01+00:00

Hope the judge gets her karma. Everything that goes around comes around!

Mjhwl05 · 2019-09-08T04:45:22+00:00

This kinda shit makes me want to end my life so I don’t have to worry about this happening to me.

sjwking · 2019-09-08T09:08:20+00:00

To know who rules you find the ones that you cannot critisize. When you can ridicule politicians and royalty day and night but not the judges then something is wrong. Very wrong.

2019-09-08T10:46:03+00:00

In what third world country do get to go to jail for criticizing a judge? Isn't being able to criticize someone's opinion a basic human right? Free speech and all?

RockmanXX · 2019-09-08T12:52:04+00:00

WTF, you can get jailed for calling out a judge!? What is this, 18th century?

DILLNUTT · 2019-09-08T16:47:05+00:00

This article is sloppy and full of errors (or likely lies) to push an agenda. I know there is an issue regarding fathers’ custodies, but this report of this incident is complete bullshit. I know this’ll get downvoted to hell, but redditors need to stop raising pitchforks every time they see a jarring headline.

idk_idc_about_a_user · 2019-09-08T20:33:19+00:00

Chris Cell2 comments4 votes0 followersFollowFull ProfileChris Cell16h

This is sloppy reporting which is based on a Channel 7 WXYZ DETROIT story. That reporter was forced to retract and amend her story to indicate that Judge Rancilio NEVER heard this case after I sent her this message :

Kim -

Just saw your story on the gentleman locked up for “complaining” about the friend of the court and Judge Rancilio.

I was wondering if you sought out Judge Rancilio for comment before your story went to air? Or the prosecutor? Or the Judge assigned to the case? Or the other judge who heard the bond appeal? I’m guessing not.

Did you see Mr. Vanderhagen’s Facebook posts (before they were taken down) consisting of 45 minute video rants about Judge Rancilio and that she will get her judgment day while he held a shovel with her name on it? I am guessing not.

Did you see Mr. Vanderhagen’s posts (before they were taken down) where he once again said Judge Rancilio would receive her judgment and that he “knew what he had to do” and then posted pictures of Judge Rancilio’s kids and family? I’m guessing not.

Did you know he was granted a low bond and told to stop it and continued to do such posts and then and only then was his bond raised, then appealed, and affirmed? I’m guessing not.

Did you even know that this misguided gentleman NEVER EVEN APPEARED in front of Judge Rancilio yet he somehow blames her for his son’s death? That would have easily been discovered by spending 10 minutes on the county website. I’m guessing you did not know and that you didn’t take these ten minutes. Did you know that this case was heard by a referee, which is normal, and then he had 21 days to object to the referee’s decision, but BEFORE he could, his child sadly passed? As such, Judge Rancilio NEVER even had the chance to hear this case, never heard it or even saw the father. She literally had NOTHING to do with it. You FAILED to report THIS.

I’m wondering how you would feel if someone irrationally blamed you for their child’s death, and then said your judgment day is coming while he holds a shovel with your name on it and then posts pictures of your children and family.

I’m not a journalist but it seems that maybe these facts would have been pertinent to this story so it doesn’t just come out as one sided sensational trash.

Ehhh. Wouldnt get to ralled up over this. Seems like the guy didnt exactly show up, nor the judge had much to do with it, in addition to him actually making what could be viewed as death threats.

Im not saying the system isnt predisposed to give females custody, but this guy never even showed up, and the judge didnt even get a chance to see the case.

Its entirely possible that he his shovel reference was to dig up the dirt and the court cases were arranged specific dates to avoid him while he had to work, late notices, etc. But if thats the case, holding a shovel up on facebook and saying your gonna get whats coming, and i know what to do, is pretty much the epitome of dumb.

B4pti5t · 2019-09-08T03:25:17+00:00

Source please?

ironranger88 · 2019-09-08T04:54:41+00:00

How did the kid die? Did he have a condition or did the mother kill him on purpose?

DEVOmay97 · 2019-09-08T05:36:36+00:00

How does the first amendment not prevent this? This could easily go to the Supreme Court.

functionalsociopathy · 2019-09-08T05:47:36+00:00

Wuhts a 1st amendment?

JoanneKerlot · 2019-09-08T07:01:37+00:00

Jesus fucking Christ.

charge_forward · 2019-09-08T07:24:43+00:00

This is so fucking ridiculous I laughed reading it

2019-09-08T08:34:18+00:00

And this is why society needs to collapse

SyntheticSins · 2019-09-08T09:37:44+00:00

Is there a fund to donate to for this guy to fight this legal battle?

Ruvs_F · 2019-09-08T10:29:52+00:00

Ok this is Making me So Fucking mad right now

Hannibaldex · 2019-09-08T10:35:25+00:00

I see a lot of online activism on this issue, but they never really turn into actual protests. Are people afraid to do it without anonymity? Or do they fear being labeled as proud boys or something?

Cavascii · 2019-09-08T10:54:52+00:00

What The Fuck

liveyourbestlife83 · 2019-09-08T11:14:30+00:00

It's absurd how biast the court system is towards me versus women

The_crow_from_heaven · 2019-09-08T11:24:46+00:00

Did anyone post this on r/news or r/awfuleverything and r/trashy?

pelasgian · 2019-09-08T11:25:21+00:00

I'd like to pay this man directly, not change.org. Is there a gofundme?

Grimbanian · 2019-09-08T12:12:17+00:00

Hey god! Yeah can you just hit the reset button please? Thanks

riot_ball · 2019-09-08T12:40:57+00:00

there goes the freedom of speech

Elijah_T98 · 2019-09-08T12:51:35+00:00

We should ship that cunt to an Islamic country.

pol_dawg188 · 2019-09-08T13:27:05+00:00

The article: https://pluralist.com/jonathan-vanderhagen-jailed-criticizing-judge/

JetpackJ · 2019-09-08T14:00:35+00:00

http://chng.it/99jk9YXnFg

420Phase_It_Up · 2019-09-08T14:10:50+00:00

When your kid was killed as the result of some power tripping judge and then to add insult to injury you are thrown in jail for criticizing the judge's ruling, that's when you know you have nothing else to loose. Hopefully this guy can sue the shit out of the judge and county but I wouldn't hold my breath. Its stories like these that give more credence to the saying "vote from the rooftops."

copswithguns · 2019-09-08T15:17:14+00:00

Easy 1st amendment win for this guy. What a joke this court is for allowing charges to be brought.

deepcut6 · 2019-09-08T15:49:32+00:00

I get real tired of these stories. It hurts so much. I can't imagine losing a son. I'm not even a parent and the thought already terrifies me.

2019-09-09T19:04:54+00:00

Women can literally kill a child and not go to jail, but they're the oppressed ones? Jesus fucking Christ, someone kill me now. I don't want to live in this shit fuck clown world anymore......

Starfireunknown · 2019-09-10T13:36:41+00:00

signed, thank for linking that

i'm utterly disgusted by this judge, she needs to be put in jail herself for abuse of power

topserver36 · 2019-09-25T23:00:42+00:00

I’m a little late and I know a lot of people here won’t agree with me on this since this is from my experience a more authoritarian reddit but this is proof we live in an oppressive police state

robcars · 2019-10-01T02:24:26+00:00

You cannot win against women they will take you to the cleaners.

2020-02-28T20:21:58+00:00

Wow how dare he criticize a judge for giving the mother custody when she wasn’t a fit parent, he’s fucking oppressing women! G U I L T Y !

ThePigmanAgain · 2019-09-08T01:58:54+00:00

You literally can't write a proper post title. You don't seem to be able to post a link, either.

Title	You literally can't win.
Author	EchoesXV
Upvotes	5419
Comments	250
Date	September 7, 2019 8:58 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/d11kbk/you_literally_cant_win/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/you-literally-cant-win.869628 https://theredarchive.com/post/869628

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