5 Women, 1 Job

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Small, interest-focused subs are the bees knees. The best sub I've found is r/kratom. It's super small in terms of active users, but is almost always on topic, no trolls, and a majority of redditors there live with chronic pain so it's a very tight knit but incredibly welcoming community. There are also a lot of recovering drug addicts, so it's a very supportive community as well. It never ceases to amaze me the kindness that users over there show eachother. The subscriber count blew up when the DEA threatened to ban kratom, tons of people subbed, but since the potential ban blew over, it's returned back to normal, just users that actually take kratom or have loved ones that do.

On a sidenote, for anyone dealing with chronic pain or drug addiction, head over to r/kratom and have a look around!

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"These days"?

This reminds me of all those old 4chan was never good posts.

If you think that big subs turning into shitholes is a thing that's just now starting to happen you're sorely mistaken. Back when I first joined reddit 5 years ago /r/Atheism was a sub full of memes, funny jokes and ironical humor, just occasionally showing something fucked up the church did.

Then it became a huge sub. Nowadays it's filled with edgy teens. It's become a sub about hating religion instead of atheism. I think they removed it from the auto-sub list when you join reddit, though I can't tell since I always browse /r/all .

Almost every single sub that becomes big eventually either becomes heavily moderated or turns to shit. If it's heavily moderated people start calling it a shithole because 'omg mods are nazi's' even when they post stuff that's clearly not belonging on there, or the sub becomes a shithole because it turns into something worse.

For example. I know that people hate on /r/the_donald with /r/BannedFromThe_Donald

But if you post anti-donald shit to /r/the_donald then you're a fucking idiot and you deserve getting banned. Just like you should get banned from /r/CatsStandingUp if you post a picture of a dog, banned from /r/WtSSTaDaMiT if you post a picture of someone not in a dress, etc. etc.

tl;dr: Big subs either get over-moderated or turn to shit. This isn't 'these days' it's always been like this.

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What? You don't think women have a pass?

I'll interpret this as asking "Do you think it happens that a woman is treated more leniently because of her sex?" and answer yes, absolutely - but your implication is that this happens for all women, as though they held a "pass," and that it does not happen for men.

I don't know of any convincing evidence to show that these are true. Of course, it can seem that way if you frequent subreddits which seek out these stories and throw them up for your righteous amusement. What you don't see, because you don't look for it, are all the stories of men getting away with similar things. You won't find statistics which show that all women "get a pass" because they don't exist.

Laws are applied unequally to many men and women, but that doesn't allow you to make the assumption that all women benefit from this, any more than the idea of "white privilege" allows you to make the assumption that all white people are privileged.

I'd also like to point out that this

Any reasonable person will admit

is categorically untrue. Stop framing your argument in such a way that you define "reasonable" based on whether or not someone agrees with you.

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I'm sorry but if you don't immediately understand in communication that when someone says "women have a pass" they don't mean literally every single one and literally not a single man gets away with anything, then you're completely socially incompetent and I'm not going to drastically change how I communicate to an inefficient way for the occasional autism. People with the most basic social intelligence already understand there are no social absolutes and there are always outliers and exceptions. So when someone says "women get treated way kinder than men" it obviously goes without saying that there are women who don't get treated kinder than men but overall they do by far as a group. Obviously there are exceptions. Duh. No shit. It's like saying "Women want to be mothers!" And then you jump in and sat "That's not true! How dare you assume ALL women want to be mothers! I'm a woman and I never want kids!!!" Just shut the fuck up becky, we get it, we know... go eat your crayons.

It's just sort of redundant and a waste of time to say "most women, but not all, and some men too, but mostly not, with a few exceptions, get a pass in society!"

A normal person doesn't need to point out the obvious fact that there are exceptions whenever they talk about social issues or anything that's not a hard science. It goes without saying.

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Men are disposable in society

Statements like these are what make me think you're forming these opinions emotionally, based mostly on reddit posts.

You're hitting on truths, for example that family law tends to benefit women in some ways, and that women are treated more leniently in some sectors of criminal law - but you're both exaggerating the effect (most likely because you don't actually have data, you're just remembering dozens of reddit posts), and you're completely disregarding the other sectors of law and society where men are advantaged over women.

I'm willing to bet you wouldn't consider men to have a "dick pass" despite the fact that men are considered over women for many jobs and opportunities.

But I can't change your mind about that. All I can do is come back to my original point: that communities like PPD are often toxic, and attract toxic people, because they focus on victimizing themselves and attacking a specific group. You don't have to be one of those people - when you start calling people who disagree with you autistic, or generalizing women based on the actions of a few, all you're doing is immediately cementing yourself as an asshole in the minds of your audience. They aren't going to listen to what you have to say.

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You asked for it. Enjoy. Things that us women get away with that men don't.

From an early age the opposite sex will be instructed never to hit me but I may not be given the same instructions. However, should I strike males I can expect not to be hit back and any social penalties that occur from my actions will actually fall on the male.

If I’m not smart, but pretty, I can marry and achieve the social and financial level of my husband without ever working.

I can produce offspring. A status which grants me an “essential” status in our species that men can never have and which can never be taken away from me even in old age.

Regardless of my mate value society has organised fertility clinics and social welfare programs that will allow me to have children and provide for them should I choose to reproduce without a mate or marriage.

I not only have the more valuable and sought after sexual identity, but I also have complete control over my reproductive choice and in many ways over the reproductive choice of the opposite sex.

At any time I can abandon my parental responsibilities with little or no social stigma and hand the child over to the state or abort the pregnancy. A male could never relieve himself of this burden unless I allow him to.

I am granted all the rights of a democracy without any of the burdens of military service.

At age 18 I lose the protective status of the child but retain the protective status of the female. Boys at age 18 lose the protected status of the child and become targets if they fail to gain status after that point.

When I marry a man with status I can take his name and become whoever he has spent years becoming. I need not do anything special to be worthy of receiving the reputation he has built. However, if I wish to keep my own name I can do so. Should my husband feel the sting of this insult I can simply call him a sexist for it.

People will help me more when I’m in need and I will receive no social penalty or stigma for it.

When I’m on a date things will be paid for me.

When I search for employment I can choose jobs which I think are fulfilling without concern of whether they provide a “family” wage.

I can discriminate against the opposite sex ruthlessly without social penalty.

If I marry and quit my job and enjoy a leisurely life with light housework and then later divorce I will be given half of the marital assets.

If I commit a crime and am convicted I will get a sentencing “discount” because of my gender. If I am very pretty it will increase my discount.

If I am a partner in crime with a man I will likely be charged with lesser crimes even though I committed the same crimes even if I was the ringleader.

I have the option to be outraged if my husband asks me if my behaviour is due to PMS and later on use PMS as a successful legal defence for murdering that same husband.

At age 18 I will not be forced to register for Selective Service and will not be penalised for failing to do so.

At a time of war I will never be drafted and ripped from my employment, home, and family and forced to become a military slave.

My feelings are more important than men’s lives. Every precaution will be made to protect me from harassment at work. However, males will make up nearly 100% of workplace fatalities.

My gender controls 80% of domestic spending. We get to spend our money if we have any and we get to spend men’s money.

The majority of luxury apparel is designed, marketed to, and consumed by women.

Seven times as much jewellery will be purchased by or for me than by or for men.

I have a department of women’s health whereas men have no such department.

My gender enjoys more government spending on health than males do.

My gender consumes the lioness’ share of entitlement programs while men contribute the lion’s share of taxes.

If I rape or molest a child I can expect lighter treatment in court and afterwards receive less social stigma. What’s more, should I become pregnant, I can sue my victim for child support when he finally turns 18.

When I divorce my husband I will be guaranteed custody of my children unless I am deemed to be unfit. Even if my husband is “Parent of the Year” 10 years running it is unlikely he will get custody over me even if I am a mediocre parent.

When I divorce I can use false accusations of domestic violence, sexual molestation of the children or abuse of the children to gain advantage during court proceedings. If I am found out to be a liar I can expect to get away with it.

If a man calls me a slut it will probably hurt his reputation more than it hurts mine, but at any rate the damage will be small and localised. However, if I call him a child molester or claim that he raped me I can destroy him completely and the damage may be nationwide.

If I fail at my career I can blame the male dominated society.

I may have the luxury of staying home and being a housewife but if my sister’s husband does the same thing I’m likely to call him a deadbeat loser and tell her to leave him.

If I “choose” to join the military; the best military occupations providing the most lucrative civilian training will be reserved for me. I will be kept away from the fighting as much as possible to the point that I will be thirty times less likely to be killed in a war zone than my male counterparts. I will be given equal pay for less risk. I will never have to consider the fact that by joining the military and getting a plumb assignment I automatically forced a male out of that position and into a combat role that may cost him his life.

If a male soldier injures himself before a deployment he can be arrested and court marshalled for it. If I deliberately get pregnant before a deployment or even during a deployment I will be reassigned and or taken out of a war zone and I will receive no penalty for it.

My gender watches more television in every hour of every day than any other group. This along with the fact that women control 80% of domestic spending means that most television shows and advertisement are designed to appeal to me.

I can wear masculine clothing if it pleases me however men cannot wear feminine clothing without social penalty.

Not only is there a wealth of clothing choices designed for me but it is likely that I will be able to afford or have them provided for me.

I can claim that a wage gap exists and that it is the fault of sexism while simultaneously seeking employment without considering income as a priority. I will probably choose my job based on satisfaction, flexibility of hours, and working conditions and then expect to make as much as the males working nights, out in the rain and cold or working overtime.

I can be bigoted or sexist against males without social penalty.

If I make a false claim of rape against a male in an act of revenge or in order to cover up my own scandalous behavior I may well succeed at both and he may spend years in prison. If I am found out it is unlikely I will be charged, convicted, or serve any time at all.

If I abuse my husband and physically assault him and the police arrive it is almost guaranteed he will go to jail.

If I am in an abusive relationship there are a multitude of social organisations to help me get away from him. There are few for men in the same position even though women initiate the majority of DV and even though men are hospitalized 30% of the time.

In the event of a natural disaster or other emergency that requires evacuation I can expect to be evacuated before males. This includes male doctors, humanitarians, politicians, captains of industry, billionaires, and religious leaders. I will receive no social penalty if all of those people died because I was evacuated first. However, should they manage to get evacuated before women and those women died they will all suffer a social penalty.

If someone is attacking a person on the street I have no obligation to assist them and I will receive no social penalty if I do nothing.

If someone is harming my children and I run away and ask someone else to help I will receive no social penalty for my cowardice.

I’m immune to cognitive dissonance.

I may denounce the concept of a dowry, however, I still expect a man to give me an engagement ring when he asks me to marry him.

I expect a man to ask me to marry me and suffer the potential risk of rejection.

If I lie it’s because I’m a victim of a male dominated society forced into difficult circumstances and not because I’m a bad person.

If my boyfriend sabotages a condom he can pay me child support for the next 20 years. If I secretly don’t take my birth control my boyfriend can pay me child support for the next 20 years.

If I’m uncomfortable exercising around men I can demand a female only gym be made for women. If any male only gyms exist I can demand membership under threat of lawsuit.

If my female only gym at the university decides to close early for safety reasons I can scream sexism and force them to keep it open as long as the main gym.

If I succeed at keeping the female gym open and I leave late at night and I don’t feel safe I can demand that the university spend hundreds of thousands of dollars for more lighting and police presence.

If after getting new lighting and police protection I decide I don’t want to go to the gym anymore well that’s just my prerogative.

I’m likely to believe that if a woman is intoxicated she is not capable of giving consent and if sex occurs it is rape. However, if her male partner is also intoxicated he is capable of consenting.

If a man is promoted over me at work I have a right to suspect sexism even though I also believe that under adverse circumstances men are more capable than women of making good decisions. (see #55)

I can cry and get my husband to do something for me that he might not have done otherwise.

I expect people (especially men) to be sensitive to my feelings.

I can deny a man’s feelings or disregard them or ridicule him for having them w

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I don't think it's all black and white. A sexist joke can be based off of truth, while still be disparaging just because you are generalizing (not that it's a bad thing; I prefer that type of humor myself). So as an example I'd say any kind of joke based on gender differences in sport. Obviously they are there, but it's not true in all circumstances. Or just think of any stereotype joke. I'm not sure I'd ever judge someone based on a joke though for your question. I try not to be holier-than-thou in my judgment of other people, as if I'm so special I can determine the motivation behind another person's behavior.

Like I said from a few comments up, it's human tendency to try and explain things to a persons disposition but to make excuses for our own behavior. Example: The reason you lost is because you suck, but the reason I lost is because my leg hurts. You can see this train of thought all the time. I hope that kind of answers your question.

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Title	5 Women, 1 Job
Author	Bizzyguy
Upvotes	9077
Comments	461
Date	July 14, 2017 3:37 AM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PussyPassDenied
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/pussypassdenied/comments/6n6o9p/5_women_1_job/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/PussyPassDenied/5-women-1-job.918175 https://theredarchive.com/post/918175