Campus rapist given lenient sentence to avoid "severe impact on him". I think it's important that we every once and a while recognize the scum and bullshit coming from the other side.

civilsaint · 2016-06-04T22:37:21+00:00

It's a disgrace that the judge chose this case to show leniency in this case, and not some case where guilt was questionable.

explicitlarynx · 2016-06-04T22:46:52+00:00

I find this horrible. There are innocent men being punished for nothing and this guilty piece of shit ~~walks free~~ gets a far too lenient punishment. Damn!

Karma9999 · 2016-06-05T07:56:56+00:00

To avoid severe impact, don't rape unconscious women! or any for that matter. Smacks of affluenza.

duganaok · 2016-06-05T08:07:25+00:00

This is outrageous. An actually rapist gets a pass but all the young men where no evidence was presence gets their lives ruined?

ImNotIntoPokemon · 2016-06-05T13:37:30+00:00

Putting aside Men's Rights and Feminism for a moment, I feel as though the real problem in this case is that he comes from money. Stick a lower-income guy with an ill-fitting rental suit, no college education, no impressive athletic background, and a public defender and watch the judge give him the maximum sentence, or more likely watch him accept a plea deal and get a moderate sentence and no trial because his overworked public defender wants to reduce their caseload.

Wealth giving you a pass to do things impossible for middle or lower income people, including legal things like "Go to college" and "Hire a good lawyer" is a problem that ignores gender. Money should not buy you things like this.

enjoycarrots · 2016-06-05T02:24:07+00:00

I marveled at this headline yesterday because it's one of the only times I've ever seen a headline like this where the convicted was male.

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2016-06-05T14:25:47+00:00

It's a grave injustice when male rapists are treated like female rapists.

thrway_1000 · 2016-06-04T22:13:29+00:00

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squirtingispeeing · 2016-06-05T00:29:13+00:00

I really think this letter demonstrated why there actually aren't rampant false rape accusations and why so few women bring charges against their assailant - the amount of scrutiny you're under after going through something horrific already would be unbearable unless you're an exceptionally strong person.

The trial, in her words, "forced me to relive the hurt as details about my personal life and sexual assault were brutally dissected before the public. He pushed me and my family through a year of inexplicable, unnecessary suffering, and should face the consequences of challenging his crime, of putting my pain into question, of making us wait so long for justice."

And in the end, he only got six months in jail.

Why would a survivor ever want to press charges? Go through that hell to have the judge take pity on your rapist?

RobDog101 · 2016-06-05T14:54:25+00:00

Fuck this guy. The penal system really is wrongheaded, breeds nothing but trauma and more crime—but of all the people to decide to spare, this fucking creep?

atheist4thecause · 2016-06-05T08:15:21+00:00

So the mods allow this kind of stuff but we can't talk about Emma Watson and the Panama Papers. Hmmm...quite interesting indeed.

ABC_Florida · 2016-06-04T23:24:26+00:00

Dear /u/Normal-ish!

My opinion is that you are welcome by me to discuss and argue on this topic anything you like. This topic has been covered her at least once. Judge it yourself what the opinion of the majority of users is. I think the majority of users agrees with me that the sentence is a joke for having sex with an unconscious woman. Read rape. Maybe he comes from money, or the family has good connections, IDK. Anyway that is not a sentence which is on par with the crime. And the reasoning that "prison would have sever impact on him" is both enraging and bullshit.

For those jumping at my throat, he was found by Vikings humping an unconscious woman! So get informed, and come back later!

If you are interested, and have the time, you can see that this thread is full of posts where female teachers got away with statutory rape with similar reasons. Most users disagree with them too. Like they do with this one, if they are informed about the subject. I think it is a case where a man faces a lenient sentence, we usually hear given to women. And I personally disagree with both.

Hope you were posting this to get honest opinion of a group. Anyways, have a nice day!

Runningflame570 · 2016-06-05T03:16:33+00:00

I can understand the outrage, but I don't know that the sentence is necessarily wrong either.

The judge deemed him not to be an ongoing threat to the community and he remains on the sex offenders list for life regardless. The judge was evidently convinced that he was also severely intoxicated and wouldn't be liable to re-offend.

As long as he's on the registry his life is still over in a lot of ways.

omegaphallic · 2016-06-04T23:11:54+00:00

I don't understand the appeal of getting this drunk, two ruined lives.

Twatbag · 2016-06-05T13:07:04+00:00

A hot 24 year old teacher fucks a 16 year old boy and the response is "she didn't have sex with him, SHE RAPED HIM."

We have a clear case of rape here and the responses come across as defensive. This prick raped a girl while she was passed out. The issue, and only issue, is that he was given leniency because it would have a "severe impact on him."

civilsaint · 2016-06-04T22:00:18+00:00

It was a drunken encounter between two young college students, there was no evidence against him. The conviction was bullshit to start with.

factsangeryou · 2016-06-05T10:28:50+00:00

When "the other side" starts doing this instead of pretending what you posted is the rule rather than the rare exception, then posts like this will have merit. This has no place in this sub.

civilsaint · 2016-06-04T22:27:41+00:00

This guy was not convicted of rape. Your title is a lie. He was convicted of sexual assault.

newharddrive · 2016-06-05T07:11:27+00:00

This is the class/patriarchy thing that feminists are talking about. Exactly.

omegaphallic · 2016-06-04T23:13:26+00:00

My Dad actually punched a cop while drunk once. He got away with it, because the cops partner thought he deserved it.

Drunks are morons.

Symos404 · 2016-06-05T10:33:54+00:00

It's important when you have all the facts to punish the guilty. Here was a clear cut case and the judge gave feminists exactly what they wanted, something to point to as rape culture.

omegaphallic · 2016-06-04T22:27:20+00:00

The claw hammer thing is over compentsating.

Raping her behind a dumpster is pretty fucked up, but I will double check to see if I had the facts straight.

TheDude41 · 2016-06-05T04:47:23+00:00

This sentence is ridiculous.

assault with intent to commit rape of an intoxicated/unconscious person
sexually penetrating an intoxicated person with a foreign object
sexually penetrating an unconscious person with a foreign object

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3623891/Star-Stanford-swimmer-serve-just-six-months-prison-raping-unconscious-woman.html

I assume the penetration part he was convicted of was with his fingers (not penis). If the jury found him guilty of those crimes, there is no reason for the judge to attenuate his sentencing.

Rethgil · 2016-06-05T23:12:08+00:00

What you mean like the woman who got off with practically nothing for sexually abusing a one year old baby? If you prefer to focus on rare instances where men can be accused and blamed in a rare forum that is meant to focus on men's issues, then go right ahead.

Rethgil · 2016-06-05T23:13:46+00:00

Are you trying to "crush a pussy bro?' White Knights have the most obvious uniforms.

KamiNekoSama · 2016-06-05T22:57:24+00:00

I agree, but i would also love to see the other side do it as well.

jimmywiddle · 2016-06-05T08:27:50+00:00

I am looking through the article for reasons why it might have been so lenient

What I can see that jumps out are

She was unconscious and therefore perhaps didn't suffer as much as someone who was conscious and fighting against it ?? Perhaps the jury took that in to account ? I guess they would of heard from the girl in court ?
There didn't seem to be anyone else there, you don't normally come across passed out girls behind dumpsters (at least not in my neighbourhood) so perhaps she was his girlfriend ? Or someone that he knew ? Perhaps they requested leniency ??
It said he penetrated her with a foreign object which seemed a bit odd. Without further details its hard to say what was going on.
He was probably incredibly drunk as well and perhaps wasn't even aware that she had passed out. Given they were the only two together, perhaps they had left the club together and where both conscious when they got there ?

Seems like a lot of details are missing from the article. Seems lenient from what we have been told, but after the media has put its spin on everything who knows what is accurate.

CapitalJusticeWarior · 2016-06-05T13:44:05+00:00

sexually penetrating an intoxicated and unconscious person with a foreign object

What did he do? Put something in her mouth?

Campus rapist given lenient sentence to avoid "severe impact on him". I think it's important that we every once and a while recognize the scum and bullshit coming from the other side.

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Dear /u/Normal-ish!

Do you think she was all the way conscious till he continued to penetrate her?

* His victim was unconscious.

* (It was said that) He offered up no explanation for his actions towards the victim at the scene.