No. No it isn't.

Lethn · 2015-09-16T08:36:31+00:00

lol I'm not the only one who glanced over that I see, this is the same kind of desperate article I've seen posted around. It's really funny that there are women out there who think they can still get men by being arrogant, patronising or try to shame them when that just doesn't work on this generation.

For those who don't get what I mean when I say 'shaming' check out the numerous "Why young men are checking out of society" crap where the writers immediately shift blame to men themselves and claim all sorts of crap like needing to 'man up'.

Really makes me wonder what kind of benefit women who do this expect to get from men.

actingverystrangely · 2015-09-16T10:26:00+00:00

The only games single mums play come in a box with instructions and a dice (or in Sam’s case, with some kind of sports equipment)

Err, no. The game for some single mums is "find me a walking ATM to support me after the father of my kids escaped" This article is a triumph of "wish for what you want and it might just happen" .

But it doesn't. And it won't. So many desperate women. Tick tick tick...

WhirlingPervish · 2015-09-16T08:42:46+00:00

I've dated a single mom long term once. I'll never, ever do it again. There are so many issues. Take this article and invert every point that the author attempted to advance and there you'll have the truth, not the propaganda.

ThePigmanAgain · 2015-09-16T11:05:29+00:00

"Sandra Bullock is the epitome of cool mum."

Bullock is a piece of shit who claimed having her son circumcised was the greatest moment of her life. Genital mutilation of one's own child is not something to be celebrated, you brainless Hollywood cow. Also, it was a Jewish ceremony though Sandra Cow is not Jewish and the baby is a black American. Go figure.

zyk0s · 2015-09-16T13:17:36+00:00

This list is hilarious:

NO GAMES
THEY’RE HAPPIER, STRONGER VERSIONS OF THEIR FORMER SELVES
THEY KNOW WHAT THEY WANT
THEY DON’T NEED RESCUING
THEY’RE LOOKING FOR A PARTNER, NOT A FATHER FOR THEIR CHILD
LONELY DOESN’T EQUAL DESPERATE
EASILY IMPRESSED

Basically the exact opposite of the truth, except perhaps the last point, which is there only to trick the very desperate and promise them a lay without too much effort.

Funcuz · 2015-09-16T12:01:06+00:00

Yes, that's what I need : I need to get involved with a woman who can eventually find a way to make me financially responsible for a child that everybody on Earth knows isn't mine.

Just fuck off.

chocoboat · 2015-09-16T14:51:32+00:00

It's really weird to me that this article is written by a woman. How many single mothers has she dated? How does she know what it's like to date a single mom, how is she qualified to give people advice like that?

If they wanted an article like this, couldn't they have found a man with experience doing it to talk about dating a single mom?

I do think that some people in here are being a little harsh on the article itself. There definitely are some advantages to dating a single parent - because they recognize that having a kid makes them less "dateable", they tend to cut out some of the bullshit and game-playing. And because they take care of a child, they're more mature and responsible people on average.

There's nothing wrong with writing an article like this and discussing the positive side to dating single moms, but it would look a lot less like a propaganda piece if the author wasn't a woman.

And I personally have no interest in raising some other man's child... that's a big hurdle for a lot of guys to get over. I'd want to be with a woman who's at the same point in life as me, where if we had a baby together it would be a new experience for both of us.

I also think it would be a lot easier on single moms if the court system treated fathers equally. If there were an equal number of single dads out there, there wouldn't be such an issue of single moms who have trouble finding someone to date.

brokedown · 2015-09-16T10:28:56+00:00

I support single moms.

icecow · 2015-09-16T21:08:11+00:00

I love the "NO GAMES" line.

It's like a guy in a hood walking towards you with a knife repeating, "I'M NOT GOING TO ROB YOU, I'M NOT GOING TO ROB YOU, I'M NOT GOING TO ROB YOU"

How can there be a "NO GAMES" guarantee merely because a person is a single mother. That's ridiculous on it's head.

..

Another example

THEY’RE LOOKING FOR A PARTNER, NOT A FATHER FOR THEIR CHILD

Either way, a single mother is ultimately looking for a partner for herself, that will accept, involve and nurture her child. She is not, however, looking for a pseudo-father for her child.

WTF

It's about me and you, not expected to be a father
You're responsibility is to involve, nurture, etc (father) my child
She is not, however, looking for a pseudo-father for her child (At any given moment: stay the fuck away from my kid, stop acting like you are the father, freak)

icecow · 2015-09-16T21:13:14+00:00

EASILY IMPRESSED There are limited opportunities for single parents to relax and unwind. Pampering your date, surprising her with a touch of romance or just showing her you’ve taken some time to consider what she’d like, will go far to impress her. Be aware that although spontaneous situations are invigorating, they rely on flexibility that single mothers don’t always have when there are babysitters to organise. Respecting her time will clock up considerable brownie points.

Notice how it outlines exclusively what the man can do for her as though it's a favor. Brownie points? really?

colourful_opinion · 2015-09-16T13:33:05+00:00

What a ridiculous article. Virtually every point is often reversed in real life, so this is little more than propaganda. My real life ex has gone 16 years without a date, is a seething mass of insecurities and ideologies, can barely hold a job, fell into religion hard, and is a ludicrous helicopter parent that micro-manages her kid. The next person that gets involved with her romantically is walking into a ticking time bomb.

And that's just the most salient single Mom I know. I've got about half a dozen in my group of friends with varying degrees of issues. There's the "writer" who makes an absolute pittance and relies on an unbroken stream of men to pay the bills. There's the wannabe EMT that took her education years ago but can't pull the trigger on working and so has been on welfare for 3 years running. There's the other wannabe EMT that just married a guy who has been unfaithful to her a dozen times and shows no sign of stopping, but he makes mad cash in the oil patch and she's clearly "settling" for the financial security.

This article is just trying to reframe dating, so that women that are lousy catches can somehow pitch that they are the bees knees.

eaton80 · 2015-09-16T15:36:47+00:00

"Hey Betas. AF/BB is the honorable choice. Man up!"

Mythandros · 2015-09-16T15:49:25+00:00

Bahahahaha. That's hilarious. Especially THIS line. "She is not, however, looking for a pseudo-father for her child."

I've met a lot of single mothers and that is EXACTLY what they are looking for. That and an ATM on legs.

This article is so ludicrous it's funny.

jimmywiddle · 2015-09-16T18:15:50+00:00

You can't polish a turd but they tried with this article....

soulless_ging · 2015-09-16T15:25:29+00:00

How is this in any way about men's rights?

It's a fluff piece about a contestant on the Bachelor. It's not an attempt to brainwash men into fathering children who aren't theirs.

Can we talk about real issues?

HoundDogs · 2015-09-16T17:16:24+00:00

I'm in the only marriage I will ever have. If I get divorced, that's it. It's hookups and hookers for me forever. While not preferable to a strong and loving relationship, technology and extracurriculars are at a place now where I believe I can sustain any excessive loneliness.

Dating a single mother wouldn't even be in the cards. I know that TheRedPill gets a bad rap but it's really opened my eyes to certain behaviors I now see in the divorcing wives and single women around me and helped me understand the foundation of those behaviors. I have a good (and wealthy) friend who is about to get into a very serious relationship with a woman 20 years younger than him with three young children. Words cannot describe how horrible this decision is for him, but he won't be convinced and it's not my place.

Just look at the attitude in this article itself. Look how much they have to bend the very fabric of the english language to make single mothers appealing to men.

her daughter is her absolute priority but being a solo parent doesn’t exclude her from falling in love and having a meaningful relationship.

Gold digger speak for: I need a third party payer to help me financially support my lifestyle and my children. Not to mention that, according to every guide to successful relationships it's also the complete WRONG approach to successful marriages and parenting. Parents relationship comes first. Then kids. Otherwise, what you have is a shell of a relationship that revolves around the children and leaves the man sitting third string. This kind of relationship MIGHT last until those kids leave the nest and your once single mother wife decides that you weren't really the one she wanted after all.

They don’t have time to play the “will he call me” or “shall I wait three days so he doesn’t think I’m overly keen” games.

Perhaps they would have more time to analyze potential relationships if they didn't ruthlessly go after full time custody for the sake of higher child support. Just a thought, but I realize this scenario doesn't happen in every case.

There may be a considerable disparity between your frame of reference and theirs, but be assured that more often than not, single mothers emerge from hardship as stronger, happier versions of themselves.

I read that as: "After going through the hardship of ripping her children away from their father their survival mechanism is the highest it will ever be to sustain life and keep children safe." I realize that these are not, exactly, conscious thoughts on the part of a single mother but people have to realize that human biology is at play just as wild animal biology is. Survival and reproductive instincts will always subconsciously lead the way. It's why she's out there looking for men and not participating in a sewing circle with old spinsters....one of those activities is decidedly more valuable than the other.

Single mothers know what they want, and are clear on what they don’t (often been there, procreated with him). As a result, they can make some swift decisions about whether the union will work. There’s no dragging their feet or beating around the mulberry bush with single mothers.

Fuck me running. What they want is to survive. That's why they're in a hurry to sign that LEGAL contract.....because it means security. All the justifying words in the world don't change the ACTION she's pushing for (A quick marriage). Also, at the rate that single mothers are divorced (i.e. 100%), perhaps "Swift decisions" shouldn't be such a positive talking point.

THEY DON’T NEED RESCUING

Riiiight. Hence this legal contract that entitles them to half of your shit you need to sign as soon as possible.

They carry the load alone and even if they have an impressive support network, the ultimate responsibility for parenting their child comes down to them.

...until they find a mark.

LONELY DOESN’T EQUAL DESPERATE

No...desperate equals desperate.

Pampering your date, surprising her with a touch of romance or just showing her you’ve taken some time to consider what she’d like, will go far to impress her.

Go the extra mile TO IMPRESS HER, they say! AYFKM? Am I underestimating the desperation of men or something?

As an interesting side note, the article sports and number of photographs of single mothers...who also happen to be multimillionaires, celebrities, and bombshell beautiful. Nice touch.

Honestly, I have to give some credit to this author. I never thought I could see single motherhood churched up quite so skillfully. I'm sure they'll even convince some poor bastard. Hopefully no one here.

Lethn · 2015-09-16T17:33:02+00:00

For the record I should say I have nothing against single moms in general, but I think that the way these feminist writers are trying to goad young men into dating women who come with a lot more emotional baggage and way more responsibility than your average single woman is extremely irresponsible.

It wouldn't be so bad if they were more balanced about it and gave some fair warnings about how you should know whether the mom is looking for something serious or not but they don't do that in any of these articles.

As ever with feminist doctrine, women are the flawless human beings and can do no wrong.

Edg3Crusher · 2015-09-16T17:40:18+00:00

I'm not even interested in having my own children. Why would I want to raise someone else's?

PerniciousOne · 2015-09-16T18:00:43+00:00

Reading this garbage is hilarious. Trying to help single mothers attract higher tiered men. Bwhahahahahaha

Unless they are the biological father, remember all men are ranked below her children on her priority scale. So his needs comes in usually 5th on the priority of her life.

She might make it appear that he is the first priority during the "attraction" phase where she can use family and friends to take care of the child so it seems that the child is not a huge interference, but once she has him locked down he gets dropped a few pegs on the needs board.

THEY DON’T NEED RESCUING

This whole paragraph is utter and complete horse crap. They want someone to take care of them, and in that take care of their children. This is why they are attracted to men who they ignored in their late teens, and twenties. The men who have saved, and built things for themselves so they can take it all away when they get "bored", or "lonely" because he is working so much to support her.

chafedinksmut · 2015-09-16T12:54:54+00:00

Pure delusion. A pretty funny read if you ignore that's she's totally serious. And that picture of her taken with a potato... XD

usernamenotinvaild · 2015-09-16T17:59:44+00:00

I do not want to be the only male in my entire line back to the first life form of this earth not to reproduce because someone got there first. I sure its a strange thought.

ExpendableOne · 2015-09-16T13:48:40+00:00

I have met a lot of seriously fucked up single moms, who should never have been mothers in the first place. The dating market is full of terrible single mothers who really don't know how to put their kids first, and who are single mothers because they chose horrible men or because they are horrible people.

Unless they have kids of your own or can't have kids of their own, most men don't really want to raise another man's child. It's a huge burden and a lot of responsibility for something they are not physically/biologically linked to and, at the same time, they probably feel unable to deal with a lot of things because they will never really be the primary parent.

It's also very likely that those single mothers are often basically going around looking for male providers to fix their personal mistakes and income problems, having no real desire or appreciation for those men. Who wants to be in a relationship with someone that doesn't really desire them, and who literally only values them for how much money they bring to her table?

A lot of men might have also had some pretty horrible experiences being raised by single moms, and all of their horrible decisions/boyfriends as well, and the last thing they want to do is relive those memories or be complicit in creating those kind of memories in another child.

McFeely_Smackup · 2015-09-16T19:33:02+00:00

yeah, keep telling yourself that.

I don't even have to look to know this editorial was written by a woman, and most likely a single mother.

The only actual examples of men I've known who got involved with single mothers are not positive ones. If nothing else you have to consider that this is a woman raising at least one child out of wedlock, think she won't do another?

Scimitar66 · 2015-09-16T19:33:12+00:00

Please use archive.today in the future.

murphymc · 2015-09-16T19:40:20+00:00

Why would you sign up for something when you know going in you'll always be second banana? If she's going to be my everything, why shouldn't I expect the same?

whatpaper · 2015-09-22T01:05:04+00:00

It's an article about Bachelor. People who watch that are women. The article is trying to boost the self-image of single mothers, not trying to convince anyone to actually date them.

thrway_1000 · 2015-09-16T10:49:46+00:00

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TR6Cool · 2015-09-16T13:52:50+00:00

Do a search on You tube of why not to date single mums.

1) They want a father for their children not a partner!

2) No matter what you will always be second to their children

3) Why did the guy leave in the first marriage or why did she get rid of him.

4) She wants your money not your love.

5)Once you meet the kids she will put pressure on you not to break up with her for the sake of her kids feelings.

6) The kids will probably hate you really.

I could go on but you want your head looking at if you start dating a single mum!

pirate6728 · 2015-09-16T14:52:56+00:00

Wrong on every point. 'Nuff sed.

Marrying a single mom is a losing proposition from the word "go". You will never be allowed to be a proper Dad-- in fact you'll be reminded countless times by both the mother and the children that you're not the children's real Dad--, you'll always---ALWAYS-- be an outsider in the family, and when the inevitable divorce comes you lose everything including the children.

Arakin · 2015-09-16T16:30:13+00:00

ROFL. They will print anything these days.

15253734563 · 2015-09-16T16:34:17+00:00

archive.is

Clockw0rk · 2015-09-16T20:00:59+00:00

Any time I encounter a single mom, my first thought is "This is a woman that makes enormous mistakes when it comes to important life choices".

There are rare exceptions, like when you're dealing with widows. But the whole.. "Yeah, I was married and it didn't work out" thing; really just shows they're a poor judge of character and bad at planning. Bad planning goes quadruple for the women that purposely or 'accidentally' get pregnant out of wedlock and then keep it. Children need a parent, either a full time parent, or two part-time parents. Working full time and 'raising a child' quarter-time doesn't fucking work.

I should know. I was raised by a single mother. And I am broken as fuck, inside and out.

newharddrive · 2015-09-16T14:15:13+00:00

One of the worst choices you can make in my opinion. Biologically speaking, it is a lose for you and an win for him. I know that there are a lot of guys who have married single mothers and it can work, but it is not for me.

sillymod · 2015-09-16T18:02:55+00:00

People have reported this. It is a men's rights issue because there is a stark difference with how single moms and single dads are portrayed. Men are portrayed as deadbeats, but here we have an instance of single moms are portrayed in a "women are wonderful" effect way.

victorymonk · 2015-09-16T13:59:40+00:00

You should have capitalized it. Also, classic: http://judgybitch.com/2012/11/11/dating-single-mothers-just-say-no-a-note-for-all-the-single-dudes/

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