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Why shouldn't women be picky?

August 25, 2022
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We have a lot more at stake during sexual encounters than men do. There is a lot I could go into that would take a while to explain. But here are the most important risks:

  1. The risk of rape. Men are on average, stronger than women. Casual hookups can easily become a dangerous situation for us.

  2. The risk of pregnancy. Sometimes contraceptives can fail and then you either need to get an abortion, which can be very painful and expensive. Or have a child that you didn't want, and the "father" will almost certainly not stick around to help raise.

  3. The risk of kidnapping/murder. This kind of ties into the first point but its also worth a mention. A lot of women have went out on casual Tinder dates and ended up dead in a ditch somewhere.

Put yourselves in our shoes. If you ran all of these risks literally every time you wanted to hook up, you'd be extremely picky to!

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Title Why shouldn't women be picky?
Author lizzy1289
Upvotes 15
Comments 102
Date August 25, 2022 2:48 PM UTC (3 months ago)
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[–]BurnaAccount1227 18 points19 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

All I've gathered from this is if you're ugly, short, not a hunk and otherwise unattractive, you're apparently a murderer/rapist, or assumed to be.

This has got to be the most toxic shit I've ever heard. You can have standards, go right ahead. But using that as an excuse to gaslight the vast majority of men because they aren't seen as attractive, and implying that attractive men cant be violent criminals.. This is fucking wild.

[–]Marzipan-Happy 12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I've got to agree with you on this. It's all just an excuse to make themselves feel better for "being picky" just own it that you only want the top teir looking dudes.

[–]Peacesquad 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Facts. Hypergamy baby

[–]MasonSub4BlackPill 6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

My thoughts automatically went to, If I wanted to run a kidnapping ring I would just employ chads to lure woman and BINGO easy money

[–]NelsonManswella 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

two words: ted. bundy.

[–]Peacesquad 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Facts

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, that is basically her implication.

That if you're an ugly guy who women percieve as "creepy", they assume you're a potential threat to them.

Literally any of the concerns she mentioned can happen with any guy regardless of his looks. So by what parameters is she judging men to determine how safe she feels around them?

I think we know the answer...

[–]Peacesquad 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

HYPERGAMY

[–]Bdog5k 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hey, this is woman brain.

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

its a troll post

[–]AnActualPerson -1 points0 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Where did she mention attractiveness? It's not toxic to be wary of the population who is most likely to harm you. Stop being a baby.

[–]BurnaAccount1227 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

... When she mentioned being picky. The obvious implication here is she is referring to one reason why women pick desirable aka attractive men for dates, and that being unattractive automatically makes you more dangerous to others. I didn't say anything about not being careful in general. It's the implication that unattractive men are automatically seen as more likely to be harmful or dangerous to be around.

[–]AnActualPerson -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

She didn't imply that, you're just insecure.

[–]BurnaAccount1227 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I get the feeling that was an attempt at an insult.

[–]Peacesquad 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

THIS!!! WOMEN DO THIS ALL THE TIME

[–]BoogersAndSugar 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah the way so many women make prejudiced assumptions of ugly/short guys really gets to me. I'm not asking women to date or fuck ugly guys. As a matter of fact, I'm vehemently AGAINST settling and getting with guys for only pragmatic reasons. All I'm asking is that they stop being so damn prejudiced. Being ugly doesn't make you a rapist and being short doesn't make you a murderer! It's like saying being black automatically makes you a criminal.

[–]HodgekinWhitePill 11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You're argument is not true because you ignore that part where women are just as shallow as men, and choose who they hook up with based on physical appearance, "the tingles", dark triad traits, status/clout, wealth and so forth.

You're argument does not explain why a women is willing to sleep with a man on the 1st date. How is she able to determine your three points, 1)rape,2)risk of pregancy,3)kidnap/murder, with a 30 minute interaction? How is she "picky" if she ignores all three points you just mentioned? That's the opposite of picky.

Edit: And just to answer your original question "why shouldn't women be picky?" Yes, they should be. But we know they ain't when they meet the right guy.

[–]Peacesquad 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Facts

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 27 points28 points  (69 children) | Copy Link

The same women who say this will also go sleep with randos off tinder.

[–]Ganajin 3 points4 points  (41 children) | Copy Link

I do not sleep with randos, nor use Tinder, and I am picky and cautious. Isn't it possible that women have reason to be?

[–]Cobra_x30 6 points7 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

You are totally missing the point!

Guys aren't bitching about 30 year old virgin women. They are bitching because the same woman that is too picky to date them is attending gangbang parties put on by the local college football team. How fucking hard is that to get??

[–]Ganajin 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Oh it's you. Hey man, do you still talk to Roosh?

[–]Cobra_x30 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Don't you know? After his sister died he converted to Christianity. He got married and has... I think 2 kids so far. He's working in cancer research. The last I heard from him was in 2021.

[–]Available-Ad-9338 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

They are bitching because the same woman that is too picky to date them is attending gangbang parties put on by the local college football team.

Why do you care that she's rejecting you? You wouldn't want to date her anyway. Make up your damn mind.

[–]Cobra_x30 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Why do you care that she's rejecting you? You wouldn't want to date her anyway. Make up your damn mind.

This is like wondering why black people hated segregation. This business rejects you, just focus on the ones that will serve you. I'm sure if it was just 1 or 2, this kind of attitude would work, but when the issue is culturally pervasive... you can't just ignore it and move on.

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

How do they know any women that rejects them gets fucked by 555568555 men?

Females are also having less sex compared to years ago according to stats, teen pregnancy was a bigger thing in 90's than it is now.

[–]Cobra_x30 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Females are also having less sex compared to years ago according to stats, teen pregnancy was a bigger thing in 90's than it is now.

I was around in the 90s... I remember how that stuff worked. Women have less sex, but with MORE partners. Don't mix up your stats.

Back in the day... women would get a boyfriend and they would shag all the time. Now, women get boyfriends and then stop having sex, for whatever reason... maybe too many guys have porn addictions. Regardless... the number of one night stands is way higher than ever before.

I can personally attest to this because from 2000 to 2010, I found it almost impossible to get a one night stand, but even as I'm getting older and less attractive... I'm getting one night stands easily now.

[–]HodgekinWhitePill 13 points14 points  (23 children) | Copy Link

There's two categories of women.

1) Those that hook up casually. This is what the red pill critiques.

2) Those that don't hook up casually. Which is a good place to be and more women should be like you.

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. And from a red pill perspective.

[–]RealNiceLady 3 points4 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

Then, don't have casual sex.

[–]HodgekinWhitePill 4 points5 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

I don't understand your comment. Are you directing that at me?

[–]mandoa_sky 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

that means the "plates" thing makes zero sense.

red pill talks a lot about spinning plates - but a "plate" is a casual sex partner

population statistics-wise - that makes zero sense.

[–]HodgekinWhitePill 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I'll give you an analogy.

1) You have people who own cars.

2) you have people who take ubers.

Your mind is stuck on a 1 person per 1 car model. 10 people can use 1 car in 1 month. That's what it means by spinning plates.

[–]lizzy1289 1 point2 points  (25 children) | Copy Link

That's what I'm saying. Over on PPD and now this subreddit, I see many men complaining about how picky women are on Tinder.

I'm explaining why that is.

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 13 points14 points  (22 children) | Copy Link

Except all the reasons you’ve listed ARE NOT the reasons women are picky on Tinder.

It’s documented, for example, that 75% of women on dating apps set their height filter at 6’0 or over. How does that relate to the threat of rape, kidnapping or pregnancy?

You are attempting to set up a straw man, and have been called on it. Sorry.

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill 11 points12 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Yeah she is just being very dishonest.

She knows most women's dating preferences are all about looks. But she doesn't want to just admit that so she makes it seem like its all about "safety". When in reality all of the scenarios she brings up are rare. They are just unfortunate anomalies. Most men regardless of thier looks are not rapists and serial killers. And any of the situations she mentioned can happen with even the most handsome of men. So I'm not sure what point she is trying to make.

Why do so many women ignore really blatant red flags to date attractive men?

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 13 points14 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Female solipsism and aversion to accountability.

[–]BoogersAndSugar 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Smart and self-aware women don't want plain looking guys knowing how the game REALLY works, hence all the strawmanning, gaslighting and trying to shut down certain discussions with shaming language. Plain looking guys who know the truth about looks are wary of settlers, gold diggers and other types, which makes those guys a lot harder to run game on or swindle into an unhappy one-sided marriage. There's also another reason why some women want to stop these discussions - fear. Let's be real, here, there are a LOT of guys who don't handle the truth well, and a world full of looks-aware guys WOULD be even more dangerous for them. And THIS is why you see more women these days coming out and admitting what they're ACTUALLY attracted to - they know the truth is already out and this gaslighting/strawmanning/shaming stuff will only make things worse. For those girls, honesty is seen as the safest option because ugly/short guys can no longer ALSO be mad at them for being dishonest.

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It’s documented, for example, that 75% of women on dating apps set their height filter at 6’0 or over.

Fortunately for us short kings, the most popular dating app, Tinder, doesn't have height filters. lol. Tinder has a pay-to-win business model though so I am not simping for Tinder or Match Group by any means. You have no chance of success on that app if you don't have Tinder Platinum. Or at least Tinder Gold. Unless maybe you are ridiculously good looking, your card does not get shown to women very often unless you pay for boosts and super likes. With Tinder Gold/Platinum, you get 5 super likes a week and 1 boost a month. And with Platinum you can attach a 140 character message with your super like. I also purchase additional super likes from time to time if I ran out of super likes and feel that I have a good chance at getting with a particular girl I like. And if I want to ensure that she sees my card in her deck.

Personally I prefer POF because its free to message women. But I have struck out on POF quite a bit recently and POF does in fact have height filters. The only one success I've had in the past couple months has been with Bumble. I also got the attention of the girl I met off Bumble with a super swipe. If I didn't pay, she probably wouldn't have seen my card in her deck. Like I said, pay-to-win.

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You’re kind of making my point for me, which is that the reasons OP cites for being picky are absolutely not the reasons they are picky.

She’s being dishonest - to the world and possibly herself.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s documented, for example, that 75% of women on dating apps set their height filter at 6’0 or over. How does that relate to the threat of rape, kidnapping or pregnancy?

aaaaaaaaaaaand u/lizzy1289 got shut down.

[–]mandoa_sky 0 points1 point  (12 children) | Copy Link

well Tinder is a hook-up app and not an app for looking for genuine connection (at least that's how it is where i live)

if what you wanted was casual sex - why not get the hottest person you can get? since it's not really about finding someone you connect with.

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy Link

[sigh]

  1. Read OP’s post again.

  2. Read my response.

She’s saying women are picky in order to avoid rape. My response was “that doesn’t explain why height is so important”.

In other words, she’s deluding herself and her initial comment is incorrect.

[–]Cobra_x30 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I see many men complaining about how picky women are on Tinder.

Then you completely missed the mark, because we have hard data that shows women are picky on Tinder for entirely different reasons than you suggest.

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Right and women can be picky as they want. They are not obligated to date and sleep with every guy. Just as men are not obligated to give commitment to any woman he fucks.

[–]Peacesquad 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

FACTS

[–]revente 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The problem with your post is that women absolutely aren't picky for safety. In fack they really seem to prefer dangerous men for casual sex.

[–]Peacesquad 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And relationships

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Women being picky for the right things is perfectly understandable. The problem is, none of the reasons you mention correlate to the extremely superficial preferences of most modern women.

[–]Peacesquad 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fact

[–]Fit-Faithlessness149 9 points10 points  (22 children) | Copy Link

I suppose handsome faces, chiseled bodies and being over 6ft makes these things less likely to happen? Let's face it if women were legitimately afraid of these things they would be exclusively dating skinny manlets.

[–]lizzy1289 3 points4 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

Just look at your local sex offender registry and tell me how many 6 foot tall handsome men are convicted of rape or child abuse. You won't find many.

It's just been from what I've seen that ugly men are the ones who commit the most sex crimes. So we are right to be wary of them.

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill 4 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

And there it is.

You just outed yourself and gave your real reason for rejecting men...

[–]Acrobatic_Dress_39881 points [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

Women can be picky for both safety and attractiveness. What do you not compute?

Surprise, surprise, women don't like fat ugly men. Sad you need a "redpill" to understand that. Just like men wouldn't want to walk down the street hand in hand with an ugly fat woman and say she's their girlfriend they plan to marry.

You'd think that this is common sense.

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She is making the implication that the reason behind her original post, is because she thinks ugly men are more likely to commit sex crimes against women.

That is the undertone of her comment. Don't pretend not to see it.

I fully understand that looks are the most deterministic factor in dating. I never said otherwise.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Lies. Lena Dunham got married.

[–]Peacesquad 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just look at your local sex offender registry and tell me how many 6 foot tall handsome men are convicted of rape or child abuse. You won't find many.

Show us these registries. I call bullshit. I say you've never actually looked at one.

[–]Fit-Faithlessness149 2 points3 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Perhaps they commit those crimes because they are ostracized from the dating pool? It reminds me of a quote I just saw

"The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel it's warmth."

[–]lizzy1289 2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

You left out the part where that "child" goes to prison for life or gets executed.

[–]Fit-Faithlessness149 1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Do you think that when someone is depressed and ostracized that they are thinking clearly or about their bleak future when they are willing to commit such crimes?

[–]Cobra_x30 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's just been from what I've seen that ugly men are the ones who commit the most sex crimes. So we are right to be wary of them.

The sex offender list is packed with tall handsome guys.. what the hell are you talking about?

[–]HodgekinWhitePill 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just to make it clear, if you're handsome AF, it's not rape. If you're ugly AF, it's rape, even if you got consent. :')

[–]Purple-Heiss 4 points5 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

As most have already said, the issue is that this pickyness doesn't seem to be based on safety reasons, but on looks.
There is nothing wrong with having certain standards in terms of looks; the problem (for a large number of men) is the standards women ask for seem to be more and more demanding, to the point only the best looking dudes seem to have access to romantic and sexual interactions.

[–]Acrobatic_Dress_39881 points [recovered] (6 children) | Copy Link

pickyness doesn't seem to be based on safety reasons, but on looks.

Uhhh, how about BOTH?

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Then explain why women marry Republicans. Or Donald Trump. Explain why four women prison guards got pregnant by a drug dealer inmate.

Hello? I can't hear youuuuuuuuuuu

[–]Acrobatic_Dress_39881 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

did you forget the part where you put ALL women (half the world's population) under a single trait? Not that good with logic, are you.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

LOL not all women, I didn't say all women but enough do that it's a problem. Stings when it's used back on you, doesn't it? #notallwomen lol

[–]Purple-Heiss 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Well, I agree that almost any woman would ask for a minimum of security in any kind of encounter she's going to have with an unknown man. Speaking about dating, I think looks are the main driver of that pickyness.

There is nothing wrong with having certain standards in terms of looks; the problem (for a large number of men) is the standards women ask for seem to be more and more demanding, to the point only the best looking dudes seem to have access to romantic and sexual interaction.

I am asking you in a genuine way:
By saying "BOTH" are you acknowledging that women are increasingly picky about looks and that leaves a large number of men out of the game? Or do you think only those who use dating apps have such high standards?

I'm assuming you're a woman, maybe I'm wrong and if so, excuse me.

[–]Acrobatic_Dress_39881 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

are you acknowledging that women are increasingly picky about looks

I don't use tinder so I can't talk on that. People on apps have nothing to "offer" except how they look. IMO it's a terrible way to meet people. And yes, I acknowledge women are picky. So personality vs. looks, here's how I think it works: A good personality can make up for mediocre looks, but not bad looks. Great looks can't compensate for bad personality.

Men AND women who look particularly ugly (Im not talking about fat), odds are, they are gonna end up alone, no matter how great of a person they are. Telling an ugly guy that there's someone out there for him, is a lie. You are also kidding yourself if you think the average woman has it any easier. She is treated and used as an object most of the time, and once she is over 30, she is discarded as being past her "expiration date".

[–]Purple-Heiss 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, I think that, in general, we have similar views.

Thanks and be well.

[–]Hyena_UtopiaBlackPill 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah sure these may seem like convenient reasons. Left brain oriented rationalizations, explaining why a woman in 2022 tends to be so picky. ”Why not? makes sense.” a bluepiller might say.

But this is not what causes womens choosiness, lets be real. What causes a woman to be picky is her desire to maximize what she can get out of her role as sexual selector, simple as. At the end of the day you can be as picky as you'd like. You or other women don't need to justify anything to anyone, least of all random redditors. But lets be real, its all hypergamy.

[–]Bdog5k 4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

This is one of the stupidest fucking posts I’ve seen in a while.

You said “ bodily harm” 2x in different ways to stretch it. Then it’s all about being picky during hookups??? You don’t have to worry about absent fathers by not hooking up. LMAOO

There is YOUR problem.

“ you don’t understand, I have to have sex with random strangers” or some shit - woman that complain about safety

You would be better off weighting righteousness equal to attraction for partners, as well as following it yourself. Maybe quality men as a whole for a relationship instead of fucking random people. Attractive people murder and rape too. This is one of the great hypocrisies. You fail to take accountability for your safety. You are DETERMINED to go fuck somebody even if it’s dangerous. It’s not less risky if they are attractive.

This conversation feels really silly. It all boils down to woman going to the wolves den because it’s attractive, then blaming all men.

The solution to hookups being dangerous isn’t being picky. It’s not going. Holy fuck…

.

[–]Peacesquad 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

FACTS MAN🔥🔥🔥😂😂😂

[–]Bdog5k 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

XD

[–]Peacesquad 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Lmao this had me jumping! So true!

[–]Bdog5k 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh I thought you might have been jokingly patronizing.

Yea… this shit is real man.

Listening to the excuses is so old.

[–]BumblingBeta 8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

  1. Any man can overpower you. In that case, you shouldn't be having casual sex at all.
  2. Why have casual sex at all in that case? You've already decided that contraceptives can fail and all men won't stick around in the event of a pregnancy.
  3. Any man who wanted to do this would come off as friendly and charming as possible to deceive you.

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This.

A lot of serial killers are very good looking and charismatic. Otherwise they would not get away with what they do for very long at all.

A big flaw in OP's argument is that whenever women get raped or murdered after meeting up on some dating app/site, it's almost never an incelish looking guy who did it. Why is that? Because women are not picking these types men in the first place.

They go after good looks and ignore all kinds of red flags.

[–]hudibrastic 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sure, the gigachad with a defined jawline and many options to fuck around with, famous for not committing to anyone, is exactly the one you should pick to avoid all those risks

[–]MarBitt 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If these things played a decisive role, then women choose small, weak, sensitive men with a strong feminine side for hookups who fall in love easily, have a good job and a stable income, so that if the woman were to become pregnant, they would be able and willing to stay with her and financially support the child.

But women choose tall, strong men (against whom they have no chance) and for casual sex it is mainly the male's sexual attractiveness that decides. And that does not reduce the risks mentioned by you, quite the opposite.

[–]IHateNormis 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Picky in regards to what? Where I live domestic violence is apparently at a record high and is costing billions of dollars, this could be spent on something better if females didn’t pick violent Chads.

[–]LiftSushiDallas 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Men aren't pissed that women are picky.

They are pissed when they aren't picked.

[–]NelsonManswella 2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

i love how the number one reason women are “cautious” about men is rape/assault yet women will prefer the dude who’s 6 inches taller and weighs 30 lbs. more than her over a dude her height.

I don’t know. if i had that fear, i wouldn’t almost solely have casual sex with the dude who could literally pin me down until i couldn’t move.

but that’s just me, i suppose.

[–]shreyastalpade 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Women have an excuse for everything, doesn't matter if it's logical or not.

[–]Peacesquad 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Emotions and feelings lmao

[–]shreyastalpade 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Lmao, hearing this emotions and feelings shit since forever, literally every PUA and seduction guru vomits it in every video.

[–]Peacesquad 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

It’s true man

[–]NotARussianBot1984 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why shouldn't men be picky? It's our money we have to spend for dates. That's worth more than anything you said.

[–]hdksndiisn 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

of course it makes sense for women to be picky - the burden of childbirth should be reason enough. But they aren’t really.

Or perhaps whats more accurate is it doesn’t matter how picky women are they always have people to pick from.

logs onto tinder 100 new matches! Hmmm no no no no maybe maybe maybe omg yes maybe no no no depends maybe probably not yes yes no yes

Male logs onto tinder: 1 new match!

Understand? Pickiness doesn’t matter when promiscuity is the base level to choose from rather than scarcity - abundance will always be your option, so you have the space to screen.

Even taking that into consideration women aren’t very picky when it comes to certain types of guys, or situations (“well I have had 3 glasses of wine”, “I’m on vacation”, “I’m single now I can do what I want,” etc) especially if it’s “just casual” and Chadlet has you swooning

[–]bludkrazeRED AF 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

-1. The risk of rape. Men are on average, stronger than women. Casual hookups can easily become a dangerous situation for us.

-2. The risk of pregnancy. Sometimes contraceptives can fail and then you either need to get an abortion, which can be very painful and expensive. Or have a child that you didn't want, and the "father" will almost certainly not stick around to help raise.

-3. The risk of kidnapping/murder. This kind of ties into the first point but its also worth a mention. A lot of women have went out on casual Tinder dates and ended up dead in a ditch somewhere.

Those risks combined are single digits. Like all of those together barely make 1 out of 20. But for the average 2022 hoe that racks up 20+ bodies before even turning 25 i get that its a real risk.

[–]catniagara 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

All true. But even if those three points weren’t accurate, since I’ve never personally been raped or murdered or impregnated by a tinder date (to be fair, I’m bigger than most women but look small in photos) here’s my reasoning:

I’m not picky, actually. I’m on this dating site looking for one person. That’s not being “picky” . It’s being interested in a relationship with someone who matches me perfectly. I believe there’s only one, and everyone else is a waste of my time.

What offends me is the idea that MY perfect guy would be the same as every other girl’s perfect guy. I can acknowledge that someone like Namjoon or Chris Evans is pretty much perfect…for someone…and that millions of girls would die to be with them.

But realistically I understand six words total of Korean, and know nothing about the culture. And I’m too clingy in relationships to actually date a male lead who would disappear on me for months or years at a time while filming. Same reason I don’t date doctors or military guys. I won’t date a murders and assassinations lawyer no matter hot he is because he sold out his morals for a job. I know all that. I know these “perfect guys” are just a fantasy.

It concerns me that some people don’t understand that. Some people think these people are or should be in their personal circle. They believe that using force or violence will make these people love them. And they feel entitled to their love.

Yes, most of the delusionals who act on it are male. That’s why women run so much risk just living our lives or going on a date. Because they will get completely invested in a fantasy and make the actual person completely irrelevant. And unfortunately for a lot of people it’s our job to be a fantasy person.

I worked in fashion for years and the person on display was definitely made up. Tons of guys fell in love with that image who didn’t even know me, or let’s face it, want to know me.

And that’s the real risk we all face honestly, even men. Who loves us and who is just using us? And RP tactics are a great example of being fake and just using us.

If wanting the right person for myself and wanting to protect myself from being used or hurt, or just one of a harem of girls for some loser guy is picky then I’m proud to be picky. I don’t need rape or murder as a reason because that’s reason enough.

And honestly better looking guys have always been nicer to me. I’ve tried dating less attractive men and they treated me the way I guess the women they typically date put up with. Or worse, because they see me as someone who dated hot guys my whole life and finally deigned to date them, or whatever. I’ve had guys like this try to lose me my job or ruin my life and justify it with I’m pretty so I deserve it. Not just guys. Girls too. So I learned to stick to my pack I guess. People who are nice to me.

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

-1. The risk of rape. Men are on average, stronger than women. Casual hookups can easily become a dangerous situation for us.

-3. The risk of kidnapping/murder. This kind of ties into the first point but its also worth a mention. A lot of women have went out on casual Tinder dates and ended up dead in a ditch somewhere.

If you're so afraid of men, why even bother to date men at all then? I'm not trying to put you on the defensive. I'm just trying to understand your motivations.

-2. The risk of pregnancy. Sometimes contraceptives can fail and then you either need to get an abortion, which can be very painful and expensive. Or have a child that you didn't want, and the "father" will almost certainly not stick around to help raise.

We are very fortunate here in Canada. We don't have this problem. Abortion is readily available, completely unrestricted and heavily subsidized here. I understand most people on this sub are probably conservative since it seems that just about every black piller and red piller is a Republican/conservative. I would consider myself a liberal. But I'm not down with all the wokescolding that comes from my side. I didn't vote for Justin Trudeau/Jagmeet Singh. I wouldn't vote for Joe Biden and the Democrats either if I was American.

From my understanding, even in Democrat-run states like New York, abortion is expensive. That is unfortunate. Considering that unwanted pregnancies tend to result in years of welfare payments, its actually more economical for the taxpayer to subsidize abortion than to pay out welfare to single mothers. Society is not going to cut off welfare payments to single mothers. That would be political suicide. Even Republican single moms would rethink their support for the GOP if the Republicans cut them off financially. So the harm reduction strategy is to subsidize abortion.

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Its because she is just trying to "strawman" women's dating preferences as something other than looks. She is being disingenuous, and I'm pretty sure she knows it.

If women were getting raped and murdered left and right on dating apps, they would be banned. Or at least no women would ever be using them.

And furthermore, even in the tiny amount of cases where that does happen, it's almost never ugly looking incel dudes who are the perpetrators. Because these men are never getting picked for dates in the first place.

The majority of the time it's rather good looking men with a long history of domestic abuse against women.

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It mostly is looks. I am autistic af. I have social anxiety disorder, generalized anxiety disorder and depression. I'm taking CBD to help low-inhibition and NTmaxx because my anxiety issues are severe. And a NEET. And I just had a Netflix & Chill date yesterday. This was after 4.5 months of leanmaxxing and prettyboymaxxing. Going from 29% body fat down to 15.8% (my reading yesterday was higher than usual. I've seen it go as low as 14.2% 4 days ago). I've always had a nice face. But the facial fat was taking away from it for years.

[–]Marzipan-Happy 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Holy shit dude, congratulations on your progress!!!

[–]hari_hbp 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Every reason you said is true for even the hottest guy you chose from a dating app, so stop.

You don't need a reason to be picky - you're a woman, you have options. You can choose anyone, you don't have to justify it. Any man who can't respect freedom of choice can take a hike.

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

troll alarm

[–]MasonSub4BlackPill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

These arguments are dumb, the only argument you have grounds to stand on is eugenics.

[–]smallstarseeker 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women should be picky.

They should avoid casual sex with big guys that can easily assault/rape them.

They should avoid having children with guys that will dump them.

...etc.

And some women do that.

[–]Hekinsieden 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd give up and stay home.

[–]CryostasisRoach 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

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