I am being completely serious now:
I am 24 and i have left university twice and at least fifty jobs for the last five years.
Why? Here's why i got fired today, you tell me who is right and who is wrong:
-women are packing products, putting them on a pallet, wrapping the pallet
-each woman has a packing station
-for months the supervisors have been telling them to stop procrastinating and stop grouping themselves on one packing station and chat
-They keep doing it
-my job position is an admin, desk job but in the warehouse area
-As a man, when i finish my job I get asked to start doing heavy lifting and wrapping the pallets that THE WOMEN THAT ARE DOING NOTHING BUT FUCK ALL AND SLACKING ARE SUPPOSED TO WRAP AND LIFT
-I have been doing it for a month and a half now
-today i got asked again and in a bitchy way and i just said in the most respectful way that this is simply not my job and i won't do it
-ten minutes later I am fired and sent home because "we cant tolerate this attitude"
They have been tolerating cunts literally not doing the job they are hired for, but fire me for not doing THEIR job.
And i got fired by men. What's wrong with this world? I literally can't keep a job because I simply don't fucking tolerate injustice.
The west deserves everything that is coming to it. But even then the cunts will be protected by the FUCKING cucks.
Please, brothers, tell me something to encourage me, advice me.
Edit 1: I live in United Cuckdom
Edit 2: Thank you for the support (I wont get it anywhere else) and the incredibly good career guidance I just received by some of you.
Edit 3: Most of you are suggesting that I should work for myself. That's what I have always tried to do but I need to raise a capital and I just can't suck it up for 3 years, jobcucking myself to death for these vapid cunts. That's why yesterday one of you gave a sound advice to learn an IT skill and this is what I'll do.
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In the US this guy could sue for sexual harassment. Being terminated for not getting work done, which other people are also not getting done, where the only difference is gender? The onus is on the employer to prove it's wasn't a gender based decision. Median settlement for a harassment suit is $250k. IANAL but I'd certainly talk to one, even if the UK laws are different.
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I mean, the legal standards for what constitutes harassment don't generally discriminate. If I had to guess, men are WILDLY less likely to sue on these grounds. But we should. Hence I'm encouraging it.
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Just the statement of saying no, sorry i'm busy with X and then going back to work is what actually drives these people away. Learning to say no and say it politely is hard for allot people. Once you start lifting extra weight around it becomes a assumption that you will do it anyway and it becomes ungratefull. Just go browse the internet for 25 to 50% of your time like everyone else and do some time wasting on the internet and switch desktops when someone comes close. Any feminized workplace does not reward efficiency, it punishes it.
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IMO; The fastest IT career to get into is in Linux Administration. I don't know how your job scene is over there in the UK, but from my experience in the US it's pretty happening.
You can get started in under 3 months with under a grand and get a job making 50-60k starting.
Here's how:
https://www.amazon.com/RHCSA-Linux-Certification-Study-Seventh/dp/0071841962/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1523303112&sr=8-1&keywords=jang+linux
Do all of the exercises, labs, etc...
Go through each portion of each test on https://www.certdepot.net/
Make a drill setup for each major area. Perform each drill at least 5x a day till you have the commands in your muscle memory. Now, turn over your drill list and attempt the task from scratch. Repeat until you can confidently execute each task from memory. Read 5 man pages per day, minimum.
Go get your RHCSA. Cost to take the test is ~400 USD, dunno what the exchange info is like. After you pass your RHCSA, then take RHCSE.
Go get a job at a webhosting company or a data center.
Keep learning. Learn to write scripts in Bash. After Bash pick up Python. Decide if you want to pivot into the security field, or if you wanna go deeper into Sysadmin. If you want to do security look into Cybrary for general learning security stuff.
Once you have a grip grab your nuts and get your OSCP cert. This is big boy level shit. This is spending 16+ hours on a live lab pen test certification. This is one of the most respected certs in the industry. You get that bad boy and you are going to be getting 100k+ hiring offers off twitter and linkedin regularly.
https://www.offensive-security.com/
If you wanna stay an admin go down the architect route with Redhat.
Knock knock Neo.
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For sure man. I was jammed up for a bit working tons of different shit jobs for a year or two after the military. Then I did exactly the above.
If you have both the RHCSA and RHCE, you are going to be overqualified as FUCK for a basic entry level Linux job as well. Feel free to uh "spruce up" your work history and get rid of those 50 jobs. By "spruce up" I mean you are going to create and host your own fake business website. Be smart here, and don't fuck it up. (Make sure to pay for private DNS as well.) Just copy some smaller local business or some IT consulting BS. Say you worked there for a year or two or whatever. If your resume is complete shit, go find a company you want a job at. Look at their job description. Place an ad on craigslist using that... Might cost 25 bucks or so. Now you are getting resumes. Maybe even some good ones. Stitch them together intelligently to describe your role at the previous company. Now, get a burner phone. Write a script for your compatriot to follow gushing about how great of an employee you were at your fake company. Give your friend the phone and the script. You'll be amazed at how many people never actually check your references as an aside lol.
Once you get a job take your buddy out for steak and celebrate.
If you follow this advice, and make a real effort you can have a completely new life in 6 months. I wish you the best. Don't give up. Times are tough now, but if you put in the effort they won't be anymore. No more working outside, or on your feet all day, and there are very few women in the field.
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Make sure you put together a good LinkedIn profile too. It's very widely used in IT, and once you have an RHCSA/CE recruiters may start hitting you up on it.
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As someone who knows nothing on this subject (yet), is the RHCSA book you linked out of date at all? Because I saw someone mentioning how it's "still relevant in 2014," and I'd hate to get through this endeavor and realize it's only partially relevant to its respective test.
Thank you for all the info.
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Thank you for the info. I just ordered the book and started a basic course on udemy (I'm familiar with simple Linux usage but know little else besides installing distros).
Is the Linux+ cert a better goal first, or should it be skipped? Should I just start with RHCSA?
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If you work an admin job then your not required to lift. You can say you have a bad back and it prevents you from lifting and that is why you chose an admin job. Being slightly more diplomatic may allow you to navigate the pitfalls.
I recommend that you get yourself another job. Eat shit for a while and start to save money. Once you have money and a marketable CV then you are in a stronger position. Until then, MGTOW or not, you perhaps need to be a little more humble.
That being said... I still respect you for your no BS attitude
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Just literally say no... and then don't do it... You will learn a valuable life lesson doing this
Or do it... pull your back, and then go sick for two weeks!! Have you even had health and safety training to lift? I wouldn't do this if I was on probation or a temporary contract but if not then fuck it... When you come back you will likely have an attendance meeting if it is a big company and they will ask how they can support your attendance at work and the answer is simple... You cant lift because you have a bad back
Id get some HR advice if I was you. Call the ACAS helpline (http://www.acas.org.uk/)
If all else fails.... get a year+ on the CV and then get new job
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I'm 26 and still don't have a career. Had a few jobs where I didn't like people and rage quit.
I thought I've been through A LOT of jobs.
But over 9 years I've only had about 10 jobs.
Never got fired. Unless you consider quitting by not showing up, getting "fired." But one company I worked for considered it "voluntary termination."
IF YOU GOT FIRED FROM 50 JOBS THERE IS SOMETHING FUCKING WRONG WITH YOU. FIGURE IT OUT NOW.
YOU WILL NEVER FIX IT UNLESS YOU FIGURE OUT YOUR PROBLEM.
****That's not to make you feel bad about yourself. It's a wake up call. Look in the fucking mirror man. I used to do things that made people hate me. I fixed them and never had that problem again. You're obviously just making mistakes. DO SOME SELF-REFLECTION. Tell us more about what you aren't telling us.
I'll give you my opinion from the limited information you gave me: YOU ARE CONFRONTATIONAL. You are a masculine guy who has aggressive energy and that's how you socialize. Someone is doing something you disagree with you say: FUCK YOU WHY SOULD I DO THAT.
You need to understand that people don't share the same disagreeable aggressive spirit as you. And when you act disagreeably they don't know how to handle it. They see it and feel it completely different than you do.
Especially when you are dealing with effeminate men and women you MAKE THEM EXTREMELY insecure and they feel threatened. When people in power feel threatened they get tyrannical. It's human nature. NEVER make your boss feel insecure. That is the quickest way to lose your head.
From the 48 laws of power: Law 1: never outshine the master. LAW 1!!!!! Look at what happened to Rex Tillerson -- Trump's Secretary of State. Very masculine, accomplished, respected man. Former CEO of Exon Mobile. He called Trump a moron. Months later he was fired. Never do it. Never.
If you have a stronger, more masculine boss, you can get away with more. Because it will take MORE to make him feel threatened or insecure.
But with 80 - 90% of people you will trigger their defensiveness.
I am a very disagreeable and bullish man sometimes. And I notice what it does. I piss people off just with my asshole vibes.
Then when I try REALLY HARD to be pleasant to people -- not a push over or nice guy, just pleasant and non-confrontational -- it is night and day. People are A LOT nicer to me and a lot easier to get along with.
Being bullish and disagreeable is not bad PER SE. But you need to learn how to control it. It is like a firearm. Very powerful. But if you wield it irresponsibly, you will get in A LOT of trouble. And you might wind up getting shot by the police or someone else. Crazy metaphor but think about it.
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I don't understand how this same situation has happened so many times. And I've worked with women in retail and food service at multiple establishments. I've worked in a place where all the managers were women twice.
How do you keep getting yourself into this situation?
And even if you are in a way picking up the slack of some woman, is it really holding you down? I pick up the slack of probably 2-3 women at my current job, but that's just the way I work. No one is forcing me to do it.
Why do you have to constantly weight who's doing what? Can't you just clock in, do work at a your pace, and clock out, without even looking at how much more work you're doing than other people?
And like other people said, and I have experienced myself, if you make yourself a workhorse, people will consider that your normal mode of functioning. So if all the sudden you decide to slow down people will notice. Don't overwork yourself because everyone will just expect you to keep working like that. Find a pace that you are comfortable with and stick with it.
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You need to enter situations with more awareness of what you're dealing with.
You enter situations holding everyone to your standards. You expect women to be dutiful and industrious. And you expect managers to not take advantage of you.
I don't.
I am aware 100% of everyone and how they can take advantage of me and then I deal with it with ACTIONS, not argument.
Law 9 of power: Win with actions, not argument.
Never argue with people who can undermine you. You are not in a position to do it.
Win by making action-orientated decisions.
Law 19: Know who you're dealing with, don't offend the wrong person.
Apparently you don't know who you're dealing with when you get yourself fired.
Having very cautious respect for ALL people will get you really far in life. It will avoid all kinds of unnecessary squabbles and energy draining feuds. It will also protect you from those who can screw you. Even a small, relatively powerless enemy can drain you. Look at what the Vietcong and terrorism did to the United States. This is why our leaders don't publicly bad-mouth Islam. It isn't because they're cucks (some of them are). It's because they don't want even more problems to deal with. Yet even when they publicly respect Islam, they still bomb their countries and invade them. See? Win with actions not arguments. Don't offend the wrong person.
I'm telling you things aren't working for you, you need to learn how to change to make them work.
It has nothing to do with right-and-wrong. We ALL know society is fucked up. That is not an obscure opinion.
Believe it or not, you are in the same boat with a lot of women and people you think are normies. Everyone is aware of some aspect of the dysfunctionality and immorality of society.
There are other outlets for you to deal with that though. Forums, groups, politics, etc.
In your private and professional life, you have to act practically and make things work as painlessly as possible.
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That's the way it should be. The issue is why are warehouses wasting money on employing useless women? Not only are they stealing job positions from men, but they are also making it worse for the men who work there.
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Yeah, you're screwed man.
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Should have told your male supervisor what you just told us... If the guy already fired you, at least don't go in silence.
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If this is the 50th job you lots maybe you should stop blaming these bitches because the problem clearly is you. You sound very self righteous and always blaming others for your mistakes might be part of the reason people constantly fire you.
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Also not able to take any criticism, there we have your second issue.
Keep going mate
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I recommend working slower at your job, so as to leave less time for helping others. I learned the hard way that the faster you work, the more they (the bosses) want to pile on additional work. I burned out on several jobs by pushing myself too hard. Honestly, if it's work at the lower end of the income spectrum, it's better to to get hassled occasionally by your boss than to do extra and not be rewarded for it. Do enough to not get fired. And others have mentioned this: when asked to help, don't be johnny-on-the-spot, eager to help. Rather, politely comply, just not eagerly. And if the task is not your primary job, don't worry too much about doing it quickly.
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I've been fired because of my "attitude" too despite being the best in my position. They had to hire two people to replace me. I went my own way and never looked back. No matter how much you sacrifice for your job, they'll turn on you. Not worth it.
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